Re: G3 imac, networking, 2.6.12 kernel

2006-02-16 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 10:30:14AM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
[...]
 And the answer is  bmac.  This problem has been around since at  
 least 2.6.7.
 
 FWIW, the installation still fails with linux-image-2.6-15-1-powerpc  
 as neither hotplug nor udev can probe this particular machine.
 I plan on filing a bug against  linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc, along  
 with the script below for consideration as part of the postinst  
 process.  Is that the ''correct'' package to post against?

Why not linux-image-powerpc, since the problem is not specific to 2.6.15?

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Re: G3 imac, networking, 2.6.12 kernel

2006-02-16 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Feb 16, 2006 at 09:44:26AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 10:30:14AM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
 [...]
  And the answer is  bmac.  This problem has been around since at  
  least 2.6.7.
  
  FWIW, the installation still fails with linux-image-2.6-15-1-powerpc  
  as neither hotplug nor udev can probe this particular machine.
  I plan on filing a bug against  linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc, along  
  with the script below for consideration as part of the postinst  
  process.  Is that the ''correct'' package to post against?
 
 Why not linux-image-powerpc, since the problem is not specific to 2.6.15?

The correct package to file bug against is linux-2.6, adding [powerpc] in the
subject.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: 2.6.16-rc2 powerpc timestamp skew

2006-02-16 Thread Roger Leigh
Paul Mackerras [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Benjamin Herrenschmidt writes:

 Ok, does not using NTP fixes it ?

 Try this patch.  With this the values from gettimeofday() or the VDSO
 should stay exactly in sync with xtime even if NTP is adjusting the
 clock.

 This patch still has quite a few debugging printks in it, so it's not
 final by any means.  I'll be interested to hear how it goes, and in
 particular whether or not you see any oops, time got ahead messages.

Without your patch, the clock works perfectly when NTP is not in use,
but when NTP is in use I get a large amount of skew (3 min) after
about half an hour.

With your patch (tested against 2.6.16-rc3), there is no skew whether
NTP is running or not, and the system has been up 90 mins so far.
They two times appear to be the same.


Regards,
Roger

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Re: G3 imac, networking, 2.6.12 kernel

2006-02-16 Thread Rich Johnson


On Feb 16, 2006, at 3:44 AM, Hans Ekbrand wrote:


On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 10:30:14AM -0500, Rich Johnson wrote:
[...]

And the answer is  bmac.  This problem has been around since at
least 2.6.7.

FWIW, the installation still fails with linux-image-2.6-15-1-powerpc
as neither hotplug nor udev can probe this particular machine.
I plan on filing a bug against  linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc, along
with the script below for consideration as part of the postinst
process.  Is that the ''correct'' package to post against?


Why not linux-image-powerpc, since the problem is not specific to  
2.6.15?




Fine by me.


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Some problems with a radeon 8500

2006-02-16 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Hi,

I have some problems with my Radeon 8500 on my Macintosh G4.

I'm now under dapper but I had the same problem with a debian sid.

If I kill the X server (by stopping gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm stop)) the
fonts on the console (with radeonfb) become completely unreadable, if I
restart X it's readable again.

A second problem, the 3D seems to skip a lot of frames (the dri is
enabled). For example if I run a 3D screensaver, the screensaver
blinks.

A last one, radeonfb seems to find 2 monitors

radeonfb: Monitor 1 type CRT found
radeonfb: EDID probed
radeonfb: Monitor 2 type CRT found
radeonfb: EDID probed

I have two heads on the card but only one monitor connected.


Somebody has the same problems?

Regards

Laurent


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Mac Question

2006-02-16 Thread msmith
I got your email by googling a question thought maybe you could help me 
out.  Please read below.  Any help is greatly appreciated. I got a 
mac's it's a lap top.  It's a 1.42 GHz Power PC G4; 512 level 2 cache.  
512MB of DDR SDRAM' supports up to 1.5GB with a 60 GB hard drive.  
Anyway my question is this... when I turn it on all that happens is in 
the center of the screen there's a little folder icon with the two 
faces on it and it
flashes between that and a question mark.  Nothing else happens.  I 
tried to restart with the options key press down and when I did that 
the screen showed two little folders one on the right and one on the 
left.  On the right was a button that had an arrow that looked like a 
loop options and the other had an arrow that looked like a forward 
button. Any suggestions?







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debian-PPC powerbook laptop support.

2006-02-16 Thread David Smoot
What (if anything) do I give up by blowing out Mac OS X entirely and going to Debian-PPC on my powerbook?Airport?Sleep / power management?Bluetooth?External Monitor support?I have a 1.67GHz powerbook 15 with 1 gig ram purchased in April of last year. I had the unit set up as dual boot debian to help me in my quest to get more familiar with linux, debian, and open source in general. But working for a living, I relied primarily on Mac OS X as my work environment, not because it was better but because I understood it and it was already configured to just work without me messing with it.
Long story short, I had to send my laptop back for repairs under warranty. In the mean time I was forced to use an X86 Debian desktop. And I really liked it. As I expected they wiped out my laptop hard drive and sent it back as a blank OS X machine with none of my personal data. Unfortunately my backup was hosed. I have a second backup that is about 5 months old.
So I am at a decision point. I've already lost about 5 months of data anyway.I can forget linux on my laptop and just set up mac os X (most expedient but it does not get me any closer to my long term goal of becoming more linux fluent)
I can set my system back up as dual boot (most work but most flexible)I can throw away OS X and go full linux. If this were a desktop I would not hesitate to take the plunge. But battery life / sleep / suspend and all those laptop issues matter to me. What (if any) compromises would I be forced into if I go full Linux?
Anybody been down this path and care to share their wisdom?Thanks in advance,David


Re: debian-PPC powerbook laptop support.

2006-02-16 Thread Johannes Berg
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 11:29 -0600, David Smoot wrote:
 What (if anything) do I give up by blowing out Mac OS X entirely and
 going to Debian-PPC on my powerbook?
 Airport?

nope.

 Sleep / power management?

nope.

 Bluetooth?

nope.

 External Monitor support?

a bit maybe, TV out doesn't work and I don't see linux doing two
different things on the different displays and setup is a bit strange
sometimes.

 I have a 1.67GHz powerbook 15 with 1 gig ram purchased in April of
 last year. 

Got the same machine, purchased a month earlier maybe :)

 If this were a desktop I would not hesitate to take the plunge.  But
 battery life / sleep / suspend and all those laptop issues matter to
 me.  What (if any) compromises would I be forced into if I go full
 Linux? 

Battery life is decent under linux, the bcm43xx driver needs power
management (meaning I have to reverse engineer it).

 Anybody been down this path and care to share their wisdom?

I've been using osx only in MOL and really infrequently and am happy
with debian on my powerbook. More technical information is on my
homepage http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/PowerBook

johannes


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Re: debian-PPC powerbook laptop support.

2006-02-16 Thread Johannes Berg
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 19:10 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
  Airport?
 
 nope.

I should've elaborated on that: it doesn't always work reliably (though
on the older powerbook you have it has a better chance).

Also: you do loose at least some 3D acceleration (I run without r300
driver completely)

johannes


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Test version of the glibc built with gcc-4.0

2006-02-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi PowerPC users!

I am currently trying to switch the compiler used to build the glibc to
gcc 4.0 on all the architectures. PowerPC is one of the architectures
still using gcc 3.4.

gcc 3.4 is used to workaround some gcc 4.0 bugs, but it seems that now
gcc 4.0 is working correctly on PowerPC. I am using a glibc built with 
it on my system for a week without any problem. However I may have miss
some problems, and I am unable to test the 64-bit version of the glibc
as my computer does not support it.

I am therefore asking for some people to test it. I have put my packages
on http://people.debian.org/~aurel32/glibc/powerpc/ . Please report me
any problem if you find some.

Thanks,
Aurelien

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ipt_geoip

2006-02-16 Thread Dean Hamstead

hey all

not strictly a powerpc questions, however, is there a deb package 
containing the 'ipt_geoip' kernel module? most likely i would imagine

it being part of a greater netfilter package or source deb

anyone?

Dean


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Re: debian-PPC powerbook laptop support.

2006-02-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt

 a bit maybe, TV out doesn't work and I don't see linux doing two
 different things on the different displays and setup is a bit strange
 sometimes.

Dual head actually works ... somewhat ;) The main problem currently is
that X doesn't do any proper dynamic reconfiguration so switching
between single/dual head setups tend to require config file changes and
server restart.

There are some patches for TV out floating around, so it might become a
reality sooner or later.



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Re: debian-PPC powerbook laptop support.

2006-02-16 Thread Benjamin Herrenschmidt
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 19:22 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 19:10 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
   Airport?
  
  nope.
 
 I should've elaborated on that: it doesn't always work reliably (though
 on the older powerbook you have it has a better chance).
 
 Also: you do loose at least some 3D acceleration (I run without r300
 driver completely)

Note that I'm currently running x.org CVS HEAD with DRI from Mesa CVS
HEAD on one of these machines and 3D acceleration seems to work fine :)

Ben.



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Re: debian-PPC powerbook laptop support.

2006-02-16 Thread Johannes Berg
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 10:40 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

 Note that I'm currently running x.org CVS HEAD with DRI from Mesa CVS
 HEAD on one of these machines and 3D acceleration seems to work fine :)

Great. I've just been to lazy to compile it all :) Maybe I will now that
I have the quad and can use distcc with it :))

johannes


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Re: Some problems with a radeon 8500

2006-02-16 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 15:32 +0100, Laurent Bigonville wrote:
 
 If I kill the X server (by stopping gdm (/etc/init.d/gdm stop)) the
 fonts on the console (with radeonfb) become completely unreadable, if I
 restart X it's readable again.

This only happens when you stop X from the console, right? It's a known
long standing issue; it hasn't bothered anybody enough to track it down
though...


 A second problem, the 3D seems to skip a lot of frames (the dri is
 enabled). For example if I run a 3D screensaver, the screensaver
 blinks.

That's usually an application bug, it probably doesn't use double
buffering. In particular, the KDE screensavers were known for this for a
long time, not sure they're fixed even now.


 A last one, radeonfb seems to find 2 monitors
 
 radeonfb: Monitor 1 type CRT found
 radeonfb: EDID probed
 radeonfb: Monitor 2 type CRT found
 radeonfb: EDID probed
 
 I have two heads on the card but only one monitor connected.

Is this really a problem? :) The worst that should happen is that the
second connector uses a little more power.


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