Re: powerbook5,6 questions
Hello, For Airport, you have to wait for Ubuntu Dapper Drake (considering Debian). You can't use it with Breezy. I've spent hours and hours to realize it. I don't know anything about video with Debian, as I never tried to use it. Why Debian on a PB ? Well, just for the fun of it: time to waste as for whatever you want to do, you have to dig deep into the engine. jjb 2006/5/11, Benoit Chesneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, I'v an alubook (powerbook5,6 1.67) with ati RV360M11 and I'm tempted to pass it under linux. I would like to know if now Airport extrem works well and if I can video/dvi out under linux and especially debianppc. Btw does someone use this laptop fulltime under linux ? For what reason? I'm very interrested by your feedback. Regards. Benoît
Re: powerbook5,6 questions
On Thursday 11 May 2006 02:01, Benoit Chesneau wrote: Hi all, I'v an alubook (powerbook5,6 1.67) with ati RV360M11 and I'm tempted to pass it under linux. I would like to know if now Airport extrem works well Works like a charm. You only got to compile a kernel yerself, witch is pretty easy once you got the hang of the difference with different archs (you used linux on other platforms maby?). and if I can video/dvi out under linux and especially debianppc. This I never use, but rumor has it that it does not work. Btw does someone use this laptop fulltime under linux ? For what reason? I'm very interrested by your feedback. Yes, the best development applications is for linux and is both opensource and free of charge, witch enables you to fit in with YOU, Application/user support is very mature in comparison to almost any other paid-for substitute... and yes, the buy only software is ONLY substitute. I come to feel like OSX is a bit slow??? dunno. and simple tasks for anyone used linux before, like the easy copy/paste on the mouse. easy module handling ( I dont know about the rest. but Tiger really really really dont like modules. Good menusystems. osx lacks good menues. Try rename a file without the Terminal. Take ages to work out the workflow. I got one thing to like OSX for, the handling of Airtunes, this little piece of hardware is pain with linux. I would like a simple measure to make Juk do the same, I guess that would run iTunes out o' business witch just comes to my mind also does not like 300gb with ogg/mp3 mix. Børge Regards. Benoît
Re: Problems with the airport
El mié, 10-05-2006 a las 23:38 +0200, Javier Ramirez escribió: Hi to everyone. I am having kernel 2.6.16.14 with the berlios kernel patch (not the dscape one). I can scan the wireless networks but dhcpd doesn't get an ip address. Ok, I've had this same problem since the first time I tried bcm43xx. I've managed to obtain the IP with dhcp doing one of these two things (I call my wireless interface bcm0): 1) ifup bcm0 Let it finish the first time with out obtaining an IP, and then issue a dhclient bcm0 which normally obtained an IP from my router. Some times I have to issue a 'iwlist bcm0 scan' and then the 'dhclient bcm0', but this happens very rare times. 2) This is what I use now, it works great and it was a surprise for me. I installed network-manager-gnome only to test/try it and...it gets the IP address instantly, I mean, when I start my gnome session the bcm0 interface, is up, associated and with an IP!! and I don't have to do anything :) One more thing...it seems for some people to cause problems a bitrate of 54M, so I use the 11M bitrate. I don't use WPA so I can't tell you if it will work with it, but for me it has solved a lot of my problems. Hope it works for you. A. Corbi. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerbook5,6 questions
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 02:01:38AM +0200, Benoit Chesneau wrote: Hi all, I'v an alubook (powerbook5,6 1.67) with ati RV360M11 and I'm tempted to pass it under linux. I would like to know if now Airport extrem works well and if I can video/dvi out under linux and especially debianppc. Btw does someone use this laptop fulltime under linux ? 99 % of the time my Powerbook5,8 is run by Debian Linux: The machine is a dual-boot one here: OSX + Linux. And the only reason I still have this OSX partition is the firmware updates for this machine that I can get via the OS X software updater, at least for the next 1 or 2 years, as I hope. But as soon as I find a usable way to install these firmware updates without OSX that OSX partition will be wiped for .. guess what? ... :) For what reason? Somewhere once, IIRC, I read something like: What are you doing more than 2 hours in front of Mac OS X? I couldn't put it better ... You're probably better-off tho' with this relatively new machine if you build your own kernels. But IMNSHO this comes close to a snap even for users, i.e. non-coders, if that's done via make-kpkg on a Debian system ... :) And provided they're willing to learn and spend some time on that .. If people only need some email or Internet or a Web cam to say hello to Grandma it's prolly better to just use OSX ... I don't think that those being curious on what's happening on a computer have another chance than installing something like Linux. Oh yes, and this: I think it's much more comfortable to use Linux than any other OS I know. Because with Linux I feel I have more options to tweak the system according to my needs. HTH Best Regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer: /ICQ: 286585973/ + + + /AIM: crashinglinux/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 http://keyserver.mine.nu/pks/lookup?search=0xE3037113fingerprint=on -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg ati external display and XVIDEO
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 01:12:50PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: Anyway, you can achieve the overlay setting as a radeon driver option in xorg.conf. This has been removed in favour of the Xv adaptor port attribute. Oops. What a shame the videoadapter section in xorg.conf is still undocumented. I'll go package the xvattr binary, then. Cool, thanks for all the information and work! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Issues regarding powerpc and Sven
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 11:14:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 04:38:31PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: As I suspect you're all already aware, on 27th April, Sven Luther asked me to review the situation with d-i and powerpc as a result of finding his commit access to the d-i repository had been removed. Having spent some time since then seeing what's been going on, I've concluded that removing Sven's commit access was a reasonable course of action, and won't be asking that you accept Sven's request to have it reinstated. Anthony, d-i team. I would very much like to get the detail of the reasoning behind how you concluded that it was a reasonable course of action, I am also interested to know the reasons. Anybody on debian-powerpc has a good direct pointer, if those reasons have been given at all? pgpcOrpeFTEHT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: powerbook5,6 questions
On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 02:01:38AM +0200, Benoit Chesneau wrote: I'v an alubook (powerbook5,6 1.67) with ati RV360M11 and I'm tempted to pass it under linux. My company has the previous model PowerBook5,6 1,5 ati RV350 9600 M10, I am the main user. I would like to know if now Airport extrem works well Since early this year I could make it work, I expect this to get better with the next linux releases. and if I can video/dvi out under linux and especially debianppc. See Benjamin's answers for this. I am using SVGA external display output for presentations, the only problem is that the difference of resolutions. Some beamers might have problems with it, but it is possible to work around them. Usually I use a virtual screen of 1280x1024 points for presentations. Btw does someone use this laptop fulltime under linux ? For what reason? I'm very interrested by your feedback. My machine is dual boot. I am using it under GNU/Linux 98% of my time. Mainly because my company (Intevation) is focused on Free Software business, e.g. Kolab and I run the KDE Kolab Client and also do tests of the server. And secondly because I value my freedom. Exceptions are when I want to test Free Software under Mac OS 10. E.g. like thuban.intevation.org. Bernhard pgph3C7Msx6h2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xorg ati external display and XVIDEO
You can stop the scolling of your powerbooks LCD by setting MergedNonRectangular to true in your device section. This is what mine looks like:Option UseFBDev falseOption MergedFB true Option MergedNonRectangular trueOption CRT2Position LeftOfxine video works fine for me on both displays.On 5/11/06, Bernhard Reiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 01:12:50PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: Anyway, you can achieve the overlay setting as a radeon driver option in xorg.conf. This has been removed in favour of the Xv adaptor port attribute. Oops. What a shame the videoadapter section in xorg.conf is still undocumented. I'll go package the xvattr binary, then.Cool, thanks for all the information and work! --To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- --Kyle William Ambroff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +1 (530) 306-5134Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]VoIP: sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wpasupplicant and reboot/shutdown
Hi all, I am running a wpasupplicant dameon. shutting down the machine, /etc/init.d/killprocs stops the daemon: no network available. After killprocs /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh wants to umount nfs shares, but: no network :( the machine hangs and I have to wait long, long time or to hardreset. Any hints? Elimar -- Talking much about oneself can also be a means to conceal oneself. -Friedrich Nietzsche -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATI Radeon 9600 GATOS for TV-out
Has anybody tried using GATOS to provide S-Video out on a Radeon Mobility 9600? http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ -- ___ ERIK CHAKRAVARTY [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with the airport
Hi, I have an Airport Extreme. For 2.6.15 and 16 (but 16 does not have a debian package for Extreme module), I use the following script in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth1 iface eth1 inet manual post-up /etc/network/eugen --- I use the following script eugen: ifconfig $IFACE up iwconfig $IFACE rate 11M # this is because sometimes iwlist eth1 scan does not return any result found=0 for i in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8; do res=`iwlist $IFACE scan` echo $res | grep No scan results if [ $? != 0 ]; then found=1 break fi sleep 3 done if [ $found = 0 ]; then echo No wifi network found. exit fi # wifi network found echo $res|grep dedu /dev/null if [ $? = 0 ]; then # home echo Found dedu essid. iwconfig $IFACE essid dedu key XXX else echo $res|grep lifcap /dev/null if [ $? = 0 ]; then # office iwconfig $IFACE essid any key YYY ... I do know anything about WPA. HTH, -- Eugen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with the airport
Hi, I am really sorry, I forgot to add the end of the eugen script: # sleep is needed to give the card sufficient time to connect the AP # you can check this by looking at the AP MAC address with iwconfig (sleep 15 ; dhclient $IFACE) HTH, -- Eugen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
efficient
What's interesting for Sven isn't really a consideration, what's reasonable and efficient is. Once this has been tried for some time, I'll be happy to reconsider whether it's effective; if it's going to be dismissed out of hand, though, that indicates a lack of good faith. I am sorry I had to interject here. The first definition of efficient is Acting directly to produce an effect -- http://www.thefreedictionary.com/efficient Making Sven jump through hoops to update code that he had or has to work in is anything but direct or efficient. Another definition under the Thesaurus part of the above page is being effective without wasting time or effort or expense Now I am not an expert on what happened, and don't claim to be. If you don't like him and don't want him, say that, if he screwed up, then it may be a competancy problem, and say that, but a group should not hide behind an argument of reasonability and efficiency when the whole basis of the argument is inefficient --Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...]
(Original message quoted in full as I'm CCing d-boot and several others. Unfortunately the original message is already quite complex.) On Monday 08 May 2006 11:18, you wrote: it was brought to my attention that you are not reading debian-powerpc, thus I am forwarding my email to you directly. That is correct, mainly as I do not have a powerpc system myself. b) The social and personal side is important. Sven's emails are clearly showing this, but some of the responses by Thomas and others did not reflect this. Yes, but Sven's emails are also only showing one side of the issue. I have not replied to the various threads because I have no interest in prolonging this discussion. The second reason was that there was a mediation going on by the DPL and his second in command and I did not want to interfere in that. My part is: Writing this comment to help the situation. I am also speaking up to support Sven. I believe that he was bit badly treated in the thread. No matter what he did to contribute to the situation, this list has people which are new to the problem. Well, I'm afraid we disagree there and I don't feel that someone who has not followed all that's happened over the last year on the various lists and IRC channels (mostly d-boot and d-kernel, but elsewhere as well) can really judge the rights and wrongs here. Also, this is not really about right or wrong, but about having some fun while working on Debian in general and the installer in particular. Having fun is very important when it comes to a volunteer based project and I'm afraid that Sven was reducing the fun for several core members of the d-i team in a way that has become unacceptable. What could have been done better? If Sven's commit rights have been revoked and he got kicked out, it would be very good to give a reasonable explanation that people can be point people to. The usage of the phrase kicked by Sven, seems to indicate that there was no common position why he left the d-i team. Kicking out Sven from the d-i team had already been discussed twice this year. Eventually we did not have to kick him out as Sven himself resigned from the team. We (I) revoked his commit access mainly because of the broken personal relationships between Sven and other members of the d-i team. IMO it is not good that someone who is not friendly towards a team has commit access to their source repository. In the long run that will only lead to new conflicts. It is much better to have a clean break and maybe resume a normal working relation later on when things have calmed down and people are willing to work together again. Note that it is just as easy to grant commit access as it is to revoke it and I do not exclude the possibility that Sven will be allowed commit access again in the future. There will have to be major changes in his attitude for that to happen though. I should have informed Sven that his commit access had been revoked and I have apologized for failing to do that on other lists. c) I have the feeling of an incomplete picture. Sven, you could have pointed to the reasons why your commit rights have been revoked or that those reasons are missing right on the start. That would have helped me. But also others could help to to get more clear about this. What is the d-i position on not wanting Sven? Are there already explanations somebody could point me to? See above. I'm not willing to repeat all the individual incidents as I feel that would not help the current situation. d) Thomas disregarded Sven's estimation about the diffculties of the d-i efforts and the port. I think this is a mistake on the technical side, Sven has experience and his estimations deserve a sound evaluation and a serious rebuttal. Of course he is not the only competent person, but this does not discredit his estimations. On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 08:21:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, May 01, 2006 at 02:20:09AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 27 April 2006 13:39, Sven Luther wrote: I revoked your commit rights immediately after your resignation from the team because I felt (and I still do) that things had deteriorated so much that the d-i team was better of without any involvement from you. Frans, this can be okay (without knowing what the probkems are), but .. Also, I did not want any interference in the work of (the) new powerpc porter(s). I fail to see how Sven giving a hand would be that bad (even without commit rights), at the worst case he would need to be ignored which seems worth the risk to me. I have no problems with that and it is part of the proposal from the DPL. The fact that you attempted to fix the cd building breakage without first consulting is proof that that was not unjustified. This might have been a documentable case where clear requirements of d-i commit rights (as I imagine
Re: powerbook5,6 questions
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 16:26 +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 02:01:38AM +0200, Benoit Chesneau wrote: I'v an alubook (powerbook5,6 1.67) with ati RV360M11 and I'm tempted to pass it under linux. My company has the previous model PowerBook5,6 1,5 ati RV350 9600 M10, I am the main user. I would like to know if now Airport extrem works well Since early this year I could make it work, I expect this to get better with the next linux releases. and if I can video/dvi out under linux and especially debianppc. See Benjamin's answers for this. I am using SVGA external display output for presentations, the only problem is that the difference of resolutions. Some beamers might have problems with it, but it is possible to work around them. Usually I use a virtual screen of 1280x1024 points for presentations. You an also have several clone modes with different resolutions and use xrandr to switch between them. Btw does someone use this laptop fulltime under linux ? For what reason? I'm very interrested by your feedback. My machine is dual boot. I am using it under GNU/Linux 98% of my time. Mainly because my company (Intevation) is focused on Free Software business, e.g. Kolab and I run the KDE Kolab Client and also do tests of the server. And secondly because I value my freedom. Exceptions are when I want to test Free Software under Mac OS 10. E.g. like thuban.intevation.org. Bernhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
