Re: snd-aoa status update / automatic driver loading
On 5/23/06, Sjoerd Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 11:20:29PM +1000, Paul Collins wrote: Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 10:25 +0300, Eddy Petri??or wrote: Any chance for 5,2 ? What is needed for it? Codec only? I don't know. If you try loading the modules, the kernel will tell you something about an unhandled layout id. Alternatively, you can find the layout-id file in your /proc/device-tree/ and tell me the number in it. The rest I can figure out. I wanted to test on my PowerBook5,2. Uhfortunately i can't find no layout-id file for the sound device or any other layout-id file for that matter: Same machine here; I have cloned the aoa repo and made it. Insmod didn't work on any other module but the the soundbus, and resulted in a missing symbol. This is on a 2.16.17 kernel -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein
Re: snd-aoa status update / automatic driver loading
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 11:42 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 08:15 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Right, that's how snd-powermac does it. It has the nasty side-effect of polluting the cache a lot though, since dbdma commands are 16 bytes long. Am I wrong? You don't have that much DBDMA commands that it would pollute the cache _a lot_ :) Ah, yeah, I guess so. Well I do have 32 dbdma commands, them being spaced up in 16-bytes means 16 cachelines, no? I'm not sure how the cache is wired up ... On a 32 bits CPU yes. Alsa calls this thing the 'pointer' :) The frame counter we currently use is the frame counter register of the i2s bus controller, and I don't see why we shouldn't do that instead of reading back all the dbdma command status fields. If you manage to have it properly in sync, that may work too. Seems to work fine so far, even if bcm43xx kills a few interrupts ;) So it's bcm's fault ? Did you do a bit of analysis ? that would be useful... Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gobby 0.4.0-rc1 compiling problems
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Re: snd-aoa status update / automatic driver loading
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 18:00 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: So it's bcm's fault ? Did you do a bit of analysis ? that would be useful... I kinda assumed the list was lagging again and my brother had already posted the solution. Yes, bcm does some measuring stuff that keeps interrupts disabled for lots of milliseconds (25 or something). It's being fixed. I still think, however, that we ought to be able to deal with lost interrupts. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: snd-aoa status update / automatic driver loading
On 5/25/06, Eddy Petrişor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is on a 2.16.17 kernel err, 2.6.16.17 -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein
can't find a way to type brackets on powerbook g3
Hello everyone, I'm moving to linux and I installed debian sarge on my old powerbook g3 (lombard). Everyting worked fine and I added window maker to get a confortable developing platform with vi and gcc. But I'm not able to type square and curly brackets... I was trying option+(), option+shift+(), alt+..., ctrl+... alt+shift+..., ctrl+shift+..., almost with every character on the keyboard Then I tried to compose ascii code (option+fn+123...), unsuccessfully, so I made some search on google (even some group) with keywords like ascii debian ppc, linux keyboard powerbook... but I couldn't find anything... where is my mistake? thanks in advance domenico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux on Mac PPC vs AMD64
this may be a slight off subject, however, I have a choice to purchase a dual g5 with 4gb of Ram, or build a dual core AMD 64 with 8GB or Ram... the real question here, is longevities. Since Mac is dumping ppc is moving intel, and AMD 64 is moving up the ranks... I was just thinking, if I purchase the Mac, may have a problem of supported hardware for ppc ??? please note: been a long time mac user since 1982, however, open source is really taking over, and looking to stay with the flow. Regards Rich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMP PReP (was Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...)
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:50:57AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:14:33PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: SMP never worked under Linux on those machines because the AIX boot sequence to enable it was never successfully reverse-engineered. Ah, ok, then it makes no sense to build a special kernel for those, until more information is found about the above. I have a Motorola MTX PreP system with dual 604e's that I can test this on. But you never managed to get SMP working on it, right ? SMP works but I was having problems where it would crash after 3 or 4 months of uptime in the software raid1 code. This was with 2.4 kernels though.. I have not tried a recent 2.6 kernel yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [snd] looking for layout-ids
Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, In order to replace snd-powermac for the newer machines where the 'sound' node has the 'layout-id' property, I'm looking for testers on machines that have a layout-id [1] property with one of the following values: 0x24, 0x29, 0x33, 0x50 and 0x3a. 0x33 here. -- Dag vijandelijk luchtschip de huismeester is dood -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: snd-aoa status update / automatic driver loading
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 20:44 +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: On 5/18/06, Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 10:25 +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: Any chance for 5,2 ? What is needed for it? Codec only? I don't know. If you try loading the modules, the kernel will tell you something about an unhandled layout id. Alternatively, you can find the layout-id file in your /proc/device-tree/ and tell me the number in it. The rest I can figure out. I am not sure if you can make _now_ somethign out of this info, but I guess this is will not hurt: Hrm, I keep forgetting that you don't have a layout-id property... I need to sort some things, been doing so much other stuff that I lost track. Sorry. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: can't find a way to type brackets on powerbook g3
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:35:39PM +0200, domenico wrote: Hello everyone, I'm moving to linux and I installed debian sarge on my old powerbook g3 (lombard). Everyting worked fine and I added window maker to get a confortable developing platform with vi and gcc. But I'm not able to type square and curly brackets... I was trying option+(), option+shift+(), alt+..., ctrl+... alt+shift+..., ctrl+shift+..., almost with every character on the keyboard Then I tried to compose ascii code (option+fn+123...), unsuccessfully, so I made some search on google (even some group) with keywords like ascii debian ppc, linux keyboard powerbook... but I couldn't find anything... where is my mistake? I don't believe this was your mistake: IIRC I *never* had a working notebook keyboard (DE) on Debian after a fresh install .. :) .. If it's just your keyboard on X that does not seem to work, you might let people know what keyboard layout you have: qwertz or qwerty, French, Italian or English, etc. ... this way people could be able to send you their .xmodmap file that you can test/load with a 'xmodmap .xmodmap' (w/o the quotes) I'm no sure whether with a recent X the following notes are still helpful: How To Set Up Your Keyboard For X: http://wolfgangpfeiffer.com/foolinglinux.html#keyboard HTH Best Regards Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer: /ICQ: 286585973/ + + + /AIM: crashinglinux/ http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer Key ID: E3037113 http://keyserver.mine.nu/pks/lookup?search=0xE3037113fingerprint=on -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't find a way to type brackets on powerbook g3
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 09:35:39PM +0200, domenico wrote: Hello everyone, I'm moving to linux and I installed debian sarge on my old powerbook g3 (lombard). Everyting worked fine and I added window maker to get a confortable developing platform with vi and gcc. But I'm not able to type square and curly brackets... I was trying option+(), option+shift+(), alt+..., ctrl+... alt+shift+..., ctrl+shift+..., almost with every character on the keyboard Then I tried to compose ascii code (option+fn+123...), unsuccessfully, so I made some search on google (even some group) with keywords like ascii debian ppc, linux keyboard powerbook... but I couldn't find anything... where is my mistake? What is your keyboard layout? US? Italian? Other? Gabriel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [snd] looking for layout-ids
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 23:11 +0100, Ken Moffat wrote: it seemed to build fine with this morning's git. There were some messages during the build which might be important (I'm using gcc-4.1.0) but I guess they are probably standard alsa things : CC [M] /home/ken/snd-aoa/soundbus/core.o In file included from /home/ken/snd-aoa/soundbus/soundbus.h:12, from /home/ken/snd-aoa/soundbus/core.c:12: include/sound/pcm.h:59: warning: ‘struct snd_pcm_substream’ declared inside parameter list include/sound/pcm.h:59: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want include/sound/pcm.h:60: warning: ‘struct snd_pcm_substream’ declared inside parameter list Nah, those should not happen. What kernel are you building against? i2sbus: ! WARNING ! i2sbus: control: couldn't allocate resource i2sbus: going ahead anyway That's fine. Everyone gets it :) johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [snd] looking for layout-ids
Hey, How about 0x3c and 0x3d (PowerMac9,1) ? I can't see anything in snd-aoa-fabric-layout that matches 60 or 61. I last tried to play with this a few weeks ago, but gave up with what I assumed were config problems (undefined symbols) and had too many other things to get on with. undefined symbols are usually because alsa isn't configured, or snd-pcm isn't loaded. Certainly, this is one of the machines where loading snd-powermac is catastrophic. Catastrophic? How so? Anyway, I don't care much :) Anyway, if you want to give it a spin, try the latest snd-aoa (see http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Projects/snd-aoa/ for a description). It should report an unknown layout, which are those two ones you described above. I think you probably have a tas and topaz combination, so if you get i2sbus to load, I might be able to give you a patch to test. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [snd] looking for layout-ids
In order to replace snd-powermac for the newer machines where the 'sound' node has the 'layout-id' property, I'm looking for testers on machines that have a layout-id [1] property with one of the following values: 0x24 That would be mine, but it has the problem of the broken device tree, so i2sbus doesn't work yet. Ah, right. I'll have to check with Ben a bit more when he comes back. He seemed to have half of a plan ;) [2] Before you ask: I will not do this before snd-aoa supports headphone detection :) Another important feature would be DRC, IMHO. Yeah, I guess, but that's only doable with the tas codec. I don't think it's hard, if anyone wnats to try: the tas datasheet is in my repository, and all you need to do is modify the tas codec to show the controls for that. Could also use some bass/treble controls. If we want DRC even for the other machines, that's an alsa userspace thing since it needs a soft-DSP then. johannes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [snd] looking for layout-ids
Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In order to replace snd-powermac for the newer machines where the 'sound' node has the 'layout-id' property, I'm looking for testers on machines that have a layout-id [1] property with one of the following values: 0x24 That would be mine, but it has the problem of the broken device tree, so i2sbus doesn't work yet. [2] Before you ask: I will not do this before snd-aoa supports headphone detection :) Another important feature would be DRC, IMHO. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SuSE Labs, [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany PGP key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 And now for something completely different. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on Mac PPC vs AMD64
On Thu, 25 May 2006 17:30:07 +0200, Richard wrote: I was just thinking, if I purchase the Mac, may have a problem of supported hardware for ppc ??? I would go for the AMD64 machine, given its compatibility with IA-32 (that comes in handy) and the low cost. Please note I have no clue whatsoever about performance differences. -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMP PReP (was Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...)
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 11:14:33PM -0500, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: SMP never worked under Linux on those machines because the AIX boot sequence to enable it was never successfully reverse-engineered. Ah, ok, then it makes no sense to build a special kernel for those, until more information is found about the above. I have a Motorola MTX PreP system with dual 604e's that I can test this on. But you never managed to get SMP working on it, right ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMP PReP (was Re: The powerpc port should be removed from etch release candidates ...)
On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 05:00:15PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 07:09:08PM -0700, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: On Thu, 04 May 2006 23:41:28 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 10:52:49AM -0500, Olof Johansson wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 12:12:56PM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 08:41:34AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 04:38:07PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Hey, cool. so ARCH=ppc will work both for apus and prep, and the rest should go with ARCH=powerpc. This is the case both for 2.6.16 and the upcoming 2.6.17, right ? I don't remember when he fixed it precisely but I think 2.6.16 got it yes. Do you know if there are SMP PReP machines around ? I think i will do only a UP -prep flavour. There were at least dual 604 PreP boards. The IBM 7043-240 is a dual-cpu system, I think it's PReP? Thanks for the info. Friendly, Sven Luther SMP never worked under Linux on those machines because the AIX boot sequence to enable it was never successfully reverse-engineered. Ah, ok, then it makes no sense to build a special kernel for those, until more information is found about the above. I have a Motorola MTX PreP system with dual 604e's that I can test this on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: snd-aoa status update / automatic driver loading
On 5/18/06, Johannes Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 10:25 +0300, Eddy Petrişor wrote: Any chance for 5,2 ? What is needed for it? Codec only? I don't know. If you try loading the modules, the kernel will tell you something about an unhandled layout id. Alternatively, you can find the layout-id file in your /proc/device-tree/ and tell me the number in it. The rest I can figure out. I am not sure if you can make _now_ somethign out of this info, but I guess this is will not hurt: http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2006/04/msg00059.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2006/04/msg00063.html -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein
