Gnash on ppc

2006-06-02 Thread Federico Pistono

Hi,
I compiled from cvs gnash, according to the manual it should work
smoothly, though it doesn't specify if that includes pcc arch.

I followed the man and added the gnash support in the mozplugger.

¤ gnash --version
Gnash 0.7.1

¤ firefox
about:plugins
MozPlugger 1.7.3 handles QuickTime Windows Media Player Plugin
[...]
application/x-shockwave-flash   Shockwave Gnash swf Yes

The standalone player seems to work, veeery slowly, but the embed does
not. All it does is bring the cpu to 100% and stay there until I close
the tab. No youtube and google video until now...

Folks with an x86 claim that it works fine.

Anyone tried?
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Re: Gnash on ppc

2006-06-02 Thread ruben

At Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:08:16 +0200, Federico Pistono wrote:
> 
> The standalone player seems to work, veeery slowly, but the embed does
> not. All it does is bring the cpu to 100% and stay there until I close
> the tab. No youtube and google video until now...

I've never tried Gnash, but if you're specifically looking for youtube
and google video, then try the following site:

http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php

I've used it a couple of times before to download a video from
youtube.  It lets you save the video locally, and then you can play it
with mplayer.

ruben


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Re: Gnash on ppc

2006-06-02 Thread Jonas Aamodt Moræus

Hello!

Here is my experience with gnash and mozplugger (from
/etc/mozpluggerrc):


### Flash

#define(FLASH,[ignore_errors swallow(Gnash): /home/moraus/gnash/bin/gnash -x 
$window $file])
#define(FLASH,[noisy embed hidden fill 
swallow(Gnash):/home/moraus/gnash/bin/gnash -ml -1 -a -x $window "$file"])
define(FLASH,[noisy embed hidden fill 
swallow(Gnash):/home/moraus/gnash/bin/gnash -b 32 $file])
#define(FLASH,[swallow(Flash): qemu-i386 -L 
/usr/local/flash_x86/usr/local/flash_x86/usr/bin/gflashplayer $file])

They all have som advantages and disadvantages, you can try for your
self. Note that the second line only displays the first frame and
freezes.


and futher down in /etc/mozpluggerrc

application/x-shockwave-flash: swf: Flash animation
 FLASH()
 

Good luck :-)


On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 09:26:16AM +0200, ruben wrote:
> 
> At Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:08:16 +0200, Federico Pistono wrote:
> > 
> > The standalone player seems to work, veeery slowly, but the embed does
> > not. All it does is bring the cpu to 100% and stay there until I close
> > the tab. No youtube and google video until now...
> 
> I've never tried Gnash, but if you're specifically looking for youtube
> and google video, then try the following site:
> 
> http://javimoya.com/blog/youtube_en.php
> 
> I've used it a couple of times before to download a video from
> youtube.  It lets you save the video locally, and then you can play it
> with mplayer.
> 
> ruben
> 
> 
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Re: boot from ethernet with imac g3

2006-06-02 Thread Giulio Canevari

In data 31/05/2006 23:03 Hans Ekbrand ha scritto:

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:53:50PM +0200, Giulio Canevari wrote:

[...]

I'm unable to partition the hd nor to fetch at least the base packages
from the net with the internal modem with ppp, the installer seems to be
targeted only at cdrom install.



Debian-installer comes in different flavours intended for different
uses. The main thing that differs are the modules available in the
initrd, in your case you should try to install everything from the
net, that is net-install. Let me quote an earlier post to this list
about the debian-installer:

...

B. From where is the debian-installer to get its *own modules* (needed
for its own functioning)?

1. From the removable media (CDROM or usb) that started the debian-installer at 
boot
2. From .iso-file on local harddisk (Filesystem must be readable by the debian-installer, which exludes HFS+) 
3. From the net (internet or local debian-mirror) 

...

You control B by choosing what images you will use. I *think* any
image can be started in any of the tree ways outlined in A (thus
netboot does NOT imply a tftp boot).

"Netboot" means B:3 
"Hd-media" means B:2

"Business" means B:1

I think that you can choose C1 and C2 at install time (if you run the
installer at a low enough priority)

...

Actually i have got the debian-businnesscard iso [ from wich i have took
the kernel, yaboot and so on placed in /tftpboot ], 



I think that when you use the initrd from the businesscard flavor that
means B:1, so you will have to use a usb-stick to load parts of the
installer. Another strategy is to download an kernel+initrd from the


On http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ i read something like this ( i 
translate it in poor english ):


These images contain only the minimum necessary to boot the 
installation, so only those part of the installer needed to configure 
the net access so that you can download other components of the 
installer system.


After having installed the very base system my idea is to perform an 
apt-get upgrade and give the list of packages to download  to a friend 
of mine with a fast connection.


This way:
dpkg --get-selection >list.txt from my x86
dpkg --set-selections And then, once i have got the packages, i'll try to install an ftp 
server on my x86 to finish the install ( even if i don't know how i can 
organize the structure of the dirs, iirc there is an automated tool but 
i don't remember its name ).



I'm CC:ing debian-boot@lists.debian.org in order to get advice from
the really knowledgeable people on this subject.


I'll keep the address and i cc to.

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Re: make-kpkg kernel_image fails with current kernel

2006-06-02 Thread Thorsten Gunkel
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:49:22AM +0200, Thorsten Gunkel wrote:
>> Thorsten Gunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Adam Done <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Adam Done wrote:
>> >>>I have been trying today to compile a vanilla 2.6.16 kernel direct from
>> >>>kernel.org and every time I get the same errors at the very end.
>> > # make-kpkg kernel_image
>> > | cp arch/ppc/boot/images/vmlinux.coff   
>> > debian/tmp-image/boot/vmlinux.coff-2.6.17-rc4
>> I tried to build it the traditional way (make instead of make-kpkg
>> kernel_image) and this seems to work. Here the Kernel image is placed in
>> arch/powerpc/boot/ and not arch/ppc/bot/
>> It has been mentioned in this thread that there was a name change so I
>> retried with
>> make-kpkg --arch powerpc kernel_image
>> but this seems to be ignored. Maybe the whole problem is #344833 or
>> #342767. I'll retry with a newer kernel-package
> Since make-kpkg is used to build the official images, and those official
> images build fine, there should be no problem. arch/ppc is indeed broken for
> any powermacs, and there is no chance of it working. Still, recent make-kpkg
> should be able to detect the right thing all by themselves, and should be
> fine. I did provide the patch myself. If you have still problem with it, you
> need to file a bug against kernel-package, and please C me on the bug.

# fakeroot apt-get source -b make-dfsg
dpkg -i resulting debs
# fakeroot apt-get source -b kernel-package
(with sources pointing to testing) and I can indeed built kernel images
again :-)

Thanks to #debianppc (and especially _rene_) my
| Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on uknown-block(0,0)
problem is also solved. I forgot
,
| CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC=y
| CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PMAC_ATA100FIRST=y
`

> Friendly,
> Sven Luther

| # uname -r
| 2.6.17-rc5

And Airport Extreme works out of the box:

| # iwconfig eth2 | grep eth2
| eth2  IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"X"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4306"

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Re: boot from ethernet with imac g3

2006-06-02 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 11:39:01AM +0200, Giulio Canevari wrote:
> In data 31/05/2006 23:03 Hans Ekbrand ha scritto:
> >On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:53:50PM +0200, Giulio Canevari wrote:

[This is about an installation on a box with a broken CD, and non
working nic-configuration in the native OS (Mac OS 8.1). And no
floppy-drive, so the installer must be netbooted]

> >>I'm unable to partition the hd nor to fetch at least the base packages
> >>from the net with the internal modem with ppp, the installer seems to be
> >>targeted only at cdrom install.

partitioning the hd requires modules that is not included in the most
minimal initrd. I think the installer of that flavor (with the most minimal
initrd) is supposed to get the needed modules from the net (which IMHO
is a very cool property of d-i). However, my own experience with this
stems from boot-floppies of different flavors, not CDs.

Before anything can be fetched from the net, the nic must be
recognized. If the installer does not recognize your nic then I would
suspect one of the following:

A) wrong flavor used: (a initrd that has modules for different cd:s
   rather than different nics

B) a bug in the installer (the nic module for your particular nic
   should have been included in the initrd).

> >B. From where is the debian-installer to get its *own modules* (needed
> >for its own functioning)?
> >
> >1. From the removable media (CDROM or usb) that started the 
> >debian-installer at boot
> >2. From .iso-file on local harddisk (Filesystem must be readable by the 
> >debian-installer, which exludes HFS+) 3. From the net (internet or local 
> >debian-mirror) 
> ...
> >You control B by choosing what images you will use. I *think* any
> >image can be started in any of the tree ways outlined in A (thus
> >netboot does NOT imply a tftp boot).
> >
> >"Netboot" means B:3 
> >"Hd-media" means B:2
> >"Business" means B:1

That might very well be outdated info. From the description the
netinst link you give below business should be the right one (include
the nics-modules needed).

> >I think that you can choose C1 and C2 at install time (if you run the
> >installer at a low enough priority)
> ...
> >>Actually i have got the debian-businnesscard iso [ from wich i have took
> >>the kernel, yaboot and so on placed in /tftpboot ], 
> >
> >
> >I think that when you use the initrd from the businesscard flavor that
> >means B:1, so you will have to use a usb-stick to load parts of the
> >installer. Another strategy is to download an kernel+initrd from the
> 
> On http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ i read something like this ( i 
> translate it in poor english ):
> 
> These images contain only the minimum necessary to boot the 
> installation, so only those part of the installer needed to configure 
> the net access so that you can download other components of the 
> installer system.

Yeah, that does sounds like what you need. Now, since you are
netbooting, everything needed must reside in the initrd (it doesn't
help if its on the business-image outside the initrd). Have you looked
on the cd and can you verify that there is no other needed files on
that cd than the initrd and the kernel.

> After having installed the very base system my idea is to perform an 
> apt-get upgrade and give the list of packages to download  to a friend 
> of mine with a fast connection.

Sure, but "the very base system" (the base system) is a lot more than
what is included in the initrd. So, you have to get the installer to
recognize your nic (and download the packages that makes up the base
system) in order to install the base system.

> This way:
> dpkg --get-selection >list.txt from my x86
> dpkg --set-selections   and i'll need a way to transfer this list, usb key or via net in some way.
> apt-get --print-uris -s dselect-upgrade
> 
> And then, once i have got the packages, i'll try to install an ftp 
> server on my x86 to finish the install ( even if i don't know how i can 
> organize the structure of the dirs, iirc there is an automated tool but 
> i don't remember its name ).

As indicated above, I think you have to let the installer download
things even before this stage.

> >I'm CC:ing debian-boot@lists.debian.org in order to get advice from
> >the really knowledgeable people on this subject.
> 
> I'll keep the address and i cc to.
> 
> Thank you,

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Re: Gnash on ppc

2006-06-02 Thread Eddy Petrişor

On 6/2/06, Jonas Aamodt Moræus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello!

Here is my experience with gnash and mozplugger (from
/etc/mozpluggerrc):

[snip]

> I've never tried Gnash, but if you're specifically looking for youtube
> and google video, then try the following site:


Miriam, I know you are working on a package for Gnash, could you give
more info about the progress?

Is it done? Usable? Testable? Any idea about the problems ancountered
by Federico?

"The standalone player seems to work, veeery slowly, but the embed does
not. All it does is bring the cpu to 100% and stay there until I close
the tab. No youtube and google video until now..."

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Re: Gnash on ppc

2006-06-02 Thread Miriam Ruiz

 --- Eddy Petrişor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:

> Miriam, I know you are working on a package for Gnash, could you give
> more info about the progress?

The latest (and only) release of Gnash is currently waiting in the NEW queue
to enter experimental. It is the 1st alpha release, according to upstream.

Standalone gnash works quite good for me. There seem to be some instability
problems with the plugins though. Upstream are working on that.

My latest CVS-based packages of Gnash are from 30th of May, and (after some
days of problems in building the original sources) seem to be OK. I'm not
really willing to maintain a CVS-based version inside Debian's repositories,
but I'd prefer to wait until a new release is done.

I probably won't get it out of experimental until upstream formally releases a
beta version.

> Is it done? Usable? Testable? Any idea about the problems ancountered
> by Federico?
> "The standalone player seems to work, veeery slowly, but the embed does
> not. All it does is bring the cpu to 100% and stay there until I close
> the tab. No youtube and google video until now..."

It's testeable and maybe usable for some things, but it's not in the state to
be given to end users yet.

It seems you might be having some problem with OpenGL acceleration. Gnash uses
OpenGL right now for rendering, although Upstream is working on that too.

The README file in the release waiting in the NEW queue says:

  The first alpha release of Gnash has just been made at version
  0.7.1. Gnash is a GPL'd Flash movie player and browser plugin for
  Firefox, Mozilla, Konqueror, and Opera. Gnash supports many SWF v7
  features and ActionScript3 classes. Gnash also runs on many GNU/Linux
  distributions, embedded GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, non x86
  processors, and 64 bit architectures. Ports to Darwin and Windows are
  in progress for a future release. The plugin works best with Firefox
  1.5 or newer, and should work in any Mozilla based browser. There is
  also a standalone player for GNOME or KDE based desktops.
  
  Gnash supports the majority of Flash opcodes up to SWF version 7, and
  a wide sampling of ActionScript classes for SWF version 8.5. All the
  core ones are implemented, and many of the newer ones work, but may be
  missing some of their methods. If the browser only displays a blank
  window, it is likely because of an unimplemented feature. All
  unimplemented opcodes and ActionScript classes and methods print a
  warning when using -v with gnash or gprocessor. Using gprocessor -v is
  a quick way to see why a movie isn't playing correctly.

Greetings,
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Re: boot from ethernet with imac g3

2006-06-02 Thread Rich Johnson
On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:39 AM, Giulio Canevari wrote:After having installed the very base system my idea is to perform an apt-get upgrade and give the list of packages to download  to a friend of mine with a fast connection. You might find it easier to take the iMac to that friend and download the packages directly.  Otherwise you still have to find a way to move several hundred MB of data without a CD.

Re: boot from ethernet with imac g3

2006-06-02 Thread Daniel Gimpelevich
On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 14:23:52 +0200, Hans Ekbrand wrote:

> Before anything can be fetched from the net, the nic must be
> recognized. If the installer does not recognize your nic then I would
> suspect one of the following:
> 
> A) wrong flavor used: (a initrd that has modules for different cd:s
>rather than different nics
> 
> B) a bug in the installer (the nic module for your particular nic
>should have been included in the initrd).

If the NIC is not recognized out-of-the-box, look for the "bmac" module.


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Re: Video problems installing etch on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige G3)

2006-06-02 Thread Yavor Doganov
At Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:02:13 -0700,
Daniel Gimpelevich wrote:
> 
> Make sure you don't use a version prior to 1.2.2, and copy the kernel args
> for installation from the yaboot.conf on the CD, but increase the initrd
> size to at least 20480.

I think I have the same problem as the original OP with my Gossamer.
I asked for help about a month ago, to no avail.  I tried to follow
your advice here, but still no luck.  Currently I'm using kernel 2.6.8
under sid.

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Trackpad Acting Strange

2006-06-02 Thread Ben Racher
I just updated and now the trackpad on my powerbook 5,4 is acting a 
little funny. I don't believe this model has synaptics, I don't have it 
enabled in my xorg.conf anyway. But when I move the mouse, and then pull 
my finger off the trackpad, the pointer jumps about an inch the right, 
which makes precision clicking somewhat impossible. I do have mouseemu 
installed. Any clues?


ben


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