Re: 17 Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:32:34AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
 On Friday 11 August 2006 00:17, Adam D wrote:
  Adam D wrote:
   BXrge Holen wrote:
   On Thursday 10 August 2006 23:53, Adam D wrote:
   OK,  I decided to just install Ubuntu on the 2nd Gen 17 powerbook with
   ext3 as the file system and it works for now instead of booting into
   xfs.
  
   Upon startup and starting the network interfaces and then the portmap
   the fan turns on full throttle and spins for a while. It is semi loud
   and is rather annoying.   Is there a way not to have the fan spin when
   booting into Ubunto on startup?
  
   Is the fan a problem? As in; a fault that make it spin, instead of
   temp.? Anyway, I believe I had some sort of unagreement with my fan
   together with kernel 2.6.8, while at it, I'm not completely sure.
  
   -Adam
  
   Guess one would say it is not a problem however when booting into OSX the
   fan does not turn on unless of something really pushing the CPU hard.  On
   Ubuntu the fan is extremely sensitive and turns on with the slightest
    thing running.
 Yes, that could be what I mentioned, I installed debian testing and a vanilla 
 kernel, problem solved.

Can you file a bug report, including a diff of your .config and the debian
stock one, as well as the version used ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: 17 Powerbook fan turns on when starting into Ubuntu Dapper

2006-08-11 Thread Børge Holen
On Friday 11 August 2006 08:11, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:32:34AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
  On Friday 11 August 2006 00:17, Adam D wrote:
   Adam D wrote:
BXrge Holen wrote:
On Thursday 10 August 2006 23:53, Adam D wrote:
OK,  I decided to just install Ubuntu on the 2nd Gen 17 powerbook
with ext3 as the file system and it works for now instead of
booting into xfs.
   
Upon startup and starting the network interfaces and then the
portmap the fan turns on full throttle and spins for a while. It is
semi loud and is rather annoying.   Is there a way not to have the
fan spin when booting into Ubunto on startup?
   
Is the fan a problem? As in; a fault that make it spin, instead of
temp.? Anyway, I believe I had some sort of unagreement with my fan
together with kernel 2.6.8, while at it, I'm not completely sure.
   
-Adam
   
Guess one would say it is not a problem however when booting into OSX
the fan does not turn on unless of something really pushing the CPU
hard.  On Ubuntu the fan is extremely sensitive and turns on with the
slightest thing running.
 
  Yes, that could be what I mentioned, I installed debian testing and a
  vanilla kernel, problem solved.

 Can you file a bug report, including a diff of your .config and the debian
 stock one, as well as the version used ?

Within the weekend. Dunno 'bout the ubuntu, but I'll fetch the stock deb. 
Both the 2.6.8 and 2.6.15, can't remember witch one I used, but the problems 
sounds just the same.


 Friendly,

 Sven Luther

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Re: Quik and atyfb

2006-08-11 Thread Simon Stapleton

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On 10 Aug 2006, at 22:19, Holger Levsen wrote:


Hi,

On Saturday 15 July 2006 17:17, Ben Racher wrote:
So my Powerbook G3 266mhz Wallstreet is now successfully running  
Debian,

however its a little slow. And I suspect the culprit is the video
acceleration that is issued by quik when you first load the  
kernel. I've

been using:
video=atyfb:vmode:16,cmode:32,mclk:67
However, it doesn't seem to let me boot, as a get a crazy mess of
graphics going hangwire. Is there something in quik that needs to
changed, or is the above command incorrect?


have you tried just using video=atyfb ?

According to http://www.jonh.net/lppcfom-serve/cache/1043.html you  
should use

a cmode of 24 and probably also a lower vmode. Whats mclk?


Yes, just using video=atyfb causes the same issue.  There is a  
difference somewhere in the way quik configures stuff and the way  
BootX/miBoot do it, using video=atyfb (+ all the various gubbins)  
from a BootX / miBoot boot works fine and gives you accelerated  
video, the same from a quik boot results in garbage.


It's a bit of a pain, to be frank, but I don't currently have the  
time to delve into the source of both to see what is happening.


Simon 
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Re: 17 Powerbook fan turns on when starting (possible initramfs-tools problem ?)

2006-08-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 08:15:50AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
 On Friday 11 August 2006 08:11, Sven Luther wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 12:32:34AM +0200, Børge Holen wrote:
   On Friday 11 August 2006 00:17, Adam D wrote:
Adam D wrote:
 BXrge Holen wrote:
 On Thursday 10 August 2006 23:53, Adam D wrote:
 OK,  I decided to just install Ubuntu on the 2nd Gen 17 powerbook
 with ext3 as the file system and it works for now instead of
 booting into xfs.

 Upon startup and starting the network interfaces and then the
 portmap the fan turns on full throttle and spins for a while. It is
 semi loud and is rather annoying.   Is there a way not to have the
 fan spin when booting into Ubunto on startup?

 Is the fan a problem? As in; a fault that make it spin, instead of
 temp.? Anyway, I believe I had some sort of unagreement with my fan
 together with kernel 2.6.8, while at it, I'm not completely sure.

 -Adam

 Guess one would say it is not a problem however when booting into OSX
 the fan does not turn on unless of something really pushing the CPU
 hard.  On Ubuntu the fan is extremely sensitive and turns on with the
 slightest thing running.
  
   Yes, that could be what I mentioned, I installed debian testing and a
   vanilla kernel, problem solved.
 
  Can you file a bug report, including a diff of your .config and the debian
  stock one, as well as the version used ?
 
 Within the weekend. Dunno 'bout the ubuntu, but I'll fetch the stock deb. 

Well, i don't particularly care about ubuntu kernels, especially as i can't do
a thing about them :)

 Both the 2.6.8 and 2.6.15, can't remember witch one I used, but the problems 
 sounds just the same.

Please try out 2.6.16 and 2.6.17 in current etch/sid too, but if it is the
same windfarm related bug, it is something which needs fixing in
initramfs-tools. Adding the corresponding module to
/etc/initramfs-tools/modules or whatever it is called should help.

maks, can you provide more insight here ?

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Some .debs are 404

2006-08-11 Thread Rich Johnson

Thanks,



have you tried the sarge kernels 2.6.8, i believe
that officially 2.4 support is plan to be drop in
etch. my old worlds seeming to having trouble with
latest kernels so i may have to go this route...
(have two running sarge with 2.6.8 now ...)


I have, but the main sticking point is the switch from BootX-quik to  
get initrd support (or so I recall).  I did it once, but I've since  
had to reset my PRAM and that sent me back to BootX.  I'll sort it  
out again when I can set aside the time for ''potential recovery  
operations'' in the event I bolix things up.




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yaboot.conf for dual disk, multi-boot systems?

2006-08-11 Thread vze26m98
Greetings-
 
 I have yaboot setup on a Pismo courtesy of Debian, a freshly 
 downloaded copy of the Etch net-install CD, everything running fine 
 with a multi-boot OSX/Debian configuration.
 
 Right now I'm experimenting with Pocket Linux, and thought I could 
 utilize the Zip drive I have for the Pismo media bay to prepare 
 various Linux configurations to experiment with. First task is/was 
 to get yaboot to want to boot a Zip disk.
 
 I've been able to modify my yaboot.conf and install via ybin. What 
 I get on boot when I select my Zip option at the boot: prompt is a file not 
found for 
 /boot/vmlinux.zip. I tried manually typing in the OF device and 
 partition, but it makes no difference. ofpath and the ofpath shell 
 script both return the same thing.
 
 Below is my yaboot.conf. Any suggestions or pointers on how to 
 achieve my goal?
 
 Many thanks! Charles Turner
 
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--- yaboot.conf -
 
 boot=/dev/hda9
 timeout=100
 install=/usr/lib/yaboot/yaboot
 magicboot=/usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot
 
 enablecdboot
 macosx=/dev/hda13
 
 image=/boot/vmlinux
   label=Linux
   read-only
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img
   device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
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   partition=11
   root=/dev/hda11
 
 image=/boot/vmlinux.zip
   label=Zip
   read-only
   initrd=/boot/initrd.img.zip
   device=/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL 
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   root=/dev/hde2


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Re: Some .debs are 404

2006-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas


BootX supports initrd...

Rick

On Aug 11, 2006, at 9:04 AM, Rich Johnson wrote:


Thanks,



have you tried the sarge kernels 2.6.8, i believe
that officially 2.4 support is plan to be drop in
etch. my old worlds seeming to having trouble with
latest kernels so i may have to go this route...
(have two running sarge with 2.6.8 now ...)


I have, but the main sticking point is the switch from BootX-quik  
to get initrd support (or so I recall).  I did it once, but I've  
since had to reset my PRAM and that sent me back to BootX.  I'll  
sort it out again when I can set aside the time for ''potential  
recovery operations'' in the event I bolix things up.




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Re: Some .debs are 404

2006-08-11 Thread Michael Schmitz
 BootX supports initrd...

... as long as it's named 'ramdisk' or some such, IIRC.

Michael


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Re: Some .debs are 404

2006-08-11 Thread Rich Johnson


On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote:


BootX supports initrd...


... as long as it's named 'ramdisk' or some such, IIRC.


Ya' learn something new every day!

Alas, it still doesn't sort out ftp.us.debian.org's issues.


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Re: Some .debs are 404

2006-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas


On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote:


BootX supports initrd...


... as long as it's named 'ramdisk' or some such, IIRC.

Michael


No... It can be named just about anything.  It helps if you put it in  
the Linux Kernels folder, but even that's not strictly necessary.


Rick


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Re: Some .debs are 404

2006-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas


On Aug 11, 2006, at 1:03 PM, Rich Johnson wrote:



On Aug 11, 2006, at 11:08 AM, Michael Schmitz wrote:


BootX supports initrd...


... as long as it's named 'ramdisk' or some such, IIRC.


Ya' learn something new every day!

Alas, it still doesn't sort out ftp.us.debian.org's issues.



Indeed.  They'll either get it sorted, or they won't.  In either  
case, use a different mirror.


Contact me privately (to avoid a /. effect) for a list of the  
mirrors I've had good luck with recently.


Rick


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SCSI in alu-book 5.6/5,8 working

2006-08-11 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi all

Has anybody been able to attach an external SCSI disk via Firewire 400
to one of the latest alubooks, with recent git-kernels?

With this machine it does not work (it never did with any kernel I
tried before, IIRC):

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
cpu : 7447A, altivec supported
clock   : 833.333000MHz
revision: 0.5 (pvr 8003 0105)
bogomips: 16.57
timebase: 832
platform: PowerMac
machine : PowerBook5,8
motherboard : PowerBook5,8 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh 
detected as : 287 (PowerBook G4 15)
pmac flags  : 0019
L2 cache: 512K unified
pmac-generation : NewWorld


The SCSI/FW stuff works like a charm on my old Macintosh titanium-IV
with exactly the same fresh git-kernel that does not work on the
PowerBook5,8

Here's what the failing machine says:
---

$ sh kernel-factory/git.08102006/linux-2.6/scripts/ver_linux 
If some fields are empty or look unusual you may have an old version.
Compare to the current minimal requirements in Documentation/Changes.
 
Linux debby1-6 2.6.18-rc4-060811-dirty #1 Fri Aug 11 00:16:22 CEST 2006 ppc GNU/
Linux
 
Gnu C  4.1.2
Gnu make   3.81
binutils   2.17
util-linux 2.12r
mount  2.12r
module-init-tools  3.2.2
e2fsprogs  1.39
pcmcia-cs  3.2.8
Linux C Library2.3.6
Dynamic linker (ldd)   2.3.6
Procps 3.2.7
Net-tools  1.60
Console-tools  0.2.3
Sh-utils   5.97
udev   093
Modules Loaded raw1394 eth1394 ohci1394 ieee1394 sd_mod sg bluetooth rad
eon drm nfs nfsd exportfs lockd nfs_acl sunrpc ipv6 therm_adt746x sr_mod cpufreq
_powersave cpufreq_performance scsi_mod apm_emu joydev appletouch usbhid snd_aoa
_codec_onyx snd_aoa_fabric_layout snd_aoa pcmcia firmware_class snd_aoa_i2sbus s
nd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm snd_timer snd_page_alloc sungem sungem_phy pmac
_zilog serial_core evdev snd ehci_hcd yenta_socket ohci_hcd rsrc_nonstatic pcmci
a_core uninorth_agp agpgart ide_cd soundcore snd_aoa_soundbus usbcore cdrom i2c_
--

SCSI/FW didn't work ever on the new PowerBook5,8. That's why I built
this fresh git kernel on the alubook. The kernel built in the end. But
no SCSI/FW. available so far.

Here's a typical error message I get when plugging the SCSI disk via
Firewire to the alubook:

Aug 11 23:31:25 debby1-6 kernel: [ 9844.117914] ieee1394: Error parsing 
configrom for node 0-00:1023
Aug 11 23:31:25 debby1-6 kernel: [ 9844.118123] ieee1394: Node changed: 
0-00:1023 - 0-02:1023


Sometimes (it doesn't happen often) the best I get is this when I
attach the SCSI disk: 

-
Aug 11 23:53:16 debby1-6 kernel: [11154.413116] ieee1394: Node changed: 0-02:102
3 - 0-00:1023
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.079353] PM: Adding info for ieee1394:003
0ffa046010cd5
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.079456] ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-0
0:1023]  GUID[0030ffa046010cd5]
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.079626] ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:102
3 - 0-02:1023
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.081535] PM: Adding info for ieee1394:003
0ffa046010cd5-0
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.190054] ieee1394: sbp2: Driver forced to
 serialize I/O (serialize_io=1)
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.190070] ieee1394: sbp2: Try serialize_io
=0 for better performance
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.191555] scsi2 : SBP-2 IEEE-1394
Aug 11 23:53:21 debby1-6 kernel: [11160.191815] PM: Adding info for No Bus:host2
Aug 11 23:53:23 debby1-6 kernel: [11161.295090] ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-
2 device
Aug 11 23:53:23 debby1-6 kernel: [11161.295728] ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max sp
eed [S400] - Max payload [2048]
Aug 11 23:53:23 debby1-6 kernel: [11161.295932] PM: Adding info for No Bus:targe
t2:0:0
Aug 11 23:53:23 debby1-6 kernel: [11161.301996]   Vendor: LSILogic  Model: SYM13
FW500-Disk   Rev: 1.00
Aug 11 23:53:23 debby1-6 kernel: [11161.302026]   Type:   Direct-Access 
 ANSI SCSI revision: 00
Aug 11 23:53:23 debby1-6 kernel: [11161.302323] PM: Adding info for scsi:2:0:0:0
Aug 11 23:53:26 debby1-6 udevd-event[5667]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/de
vices/pci0002:24/0002:24:0e.0/fw-host0/0030ffa046010cd5/0030ffa046010cd5-0/host2
/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/ioerr_cnt' failed
Aug 11 23:53:53 debby1-6 kernel: [11191.302896] ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 
command
Aug 11 23:53:53 debby1-6 kernel: [11191.302912] sd 2:0:0:0: 
Aug 11 23:53:53 debby1-6 kernel: [11191.302915] command: Test Unit 
Ready: 00 00 00 00 00 00
Aug 11 23:54:03 debby1-6 kernel: [11201.302892] ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 
command
Aug 11 23:54:03 debby1-6 kernel: [11201.302909] sd 2:0:0:0: 
Aug 11 23:54:03 debby1-6 kernel: [11201.302913] command: Test Unit 
Ready: 00 00 00 00 00 00
Aug 11 23:54:03 debby1-6 kernel: [11201.302957] 

Re: SCSI/Firewire in alu-book 5.6/5,8 not working

2006-08-11 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer

Sorry: In my first message I made a mistake in the subject line: It's
corrected in this one ...

Sorry
Wolfgang

On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:16:14AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 Hi all
 
 Has anybody been able to attach an external SCSI disk via Firewire 400
 to one of the latest alubooks, with recent git-kernels?


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Re: SCSI/Firewire in alu-book 5,8 not working

2006-08-11 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 12:21:53AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 
 Sorry: In my first message I made a mistake in the subject line: It's
 corrected in this one ...
 

Still BS: I can only talk for the 5,8 one, *not* for the 5,6 one  ...
 ... :/

Sorry #2.

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APM on new iBook G3 HD

2006-08-11 Thread Johannes Volkmann
Hi List,

I have an iBook G3 700 Mhz here, running an 2.6.17.6 and a debian sid. Runs 
fine so far, sleepmode works etc.
Unfortunately I had an HD failure and had to replace the HD. I bought an 
SAMSUNG MP0804H and replaced it. I have not been able to stop this disk from 
running so far!

If I try to enable apm via hdparm, it gets me no errors:
# hdparm -k 1 -B 150 /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
 setting keep_settings to 1 (on)
 setting Advanced Power Management level to 0x96 (150)
 keepsettings =  1 (on)

It prints no errors, neither on the terminal, nor in any logfile I checked. But 
still, it doesn't change the setting, the harddisk is running all the time and 
hdparm shows me, it changed nothing:
# hdparm -i /dev/hda

/dev/hda:

 Model=SAMSUNG MP0804H, FwRev=UE100-19, SerialNo=S042J10L253128
[...]
 AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
[...]

What can I do about it? It is not very healthy for the hd to run all the time, 
I can hear it scratching if I move the machine.

Thanks for any help,

Johannes
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Re: APM on new iBook G3 HD

2006-08-11 Thread ruben

At Sat, 12 Aug 2006 00:30:40 +0200, Johannes Volkmann wrote:
 
 I have an iBook G3 700 Mhz here, running an 2.6.17.6 and a debian
 sid. Runs fine so far, sleepmode works etc.  Unfortunately I had an
 HD failure and had to replace the HD. I bought an SAMSUNG MP0804H
 and replaced it. I have not been able to stop this disk from running
 so far!
 
 If I try to enable apm via hdparm, it gets me no errors:
 # hdparm -k 1 -B 150 /dev/hda
 
 /dev/hda:
  setting keep_settings to 1 (on)
  setting Advanced Power Management level to 0x96 (150)
  keepsettings =  1 (on)
 
 It prints no errors, neither on the terminal, nor in any logfile I
 checked. But still, it doesn't change the setting, the harddisk is
 running all the time and hdparm shows me, it changed nothing:
 # hdparm -i /dev/hda
 
 /dev/hda:
 
  Model=SAMSUNG MP0804H, FwRev=UE100-19, SerialNo=S042J10L253128
 [...]
  AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
 [...]

Did this work with your previous harddrive?

The harddrive in my iBook G4 (Toshiba) also lets me adjust the
setting, but when using the '-i' option, I get this:

AdvancedPM=yes: unknown setting WriteCache=enabled

But I've never actually used the -B option. I always use the -S
option of hdparm to specify a timeout for the drive to spin down after
a given period of inactivity.

 What can I do about it? It is not very healthy for the hd to run all
 the time, I can hear it scratching if I move the machine.

Are you using journalled file systems?  If so, then it's possible that
the harddrive never gets a chance to spin down, because the journal is
committed regularly.  You can try to explicitly specify the commit
interval as a mount option.  Or you can check out laptop-mode-tools:
this is a script that relies on the laptop-mode feature in the Linux
kernel to delay and group disk writes, so as to minimise the time that
the disk is spun up.

Ruben


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