Re: dvi output on powerbook g4 15" (5,6)
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 01:15:50 +, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: > On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 15:31 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: >> On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 14:51 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: >> > >> > I'm trying to use the dvi output (without vga adaptor) on my mac. It >> > works well if (on the same screen) I use the vga adaptor, but when I use >> > a dvi cable (working on osx), it suddenly doesn't work anymore. Well, >> > Xorg detects it, and adjust the pseudo xinerama mode, but nothing is >> > displayed on it (as if the macintosh detected the screen but the screen >> > didn't detect the mac). >> > >> > Is anyone had made working the dvi output without vga adaptor ? >> >> The X.Org radeon driver doesn't support two digital displays at the same >> time yet, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3621 . > > There are ticks to make it work though. Jeremy Kerr collected some tips > at > > http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ > > The basic idea is to use a modified radeontool to whack the registers > that X isn't configuring properly. while we are at it, would it be possible to automagically detect 'hey it is monitory XY attached so I am switching to the right resolution' like osx does ? rationale, I regularly switch between two configurations, single laptop internal display + laptop with external display and am now getting annoyed by always having to xrandr -s 0 / xrandr -s1 ... Soeren -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub2 on powerpc
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 12:33:35PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 11:16:02AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > This is strange. I know one of the core grub2 maintainers is using > > > powerpc > > > regularly (with code from CVS). > > > > It certainly works--I've used it myself. But there is so much > > duplicated, common, code between the ports, it really is asking for > > splitting into separate arch-specific and generic parts, rather than > > duplicating the entirety for each port. > > > > > As for tools not in Debian, you mean ofpathname? > > > > Yes. > > > > > Is the grub2 debian package usable at all without ofpathname? (I > > > understand that at least grub-install won't work, making d-i support > > > impossible). > > > > It's just grub-install that breaks. Installing by hand works. > > Ah, good. Btw, anyone tried loading a 64bit kernel from 32bit grub2? If it > works, we could add ppc64 to the list (using biarch). As said, a year or two ago, i used grub2 to boot a dual power3 box, which is a powerpc 64bit machine. It worked just fine, especially since the default method for openfirmware bootloaders is to run as 32bit. I am not sure it makes sense to run them in 64bit mode, or even if it is supposed to work. All the documentation i have seen on this topic, even from IBM and others, show that the bootloader should be run in 32bit mode, and the kernel is launched from 32bit, and then sets up the 64bit stuff, so there should be no major difference with regard to grub2. Notice that here ppc64 is confusing, you probably speak about the one-man-show pure-64 thingy from Andreas Jochens, and not from the kernel arch ppc64. Notice that this is not and will never be an officially supported arch by debian, and despite me asking, Andreas Jochens has shown absolutely no interest to cooperate with the biarch or multi-arch effort, even though this won't happen anymore for etch anyway. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental
Hello Denis, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 is in experimental. > > This version will be pushed ustream, so please test it and report > problems. After that, we will discuss modifiers and default settings. > Thanks. The package works for me. But I miss the power key at the top of the keyboard. This is the power key: KeyPress event, serial 27, synthetic NO, window 0xc1, root 0x44, subw 0x0, time 3238923114, (485,311), root:(512,384), state 0x0, keycode 222 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False KeyRelease event, serial 30, synthetic NO, window 0xc1, root 0x44, subw 0x0, time 3238923263, (485,311), root:(512,384), state 0x0, keycode 222 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: And I found this messages on the console: The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: > Warning: Multiple names for keycode 182 > Using , ignoring > Warning: Key name assigned to multiple keys > Using 182, ignoring 118 > Warning: Multiple names for keycode 183 > Using , ignoring > Warning: Key name assigned to multiple keys > Using 183, ignoring 119 > Warning: Multiple names for keycode 184 > Using , ignoring > Warning: Key name assigned to multiple keys > Using 184, ignoring 120 > Warning: Multiple names for keycode 157 > Using , ignoring > Warning: Key name assigned to multiple keys > Using 157, ignoring 126 expected keysym, got XF86AudioEject: line 2244 of inet > Warning: Type "ONE_LEVEL" has 1 levels, but has 2 symbols > Ignoring extra symbols Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server Why is Fn+6 num_lock? Thanks for your effort, Jörg. -- Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything that can be added, but when there is no longer anything to take away. (Antoine de Saint-Exupery) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#382129: Is now a good time to revisit installer not booting on OldWorld PowerMac beige G3?
On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 10:34:37PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 03:35:17PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > > > On Sep 16, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > >On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:50:03AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > >>On Saturday 16 September 2006 09:09, Rick Thomas wrote: > > >>>Is there someone out there who will work with me to get a kernel > > >>>that > > >>>boots to run debian-installer on my beige G3 PowerMac (OldWorld) > > >>>machine? > > >> > > >>I'd like to see that happen. > > >> > > >>>If not, I think it may be time to withdraw OldWorld PowerMacs from > > >>>the list of hardware supported by the Debian Installer. > > >> > > >>Note that as I understand there are also problems booting the kernel > > >>outside the installer (i.e. just upgrading an installed system), this > > >>does not seem to be a Debian Installer issue, but rather a powerpc > > >>kernel > > >>or kernel configuration issue. > > > > > >Its actually a problem with the ramdisk generators and/or > > >bootloaders, not the > > >kernel proper. > > > > Actually, from the symptoms I'm seeing, it may not be getting far > > enough to encounter ramdisk problems. (Not to say there are no such > > ramdisk problems, just that what I'm seeing is not diagnostic for > > them.) I gave fairly detailed notes in the previous bug report, > > Bug#382129. Let me know if you want more information. > > > > If Sven is right, that leaves bootloaders. > > Are you using quik or bootx ? > > This patch : > > > http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=6cdd2bdfb9e2449f1c8a0f729cdf9cfd733dd63f > > [POWERPC] Fix BootX booting with an initrd > > The bootx_init.c trampoline didn't properly add the ramdisk to the > "reserve map" (list of reserved areas of memory), thus causing all sorts > of failures when using BootX with an initrd. Also fixes a possible > problem if the ramdisk is located before the device-tree passed by > BootX. > > Might be of interest to solve this problem, which is why i suggested trying > the latest 2.6.18-rc kernel before. Please try and provide feedback. Actually, there was a new patch needed for quik, thanks to Christian and Ben for investigating and fixing this. A kernel .deb including the fix is available at : http://people.debian.org/~luther/linux-image-2.6.18-rc7-powerpc_2.6.17+2.6.18-rc7-0experimental.1_powerpc.deb Please test it and provide feedback to see if it solves your issue. (not, that this is a second version, with benh's patch, instead of the first i uploaded yesterday with Christian's tentative patch, please make sure to test the new one (check the changelog to be sure :). Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: powerpc d-i daily ISOs are back and (almost) working
On Sep 16, 2006, at 3:16 AM, Frans Pop wrote: When I switched to the -F2 console, it give me an unexpected error message: Known issue. Fixed in rootskel 1.37. Any idea when that will make it into a daily businesscard iso? Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cacao not on powerpc
Hi, it seems that the changes towards cacao 0.96-2 broke the powerpc build. I guess the change is: Added --disable-disassembler to DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS. and because of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=375657 0.96.1 is unusable. Bernhard -- Managing Director - Owner, www.intevation.net (Free Software Company) Germany Coordinator, fsfeurope.org (Non-Profit Org for Free Software) www.kolab-konsortium.com (Email/Groupware Solution, Professional Service) pgpq2lmI00hWE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Firefox
Firefox 1.5.0.6-5 for PowerPC got uploaded yesterday so it's working again. Regards, Marko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#387903: [powerpc] bcm43xx module (802.11) wireless issues with 2.6.17-9 - iBook G4
On Sun, 2006-09-17 at 12:21 +0100, Mark Purcell wrote: > Package: linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc > Version: 2.6.17-9 > Severity: important > > Since upgrading to 2.6.17-9, running on an ibook G4 with the Broadcomm > 4318 wireless there are issues with the kernel supplied bcm43xx module. > > Reverting to 2.6.17-8 (from testing) and the bcm43xx module operates > as expected. > > The problems I am seeing with -9 include, not being able to associate > with an access point, or when I am associated the connection is > unreliable and drops out. > > bcm43xx is a new module in the kernel and I anticipate these are some > teething issues, but wanted to let people know which versions of the > kernel I have found to work. > > Can anyone else from debian-powerpc confirm or otherwise issues with > bcm43xx and 2.6.17-9 version of the kernel. > > I find that the 2.6.16 kernel support for the bcm43xx isn't great, but > did have success with 2.6.15 kernels and the no defunt bcm43xx-source > package. > > Mark > > 0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One > 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) >From my reading of the documentation and mailing list archives on http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/ , the 4318 is currently 'unsupported'. I certainly haven't got it to work at all with self-built 2.6.18-rc nor some version of linux-image-2.6.17-2-powerpc, although I hadn't tried hard with the latter. I'll try your workaround but am also open for any other suggestions. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Re: Is now a good time to revisit kernel booting on OldWorld PowerMac
--- Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 04:20:32PM -0700, brian > wrote: > > > > > > > > > hi, all > > > > > > i just got a later 2.6.18-rc7 experimental, of > > > september16, from link sven posted earlier last > > > week: > > > > > > http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ > > > > > > will try it tonight (unless advised otherwise) > > Please try : > > > http://people.debian.org/~luther/linux-image-2.6.18-rc7-powerpc_2.6.17+2.6.18-rc7-0experimental.1_powerpc.deb > > Or wait for tomorrows snapshot which include the > fix. this one boots my beige (G3 3/98 rev b, 192RAM, ... ) straight into sarge (ready for upgrade, i guess). i ran top and let it idle a few minutes and watched the buffer/cache go up. it wanted about 40 MB to idle and 80 more for the b/c. i started aptitude , it starts fast and took 8MB. so as far as i could tell w/out upgrading, it is fine. no help for the powerbook (603ev 2/97, 80RAM) though. hmmm. (i used the 3400 to make the ram disk and copied it over via applenet) mixed on this. i actually have a task for the beige i got last week, so something good there. still i find typing with the newer laptops very tough on my hands (old keyboard = much better ergonomics for me). brian __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems installing Debian for Powerpc on p690 Logical Partitions... Help!
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 10:37:23PM -0500, Cesar Delgado wrote: > Hi > > I'm in the process of installing and configuring Debian 3.1_r2 for Powerpc on > Logical Partitions of an IBM pSeries p690 (Power4 Processor) and one IBM > pSeries p570 (Power5 Processor). I have downloaded the DVD images from > Debian.org and tried to boot from these media without success. After some > reading we have found that using the boot command of Open Firmware we can > link the yaboot in /install dir inside the DVD: > > boot cdrom:,\install\yaboot > > when issuing this command looks like the yaboot sequuence cannot find the > yaboot.conf file, which in fact does not exist cause yaboot.con is the one in > the install dir. > > Have anyone installed Debian on such platform usign DVD and how ?? Our > customer network connections are not so good. Hello, Just wanted to inform you, not sure if this is of some interest, but i also do propose, in informal partnership with IBM france, paying debian support on Power hardware. This is done on a trouble ticket scheme, and will also include a biarch/multiarch setup for debian/etch once it is released, and will found my work on the debian/powerpc/64bit front. So, well, i am not sure if you are interested in this, and i have some doubts given that most people who chose debian chose it because of the good support and because they can fix some issues themselves too, so even if you are not interested in this, i would like to have some feedback as for the reasons of it. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: problem boot debian on powerbook g3 (pismo/firewire)
hello, very sorry you are having so much trouble, glad you are persistent, hope i have not made it any worse. here are things i have used in past with my pismo to reset: a) hold down the power key for about 30 seconds until you hear a long beep. b) press and hold the reset button on the back for (not sure exactly) about the same amount of time. c) restarting the computer, push down all the keys command-option-p-r, hold until you hear chime second time, this is called resetting pram. d) using a free software tool in os9 which also clears pram, called tech tool. although i don't recall having black screen with pismo i have had it with some older macs and it was the firmware settings corrupted, the other things i used there were "apple system disk" and "xpostfacto". i have not tried either of these with pismo, i cannot say if they would help or make things worse. they do work with os9. another thing to try is take out the battery, disconnect ac power and let it sit overnight (or longer). reset the date in mac os afterwards. you did check all those other things ? especially, mac os does mount the cd and you can go look, you see a folder with a mac icon on it that is meaning the cd is bootable ? (the buttons you see when you held down option key they are not to be trusted as OK for the cd). you have *some* bootable mac cd you test your cd, with it ? (like i said you should have one before you erase your disk...) to check your ram there was a utility on the mac on linux site, i am not sure it catches all problems but it might some. i believe that not all pc-100 ram is 100% compatible there ... other ideas i don't know really much about: your friend knows a lot about debian/linux, you might be able to get a network boot from his machine. --- Florian Znottka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Good morning! > I worked on this problem the hole weekend, so > it seems to be a problem with the powerbook itself, > because I used 5 different CD (3.0, 3.1, ubuntu, > etc.) > from a friend. He burned it with a plextor premium > - > so it can't be the fault of the cds. > > I don't know, what to do next! > > > black screen sounds funny, if you have still > > problem after trying all of the above, if it still > > does that you may have to reset the open firmware > > "screen" variable (like pcs bios, sort of). well > > others here can probably advise better than me, > > i never have had that problem ( i have some idea > > what to do but its your machine not mine ). but > the > > greatest chance it seems is you have a bad cd, > > somehow or other. > > > > After the boot from the cd there is everytime a > blank screen. > can somebody help? > > Thanks a lot > > Florian Znottka > > _ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems installing Debian for Powerpc on p690 Logical Partitions... Help!
On Sun, Sep 17, 2006 at 10:37:23PM -0500, Cesar Delgado wrote: > Hi > > I'm in the process of installing and configuring Debian 3.1_r2 for Powerpc on > Logical Partitions of an IBM pSeries p690 (Power4 Processor) and one IBM > pSeries p570 (Power5 Processor). I have downloaded the DVD images from > Debian.org and tried to boot from these media without success. After some > reading we have found that using the boot command of Open Firmware we can > link the yaboot in /install dir inside the DVD: > > boot cdrom:,\install\yaboot > > when issuing this command looks like the yaboot sequuence cannot find the > yaboot.conf file, which in fact does not exist cause yaboot.con is the one in > the install dir. > > Have anyone installed Debian on such platform usign DVD and how ?? Our > customer network connections are not so good. I installed on no-vios p505 recently, and will soon do once i get the hang of the vios thingy. There is a copy of the yaboot.conf file in /etc, which is the one used on IBM hardware, please check that this is indeed the case. Also, notice that debian/sarge doesn't support this kind of hardware very well, and it is recomended you use the etch beta or daily builds, i myself used an etch daily build for the installation : http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta3/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox
brian wrote: > it w/ dpkg --install opera*.deb is all it takes. > ibook:~# apt-get install -t unstable firefox works LB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
