Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 21:12 +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> 
> - The output is cloned to the external output (this is what I want), but
>   the resolution is not adaptad to the capabilities of the beamer. Older
>   versions of the ati driver did automatically lower the resolution.

If you mean that the resolution of the internal LCD was limited to the
resolution of the external display, that was a bug. :)

This driver allows you to change the output configurations on the fly
with xrandr.


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missing images at ebay

2007-08-30 Thread brian
Hi

does anyone know why I might not see images on ebay ?

am i missing some package maybe. 

also, is anyone running the current ibm java ? I
downloaded it but have not installed it. it says
redhat and suse enterprise server are supported.
this may not be the latest version i got an update
notice the next week after I downloaded it.

does ebay depend on java ?

I don't care really to deal with java right now
except that ibm had some tools to download that 
might give me some ideas and they are written in it.

also it is not clear on the novelle page whether
SEL is really useable on ppc. it appears to 
be an "windows alternative" which is not me at all.
I would rather stick with Debian IF the peace between
intel and alternatives can be maintained. otherwise,
Lubuntu is an option (I just made up that name).

Brian





  

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Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread Jimmy Johnson
Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>   
>> So if someone would let us understand why Sven was banned in the
>> first place, then may be this whole sad affair can be brought to
>> some kind of closure.
>> 
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2007/08/msg00115.html is the
> warning which was sent from listmaster to Sven; for failing to heed it
> the ban was reinstated.
>
>   

Don, that post has nothing to do with why Sven was banned in the "first
place", I'm talking about last year.

As far as  I know Debian PPC Users are being hurt by the decision to ban
Sven and I want to know why? Please.

> If you wish to complain about the ban, e-mailing
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the appropriate response, not mailing
> this list.
>   

I'm not complaining about the ban, I want to know why Sven has been
banned and I'm not talking about him being banned from this list, it
seems to me that Sven has been banned as a Developer too and I want to
know why?

> Don Armstrong
> [Further responses off list]
>   

The last time I checked I was living in a "Free World".

If you don't know why Sven was banned don't respond and don't be trying
to blow smoke up my ass, that only makes me suspicious of you motive.

Oh, and Don I sincerely thank you for all the good work you have done
for Debian. :-)

This is being signed by a Debian PPC User, Tester and a 5+ year Linux
Advocate.

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Keymaps

2007-08-30 Thread Børge Holen
Is there any work being done to figure out how to assemble different 
keymappings for different countries and keyboards or is it more one on one?


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Re: Sleep problems with kernels >= 2.6.21 on powerpc

2007-08-30 Thread Tim Teulings

Hello!

I don't have traces at hand and due to lack of time cannot reproduce it 
up to tomorrow. However this hint may speed up your analysis!


Sorry for the delay, but my desktop PC had an urgent hard disk problem I 
had to fix ASASP.


So here is the output from dmesg that suggested to me that firewire 
might be a problem:



usb_endpoint usbdev2.2_ep81: PM: suspend 0->2, parent 2-1:1.0 already 2
usb_device usbdev1.1: PM: suspend 0->2, parent usb1 already 2
usb_endpoint usbdev1.1_ep81: PM: suspend 0->2, parent 1-0:1.0 already 2
hub 1-0:1.0: PM: suspend 2->2, parent usb1 already 2
usb_endpoint usbdev1.1_ep00: PM: suspend 0->2, parent usb1 already 2
eth2: Airport entering sleep mode
eth0: suspending, WakeOnLan disabled
pci_set_power_state(): 0002:20:0e.0: state=3, current state=5
firewire_ohci: pci_set_power_state failed with -22<3>pci_device_suspend(): 
pci_suspend+0x0/0x9c [firewire_ohci]() returns -22
suspend_device(): pci_device_suspend+0x0/0x98() returns -22
Could not suspend device 0002:20:0e.0: error -22
eth0: resuming
PHY ID: 4061e4, addr: 0
eth2: Airport waking up
eth2: New link status: Connected (0001)
hda: Enabling Ultra DMA 2
eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full-duplex.
eth0: Pause is disabled
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
hdb: Enabling Ultra DMA 2
usb_endpoint usbdev1.1_ep00: PM: resume from 0, parent usb1 still 2
usb_endpoint usbdev1.1_ep81: PM: resume from 0, parent 1-0:1.0 still 2
usb_device usbdev1.1: PM: resume from 0, parent usb1 still 2
Driver sleep failed
Sleep rejected by devices
adb: starting probe task...
adb devices: [2]: 2 c4 [3]: 3 1 [7]: 7 1f
ADB keyboard at 2, handler 1
ADB mouse at 3, handler set to 4 (trackpad)
adb: finished probe task...
usb_device usbdev1.1: PM: suspend 0->2, parent usb1 already 2
usb_endpoint usbdev1.1_ep81: PM: suspend 0->2, parent 1-0:1.0 already 2
hub 1-0:1.0: PM: suspend 2->2, parent usb1 already 2
usb_endpoint usbdev1.1_ep00: PM: suspend 0->2, parent usb1 already 2
eth2: Airport entering sleep mode
eth0: suspending, WakeOnLan disabled
Trying to free already-free IRQ 40
pci_set_power_state(): 0002:20:0e.0: state=3, current state=5
firewire_ohci: pci_set_power_state failed with -22<3>pci_device_suspend(): 
pci_suspend+0x0/0x9c [firewire_ohci]() returns -22
suspend_device(): pci_device_suspend+0x0/0x98() returns -22
Could not suspend device 0002:20:0e.0: error -22
eth0: resuming
PHY ID: 4061e4, addr: 0
eth2: Airport waking up
eth2: New link status: Connected (0001)
hda: Enabling Ultra DMA 2
hdb: Enabling Ultra DMA 2
eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full-duplex.
eth0: Pause is disabled


The problem wa sinitiated by closing the lid. The iBook then seems to 
permanetly try to go to sleep (I can hear the cd-rom drive get 
periodically initialized). So above contains more than one iteration.


The kernel is:

Linux kismet 2.6.22-1-powerpc #1 Sun Jul 29 13:58:06 CEST 2007 ppc GNU/Linux


The relveant debian package:

linux-image-2.6.22-1-powerpc_2.6.22-3_powerpc.deb


I'm running a mixture of debian testing/unstable.

The firewire and the USB connector were unused, the network connector 
was used.


If there are questions regarding other packages, or somebody wants me to 
test a fix (I would prever a debian package), don't hesitate - I would 
like to get the bug fixed :-)


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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Alex Deucher
On 8/30/07, Gaudenz Steinlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 11:36:10PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code
> > in that ati git tree.  I recently added connector table and quirk
> > information for mac laptops.  You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a
> > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test.
> >
> > As far as I can tell there are three apple laptop variants:
> >
> > ibook  - LVDS, TVDAC drives TV or VGA via dongle
> > powerbook-duallink   - LVDS, TV, External TMDS/Primary DAC
> > powerbook   - LVDS, TV, Internal TMDS/Primary DAC
> >
> > To test, add:
> >
> > Option "MacModel" ""
> >
> > to the device section of your xorg config where  is one of the
> > following:
> > ibook
> > powerbook-duallink
> > powerbook
> >
> > powerbook-duallink indicates that it is one of the laptops that has
> > dual link DVI rather than single link.  We can't yet init the external
> > dual link TMDS directly, but if OF inits it, it should work.  I'm also
> > not sure about some of the pll quirks for ibooks. those may not be
> > needed in all cases.
> >
> > Please test and let me know how it goes, as I don't have any macs and
> > we may need additional quirks or finer grained model info.  Also, make
> > sure I'm cc'ed as I'm not on this list.
>
> I compiled the latest git version against the packages in Debian
> unstable, added powerbook-duallink (I hope this is correct for my
> PowerBook5,8). Attached the VGA Input of an old beamer via the DVI to
> VGA converter. I attached my xorg.conf and X Server log. The result is
> mixed:
> - The internal LCD works as before.
> - The output is cloned to the external output (this is what I want), but
>   the resolution is not adaptad to the capabilities of the beamer. Older
>   versions of the ati driver did automatically lower the resolution.
>
> I don't know if this is an issue with my xorg.conf or a bug in the
> driver.
>

I'm not quite sure I understand what you are getting at.  which
resolution is not adapted to what?  the laptop panel?  the beamer?  As
far as I can tell, it seems to be doing the right thing.  Right now
the driver defaults each output to it's preferred mode (based on edid
from the monitor):

(II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1440x960
(II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 using initial mode 1024x768

what do you want to happen?  if you'd rather have then both at one
resolution, you can use xrandr to change the mode on either or both
heads.

Alex


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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread GALLIEN Matthieu
Le jeudi 30 août 2007, Yves-Alexis Perez a écrit :
> On jeu, 2007-08-30 at 21:01 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > I've successfully built the driver and tried it. xrandr recognises it,
> > and it detects correctly my output monitor, I can switch it on/off
> > with
> > xrandr --auto, and it works as "cloned". I don't seem to be able to
> > move
> > it to right (or left) using --right-of:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]: xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS
> > xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2304x854)

There is a maximum virtual size for the frame buffer.
You can adjust it in the xorg.conf by putting a

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "Generic Video Card"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1024x768"
Virtual 2304 854
EndSubSection
EndSection

for your needs, this should be ok

PS : correct me if I am wrong

> >
> > Any advice?
>
> And each time I start X I need to run xrandr --dpi 101 to adjust dpi
> settings because by default it's set to 75:
>
> (==) RADEON(0): X server will not keep DPI constant for all screen sizes
> …
> (II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 disconnected
> (II) RADEON(0): EDID for output DVI-0
> (II) RADEON(0): Output S-video disconnected
> (II) RADEON(0): EDID for output S-video
> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected
> (II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 disconnected
> (II) RADEON(0): Output S-video disconnected
> (II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x854
> after xf86InitialConfiguration
> (==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (75, 75)
>
> OTH
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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Alex Deucher
On 8/30/07, Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On mer, 2007-08-29 at 23:36 -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code
> > in that ati git tree.  I recently added connector table and quirk
> > information for mac laptops.  You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a
> > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test.
> >
> > As far as I can tell there are three apple laptop variants:
> >
> > ibook  - LVDS, TVDAC drives TV or VGA via
> > dongle
> > powerbook-duallink   - LVDS, TV, External TMDS/Primary DAC
> > powerbook   - LVDS, TV, Internal TMDS/Primary DAC
> >
> > To test, add:
> >
> > Option "MacModel" ""
> >
> > to the device section of your xorg config where  is one of the
> > following:
> > ibook
> > powerbook-duallink
> > powerbook
>
> I've successfully built the driver and tried it. xrandr recognises it,
> and it detects correctly my output monitor, I can switch it on/off with
> xrandr --auto, and it works as "cloned". I don't seem to be able to move
> it to right (or left) using --right-of:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS
> xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2304x854)
>
> Any advice?
>

you need to add a virtual line to the screen section of your config:
Virtual 2304 854
Also, if you are using a r100 or r200 variant, you'll need to disable
colortiling if the size of your desktop exceeds 2048 in either
dimension.
Option "colortiling" "false"

Eventually, when the memory management stuff lands, this sort of thing
will go away, but for now we have to pre-allocate the max size you may
want for your desktop.

Alex


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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On jeu, 2007-08-30 at 21:01 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> I've successfully built the driver and tried it. xrandr recognises it,
> and it detects correctly my output monitor, I can switch it on/off
> with
> xrandr --auto, and it works as "cloned". I don't seem to be able to
> move
> it to right (or left) using --right-of:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]: xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS
> xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2304x854)
> 
> Any advice?

And each time I start X I need to run xrandr --dpi 101 to adjust dpi
settings because by default it's set to 75:

(==) RADEON(0): X server will not keep DPI constant for all screen sizes
…
(II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 disconnected
(II) RADEON(0): EDID for output DVI-0
(II) RADEON(0): Output S-video disconnected
(II) RADEON(0): EDID for output S-video
(II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS connected
(II) RADEON(0): Output DVI-0 disconnected
(II) RADEON(0): Output S-video disconnected
(II) RADEON(0): Output LVDS using initial mode 1280x854
after xf86InitialConfiguration
(==) RADEON(0): DPI set to (75, 75)

OTH
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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer, 2007-08-29 at 23:36 -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code
> in that ati git tree.  I recently added connector table and quirk
> information for mac laptops.  You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a
> recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test.
> 
> As far as I can tell there are three apple laptop variants:
> 
> ibook  - LVDS, TVDAC drives TV or VGA via
> dongle
> powerbook-duallink   - LVDS, TV, External TMDS/Primary DAC
> powerbook   - LVDS, TV, Internal TMDS/Primary DAC
> 
> To test, add:
> 
> Option "MacModel" ""
> 
> to the device section of your xorg config where  is one of the
> following:
> ibook
> powerbook-duallink
> powerbook 

I've successfully built the driver and tried it. xrandr recognises it,
and it detects correctly my output monitor, I can switch it on/off with
xrandr --auto, and it works as "cloned". I don't seem to be able to move
it to right (or left) using --right-of:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1024x768 --right-of LVDS
xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1280x1280 (desired size 2304x854)

Any advice?

Regards,
-- 
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Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> So if someone would let us understand why Sven was banned in the
> first place, then may be this whole sad affair can be brought to
> some kind of closure.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2007/08/msg00115.html is the
warning which was sent from listmaster to Sven; for failing to heed it
the ban was reinstated.

If you wish to complain about the ban, e-mailing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the appropriate response, not mailing
this list.


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Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread Jimmy Johnson

Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:

I object! Please don't lift the ban. After lifting the ban Sven has
clearly shown, that "he did not understand why he was banned" from the
list and that he is not willing to change his behaviour.

Gaudenz
  



That's just it!

Even before Sven was banned in the first place, Sven apologized and
people that where on his team working with Sven asked that he would not
be banned because they had no problem working with Sven and that he was
an important part of the PPC team, yet he was banned for no given
reason, only that he pissed someone off.

So if someone would let us understand why Sven was banned in the first
place, then may be this whole sad affair can be brought to some kind of
closure.

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Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi

On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 08:53:36PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 01:09:33PM +0200, xavier grave a écrit :
> > Le jeudi 30 août 2007 à 12:37 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit :
> > > 
> > > Note that i seem to be banned again from the debian-powerpc mailing
> > > list
> 
> Hello listmasters,
> 
> A few weeks ago the subscribers of debian-powerpc have been asked wether
> they would like the ban of Sven Luther to be lifted and the answer was
> yes. I can not speak for the others, but on the other hand, nobody
> retracted his support to his comeback, so could you consier lifiting his
> ban again ?

I object! Please don't lift the ban. After lifting the ban Sven has
clearly shown, that he did not understand why he was banned from the
list and that he is not willing to change his behaviour.

Gaudenz

> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [Sven Ban] Is Sven still under ban on the debian-powerpc list ?

2007-08-30 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 11:24 -0400, Jean Robertson wrote:
> Please explain the "obvious reasons"

That's exactly the problem. And Frans Pop has made me see this also.
People not used to his usual behavior, usually tend to not care about he
harming the project, or simply doesn't know the long story behind
discussions.

That's the difference between DDs with "obvious reasons" and people who
don't get "reasons".

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Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 17:55 +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > More people and DDs privately asked listmasters to place the ban again,
> 
> We won't hide problems, does this remember you something ?

Yes, it does.

> > than the users asking for the ban to be lifted. The ban will remain in
> > place. Common sense is being used.
> 
> And who are those people who asked, are they really the users of this
> list, or just assorted bystanders who don't do their debian duties and
> help the powerpc port ? 

DDs who are tired of this senseless thing and who prefer to talk
directly to us than bringing more useless discussions (as it has been
proved to be in the last years) to mailing lists.

> We make free software and our users our prioritym does this remember you
> something ?

Use common sense and take your dog out for a walk.

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Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 20:53 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> nobody retracted his support to his comeback 

How are you so sure about that?

More people and DDs privately asked listmasters to place the ban again,
than the users asking for the ban to be lifted. The ban will remain in
place. Common sense is being used.

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Re: [Sven Ban] Is Sven still under ban on the debian-powerpc list ?

2007-08-30 Thread Jean Robertson
On Thursday 30 August 2007 11:13, Roger Leigh wrote:
> xavier grave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I would like to know if Sven Luther is still banned from debian-powerpc
> > list ?
>
> Yes.  The ban has been reinstated by the listmasters, for obvious
> reasons.

Please explain the "obvious reasons"

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Re: [Sven Ban] Is Sven still under ban on the debian-powerpc list ?

2007-08-30 Thread Roger Leigh
xavier grave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to know if Sven Luther is still banned from debian-powerpc
> list ?

Yes.  The ban has been reinstated by the listmasters, for obvious
reasons.


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Re: Where to put tip to fix very jerky mouse on iBook G3?

2007-08-30 Thread Jarrod

David Moreno Garza wrote:

On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 21:12 -0700, Jarrod O'Flaherty wrote:
  

3. I'd like to know where to put my solution for others to find (and
find easily! ;). 



What about somewhere within wiki.debian.org?

  

Thanks! Looks like a good spot.

Also, does anyone happen to know how I can make my fix
(ie. disable the frequency scaling) permanent across
boot ups?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Jarrod.


Re: Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread Greg Trigg

Charles Plessy wrote:


Le Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 01:09:33PM +0200, xavier grave a écrit :
 


Le jeudi 30 août 2007 à 12:37 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit :
   


Note that i seem to be banned again from the debian-powerpc mailing
list
 



Hello listmasters,

A few weeks ago the subscribers of debian-powerpc have been asked wether
they would like the ban of Sven Luther to be lifted and the answer was
yes. I can not speak for the others, but on the other hand, nobody
retracted his support to his comeback, so could you consier lifiting his
ban again ?

Many thanks,
 

I second that.  I think that the good out weighs any negatives on the 
powerpc list.  I was for the first ban to be ended and I haven't seen 
anything posted on the powerpc list to change my mind about it.  If he's 
not able to post to the list, I'll probably just unsubscribe.  This list 
is no help to me if valuable contributers are not allowed to post.


Greg


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Re: [Sven Ban] Is Sven still under ban on the debian-powerpc list ?

2007-08-30 Thread Helmut H. Franke
xavier grave schrieb am Donnerstag, 30. August 2007 um 14:33:15 +0200:
|I would like to know if Sven Luther is still banned from debian-powerpc
|list ?
|
|If so, can you remove this ban ?
[...]
I fully agree.


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[Sven Ban] Is Sven still under ban on the debian-powerpc list ?

2007-08-30 Thread xavier grave
Hi,

I would like to know if Sven Luther is still banned from debian-powerpc
list ?

If so, can you remove this ban ?

I think (from a technical point of view) Sven should be able to post on
this list because at least he gives very valuable advices and have a
very good knowledge of powerpc hardware (as far as I can understand).

If the ban is due to Sven not able to avoid merging his technical posts
with some information about his ban and so on ? If so people from the
debian-powerpc list should be asked (IMHO) by vote if they want Sven
banned or not perhaps before any ban put on him ?

xavier
PS: sorry for my poor English language level, it gives me some problem
to explain what I really think


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Please unban S. Luther from debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org

2007-08-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 01:09:33PM +0200, xavier grave a écrit :
> Le jeudi 30 août 2007 à 12:37 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit :
> > 
> > Note that i seem to be banned again from the debian-powerpc mailing
> > list

Hello listmasters,

A few weeks ago the subscribers of debian-powerpc have been asked wether
they would like the ban of Sven Luther to be lifted and the answer was
yes. I can not speak for the others, but on the other hand, nobody
retracted his support to his comeback, so could you consier lifiting his
ban again ?

Many thanks,

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Re: network problem on openpower710

2007-08-30 Thread xavier grave
Thanks for your quick answer Sven.
I'll try this as soon as possible.

Perhaps there is a problem of compatibility with the firmware version ?
This is the only difference with before the hardware problems.

Le jeudi 30 août 2007 à 12:37 +0200, Sven Luther a écrit :
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at 10:20:38AM +0200, xavier grave wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a openpower710 running Debian. It had hardware problem.
> > This has been fixed. Now I have a kernel that can boot, but the network
> > interface won't work :
> > Configuring network interfaces...SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> > eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> > SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
> > SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
> > eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> > eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> > Failed to bring up eth0.
> > SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> > eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> > SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
> > SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
> > eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> > eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> > Failed to bring up eth1.
> > done.
> > 
> > kernel versions tested :
> > 2.6.21-1-powerpc64
> > and
> > 2.6.18-4-powerpc64
> > 
> > kernel messages concerning eth interfaces :
> > Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.20-k2-NAPI
> > Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation.
> > PCI: Enabling device: (:c0:01.0), cmd 3
> > e1000: :c0:01.0: e1000_probe: (PCI-X:133MHz:64-bit)
> > 00:0d:60:de:b5:78
> > SCSI subsystem initialized
> > libata version 2.20 loaded.
> > ipr: IBM Power RAID SCSI Device Driver version: 2.3.1 (January 23, 2007)
> > e1000: eth0: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection
> > PCI: Enabling device: (:c0:01.1), cmd 3
> > e1000: :c0:01.1: e1000_probe: (PCI-X:133MHz:64-bit)
> > 00:0d:60:de:b5:79
> > e1000: eth1: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection
> > 
> > the network interfaces can be seen with lspci :
> > :c0:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit
> > Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 01)
> > :c0:01.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit
> > Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 01)
> > 
> > I have also use the SMS ping utility with success.
> > 
> > Does anybody have an idea ?
> 
> Please try the sid 2.6.22 kernel too, or the daily build experimental
> snapshots from 2.6.23-rc from :
> 
> 
>deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel 
> {etch-security,etch,sid,trunk} main 
> 
> This would probably warrant a proper bug report against the linux-2.6
> kernel package, with [powerpc64] in the bug report subject.
> 
> Note that i seem to be banned again from the debian-powerpc mailing
> list, without warning or information, in total disrespect of freedom of
> speach or the debian social contract, so maybe you could bounce this
> email to the list ?
> 
> Friendly,
> 
> Sven Luther


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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread GALLIEN Matthieu
Le jeudi 30 août 2007, Michel Dänzer a écrit :
> On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 10:45 +0200, GALLIEN Matthieu wrote:
> > (EE) RADEON(0): Invalid ConnectorTable option: ibook
>
> Update from GIT again, I just pushed a fix for this.

Thanks
it works now.
Still I have to do more intensive test (but I have not enough time right now).

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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 10:45 +0200, GALLIEN Matthieu wrote:
> 
> (EE) RADEON(0): Invalid ConnectorTable option: ibook

Update from GIT again, I just pushed a fix for this.


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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread GALLIEN Matthieu
Le jeudi 30 août 2007, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit :
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 11:36:10PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> > Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code
> > in that ati git tree.  I recently added connector table and quirk
> > information for mac laptops.  You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a
> > recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test.
>
>  I have a PowerBook G4 with an RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] card -
> propably that will work for a test?  Though, I would need a bit more of
> a guide on how to go on from there:
>
>  I have xorg 1.3, xrandr 1.2.1 (1.2.2 isn't available yet in the Debian
> pool, though I might build a local test package if really needed) - just
> don't know how to go on with the git tree and stuff.  :)
>
>  So, if I can switch you -v in that respect you can count on me help you
> testing it.  Especially since I'm interested in being able to use a dual
> screen setup.  Yes, I know that it should be possible already, but if I
> help you testing you can help me configuring it, I guess.  ;)
>
>  So long,
> Rhonda

Hello

you can grab the source tree of the driver by doing

git clone git://git.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati

after to get the update, tou can do git pull

I have tried to test the driver on an iBook. Unfortunately I got the error 
that the connection table for ibook is unknown.
I have put

Option  "MacModel"  "ibook"

in my xorg.conf
the error was exactly :
(EE) RADEON(0): Invalid ConnectorTable option: ibook

Did I miss something ?
I have compiled the driver with at least commit 
12187a6aa93049c002a4171344d03c713f7f3c5d

How can I check that the compiled driver has the ConnectorTable built in ?

thanks for your work
and thanks in advance for any help

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Re: missing security updates for powerpc

2007-08-30 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi!

 For your informations:
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gpg: BAD signature from "Simon Valiquette (Gulus) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 11:15:38PM -0400, Simon Valiquette wrote:
>On security.debian.org, there is no security update available for
> dovecot-common, postfix-policyd and rsync.

 I see that postfix-policyd is missing but I can't agree for dovecot and
rsync.  Seems to be a quite recent upload for dovecot at least because
when I first read your mail and looked I did see the missing dovecot.

 I am willing to prepare a postfix-plicyd stable rebuild, if it isn't
appearing on the security server within the next some hours.

>I would like to know who is responsible for the powerpc security
> build, and makes sure he/she knows about the problem (and ideally
> heard a bit about what happened).

 That's rather something you'll have to ask the DSA and/or security team
and not on a porter's list. :)

>For those that don't want to wait for the upgrade, here the
> simple procedure:
> 
> sudo apt-get -Vu build-dep rsync
> sudo apt-get -Vu source --compile rsync
> dpkg -i rsync_2.6.9-2etch1_powerpc.deb

 Building on your host system might give you a bit more of worries at
times, especially if you have installed backports or unofficial
packages.  I sugguest to build in a clean chroot, like with cowbuilder
(cowdancer package) or pbuilder.

 So long,
Rhonda


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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Thu, 2007-08-30 at 10:05 +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> 
>  I have xorg 1.3, xrandr 1.2.1 (1.2.2 isn't available yet in the Debian
> pool, though I might build a local test package if really needed) [...]

xrandr 1.2.2 is available in x11-xserver-utils in experimental.


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Re: radeon driver updates for mac laptops

2007-08-30 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 11:36:10PM -0400, Alex Deucher wrote:
> Those of you with radeon based mac laptops please test the latest code
> in that ati git tree.  I recently added connector table and quirk
> information for mac laptops.  You will need at least xserver 1.3 and a
> recent version of xrandr (1.2.2 preferred) to test.

 I have a PowerBook G4 with an RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] card -
propably that will work for a test?  Though, I would need a bit more of
a guide on how to go on from there:

 I have xorg 1.3, xrandr 1.2.1 (1.2.2 isn't available yet in the Debian
pool, though I might build a local test package if really needed) - just
don't know how to go on with the git tree and stuff.  :)

 So, if I can switch you -v in that respect you can count on me help you
testing it.  Especially since I'm interested in being able to use a dual
screen setup.  Yes, I know that it should be possible already, but if I
help you testing you can help me configuring it, I guess.  ;)

 So long,
Rhonda


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network problem on openpower710

2007-08-30 Thread xavier grave
Hi,

I have a openpower710 running Debian. It had hardware problem.
This has been fixed. Now I have a kernel that can boot, but the network
interface won't work :
Configuring network interfaces...SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
Failed to bring up eth0.
SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device
SIOCSIFBRDADDR: No such device
eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
Failed to bring up eth1.
done.

kernel versions tested :
2.6.21-1-powerpc64
and
2.6.18-4-powerpc64

kernel messages concerning eth interfaces :
Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - version 7.3.20-k2-NAPI
Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Intel Corporation.
PCI: Enabling device: (:c0:01.0), cmd 3
e1000: :c0:01.0: e1000_probe: (PCI-X:133MHz:64-bit)
00:0d:60:de:b5:78
SCSI subsystem initialized
libata version 2.20 loaded.
ipr: IBM Power RAID SCSI Device Driver version: 2.3.1 (January 23, 2007)
e1000: eth0: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection
PCI: Enabling device: (:c0:01.1), cmd 3
e1000: :c0:01.1: e1000_probe: (PCI-X:133MHz:64-bit)
00:0d:60:de:b5:79
e1000: eth1: e1000_probe: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection

the network interfaces can be seen with lspci :
:c0:01.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit
Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 01)
:c0:01.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82546EB Gigabit
Ethernet Controller (Copper) (rev 01)

I have also use the SMS ping utility with success.

Does anybody have an idea ?

Thanks in advance, xavier


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