no joy with cdparanoia on dual usb ibook

2007-11-24 Thread Sean Perry
It says CDROM reporting illegal table of contents. Yet cdir -n and 
cd-discid work just fine.


Here is the full output:
cdparanoia -d /dev/hdb -vsQ
cdparanoia III release 10pre0 (August 29, 2006)
(C) 2006 Monty [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Xiph.Org

FreeBSD porting (c) 2003
Simon 'corecode' Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Report bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xiph.org/paranoia/

Checking /dev/hdb for cdrom...
Testing /dev/hdb for SCSI/MMC interface
SG_IO device: /dev/hdb

CDROM model sensed sensed: LG CD-ROM CRN-8245B AHTA

Checking for SCSI emulation...
Drive is ATAPI (using SG_IO host adaptor emulation)

Checking for MMC style command set...
Drive is MMC style
DMA scatter/gather table entries: 1
table entry size: 131072 bytes
maximum theoretical transfer: 55 sectors
Setting default read size to 13 sectors (30576 bytes).

Verifying CDDA command set...
Expected command set reads OK.
009: CDROM reporting illegal table of contents

Unable to open disc.


And here is the strace output:
open(/dev/hdb, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 3
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aae8) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)
close(3)= 0
open(/dev/hdb, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK) = 3
dup(3)  = 4
ioctl(3, CDROMAUDIOBUFSIZ or SCSI_IOCTL_GET_IDLUN, 0x7f93ab1c) = 0
ioctl(3, SCSI_IOCTL_GET_BUS_NUMBER, 0x7f93ab18) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93a9f0) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_EMULATED_HOST, 0x7f93ac38)  = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aad0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, SG_IO, 0x7f93aaa0) = 0
ioctl(3, CDROMMULTISESSION, 0x7f93ab88) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, SG_SET_RESERVED_SIZE, 0x7f93ac3c) = 0
ioctl(4, 

Re: getting wireless and dvi out (clone mode) to work on iBook G4 - help needed, plz

2007-11-24 Thread P Kapat
Hi,

I have been playing around with my iBook G4, and here is the report:

On 21 Nov 2007 20:39:43 GMT, Jack Malmostoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Honestly, I'd go for Unstable:

 1) You get Xorg 1.4 with Xrandr 1.2 support and the latest and greatest ati 
 driver
 2) You get the latest kernel and possibly the latest bcm43xx driver
 3) Regressions have been reported about sleep, but 2.6.22 should be ok

Following Jack's advise I upgraded (dist-upgrade) to unstable - which
was not as smooth as I had expected, but that is beside the point now.
(may be i'll take it up in a new thread). As a consequence I have Xorg
7.3, Xrandr 1.2, bcm43xx-fwcutter 006.3, pbbuttonsd 0.7.9-2 - AND
finally some success.

I can access WEP and WPA PSK encrypted networks, I am yet to try WPA2
Enterprise. I can set the machine go to sleep using the power button
(due to pbbuttonsd?).

On Nov 22, 2007 6:52 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Attaching xorg.conf, working here on an alubook, and on a relatively fresh
 Debian unstable. The only problem I remember over the last time was a
 crash/machine-power-off, when I tried to put the machine to sleep via
 the powerbutton: In the meantime I believe that the reason for that
 that might be that pbbuttonsd perhaps wasn't up ... or something like
 that ...

@Wolfgang: thanks for the file,
but I couldn't see anything specific to a dual monitor setup (at least
in clone mode) in there. I think I did not make my self clear - I was
(and still am) looking for a xorg.conf with working-dual-display
settings in it. But none-the-less your file was a good starting point.
I added the mergedFB recomendations from Javier's (Orlando?) link
http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ to have two sections each for
Device, Monitor and Screen.

The DVI - VGA out display is not entirely satsifactory. The image
that I see on the external moonitor is extremely low on contrast and
the colors are completely screwed. Anyting bold is nicely visible but
the rest are all hazy, black is gray, none of the background colors
(desktop/webpages) are displayed, anything in light colors is
invisible. Even opensuse 10.3 had this problem too - which leads me to
think that, this is specific to my hardware. Can any provide any tips
on improvment? Let me know which kind of information will be helpful
(xorg.conf / Xorg.log /...).

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Re: Hotplugging: VGA to alubook 5,8 [was: Re: getting wireless and dvi out [ ... ]]

2007-11-24 Thread Michel Dänzer

On Sat, 2007-11-24 at 02:47 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 
 On Fri, Nov 23 2007, at 18:58 +0100, Bin Zhang wrote:
  On Nov 23, 2007 2:54 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Fri, Nov 23 2007, at 14:49 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
  
Sidenotes:
   
Since installing the new driver some artifacts are visible around the
mouse-pointer in its default arrow image ...  Please let me know if
  
   This last line should have been saying:
   mouse-pointer on X in its default arrow image [ ... ]
  
  
a photo from that might help ...
   
And the mouse is completely gone on the console .. haven't had time,
yet, to google/explore that ...
  
  Try adding a line
  Option  SWcursor on
  in Section Device of your xorg.conf.

That's a rather heavy-handed workaround - in particular, the SW cursor
interacts badly with 3D acceleration and XVideo.

 The problem seems being gone for the moment, without having changed
 xorg.conf here ...

Only legacy two-colour cursors are affected, not modern 32 bit ARGB
cursors.


 S-video unknown connection 800x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y 
 axis
 ) 0mm x 0mm
800x60060.3* 
 
 ## Note: There was no S-video connection that I knew about

It can't be detected reliably, hence 'unknown connection'.

 $ xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto
 xrandr: cannot find crtc for output DVI-0

This is probably related to S-video, try something like

xrandr --output S-video --off --output DVI-0 --auto

If you think this could be handled better, please bring it up on the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list.


 And this: I saw this
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11796
 This was the main reason I compiled the fresh xf86-video-ati sources:
 I thought the patch mentioned on this page would solve the scrambled
 mouse image on X: it didn't, IIRC ... 

Both the xserver and xf86-video-ati workaround hacks are needed.


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ppc installation issues...

2007-11-24 Thread P Kapat
Hi,

Here are some of the issues that I faced while installing and
upgrading debian on my iBook G4: (if I am writing to the wrong list,
please let me know)

$ cat /proc/cpu
processor   : 0
cpu : 7447A, altivec supported
clock   : 1199.999000MHz
revision: 0.2 (pvr 8003 0102)
bogomips: 73.47
timebase: 18432000
platform: PowerMac
machine : PowerBook6,5
motherboard : PowerBook6,5 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh
detected as : 287 (iBook G4)
pmac flags  : 001b
L2 cache: 512K unified
pmac-generation : NewWorld

1. KDE as a desktop while installing Etch - there is no option to
install KDE as the desktop manger, instead of Gnome. Surprisingly, at
the tasksel stage of the installation process (even in expert) mode
there is no mention that the Desktop environment is actually GNOME
and only GNOME!! Note that, I have tried the netinst, xfce-cd-1, and
kde-cd-1 discs from this page:
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r1/powerpc/iso-cd/ and each of
these installs Gnome (xfce does xfce though). More agonisingly, even
after adding task=standar, laptop, kde-desktop at the boot prompt of
the installer I end with a GNOME!! Why? What is the purpose of
*-kde-cd-1.iso? Why is there no simple option to choose between
Gnome/KDE at the tasksel stage?

OK, so even after repeated formats and installations, I end up with a
Gnome DM - fine, I'll change to kde later

2. I upgraded to unstable, using dist-upgrade, and the locale is
screwed To be fair to the Debian folks, I was surprised and
impressed to find that almost everything else worked fine, if not
better, after the dist-upgrade. Anyway as of now,  apt-get cmd gives
the a combination of the following two error:

perl warning: Please check that your locale settings
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = en_US
are installed on your system

==AND==

locale:cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: no such file or directory
locale:cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: no such file or directory
locale:cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: no such file or directory

As expected the locales package is broken... Is this the situation, or
is it because of my dist-upgrade? What is the fix?


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Re: getting wireless and dvi out (clone mode) to work on iBook G4 - help needed, plz

2007-11-24 Thread P Kapat
Hi,

On Nov 23, 2007 8:49 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hotplugging a VGA monitor to an alubook 5,8 with a fresh ati driver
 works ... minor mouse isues, as of yet, but working :) ... details
 below ..

I became a bit more adventurous and tried out the experimental ati
driver... Hotplugging a VGA monitor seems to work (on my iBook G4 -
powerbook 6,5) exactly as hotplugging should, that is without any
xrandr --output --DVI-0 --auto command - wow that is just insanely
cool The low contrast issue that I had mentioned in my earlier
mail, is almost solved now, I can see the light colors fine - but it
is still not pleasing...

 On Fri, Nov 23 2007, at 09:55 +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 
  On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 03:04 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
  
   What I know is, that with xrandr 1.2 hotplugging a 2nd monitor to a
   5.8 alubook doesn't do anything at all. Not out of the box, and not
   here on unstable Debian with packages from a few days ago and kernel
   2.6.18 ...

seems to do hotplugging on 2.6.22-3 that i got from unstable and
xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.7.196-1 from experimental. I am not sure if
the kernel plays any role at all...

  The kernel doesn't matter for this. With xserver-xorg-video-ati 6.7.19x
  (so far only available in experimental), external displays with a VGA
  connector should work with all Radeon {Power,i}Books. Displays with a
  DVI connector can be trickier; depending on the PowerBook model and
  driver version, Option MacModel powerbook or powerbook-duallink
  may help for those.

For the iBook, I am using Option MacModel  ibook ...

  Note that hotplugging a monitor per se isn't expected to have any direct
  effect; something like
 
  xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto

I don't actually need to do this, but if I do (note for my case: the
output is VGA-0 instead of DVI-0: xrandr --output VGA-0 --auto), I
get a higer resolution (1280x1024) external monitor display; where my
iBook's LCD is 1024x768 max. This projects the iBook's LCD screen to
the 1024x768 block on the upper-left corner of the 1280x1024 external
monitor - resulting in empty-but-accessable strips on the right and
bottoom edge of the external monitor. How do I get back to 1024x768
resolution on the external display?

 This is what it obviously does:
 --
 $ xrandr -q  ## MY OUTPUT:

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1200
LVDS connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
245mm x 184mm
   1024x768   60.0*+
   800x60060.3
   640x48059.9
VGA-0 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
axis) 376mm x 301mm
   1280x1024  60.0 +   75.0 59.9
   1280x960   59.9
   1152x864   75.0 74.8
   1024x768   75.1 70.1 60.0*
   832x62474.6
   800x60072.2 75.0 60.3 56.2
   640x48075.0 72.8 66.7 60.0
   720x40070.1
S-video disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

 --

 All I did - after installing xserver-xorg-video-ati_6.7.196-1 - was
 adding a single extra line to the xorg.conf that I attached to a
 message earlier in this thread:

thanks Wolfgang, I did the same, and your original xorg.conf file
worked nicely here.


  diff -u xorg.conf xorg.conf.07.11.23
 --- xorg.conf   2007-11-23 11:50:29.0 +0100
 +++ xorg.conf.07.11.23  2007-11-23 11:48:08.0 +0100
 @@ -96,7 +96,6 @@
 Identifier  ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]
 Driver  ati
 BusID   PCI:0:16:0
 -   Option  MacModel  powerbook
 Option  UseFBDev  true
  Option AGPSize 16
  Option AGPMode 4

 and restarting X.

As I mentioned -   Option  MacModel  iBook   -
instead of powerbook here.

 Oh yes: and
 xrandr --output DVI-0 --off
 switches the attached VGA off ... the alubook screen is shaking a bit
 for ~ half a sec, but it works.

i don't get any 'shakes' as such but it seems to 'refresh'. BTW, i do
get my bit of 'shake' for ~ 1 sec when ibook actually boots - artifact
of all debian installations on my machine, did not happen with
kubuntu/opensuse.

 Sidenotes:

 Since installing the new driver some artifacts are visible around the
 mouse-pointer in its default arrow image ...  Please let me know if
 a photo from that might help ...

for once, thankfully, i didn't see this issue on my end.

A load of warm greetings to all the coders on this.good work guys.

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Re: getting wireless and dvi out (clone mode) to work on iBook G4 - help needed, plz

2007-11-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sat, Nov 24 2007, at 03:20 -0500, P Kapat wrote:

 @Wolfgang: thanks for the file,
 but I couldn't see anything specific to a dual monitor setup (at least
 in clone mode) in there. I think I did not make my self clear - 

My bad: You clearly wrote of an xorg.conf for clone mode. Attached is
an xorg.conf I probably was using for display cloning for a few tests
last year. I hope it helps ... but no guarantees ... :)

As indicated earlier here: Please note that this cumbersome method
isn't needed anymore. With the fresh ati driver from experimental that
I mentioned in this thread display cloning should be much easier. And
if my lousy memory doesn't serve me too badly even the technical
advantages of the new driver supersede the old method via the attached
xorg.conf by far.

 I was (and still am) looking for a xorg.conf with
 working-dual-display settings in it. But none-the-less your file
 was a good starting point.  I added the mergedFB recomendations
 from Javier's (Orlando?) link http://ozlabs.org/~jk/docs/mergefb/ to
 have two sections each for Device, Monitor and Screen.
 
 The DVI - VGA out display is not entirely satsifactory. The image
 that I see on the external moonitor is extremely low on contrast and
 the colors are completely screwed. Anyting bold is nicely visible but
 the rest are all hazy, black is gray, none of the background colors
 (desktop/webpages) are displayed, anything in light colors is
 invisible. 

See? Does this seem to confirm what I said above on the new driver
superseding etc. etc. ... ?

As a sidenote - and please forgive me if you already know that - if
you run Debian testing/unstable/experimental and if you have some
second computer with Linux on it, I'd set up ssh for both machines: If
your unstable system crashes - which can happen, especially on X - in
many cases you might still be able to login to a it via ssh from a
second computer and shut it down cleanly ...
Such crashes do not happen too often on my system. But if it does I'm
always glad to have a second Linux machine for a little ssh walk on
the crashed computer .. :)


Good luck!
Best Regards

Wolfgang
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# xorg.conf.dpkg-new (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf.dpkg-new manual page.
# (Type man xorg.conf.dpkg-new at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following commands as root:
#
#   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dpkg-new /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dpkg-new.custom
#   md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf.dpkg-new 
/var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.dpkg-new.md5sum
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

Section Files

# see http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7:
# FontPath  unix/:7100# local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
#   FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1
#   FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/CID
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi:unscaled
FontPath/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi:unscaled
#   FontPath/usr/share/fonts/truetype
FontPath/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType
EndSection

Section Module
LoadGLcore
Loadi2c
Loadbitmap
Loaddbe
Loadddc
Loaddri
Loadextmod
Loadfreetype
Loadglx
Loadint10
Loadrecord
Loadtype1
Loadv4l
Loadvbe
Loadevdev
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Generic Keyboard
Driver  kbd
Option  CoreKeyboard
Option  XkbRules  xorg
Option  XkbModel  macintosh
Option  XkbLayout de
Option  XkbVariantnodeadkeys
Option  XkbOptionslv3:lwin_switch
EndSection

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Configured Mouse
Driver  mouse
Option  CorePointer
Option  Device/dev/input/mice
Option  Protocol  ImPS/2
Option  Emulate3Buttons   false
Option  ZAxisMapping  4 5
EndSection
Section 

Re: getting wireless and dvi out (clone mode) to work on iBook G4 - help needed, plz

2007-11-24 Thread P Kapat
On 11/24/07, Wolfgang Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My bad: You clearly wrote of an xorg.conf for clone mode. Attached is
 an xorg.conf I probably was using for display cloning for a few tests
 last year. I hope it helps ... but no guarantees ... :)

Thanks for the file - I'll keep this in my collection (hopefully I'll
not need it !!). As you might have seen from my last mail, I took my
chance with the new ati driver from experimental - and that seems to
perform much better and is more user friendly. So, I am sticking with
the experimental driver for now.

 Such crashes do not happen too often on my system. But if it does I'm
 always glad to have a second Linux machine for a little ssh walk on
 the crashed computer .. :)

Good advice. I do have another machine running Linux so that surely
helps out a lot.

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