Re: debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
Le jeudi 18 juin 2009 à 15:06 -0400, Tomislav V. Butkovic a écrit : > >To me this sounds like a faulty RAM problem. Try removing any > additionnal RAM module and install Debian the >usual way. > > The additional RAM module is originally installed as the sticker on > the ibook says: "800MHz/384MB/40GB/COMBO" - Should I still try taking > it out? I never saw an iBook with such an amount of RAM, but if the sticker says it so ... keep it that way. And as the others have deducted from your fan's activity, this may rather be an overheating problem. Regards, benjamin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
I had an iBook with a not-working-right fan, and I found last summer that I could prevent thermal shutdown by putting dead hard drives in the freezer, and resting the iBook on them one at a time. I had five in rotation for about a month until I felt confident enough to take the beast apart and fix the fan. During the install, switching to another console and running # modprobe therm_adt746x should let you access the thermal monitors with # cat /sys/devices/temperatures/sensor*_temperature Peter Tomislav V. Butkovic wrote: > Hello all, > > Thank you all for the timely reply. > > >>Based on my experiences the freezing >>probably is because of overheating. If the CPU over heats, that is the >>main cause of freezing. Do you hear the fans kick in during >>installation or does it remain off? > > It sounds likes the fans are on. The ventilation port where the hinge is > is not blocked, neither is the one next to the hard drive. If it is > overheating, how would I go about fixing this? > >>To me this sounds like a faulty RAM problem. Try removing any > additionnal RAM module and install Debian the >usual way. > > The additional RAM module is originally installed as the sticker on the > ibook says: "800MHz/384MB/40GB/COMBO" - Should I still try taking it out? > > It sounds like, according to amit, that the unit is overheating. I am > stumped on how to go about stopping it from overheating... I would > assume that since the RAM module is originally installed by apple, that > it would not be a problem. Is that a safe assumption? > > Thank You, > > tomislav > [ snip ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:06:25 -0400 "Tomislav V. Butkovic" wrote: > Hello all, > > Thank you all for the timely reply. > > > >Based on my experiences the freezing > >probably is because of overheating. If the CPU over heats, that is > >the main cause of freezing. Do you hear the fans kick in during > >installation or does it remain off? > > It sounds likes the fans are on. The ventilation port where the hinge > is is not blocked, neither is the one next to the hard drive. If it is > overheating, how would I go about fixing this? > So far it still sounds like a CPU overheating problem. You can reduce the CPU speed to avoid overheating. I forget the exact command but I will post again when i find out. Also, try placing an electric fan near the vents so cool air will be blown in. It could also be that there is a lot of dust blocking the vents? In the meantime, try to get a minimal debian install up and running. This usually takes less than 15 minutes. In that time frame the CPU will probably not overheat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Disable selecting with trackpad?
There is a gui that is on the pbbuttonsd website. Find out that out install it, and you should be good. I had to open it from a terminal window as a su to be able to save my configurations settings. It worked great. hth Stephen On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Ross Gohlke wrote: > Thanks for the reply! Looking at /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf (and man > pbbuttonsd.conf), I tried the following: > > TPMode = > TPMode = notap > #TPMode = > > It was originally: > TPMode = drag > > I have restarted after each change, with no effect. Trackpad is still > selecting text. > > /etc/init.d/pbbuttonsd is using /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf. > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. It's hot here in Memphis, TN, USA > without air-conditioning. My fingers get sticky, and the trackpad is > hindering my productivity. > > Thanks, > Ross > > > stephen sefick wrote: >> >> pbbuttonsd - i just installed it on my ibookG4 and no more a trackpad >> selection. >> hth >> >> Stephen Sefick >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Ross Gohlke wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I have a Powerbook 12" 1.5GHZ. I am using XFCE as my window manager. I am >>> running kernel 2.6.26.2 with Debian Squeeze. >>> >>> Is there any way to prevent the trackpad from being used to click? When I >>> move my mouse across the screen with the trackpad it frequently clicks on >>> things and selects as I drag. My trackpad is worn out, so using a lot of >>> pressure doesn't work very well. >>> >>> I have set Drag and Drop Threshold and Double Click Time and Distance to >>> maximum in Settings > Mouse > Behavior. I have also tried changing >>> Feedback >>> and Threshold for both Configure and appletouch under Settings > Mouse > >>> Devices. >>> >>> I turned this "feature" off under Mac OS X. Is there an equivalent (GUI >>> or >>> CLI) under Debian? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ross Gohlke >>> >>> >>> -- >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org >>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >>> listmas...@lists.debian.org >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- Stephen Sefick Let's not spend our time and resources thinking about things that are so little or so large that all they really do for us is puff us up and make us feel like gods. We are mammals, and have not exhausted the annoying little problems of being mammals. -K. Mullis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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this is the message, usually get them daily, any Help to get these off??? ~k debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Amit Uttamchandani a écrit : > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:42:45 -0400 > "Tomislav V. Butkovic" wrote: >> I'm installing debian lenny on an ibook g4 800mhz 360+mb ram and the Did you add the RAM yourself or was it added by your friend ? Do you know the brand, and its age ? >> installation process keeps freezing during various points of the >> installation during various installation attempts. Most commonly >> during the partintioning or during the installation of the base >> system. The farthest I've gotten in the installation of the base >> system is 98% then it froze. I am not sure what the problem here is. >> It seems that the longer period of time that the machine is off, the >> farther it can go through with the installation. To me this sounds like a faulty RAM problem. Try removing any additionnal RAM module and install Debian the usual way. >> I got the ibook from a friend with no hard drive. I put a 160gb >> seagate hard drive in, pata. I have tried installing ubuntu, >> opensuse, and now debian. Debian is the only installer that has >> gotten this far without any other problems. Has this iBook got any other problem before that you're aware of ? >> Any help would be appreciated. I am new to linux, though I strongly >> support the concept of community run open source software development >> and the free distribution of information. >> >> Thank You, >> >> tomislav > [...] > Instead of installing the whole base system. Simply use the net- install > CD and install the most basic system. This means when you are asked to > select what kind of install you want, disable the 'Desktop System'. Is there any memory testing tool for powerpc ? AFAIK, memtest is only for x86 ... Could be usefull to detect RAM problems. Regards, benjamin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
Hello all, Thank you all for the timely reply. >Based on my experiences the freezing >probably is because of overheating. If the CPU over heats, that is the >main cause of freezing. Do you hear the fans kick in during >installation or does it remain off? It sounds likes the fans are on. The ventilation port where the hinge is is not blocked, neither is the one next to the hard drive. If it is overheating, how would I go about fixing this? >To me this sounds like a faulty RAM problem. Try removing any additionnal RAM module and install Debian the >usual way. The additional RAM module is originally installed as the sticker on the ibook says: "800MHz/384MB/40GB/COMBO" - Should I still try taking it out? It sounds like, according to amit, that the unit is overheating. I am stumped on how to go about stopping it from overheating... I would assume that since the RAM module is originally installed by apple, that it would not be a problem. Is that a safe assumption? Thank You, tomislav 2009/6/18 Amit Uttamchandani > On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:42:45 -0400 > "Tomislav V. Butkovic" wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > I'm installing debian lenny on an ibook g4 800mhz 360+mb ram and the > > installation process keeps freezing during various points of the > > installation during various installation attempts. Most commonly > > during the partintioning or during the installation of the base > > system. The farthest I've gotten in the installation of the base > > system is 98% then it froze. I am not sure what the problem here is. > > It seems that the longer period of time that the machine is off, the > > farther it can go through with the installation. > > > > I got the ibook from a friend with no hard drive. I put a 160gb > > seagate hard drive in, pata. I have tried installing ubuntu, > > opensuse, and now debian. Debian is the only installer that has > > gotten this far without any other problems. > > > > Any help would be appreciated. I am new to linux, though I strongly > > support the concept of community run open source software development > > and the free distribution of information. > > > > Thank You, > > > > tomislav > > Sorry to hear that you are having problems. iBooks and Powerbooks are > well supported by Linux in general. Based on my experiences the freezing > probably is because of overheating. If the CPU over heats, that is the > main cause of freezing. Do you hear the fans kick in during > installation or does it remain off? > > Instead of installing the whole base system. Simply use the net-install > CD and install the most basic system. This means when you are asked to > select what kind of install you want, disable the 'Desktop System'. > > Another way to test out the theory is to run the debian cd in rescue > mode and just leave it on. In this case you are not installing anything > but simply running from the CD. If this freezes still then it is most > likely the CPU overheating. > > Also make sure there are no obstructions blocking the heat vents or fan > air flow. > > Good luck, > Amit >
Re: debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
same problem On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Benjamin Cama wrote: > Amit Uttamchandani a écrit : > >> On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:42:45 -0400 >> "Tomislav V. Butkovic" wrote: >> >>> I'm installing debian lenny on an ibook g4 800mhz 360+mb ram and the >>> >> > Did you add the RAM yourself or was it added by your friend ? Do you know > the brand, and its age ? No new RAM on mine. Just started to happen > > > installation process keeps freezing during various points of the >>> installation during various installation attempts. Most commonly >>> during the partintioning or during the installation of the base >>> system. The farthest I've gotten in the installation of the base >>> system is 98% then it froze. I am not sure what the problem here is. >>> It seems that the longer period of time that the machine is off, the >>> farther it can go through with the installation. >>> >> > To me this sounds like a faulty RAM problem. Try removing any additionnal > RAM module and install Debian the usual way. > > I got the ibook from a friend with no hard drive. I put a 160gb >>> seagate hard drive in, pata. I have tried installing ubuntu, >>> opensuse, and now debian. Debian is the only installer that has >>> gotten this far without any other problems. >>> >> > Has this iBook got any other problem before that you're aware of ? mine cannot do squat before halting, sometimes at boot time of OSX other times after booting, just idling. > > > Any help would be appreciated. I am new to linux, though I strongly >>> support the concept of community run open source software development >>> and the free distribution of information. >>> >>> Thank You, >>> >>> tomislav >>> >> >> [...] > >> Instead of installing the whole base system. Simply use the net-install >> CD and install the most basic system. This means when you are asked to >> select what kind of install you want, disable the 'Desktop System'. >> > > Is there any memory testing tool for powerpc ? AFAIK, memtest is only for > x86 ... Could be usefull to detect RAM problems. > > Regards, > benjamin > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- - -- --- Børge Holen http://arivene.net
Re: debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
Amit Uttamchandani a écrit : On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:42:45 -0400 "Tomislav V. Butkovic" wrote: I'm installing debian lenny on an ibook g4 800mhz 360+mb ram and the Did you add the RAM yourself or was it added by your friend ? Do you know the brand, and its age ? installation process keeps freezing during various points of the installation during various installation attempts. Most commonly during the partintioning or during the installation of the base system. The farthest I've gotten in the installation of the base system is 98% then it froze. I am not sure what the problem here is. It seems that the longer period of time that the machine is off, the farther it can go through with the installation. To me this sounds like a faulty RAM problem. Try removing any additionnal RAM module and install Debian the usual way. I got the ibook from a friend with no hard drive. I put a 160gb seagate hard drive in, pata. I have tried installing ubuntu, opensuse, and now debian. Debian is the only installer that has gotten this far without any other problems. Has this iBook got any other problem before that you're aware of ? Any help would be appreciated. I am new to linux, though I strongly support the concept of community run open source software development and the free distribution of information. Thank You, tomislav [...] Instead of installing the whole base system. Simply use the net-install CD and install the most basic system. This means when you are asked to select what kind of install you want, disable the 'Desktop System'. Is there any memory testing tool for powerpc ? AFAIK, memtest is only for x86 ... Could be usefull to detect RAM problems. Regards, benjamin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
On Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:42:45 -0400 "Tomislav V. Butkovic" wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm installing debian lenny on an ibook g4 800mhz 360+mb ram and the > installation process keeps freezing during various points of the > installation during various installation attempts. Most commonly > during the partintioning or during the installation of the base > system. The farthest I've gotten in the installation of the base > system is 98% then it froze. I am not sure what the problem here is. > It seems that the longer period of time that the machine is off, the > farther it can go through with the installation. > > I got the ibook from a friend with no hard drive. I put a 160gb > seagate hard drive in, pata. I have tried installing ubuntu, > opensuse, and now debian. Debian is the only installer that has > gotten this far without any other problems. > > Any help would be appreciated. I am new to linux, though I strongly > support the concept of community run open source software development > and the free distribution of information. > > Thank You, > > tomislav Sorry to hear that you are having problems. iBooks and Powerbooks are well supported by Linux in general. Based on my experiences the freezing probably is because of overheating. If the CPU over heats, that is the main cause of freezing. Do you hear the fans kick in during installation or does it remain off? Instead of installing the whole base system. Simply use the net-install CD and install the most basic system. This means when you are asked to select what kind of install you want, disable the 'Desktop System'. Another way to test out the theory is to run the debian cd in rescue mode and just leave it on. In this case you are not installing anything but simply running from the CD. If this freezes still then it is most likely the CPU overheating. Also make sure there are no obstructions blocking the heat vents or fan air flow. Good luck, Amit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
debian lenny installation on an ibook g4 keeps freezing
Hello all, I'm installing debian lenny on an ibook g4 800mhz 360+mb ram and the installation process keeps freezing during various points of the installation during various installation attempts. Most commonly during the partintioning or during the installation of the base system. The farthest I've gotten in the installation of the base system is 98% then it froze. I am not sure what the problem here is. It seems that the longer period of time that the machine is off, the farther it can go through with the installation. I got the ibook from a friend with no hard drive. I put a 160gb seagate hard drive in, pata. I have tried installing ubuntu, opensuse, and now debian. Debian is the only installer that has gotten this far without any other problems. Any help would be appreciated. I am new to linux, though I strongly support the concept of community run open source software development and the free distribution of information. Thank You, tomislav
Re: Disable selecting with trackpad?
Thanks for the reply! Looking at /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf (and man pbbuttonsd.conf), I tried the following: TPMode= TPMode= notap #TPMode= It was originally: TPMode= drag I have restarted after each change, with no effect. Trackpad is still selecting text. /etc/init.d/pbbuttonsd is using /etc/pbbuttonsd.conf. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. It's hot here in Memphis, TN, USA without air-conditioning. My fingers get sticky, and the trackpad is hindering my productivity. Thanks, Ross stephen sefick wrote: pbbuttonsd - i just installed it on my ibookG4 and no more a trackpad selection. hth Stephen Sefick On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Ross Gohlke wrote: Greetings, I have a Powerbook 12" 1.5GHZ. I am using XFCE as my window manager. I am running kernel 2.6.26.2 with Debian Squeeze. Is there any way to prevent the trackpad from being used to click? When I move my mouse across the screen with the trackpad it frequently clicks on things and selects as I drag. My trackpad is worn out, so using a lot of pressure doesn't work very well. I have set Drag and Drop Threshold and Double Click Time and Distance to maximum in Settings > Mouse > Behavior. I have also tried changing Feedback and Threshold for both Configure and appletouch under Settings > Mouse > Devices. I turned this "feature" off under Mac OS X. Is there an equivalent (GUI or CLI) under Debian? Thanks, Ross Gohlke -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
