Re: Newbee

2011-08-11 Thread Jeroen Diederen

On 08/12/2011 04:40 AM, David Lowe wrote:

Since Apple doesn't support OS 10.5 anymore, i've gone and put Debian 
6.0.2.1 on my old G4 PowerBook.  I confess i was initially disappointed when 
the install CD gave me Squeeze without a GUI.  Things went better after i 
started over with a net install disc, but i do wish that the limitations of 
what's on the CD vs. the DVD were more clearly explained on the download page.

Anyway, on to my main point.  I find it hard to get anything done right now, as 
the overly sensitive trackpad keeps noticing the heel of my palm and inserting 'clicks' 
when i don't mean to click.  Programs start and stop unbidden.  I believe the included 
'powerpcutils' package should be able to handle this, but i've so far been unable to get 
"/sbin/trackpad notap" to work.  I put it into the Startup programs, and it got 
deleted?  How can i get the desired result every time i log in?

Sent from my MacBookPro

"I got the first three wrong" he said, forthrightly.


http://www.mintppc.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=26&p=311&hilit=notap#p311

good luck


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Re: Newbee

2011-08-11 Thread David Lowe
On 11 Aug, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Brian Morris wrote:

> I have a g4 powerbook with debian and I can send you the configurations file 
> /etc/xorg.conf (tomorrow, when I have the computer) or you can find it 
> yourself by searching web.
> 
> If you want it.

Yeah, i'd like that.

> What it does is force you to use the button for clicking. However what gave 
> me some adjustment challenges: it is also set to vertical scroll with two 
> fingers. Ok, nice. 3rd it is set to secondary click - which you Really need 
> somehow - by two fingers down and the mouse button click. That is sometimes 
> tricky to do without scrolling.

?!?  I didn't think trackpads from this era were able to recognize 
multiple fingers.

> By the way, for speed, I am using the LXDE desktop environment. There is now 
> an lxde cd, as well as a netinstall option for it. much faster and less 
> resource consumptive than the other alternatives. 

Yeah, i might look into that.  Presumably i don't need to install from 
scratch, so i'll search for an LXDE package.

> I guess you have got the wifi to work ?

Some years ago i had experimented with Ubuntu on the PowerBook, and i 
do remember having to setup the Broadcom gizmo.  IIRC the open source version 
was only able to access the 802.11B protocol then.  Can we use 802.11G now?

> took me a while to realize what they meant by the firmware packages, just 
> dumb I guess, but then I also found there the firmware downloader for video 
> acceleration which helps...

Are you using the driver from nVidia?  Now that you mention it, there 
is some annoyance in that the screen is only using 8-bit color.  I wasn't going 
to bring up the issue until i dealt with the trackpad thing, but the default 
Debian wallpaper looks really ugly when posterized down to a few colors.

Sent from my MacBookPro

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Re: Newbee

2011-08-11 Thread Brian Morris
I have a g4 powerbook with debian and I can send you the configurations file
/etc/xorg.conf (tomorrow, when I have the computer) or you can find it
yourself by searching web.

If you want it. What it does is force you to use the button for clicking.
However what gave me some adjustment challenges: it is also set to vertical
scroll with two fingers. Ok, nice. 3rd it is set to secondary click - which
you Really need somehow - by two fingers down and the mouse button click.
That is sometimes tricky to do without scrolling.

By the way, for speed, I am using the LXDE desktop environment. There is now
an lxde cd, as well as a netinstall option for it. much faster and less
resource consumptive than the other alternatives.

I guess you have got the wifi to work ? took me a while to realize what they
meant by the firmware packages, just dumb I guess, but then I also found
there the firmware downloader for video acceleration which helps...


On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:40 PM, David Lowe  wrote:

>Since Apple doesn't support OS 10.5 anymore, i've gone and put
> Debian 6.0.2.1 on my old G4 PowerBook.  I confess i was initially
> disappointed when the install CD gave me Squeeze without a GUI.  Things went
> better after i started over with a net install disc, but i do wish that the
> limitations of what's on the CD vs. the DVD were more clearly explained on
> the download page.
>
>Anyway, on to my main point.  I find it hard to get anything done
> right now, as the overly sensitive trackpad keeps noticing the heel of my
> palm and inserting 'clicks' when i don't mean to click.  Programs start and
> stop unbidden.  I believe the included 'powerpcutils' package should be able
> to handle this, but i've so far been unable to get "/sbin/trackpad notap" to
> work.  I put it into the Startup programs, and it got deleted?  How can i
> get the desired result every time i log in?
>
> Sent from my MacBookPro
>
> "I got the first three wrong" he said, forthrightly.
>
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Newbee

2011-08-11 Thread David Lowe
Since Apple doesn't support OS 10.5 anymore, i've gone and put Debian 
6.0.2.1 on my old G4 PowerBook.  I confess i was initially disappointed when 
the install CD gave me Squeeze without a GUI.  Things went better after i 
started over with a net install disc, but i do wish that the limitations of 
what's on the CD vs. the DVD were more clearly explained on the download page.

Anyway, on to my main point.  I find it hard to get anything done right 
now, as the overly sensitive trackpad keeps noticing the heel of my palm and 
inserting 'clicks' when i don't mean to click.  Programs start and stop 
unbidden.  I believe the included 'powerpcutils' package should be able to 
handle this, but i've so far been unable to get "/sbin/trackpad notap" to work. 
 I put it into the Startup programs, and it got deleted?  How can i get the 
desired result every time i log in?

Sent from my MacBookPro

"I got the first three wrong" he said, forthrightly.

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Re: [Debootloaders-yaboot] Bug#636269:

2011-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas

On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Milan Kupcevic wrote:

> On 08/11/2011 12:16 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
>> 
>> Does anybody know what's holding up getting this fix into the main-line
>> Debian PowerPC kernels?
>> 
> 
> Nothing. It will just take some time. Next kernel upload (3.0.0-2) will
> replace ide_pmac with pata_macio.
> 
> Milan

Thanks very much Milan, for taking this on!

Do you have any idea when kernel 3.0.0-2 will hit the daily installation CDs?

Rik


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Re: [Debootloaders-yaboot] Bug#636269:

2011-08-11 Thread Milan Kupcevic
On 08/11/2011 12:16 PM, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
> Does anybody know what's holding up getting this fix into the main-line
> Debian PowerPC kernels?
> 

Nothing. It will just take some time. Next kernel upload (3.0.0-2) will
replace ide_pmac with pata_macio.

Milan


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Re: [Debootloaders-yaboot] Bug#636269:

2011-08-11 Thread Gary
chicken: debian installation disc doesn't include pata-macio in kernel ->
refer to egg
egg: can't install debian to build kernel needed to boot installation disc
-> refer to chicken


Re: [Debootloaders-yaboot] Bug#636269:

2011-08-11 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Rick Thomas [110811 12:16 -0400]:

> 
> On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:25 AM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> 
> >* Milan Kupcevic [110806 08:45 -0400]:
> >
> >>
> >>This problem is PowerMac specific. We have to compile in pata-macio
> >>(libata) instead of ide-pmac (deprecated ide) driver into kernel.
> >>
> >>Yaboot has to be fixed first to support pata-macio.
> >
> >1.3.16-3 works fine for me. I am running pata-macio.
> >
> >Elimar
> 
> I assume you are using an "own-compiled" kernel?

Yes

> And by "1.3.16-3" I assume you mean the latest yaboot?

Hmm, is there a newer one?

Elimar
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Re: [Debootloaders-yaboot] Bug#636269:

2011-08-11 Thread Rick Thomas


On Aug 11, 2011, at 2:25 AM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:


* Milan Kupcevic [110806 08:45 -0400]:



This problem is PowerMac specific. We have to compile in pata-macio
(libata) instead of ide-pmac (deprecated ide) driver into kernel.

Yaboot has to be fixed first to support pata-macio.


1.3.16-3 works fine for me. I am running pata-macio.

Elimar


I assume you are using an "own-compiled" kernel?  And by "1.3.16-3" I  
assume you mean the latest yaboot?


Sadly, that doesn't work for all of us.  In particular, unless I have  
the expertise and time to build a private installer CD with my own- 
compiled kernel, I can't install on a new machine.


Does anybody know what's holding up getting this fix into the main- 
line Debian PowerPC kernels?


Thanks!

Rick


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