Dead link on http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/devel

[Charles Plessy]

Hello everybody,

I just found that the page http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/devel on our
website had a dead link to "The Quinn-Diff List"
(http://buildd.debian.org/quinn-diff/output/unstable/by_section-powerpc/index.html).

Please CC me if you answer, I am not subscribed anymore.

Cheers,

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Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing

[Frank Fegert]

Hello,

I am an active tester/user for the following architectures and I intend
to continue this for the lifetime of the jessie release:

For powerpc, ppc64, I
  - test most base packages on this architecture
  - test d-i on this architecture
  - follow debian-powerpc on at least a daily basis
  - would like to provide buildd/developer machines (i.e. LPARs on an
"old" IBM Power6 P550 with console access)

I am not a DD/DM

Best regards,

Frank Fegert


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Re: no sound on powermac3,3 (powerbook g4 550) debian502 gnome

[frank]

Do you have the wi-fi running,



No it's the only thing i can't install is there a way to do it,


Aple I Mac G5, Power Mac 12.1,Power PC G5 (3.1)
Processor Speed 2.1GHZ
L2 cache (per CpU) 512KB
mEMO 512mb
Bus speed 700MHZ


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Re: New architecture ppc64el on Debian

[Jan-Benedict Glaw]

On Sun, 2013-09-22 13:17:02 +0200, Bastian Blank  wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 04:04:42PM -0300, Breno Leitao wrote:
> > On 09/21/2013 03:22 PM, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > >  What versions of the Linux kernel, gcc, glibc are needed?
> > Probably the yet-to-GA kernel, gcc and glibc. Patches started to being sent 
> > their
> > projects, tho.
> 
> Please list message-ids for the mails sent to the Linux powerpc
> mailing-list.  A new Debian port, either inofficial (via
> debian-ports.org) or official, will not go anywhere with publicly
> reviewed support.

The basic toolchain bits for example are long upstream. I'm building
powerpc64le-linux targeted stage1 cross-compilers from unpatched
upstream sources since August 8th, 2013:

http://toolchain.lug-owl.de/buildbot/?limit=0&target=powerpc64le-linux

(Please notice that the failed builds are usually due to unrelated
changes. Ppc64le is only one of a lot of targets I'm building for.)

MfG, JBG

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Re: New architecture ppc64el on Debian

[Bastian Blank]

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 04:04:42PM -0300, Breno Leitao wrote:
> On 09/21/2013 03:22 PM, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > Can you please describe the advantages of this new port?
> This is going to be part of the OpenPower consortium. This article[1] 
> describe a
> little bit about the about the architecture.

Please describe, from your perspective, the advantages and disadvantages
of this new port.  You are the proposer, so you have to show us why we
need it and what it provides over the existing ports.

> >  What versions of the Linux kernel, gcc, glibc are needed?
> Probably the yet-to-GA kernel, gcc and glibc. Patches started to being sent 
> their
> projects, tho.

Please list message-ids for the mails sent to the Linux powerpc
mailing-list.  A new Debian port, either inofficial (via
debian-ports.org) or official, will not go anywhere with publicly
reviewed support.

Bastian

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Re: New architecture ppc64el on Debian

[Joel Rees]

I suppose I'm not really one privileged to express these reactions,
but I tend to be a loose cannon sometimes.

On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 2:42 AM, Breno Leitao  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Now that PowerPC was announced to have Little Endian support, I'd like to 
> enable
> it on Debian, as a ppc64el architecture.

???

(Checking my calendar. Nope, I haven't suddenly slipped back to the
early 1990s.)

(Still puzzled.)

> I have been working internally at IBM on a Debian rootfs that runs on this
> architecture. As a plan, I am looking, in general, to have this architecture
> included on sid, first, and then being moving towards stable.

So, pardon me for being dense, but is the build process really going
to be all that much more difficult than putting a compiler flag for
least significant byte first in the make files and typing make?

I suppose, along with lsb-first, there are some changes in the soc
peripherals and some special tuning of the instruction set. I'm
assuming the latter is taken care of by the compiler, which I assume
you already have had running and debugged for the newly tuned parts
for at least a few months?

Not that it's my problem to worry about at all.

> Unfortunately the process is still in the beginning and we will not have a 
> machine
> for public access in the near term, although, this is one of our targets, as
> having two other buildd machines in different locations to support 
> autobuilder.

My impression is that the sooner you can have the new target hardware
available to donate to the build farms the better, as someone else has
also mentioned.

And I'm wondering if this "little-endian" hardware is hardwired
"little-endian", and why the fuss?

> Should I take any concern before start submitting patches to enable this 
> architecture?

You've had several people hint. I've hinted, too. It seems like there
is something that needs to be explained.

Why the fuss?

It's not like endian-ness is a barrier to performance. Is there some
Intel-fomented rumor floating around data centers with BOFH admins,
that the endian-ness is the Power architecture's Achilles' heel or
something?

Hmm. I suppose it might have something to do with graphics chips which
seem to be all x86-oriented and are now being used as dedicated
numeric array processors, per this commentary in LWN:
. That's going the way of the dodo in
about three to five years, but I suppose there may be some purpose in
reactionary marketing now.

Well, anyway, the devs are the ones to make up their minds on how much
resource to put in on this, so I suppose I should shut up. But it sure
seems like Intel leads a lot of useless market churn. If the
predictions about global climate change turn out to be true, when the
amount of excess waste heat generated by using x86 in infrastructure
is calculated, do we sue Intel for the part it plays in wasting the
earth through excess hardware turnover and energy use?

> Thanks
> Breno
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