Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Robert Millan
On 23/11/2013 22:53, Don Armstrong wrote:
> kfreebsd-amd64
> kfreebsd-i386

Most of the bugs affecting one of these also affect the other. I think
it makes sense to add a single tag to cover both.

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Dave Land

On 11/23/13 4:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 11/24/2013 12:22 AM, Helge Deller wrote:

On 11/24/2013 12:21 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

On 11/23/2013 11:51 PM, Helge Deller wrote:

Please add "hppa"


Assuming that you are one of the hppa guys, how is the port doing? Any
chance that the buildds will be up and running again anytime soon?


Yes, think so.
I'm working on that just right now...


Very cool! Hope you guys will soon be where we already are with the
m68k port :).

Crossing my fingers! It's been sad to see the number of up-to-date
packages in hppa dropping over the time.

Keep us updated!

Adrian


[Sorry, meant to cc. this to the list]

I'm currently working with Helge Deller and John David Anglin on kernel 
testing with one of my machines (64 Bit SMP - HP Visualize J6750 
workstation). I'm not one of the official developers, but willing to 
donate time and machine resources to keep the port going. We've had some 
pretty interesting breakthroughs recently, regarding the 64 bit SMP kernel.


Dave L.

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> 
> > These are the list of ports that I see:
> 
> I would strongly suggest not hardcoding this list and instead
> harvesting the Architecture fields of the Release files for oldstable
> -> experimental on ftp.d.o, ftp.d-p.o and maybe archive.d.o.
> 
> We have made this mistake and similar ones (usually hardcoding release
> codenames) in the QA infrastructure and it has bitten us hard in the
> past. Lets not make that mistake here.

The list will be hardcoded, because it has to live in the Debbugs
configuration file, and tags shouldn't disappear just because
debian-ports or debian has dropped an architecture. That said, I was
planning on setting it up so that I at least was notified when the set
from cannonical location changed.

> The release files are the closest to a canonical list of ports. There
> are other ports out there not maintained on d-p.o (like the Interix or
> Solaris ones for example) but I don't think we need to bother about
> those until they move closer to Debian.

OK.

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 11/24/2013 01:20 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> John Paul Adrian Glaubitz dixit:
>> So, the buildds are already up and running? Shouldn't they be showing
>> up on buildd.debian-ports.org [1]?
> 
> I think I saw buildd uploads for hppa on incoming.d.o this week.

Indeed:

> http://incoming.debian-ports.org/buildd/packages/unstable/main/

Very cool!

Adrian

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz dixit:

>On 11/24/2013 12:47 AM, John David Anglin wrote:

>> It should be going up now.
>
>So, the buildds are already up and running? Shouldn't they be showing
>up on buildd.debian-ports.org [1]?

I think I saw buildd uploads for hppa on incoming.d.o this week.


Paul Wise dixit:

>are other ports out there not maintained on d-p.o (like the Interix or

Huh, the Interix port is not vaporware? Interesting…

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Don Armstrong wrote:

> These are the list of ports that I see:

I would strongly suggest not hardcoding this list and instead
harvesting the Architecture fields of the Release files for oldstable
-> experimental on ftp.d.o, ftp.d-p.o and maybe archive.d.o.

We have made this mistake and similar ones (usually hardcoding release
codenames) in the QA infrastructure and it has bitten us hard in the
past. Lets not make that mistake here.

The release files are the closest to a canonical list of ports. There
are other ports out there not maintained on d-p.o (like the Interix or
Solaris ones for example) but I don't think we need to bother about
those until they move closer to Debian.

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread John David Anglin

On 23-Nov-13, at 6:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:


Crossing my fingers! It's been sad to see the number of up-to-date
packages in hppa dropping over the time.


It should be going up now.

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 11/24/2013 12:47 AM, John David Anglin wrote:
> On 23-Nov-13, at 6:35 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> 
>> Crossing my fingers! It's been sad to see the number of up-to-date
>> packages in hppa dropping over the time.
> 
> It should be going up now.

So, the buildds are already up and running? Shouldn't they be showing
up on buildd.debian-ports.org [1]?

Adrian

> [1]
http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/architecture.php?a=hppa&suite=sid

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 11/24/2013 12:22 AM, Helge Deller wrote:
> On 11/24/2013 12:21 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> On 11/23/2013 11:51 PM, Helge Deller wrote:
>>> Please add "hppa"
>>
>> Assuming that you are one of the hppa guys, how is the port doing? Any
>> chance that the buildds will be up and running again anytime soon?
> 
> Yes, think so.
> I'm working on that just right now...

Very cool! Hope you guys will soon be where we already are with the
m68k port :).

Crossing my fingers! It's been sad to see the number of up-to-date
packages in hppa dropping over the time.

Keep us updated!

Adrian

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Helge Deller
On 11/24/2013 12:21 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 11/23/2013 11:51 PM, Helge Deller wrote:
>> Please add "hppa"
> 
> Assuming that you are one of the hppa guys, how is the port doing? Any
> chance that the buildds will be up and running again anytime soon?

Yes, think so.
I'm working on that just right now...

Helge


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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 11/23/2013 11:51 PM, Helge Deller wrote:
>> What else am I missing?
> 
> Please add "hppa"

Assuming that you are one of the hppa guys, how is the port doing? Any
chance that the buildds will be up and running again anytime soon?

Cheers,

Adrian

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Helge Deller
On 11/23/2013 10:53 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Ivo De Decker wrote:
>> During a discussion about architecture qualification, the release team
>> concluded that it would be interesting to have a better way to track
>> architecture-specific bugs. It would be nice to have BTS tags for each
>> architecture that is currently in the archive. It might also make
>> sense to have tags for the architectures on debian-ports, to be able
>> to filter issues about these easily.
> 
> This sounds reasonable; are only tags required, or do we need more
> infrastructure than that?
> 
> These are the list of ports that I see:
> 
> amd64
> armel
> armhf
> hurd-i386
> i386
> ia64
> kfreebsd-amd64
> kfreebsd-i386
> mips
> mipsel
> powerpc
> s390x
> sparc
> avr32
> sh
> 
> What else am I missing?

Please add "hppa"

Helge




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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Don Armstrong dixit:

>These are the list of ports that I see:

Question is, where do you see them?

>avr32

This one got removed even from debian-ports for several
reasons.

>sh

I think there's sh4 but not just sh.

Looking at the buildd pages is probably the best idea.
Combining https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=mksh
and http://buildd.debian-ports.org/status/package.php?p=mksh
(and ignoring s390 removal) gives us this list:

alpha
amd64
arm64
armel
armhf
hppa
hurd-i386
i386
ia64
kfreebsd-amd64
kfreebsd-i386
m68k
mips
mipsel
powerpc
powerpcspe
ppc64
s390x
sh4
sparc
sparc64
x32

This keeps hppa, which I’ve seen have some activity recently.

>has another; I'd like to reference a canonical location for ports
>(perhaps maintained by debian-ports or similar) so I don't have to

Even the list on debian-ports is out of date wrt. debian-ports
architectures – it misses x32 and arm64, for example. Sorry
about that. There seems to be nobody keeping this list up to
date so looking at the buildds seems best.

Another option is of course to look at what dpkg supports,
unearthing things like armeb, arm, avr32, sh3, etc.

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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 23 November 2013 21:53, Don Armstrong  wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Ivo De Decker wrote:
>> During a discussion about architecture qualification, the release team
>> concluded that it would be interesting to have a better way to track
>> architecture-specific bugs. It would be nice to have BTS tags for each
>> architecture that is currently in the archive. It might also make
>> sense to have tags for the architectures on debian-ports, to be able
>> to filter issues about these easily.
>
> This sounds reasonable; are only tags required, or do we need more
> infrastructure than that?
>
> These are the list of ports that I see:
>
> amd64
> armel
> armhf
> hurd-i386
> i386
> ia64
> kfreebsd-amd64
> kfreebsd-i386
> mips
> mipsel
> powerpc
> s390x
> sparc
> avr32
> sh
>
> What else am I missing? [I note that
> http://www.debian.org/ports/#portlist-released seems to have a
> reasonable list of ports, and
> http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/releases/sid/archive.data?view=markup
> has another; I'd like to reference a canonical location for ports
> (perhaps maintained by debian-ports or similar) so I don't have to
> figure out for myself which ports need a tag and what that tag should
> be, and which ports are just duplicates of other ports, and therefore
> don't need a tag.
>

There are 484 reports usertagged "debian-...@lists.debian.org arm64".
Please consider including "arm64" tag.

Regards,

Dmitrijs.


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Re: Bug#730258: please add arch-specific BTS tags

2013-11-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 23 Nov 2013, Ivo De Decker wrote:
> During a discussion about architecture qualification, the release team
> concluded that it would be interesting to have a better way to track
> architecture-specific bugs. It would be nice to have BTS tags for each
> architecture that is currently in the archive. It might also make
> sense to have tags for the architectures on debian-ports, to be able
> to filter issues about these easily.

This sounds reasonable; are only tags required, or do we need more
infrastructure than that?

These are the list of ports that I see:

amd64
armel
armhf
hurd-i386
i386
ia64
kfreebsd-amd64
kfreebsd-i386
mips
mipsel
powerpc
s390x
sparc
avr32
sh

What else am I missing? [I note that
http://www.debian.org/ports/#portlist-released seems to have a
reasonable list of ports, and
http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/webwml/webwml/english/releases/sid/archive.data?view=markup
has another; I'd like to reference a canonical location for ports
(perhaps maintained by debian-ports or similar) so I don't have to
figure out for myself which ports need a tag and what that tag should
be, and which ports are just duplicates of other ports, and therefore
don't need a tag.

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