Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
On 7/14/06, Helge Kreutzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [1] Last year I tried to find the prices of an huge german DSL provider but failed. Later (after deciding for an competitor) I saw on an windows box that all price information was "stored" in a flash movie. Well, too bad for them. This has been and is my experience -- however I find my 7 year old needs flash for some kids related web content. I just gonna have to bite the bullet and buy a Windows i386 box. -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ibook + USB hard drive = yaboot failure
On 7/14/06, brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i think what Mr CS was describing was the partition map. that is usually followed by a bunch of device drivers, then the small 0.8-1.0MB yaboot partition - which often seems to be called the first partition, even though it is hda9 on my disk what did you use to partition in the (very) first place ? was it a current (aka usb2. aware) tool ? IMHO the only way system restore would help is if something is wrong on your macosintall. in which case maybe better use parted to also split your linix root for a macos backup partition !! if you look at your disk in linix with parted or mac-fdisk, or both, what do the partition maps look like. are all the labels consistent, with each other as well as the description from the "man bootstrap" command ? If your system was formatted using ghe Mac (Apple) disk formatter -- then yes -- it would be higher up around /dev/sda9 or there abouts; however you dont need all those unless you plan on using the disk Dual Booting -- which I do not do. I do not use anything left over from the Apple Disk formatter except /dev/[sh]d?1 (in my case /dev/hda1) which is the mandatory Apple Disk Label itself. Cheers! -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flash < v7 compatible?
=\ Is it me or has the use of Windows as a "great" graphics platform now surpassed Apple? I mean I understand that the flash which is available is not as feature rich as that which is available for Windows but is there some way to get a faster development cycle -- maybe shoot for Flash version 8 compatibilty before we all die? In closing I wold like to direct interested parties to: http://www.flashsandy.org/tutorials/2-create-a-first-box Thank you for listening to my rant /= =) -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Debian on a Wallstreet Powerbook
On 7/13/06, Chasecreek Systemhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: H, maybe I need to cut the spine off my book and have it converted back to digital form? 7.0 is so old I doubt Novell thought to keep it for historical sake. The copyright page says I can copy it. Here is what my book looks like (except mine is a PowerPC v7.0) http://www.applelinks.com/mooresviews/linapp.shtml I only have the one; I wish someone knew where the original book source was ... of course it is on those CDs I cannot find \= -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Debian on a Wallstreet Powerbook
On 7/13/06, Rick Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: make that Cmd-Opt-O-F Im so totally asleep \= You are right of course =) I have looked at all the "loose" CDs I have -- there are boxes I have not yet unpacked but I'm doubting Ill find them any time soon; so in the mean time here is a good english version of what I wanted Ben to read: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/~tkurosu/OnE/Linux/suse-v71-ppc-install.html http://www.xs4all.nl/~fgalli/imac-linux-7.0+7.3.html Also, there may be other URLs of interest via Google: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SuSE+PowerPC+installation+procedure&btnG=Google+Search http://www.google.com/search?q=SuSE+Linux+7.0+Handbook+PowerPC&hl=en&lr=&start=10&sa=N http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:bZsEK0uCSowJ:www.debian.org/releases/woody/powerpc/install.en.pdf+SuSE+PowerPC+7.1+installation+procedure+Latex+book+source&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2 H, maybe I need to cut the spine off my book and have it converted back to digital form? 7.0 is so old I doubt Novell thought to keep it for historical sake. The copyright page says I can copy it. -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Debian on a Wallstreet Powerbook
On 7/12/06, Ben Racher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and can get bootX to boot linux, but I need a vmlinux image that will load all the appropriate modules and such, and I can't figure out where Is this really a question of building a kernel to suit your needs? I'm looking for my old SuSE PowerPC disks -- they have really good instructions about Wallstreet-era systems which used BootX to boot -- it may prove helpful to you. If I can find them I will post a URL to the instructions. BTW -- You should have been able to reach OpenFormware by rebooting and holding down the keys Option-O-F all at the same time. -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ibook + USB hard drive = yaboot failure
On 7/12/06, Michael Hrivnak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the advice. For the time, I am travelling all summer and will be without my apple rescue disk for another month or so. Is there another way to "bless" the Apple partition? Yes, I find that a Ubuntu Breezy Badger 5.10 and possibly the Dapper Drake 6.06 CD will create the correct initial two partitions. I do not know of a why to correct it after the fact; only by reformatting. I'll be testing the Dapper Drake CD this weekend, if my schedule holds. In the mean time, I'm trying to get my synaptics touchpad detected and the 2.6.15-1-powerpc kernel booted. Stand by for more potential questions I hear iffy things about this but since I only have an iMac I woul be of little help with that =( Hopefully it will turn out to be trivial for you. Regards, -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ibook + USB hard drive = yaboot failure
[Grrr .. sorry for following-up my own post] On 7/12/06, Chasecreek Systemhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2) Some boot managers expect it to be separate and formated as ext2 (as opposed to ext3) -- however these days yaboot can see the boot software even inside / when formated at ext3. On PowerPC (read Apple) hard drives it must be formated as HFSl on Ultrasparcs it must be formated as a recognized SUN Disk Label (which I give again, as an example.) This is the way the drive *must* be laid out before the OpenFirmware Boot manager will "see" it (I list it the way I know it will always work for *me* but YMMV because while I have used various types of 'linux' on a couple hundred Macs I realise that there can still be "gotchas" floating around, and people's experience levels vary a great deal) - /dev/[hs]d?1 -- Apple Disk Label as created by the Apple Disk Formatter; it is usually ~32KB in size... /dev/[hs]d?2 -- Linux OpenBoot Partition, must be formatted 1MB and be created as HFS not HFS+ or ext2/3. Beyond those two required partitions I don't see any issues with laying out the disk anyway you want; but those two are not negotiable. This advice falls under the "Works for me" category =) -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ibook + USB hard drive = yaboot failure
On 7/12/06, brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Before you start over... might try typing "man bootstrap" -- it will give some hint on what tbxi refers to. just in case some one or other makes an error, it helps to understand a little bit about what's going on ??? half the reason i am here anyway, the other half to escape those who would dictate my thinking for me ... particularly, it is confusing to me why he is supposed to need *two* little partitions, one for yaboot, the other for ??? (?driver partitions?) brian I'm sure if you are addressing my reply to the OP question; but I'll chime in =) I suggested the /boot partition separate from the / for no other reasons than: 1) I'm old and thats the way I've always done it (since even when SuSE ran on PowerPC). These days the actual variety of "usable" distros that run on PowerPC is a toss up between FC and Debian (and related, like Ubuntu)... 2) Some boot managers expect it to be separate and formated as ext2 (as opposed to ext3) -- however these days yaboot can see the boot software even inside / when formated at ext3. The other "little" partition you are possibly referring to is the Apple Disk Label, all Macs (and Ultrasparcs for another example) must have a Disk Label and it must be first AND it must be formated a particular way -- it's only 32KB so its not like its gonna eat a lot of diskspace, even with a 6GB disk (which is what shipped originally in my iMac.) On PowerPC (read Apple) hard drives it must be formated as HFSl on Ultrasparcs it must be formated as a recognized SUN Disk Label (which I give again, as an example.) That's the way I see it has to be and unless someone can provide step-by-step proof of how to "make" it work another way thats the way I'm gonna keep doing it =) Cheers =) -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ibook + USB hard drive = yaboot failure
On 7/11/06, Michael Hrivnak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Specifically, I issued the command "setenv boot-device ud:2,\\:tbxi" in openfirmware. It seems that I now have to do that every time I want to boot Debian from the USB drive. Even though the variable is persistent, the system just won't boot unless I re-issue that command followed by "mac-boot". Does anyone know why? If I start the system while holding "option", the USB drive does not show up. The USB drive does not have a "blessed" /dev/sda1 Apple partition; remake the disk using these instructions: Using the Apple Recovery CD to correct: While holding the [Option] key down boot your system; once the system has booted insert the Apple recovery CD and reboot (or simply reclick the U-Turn Icon to get it to rescan the boot drives to see the CD.) Next just reformat your USB /dev/sda hard drive -- make sure to select the options to recreate the disk labels, etc. Next, boot off the Debian CD, while the USB drive is on; hen you get to the parition steps remove all partitions from the USB drive EXCEPT /dev/sda1 (that is where the "blessed" Apple label resides.) Create your /dev/sda2 as /boot as ext3, create /dev/sda3 as / (root) as ext3, and create /dev/sda4 as swap Finish the install as usual. When you reboot using the Option key the USB drive will appear -- after about 20 or 30 seconds -- my system is way slow \= LOL. PS - MacOS9 will fit into a Zip250 also; just another hint for booting. HTH/Sx -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't boot debian etch beta 2 install cd or stable cd on imac g3 revA 233mhz
On 7/10/06, Matthew Yee-King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am trying to bring an ancient imac g3 233 back into service but am If the system is Circa 1999 then this is an iffy situation -- not all of those iMacs released during 1999 are compatible. The oldest iMac I have been able to get Debian (or FC for that matter) to work on is a iMac Blueberry 1999 350MHz G3 with 320MB RAM. Both Debian and FC believe it is a Firewire MoBo but it isn't. I use my own 160GB Seagate Barracuda HD; nothing bigger appears to want to work correctly. FC used to think it was a laptop =) LOL. -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
