Re: Porting linuxinfo to ppc64el
Hello Larry, On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:41:21AM -0400, larry wrote: [2] And, since I haven't had access to a PPC machine for quite some time, maybe on some plain PPC as well? Linux Terpsicore 3.11-2-powerpc #1 Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) One 7400, altivec supported PowerMac3,1 400MHz processor, 49.81 total bogomips, 1512M RAM System library 2.19.0 Linux Terpsicore 3.11-2-powerpc #1 Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) One 7400, altivec supported PowerMac3,1 400MHz processor, 49.81 total bogomips, 1512M RAM System library 2.19.0 Thanks for testing / reporting! Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Porting linuxinfo to ppc64el
Hello Lennart, On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 09:14:58AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 08:41:21AM -0400, larry wrote: [2] And, since I haven't had access to a PPC machine for quite some time, maybe on some plain PPC as well? Linux Terpsicore 3.11-2-powerpc #1 Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) One 7400, altivec supported PowerMac3,1 400MHz processor, 49.81 total bogomips, 1512M RAM System library 2.19.0 Linux Terpsicore 3.11-2-powerpc #1 Debian 3.11.10-1 (2013-12-04) One 7400, altivec supported PowerMac3,1 400MHz processor, 49.81 total bogomips, 1512M RAM System library 2.19.0 An IBM p710: On wheezy: Linux rceng03 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u2 24 POWER7 (architected), altivec supported CHRP IBM,8231-E1C 3720MHz processors, 0.00 total bogomips, 212M RAM System library 2.13.0 Given there is 16GB ram in the machine, that is clearly wrong. Using the version from sid: Linux rceng03 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3+deb7u2 24 POWER7 (architected), altivec supported CHRP IBM,8231-E1C 3720MHz processors, 0.00 total bogomips, 15298M RAM System library 2.13.0 So that is better. Thanks for testing. Yes, I finally removed the wrong heuristic for the memory some time ago. Regarding the bogomips: Could you send me the output for /proc/cpuinfo for this machine? Linux rx5000-len 3.0.0-2-8360e #1 Fri Jul 11 18:41:40 UTC 2014 One e300c1 RC8360CM 533MHz processor, 133.33 total bogomips, 503M RAM System library 2.13.0 So again, much better. Same reason. Thanks again for providing the input! Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Porting linuxinfo to ppc64el
Hello Mauricio, On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:30:25PM -0300, Mauricio Faria de Oliveira wrote: On 09/05/2014 02:44 PM, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: I recently read [1] about the new Debian architecture ppc64el. Thanks for your interest :) Sorry, I missed replying earlier. No problem at all! I maintain a small tool linuxinfo, which checks for the architecture and prints some system information. It would be kind if you could check on ppc64el [2] if linuxinfo works and produces sensible output. [snip] It looks good; the only strange thing is 0 bogomips. Rest is fine: Could you send me the output of /proc/cpuinfo for this machine, maybe in both configurations (non-virtualized and virtualized): Thanks for testing! Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Porting linuxinfo to ppc64el
Hello Lennart, On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 03:50:59PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 09:11:21PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Thanks for testing. Yes, I finally removed the wrong heuristic for the memory some time ago. Regarding the bogomips: Could you send me the output for /proc/cpuinfo for this machine? There is no bogomips in there. It is a modern system using a timer for such things, not bogomips. I don't even see BogoMIPS mentioned in dmesg on that system. Thanks for the check/clarification. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Porting linuxinfo to ppc64el
Hello, I recently read [1] about the new Debian architecture ppc64el. I maintain a small tool linuxinfo, which checks for the architecture and prints some system information. It would be kind if you could check on ppc64el [2] if linuxinfo works and produces sensible output. If not, bugs or replies to this e-mail (including the problems and /proc/cpuinfo) would be very welcome. Thanks Helge [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/08/msg00012.html [2] And, since I haven't had access to a PPC machine for quite some time, maybe on some plain PPC as well? -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann deb...@helgefjell.de Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No audio on PowerBook G4 for kernels 2.6.22
Hello Gerfried, On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 06:29:36PM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: Sorry for late reply :) No problem. * Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-30 19:33:13 CEST]: I own a PowerBook G4. Welcome to the club. :) Well, for quite some time (though original on ibook). When booting into 2.6.25 (Debian), no directory /dev/snd is present (only /dev/sndstad) and mpg123 fails again with /dev/dsp: No such file or directory Which mpg123 version do you use? Please note that there are multiple 1.4.3-3, which seems to be the lateste in Lenny packages out there providing that alternative binary. Additionally installing mpg123-alsa does not help at all. And trying with (self-compiled) mplayer does not help either. I think I tried various other players. Do you have /dev/dsp? snd_aoa_fabric_layout is the module that makes alsa work on my PB G4 so you might want to give that a try, and my mpg123 opens /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p With strace, I see that my mpg123 tries that device (file) as well, but it is not present. In /dev/snd I only see controlC0 and timer. And yes, snd_aoa_fabric_layout is loaded (among other sound modules). I think I'll have to hunt now why I don't have this device. Thanks! Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No audio on PowerBook G4 for kernels 2.6.22
Hello, On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 02:26:32PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Sorry for being a bit late No problem On Wed, Jul 30 2008, at 19:33 +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Helge, looks like we have the same machine: Thats great. Kernel: 2.6.26-rc5-53c8ba9 I'm on 2.6.24. lsmod - Module Size Used by snd_aoa_codec_onyx 12512 2 snd_aoa_fabric_layout11144 3 snd_aoa15520 2 snd_aoa_codec_onyx,snd_aoa_fabric_layout snd_aoa_i2sbus 20164 1 snd_pcm_oss44096 0 snd_pcm73156 2 snd_aoa_i2sbus,snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss 16416 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_oss35060 0 snd_seq_midi_event 6336 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq55272 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 21508 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd53044 18 snd_aoa_codec_onyx,snd_aoa_fabric_layout,snd_aoa,snd_aoa_i2sbus,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device snd_seq_device 6988 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq soundcore 5924 1 snd snd_aoa_soundbus5028 2 snd_aoa_fabric_layout,snd_aoa_i2sbus I have all these as well (or I'm able to install them). snd_page_alloc 8392 1 snd_pcm snd_seq_dummy 2820 0 snd_seq_midi7008 0 snd_rawmidi22400 1 snd_seq_midi Don't have these. i2c_powermac4160 0 After loading this one, suddenly I now have /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p and /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c, and mpg123 actually starts! Though still no sound, but at least one step further. Maybe I need to somehow unmute the speakers? Yes, umuting with alsamixer works! Thank you very much! Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: No audio on PowerBook G4 for kernels 2.6.22
Hello José, On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:13:04PM +0200, José JORGE wrote: On my side, (iMacDV (G3)) sound works nicely with kernel 2.6.25, but no sound with 2.6.26. All seems OK, but speaker stays silent... I haven't tried 2.6.25 much, but could you send me the output of lsmod for your machine (though I doubt that it will help)? Thanks Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
No audio on PowerBook G4 for kernels 2.6.22
Hello, I own a PowerBook G4. For previous kernels (2.6.19 self compiled, Debian 2.6.22) playing audio files was no problem. When using the Debian 2.6.25 or a self compiled 2.6.24 I no longer have audio though. When I look at the loaded modules I see that in 2.6.24 snd_seq, snd_seq_device, snd_seq_midi_event and snd_seq_oss are loaded additionally (full diff see below). When stracing e.g. mpg123 in 2.6.22, lots of files in /dev/snd are opened. In 2.6.24 I get several error messages for mpg123, starting with: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory The directory /dev/snd only contains two files: controlC0 timer When booting into 2.6.25 (Debian), no directory /dev/snd is present (only /dev/sndstad) and mpg123 fails again with /dev/dsp: No such file or directory Compared to 2.6.22, snd_aoa, snd_aoa_codec_onyx, snd_aoa_fabric_layout, snd_aoa_i2sbus and snd_aoa_soundbus are not loaded in 2.6.25. When loading snd_aoa, I see: Setting up ALSA..warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: laod_state:1573 No soundcards found...'...done Trying to load snd_powermac directs me (expected) to snd_aoa. I'm glad for any pointers to get sound back. Machine info: = machine : PowerBook5,8 motherboard : PowerBook5,8 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (PowerBook G4 15) Differences in loaded modules: == --- /tmp/22modules 2008-07-29 21:27:23.0 +0200 +++ /tmp/24modules 2008-07-29 21:27:31.0 +0200 @@ -1,47 +1,27 @@ Module -aes agpgart appletouch -bcm43xx -blkcipher cbc cdrom -crc_itu_t dm_crypt -dm_mirror dm_mod -dm_snapshot ehci_hcd +eth1394 evdev -ext2 -ext3 ff_memless -firewire_core -firewire_ohci -firewire_sbp2 -firmware_class -hid -i2c_powermac ide_cd -ide_disk -ieee80211 -ieee80211_crypt -ieee80211softmac +ieee1394 ip_tables iptable_filter ipv6 -jbd joydev loop -mbcache nf_conntrack nf_conntrack_ipv4 -nfnetlink +ohci1394 pcmcia pcmcia_core rsrc_nonstatic -scsi_mod -sha256 snd snd_aoa snd_aoa_codec_onyx @@ -52,11 +32,14 @@ snd_page_alloc snd_pcm snd_pcm_oss +snd_seq +snd_seq_device +snd_seq_midi_event +snd_seq_oss snd_timer soundcore sungem sungem_phy -tsdev uninorth_agp usbhid x_tables -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dipl.-Phys. http://www.helgefjell.de/debian.php 64bit GNU powered gpg signed mail preferred Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Playing a movie on ppc.
Hello Charles, On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 01:54:57PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: With the arrival of mplayer in Debian, I wanted to try if it was able to play a movie (I did not manage with other programs). Unfortunately, it dit not work, for instance with the following command: mplayer http://charles.plessy.org/picture_gallery/8.4ngn1:GFP/020207_84G_24h_tel-di_20x_anim_xy.mpg The output follows. Is it possible to watch any mpeg file on ppc ? It should be, and I've definitly done so in the past. mplayer (self compiled) works/worked fine for me on alpha, x86, x86_64 and ppc. Please report this as a bug against mplayer (and also the totem problem you experience). Simply paste this e-mail to the list in the bug report (use reportbug). The maintainer(s) should then help you getting it to work. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Playing a movie on ppc.
Hello, On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 12:36:20PM +0100, Børge Holen wrote: On Sunday 05 November 2006 12:33, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Hello Charles, On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 01:54:57PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: With the arrival of mplayer in Debian, I wanted to try if it was able to play a movie (I did not manage with other programs). Unfortunately, it dit not work, for instance with the following command: mplayer http://charles.plessy.org/picture_gallery/8.4ngn1:GFP/020207_84G_24h_tel- di_20x_anim_xy.mpg The output follows. Is it possible to watch any mpeg file on ppc ? It should be, and I've definitly done so in the past. mplayer (self compiled) works/worked fine for me on alpha, x86, x86_64 and ppc. Please report this as a bug against mplayer (and also the totem problem you experience). Simply paste this e-mail to the list in the bug report (use reportbug). The maintainer(s) should then help you getting it to work. There's no bug to report. He needs to get ; a new deb file with the right compiler configurations, install the missing xv libs, compile it himself to get the nvidia drivers goin. Please, please do not discourage people from filing bugs. He used an official debian package, and it failed to work (as I understood, for several input files). A user is not supposed to ; a new deb file (whatever this means), install missing xv libs (this is a serious bug (missing depenencies), if the package fails to work without those libs installed), compile himself - no this is not gentoo, users are expected to get a working binary. When mplayer was out of debian, this might have been acceptable, but now it no longer is! So there *is* a bug to report, and Charles, please be so kind and do so. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
Hello Adam, On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 03:45:18PM -0700, Adam D wrote: Yes, it had switched. Now the investigation goes to find out why eth0 is now eth1. Apparently, I have installed a package that is Check the archives for various causes. Usually the order of the detection matters nowadays. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Wolfang, On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 01:01:25AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 12:31:49AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: About your other changes, if you want to modify pc105 German layout, please discuss with other German people, not on this list only. They may vote as they like ... All I hope is that they at least do vote .. :) Oh, and you could also add Unicode quote characters U201E/U201C (doublelowquotemark, leftdoublequotemark) to the German layout, for instance on v/b keys which use to have quotation marks. Please file a bug upstream when you reach a consensus with other German people: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=xkeyboard-config I like the idea of having the german quotes on the keyboard, even on x86/alpha. When you start collecting opinions/votes, please CC: me so I can participate. Thanks! Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Denis, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 09:40:44PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:02:33PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: [...] Denis: Do you by chance know, who works on the PowerPC installation manual? In debian-installer, one selects a *console* layout; only a subset of keymaps from console-data are included because of space constraints. There is code in xserver-xorg.config to transform the selected console keymap into XKB settings. How are these settings selected? Some users performed tests for their hardware, gave their selected console keymap and their desired XKB settings, so that xserver-xorg.config can be updated. We are now very late in the release cycle, I am not sure if this can be fixed, but if you want to try, please hurry up. To me, those XKB settings do not belong to installation manual, but I will be glad to add a README for Mac users into xkb-data if someone can write detailed instructions. Well, once Etch is released, I can have a look at the installer to see what it does. What I intend(ed) was to put something in the installation guide for PowerPC (at least for now) which explains how to switch between Mac-like third level assignement and PC-like third level assignement. I guess you or some d-i person gets to chose which will be the default for X, but users might not like that. Therefore I volunteered to provide an easy to find explanation. Additionally something like this could go into a README for xkb as well, if you think that is sensible. For Etch+1 there should be a possibility in d-i to choose it, but right now thats IMHO not possible anymore. I could see that I get documentation for this setting into it. And if it helps calm things down, we could mace the apple-layout the default. In another thread, Wolfgang asked days ago what is the plan for the future. As explained above, testing keymaps of debian-installer would help fixing current bugs. Sorry, right now I need my laptop working but I will see if I can nevertheless to a test install for Etch+1. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Jörg, On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 10:05:52PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I run % setxkbmap -model pc105 -layout de -variant nodeadkeys I get the normal PC layout. Maybe you want -option lv3:lwin_switch to use the Apple key as AltGr. Thanks, this works! So with current xkb, both the Mac-layout people and the PC layout people (using a german keyboard) have a working mapping. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 12:20:23AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: $ setxkbmap -option -option apple:badmap -rules xorg -model powerbook -layout de -variant nodeadkeys -print | xkbcomp - :0 does solve this issue Thanks .. :) OT: Do you see a Euro-sign in X/on the console for Apple-E? And if so, what kind of font do you use? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hallo Denis,
On Sun, Sep 24, 2006 at 11:34:14PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
So the following still needs to be done for a german ibook keyboard:
1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get
nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift
modifier it works. This is keycode 21.
It works for me, please try with xev:
Thats what I did, my output differs slightly:
KeyRelease event, serial 31, synthetic NO, window 0x1e1,
32 0x101
root 0x135, subw 0x0, time 3784639752, (874,-79), root:(886,584),
0x44 4192263880 (117,59)(613,86)
state 0x0, keycode 21 (keysym 0xb4, acute), same_screen YES,
0x1 0x60, grave
XLookupString gives 2 bytes: (c2 b4) ´
1(60) `
Strange, in vim I get a `, while on the console I now get a ,
2. The AltGr-Bracket sequence is still wrong, i.e. I would like the
PC style version, i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\ while I get
(starting at AltGr-5) []|{}}\. This behaviour should be switchable.
Also I still wonder why } is on AltGr-9 *and* AltGr-0.
3. AltGr-Q still produces « and not @
I am happy that you kept AltGr-Y and AltGr-X as « and ».
Can you please test this patch, and if possible discuss improvements
with other German Mac users?
Will do so over the weekend.
Also several characters are on several positions, e.g. `, ~, |, «, ß,
}. As of now, I don't see this as a problem, but maybe a general
consensus should be found regarding the AltGr-mapping.
This is indeed usually not a problem.
Denis
Index: xkb-data/symbols/macintosh_vndr/de
===
--- xkb-data.orig/symbols/macintosh_vndr/de
+++ xkb-data/symbols/macintosh_vndr/de
@@ -18,16 +18,16 @@
key AE02 { [ 2,quotedbl, twosuperior
] };
key AE03 { [ 3,section, threesuperior,sterling
] };
key AE04 { [ 4,dollar, onequarter,currency
] };
-key AE05 { [ 5,percent, bracketleft
] };
-key AE06 { [ 6,ampersand, bracketright
] };
-key AE07 { [ 7,slash,bar,backslash
] };
-key AE08 { [ 8,parenleft, braceleft,asciitilde
] };
-key AE09 { [ 9,parenright, braceright
] };
+key AE05 { [ 5,percent, onehalf
] };
+key AE06 { [ 6,ampersand, notsign ]
};
+key AE07 { [ 7,slash, braceleft, seveneighths
] };
+key AE08 { [ 8,parenleft, bracketleft, trademark
] };
+key AE09 { [ 9,parenright, bracketright, plusminus
] };
key AE10 { [ 0,equal, braceright, degree
] };
key AE11 { [ssharp,question, backslash, questiondown
] };
key AE12 { [ dead_acute, dead_grave, dead_cedilla
] };
-key AD01 { [ q,Q, guillemotleft,guillemotright ]
};
+key AD01 { [ q,Q, at ]
};
key AD03 { [ e,E, EuroSign ]
};
key AD04 { [ r,R, registered ]
};
key AD05 { [ t,T ] };
@@ -46,7 +46,8 @@
key AC11 { [ adiaeresis, Adiaeresis, dead_circumflex
] };
key LSGT { [ less,greater,bar
] };
-key AB01 { [ y,Y, guillemotleft,less ]
};
+key AB01 { [ y,Y, guillemotright, less ] };
+key AB02 { [ x,X, guillemotleft,greater ] };
key AB06 { [ n,N, asciitilde ]
};
key AB07 { [ m,M, mu ]
};
key AB08 { [ comma,semicolon ] };
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Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 04:05:59PM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote: OT: Do you see a Euro-sign in X/on the console for Apple-E? And if so, what kind of font do you use? It seems to me that you need use uft-8. I think I already use UTF-8. On the console I issued unicode_start. LANG is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the console I get a white square for the euro sign, in X simply an empty space. Keycode is 26 EuroSign, so I think it probably is a font issue. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Jörg,
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:19:58AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote:
Wolfgang Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 03:52:11PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get
nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift
modifier it works. This is keycode 21.
2. The AltGr-Bracket sequence is still wrong, i.e. I would like the
PC style version, i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\
My vote for this. Definitely. :)
Use pc105 instead of macintosh. It's an Apple keyboard not a PC keyboard.
I vote for the Apple layout.
I'd like the PC variant as well. So what kind of options do I need to
get the pc style layout? If thats as good as the current version of
Denis, but only has the swapped brackets, I can of course switch.
For your question: I only run MacOSX for one game, and since almost no
third level is engraved, guessing becomes quite hard. And besides, I
can type blindly the PC style keyboard. I bought this machine for
linux, not for MacOSX.
3. AltGr-Q still produces « and not @
Same here, on a PowerBook5.8: ISO_Level3_Shift + Q = «
At me, the sign @ is engraved on the L key not on the Q key. Why do you
expect a PC keyboard layout when you use an Apple keyboard?
I don't mind having Apple-L returning @, and since it is engraved, I
could even live with Apple-Q *not* returning @ (though it would be
really nice still). But I dont' think a lonely « is sensible, so I
would at least suggest both return @. Do you actually use Apple-Q as «?
I just wonder why apple chose not to engrave most of the third-level
keys (but then I wouldn't have a big point for requesting a PC style
layout, at least as an option :-))
Greetings
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Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Jörg, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:15:43AM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the following still needs to be done for a german ibook keyboard: 1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift modifier it works. This is keycode 21. It's a dead key. Press a 'e' after it and you get é. The ' is definitive the wrong character! I set XkbVariant to nodeadkeys, hence I do not expect (read: want) this composing. And, for some reason, I actually get , now, so this possibility is definitly gone. 2. The AltGr-Bracket sequence is still wrong, i.e. I would like the PC style version, Then configure a PC style keyboard. Use pc105 instead of macintosh. Could you be so kind to tell me exactly what I should try? There are so many possibilities now, I'd rather try the right one. (Especially since a PC style is still slightly different then the ibook one). It's a Apple keyboard. Don't use it, if you don't like it. Pardon? I mean, I could unlock it from my ibook, but I do not see how to detach the cable, and I've never heard that apple sells other keyboards for their ibooks. Or do you think I should by an external USB keyboard instead of helping to create an option to use the PC style variant? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Wolfang, On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:13:51PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Problem so far: I'm happy with what I have with the latest xkb-data here .. :) Mee too. The brackets are about the only thing left, and I've hadn't have a chance to try Denis latest patch yet. I always get either a wonderful, fully fledged PC style keyboard, but I never managed to get a, for me rather useless, Macintosh style keyboard, with a Kp_Enter key and so on .. :-)) It's a Apple keyboard. Don't use it, if you don't like it. With logics like this I could say: This is Linux. Go get OSX if you want an Apple keyboard. Especially since apple decided *not* to engrave this uncommon use. Colin: Is there anything already decided in how the future keyboard layouts on xkb-data, for Apple machines, will look like: PC-style, or Apple style, or options for both of them? That would be ideal. Then the installation guide to simply have a paragraph telling users how to switch. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Jörg, On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 09:25:44AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: You're missing the point. The macintosh layouts should match what's physically engraved on the keys of an Apple keyboard as much as possible. Same for the pc layouts vs. PC keyboards. You should appreciate the possibility of choosing between these instead of trying to impose one onto the other. Exactly my point. Except, there is almost nothing engraved for the third level. I only see the Euro sign (Apple-E) and the At-Sign (Apple-L). So there is *no* preference hardware wise. I don't think there should be any on the software side. Since obviously a choice has to be made, the switching should be clearly spelled out in the documentation. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Olaf, On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 09:47:27PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote: macintosh means and does MacOS mapping. I made it that way back in 2000. Dont change it. If you want a PC map, use a PC map. Well, first thanks for creating a keyboard map. But judging by my experience and also what I've read on the list and several web pages for ibooks/powerbooks, the mapping was broken for almost everyone. So I don't think it would be wrong to not only fix it, but also use the chance to find out the default mapping most for the most people. IMHO there should be no Don't pre-supposed. And to be honest, I don't care what the name of the mapping is. I *do* care that it works by default or after a simple change clearly spelt out in the (installation) documentation, like. Keyboard: For insert your favorite reason the default keyboard is set up like under your favorite other OS, if you like the setup to resemble the one used on other architectures, e.g. x86 or alpha then insert a simple description here, like add the following line in /etc/xorg.conf, or run dpkg-reconfigure In this thread I've only seen vague indications of what I should do, but no clear indication which map in which variant produces the same result as Denis good work modulo the third level mapping for 7-0. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 04:07:05PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Strange, in vim I get a `, while on the console I now get a , Scratch that: it's working in -13 should fine, I was accidentially typing Apple-'. Greetings, Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello, On Thu, Sep 28, 2006 at 10:46:49PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Which problems do you have, when you load the pc105 layout? Aren't it work? Exactly. Currently I've loaded xkb-data 0.8-14, and with that version as with the previous one I basically can use only 2 models: powerbook or pc105: pc105 seems broken. With 'powerbook' at least I find the keys I need. I've tried it with -13 on my ibook G4 and it is broken as well. If that would help, I can provide a list of broken keycodes, but the entire third level seems goofed or gone. So I'm editing symbols/macintosh_vndr/de currently ... I will surely have what I want :) .. Could you post your final results and check with Denis if they can be included in the official deb? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello,
On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:53:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
This helps:
setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout de -option apple:badmap
-option lv3:lwin_switch -print | xkbcomp - :0
which maps keycode 115, the left Apple key, to ISO_Level3_Shift:
And I have @ | { [ ] } « »
On my ibook, without the badmap-option, it works like a charm as well.
And it also hase the »« mapping on Apple-Y and Apple-X. So I think
your question is answered if that should be the default, but maybe
there is something different in MacOSX there?
Denis: Do you by chance know, who works on the PowerPC installation
manual? I could see that I get documentation for this setting into it.
And if it helps calm things down, we could mace the apple-layout the
default.
Greetings
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Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello, On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:38:44AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: I don't really know if it's a xkb or a kernel problem, but here the numeric keypad don't really work. I guess on osx Fn+u gives a 4, but it doesn't here. If i numlock using Fn+F6, the led under F6 lights, but the numeric keypad isn't activated. with -13, pressing Fn-j I get a 1, Fn-k 2 and so on, when pressing Fn-F6 (Num.), j gives me a 1 directly (same for the others). Since I've never used it on my ibook G4 before, I don't know if that is the supposed behaviour, but it seems sensible. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:43:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:02:33PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 01:53:13AM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: This helps: setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout de -option apple:badmap -option lv3:lwin_switch -print | xkbcomp - :0 I type: setxkbmap -option -rules xorg -model pc105 -layout de -option lv3:lwin_switch -print | xkbcomp - :0 Does this mean, with the badmap option your keyboard doesn't do what you want? Yes, *with* badmap, and ^° are switche, without (as shown above) *all* keys I normally use (e.g. not that secret num key) are just as they are supposed to. As to without the badmap option: With that setting, do you have a nice pc105 layout, without the (right side of SHIFT and ^° (above TAB) keys being swapped? Yes. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Euro sign [was: Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable]
Hello Wolfgang, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 05:09:04PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: I removed the In-Reply-To: header, to get a new thread ... I hope you don't mind ... :) No, that is perfectly fine, in fact, I've should it done as well. Could you also remove the CC: to my address please as well, I am subscribed. On X (that is KDE/KDM), according to the KDE control-center, General: Arial 9 (numbers here and following mean size) Fixed width: Monospace 9 Toolbar: Arial 9 Menu:Arial 9 Window Title:Sans Serif 9 Taskbar: Arial 9 Desktop: Arial 9 Please let me know if you need more details (Font packages installed, etc ..) First I'd like to know if you can see it in an xterm. I can perfectly fine see it in openoffice or gvim, but not in xterm or vim. It works in uxterm, though :-)). If it works in your xterm, can you post the results of appres XTerm | grep font On console, /etc/console-tools/config is responsible for the settings, correct?: Excerpt from /etc/console-tools/config # Turn on numlock by default #LEDS=+num SCREEN_FONT=lat9w-16 SCREEN_FONT_vc2=lat9w-16 SCREEN_FONT_vc3=lat9w-16 SCREEN_FONT_vc4=lat9w-16 SCREEN_FONT_vc5=lat9w-16 SCREEN_FONT_vc6=lat9w-16 Thanks. I just wonder when the maintainers of console-tools fix #299798 so others don't have to search the mailing lists for this. With this change, I now have a euro in the console as well. [notes like above simply help me forget man pages, once I found how some tool works ... :) ] I know, you should see my notes :-)) My boottime.kmap.gz: www.wolfgangpfeiffer.com/boottime.kmap.gz My keymap per se works, except I'd have to add » and « at some stage, but on the laptop I don't need them this often. Please let me know if you need to know more Except for my xterm question above, I'm happy. You've helped a lot. Thanks. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello Wolfgang, On Fri, Sep 29, 2006 at 06:10:08PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: Interesting: Here, on a PowerBook5,8, it's vice versa: Without 'badmap', and ^° are swapped, with badmap they are where the keys engravement shows they should be. I think this is the random element Denis talked about. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data with support for Mac keyboards into unstable
Hello,
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 02:19:42AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
I just uploaded xkb-data 0.8-13 into unstable, it
is available at http://people.debian.org/~barbier/tmp/
and will reach mirrors in almost a day.
I took it from your directory, as even ftp.debian.org does not have it
(yet).
This version is very similar to 0.8-12exp4, I believe
that it is pretty solid, but needs more polishing.
We can discuss to change default settings and broken
layouts, but keep in mind that since most layouts
were unusable, people now have different habits and
we cannot make everybody happy with default settings.
Well, no change for me, except that it does not crash X anymore :-))
So the following still needs to be done for a german ibook keyboard:
1. When pressing the key between ß? and backspace, I still get
nothing, while I expect ' as printed on the key. With the shift
modifier it works. This is keycode 21.
2. The AltGr-Bracket sequence is still wrong, i.e. I would like the
PC style version, i.e. (starting at AltGR-7) {[]}\ while I get
(starting at AltGr-5) []|{}}\. This behaviour should be switchable.
Also I still wonder why } is on AltGr-9 *and* AltGr-0.
3. AltGr-Q still produces « and not @
I am happy that you kept AltGr-Y and AltGr-X as « and ».
Also several characters are on several positions, e.g. `, ~, |, «, ß,
}. As of now, I don't see this as a problem, but maybe a general
consensus should be found regarding the AltGr-mapping.
Please, test it, send feedback if something does not
work or can be improved, write documentation for other
powerpc users that could be included in xkb-data, etc.
Please let me know if you need more/other feedback.
Thanks for your help.
Thanks for your efforts cleaning this up.
Greetings
Helge
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Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards
Hello Denis,
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:48:11PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:00:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
Next I compare both the keyboard on the console and in X. Since the third
level is (almost) not printed on the keyboard an I never use X (but normal
keyboards a lot) I'd like to have the third level as on an ordinary
keyboard.
All keys which work as expected are not reported.
Number row without any modifier:
Key between ß and backspace does not respond (expected:')
The leftmost key (next to 1) is instead of ^
Please test by setting XkbModel to macintosh_old2. As explained in
other subthreads, these 2 keys are swapped for some models. The
macintosh_old2 name is a temporary one and will be changed in the
final version.
Yes, this is correct now. The main deficiency (from my POV) is that
the brackets are still goofed up (but I think this might by the mac
layout) (i.e. []|{}} instead of {[]}\), Apple-Q still yields « instead of @
and that ` is not printed (I can get it by Apple-#)
Number row with Apple key pressed:
2 and 3 ok; but then mixed up,
starting at 5:[]|{}}\
should be (from 7): {[]}\
This is still the case
Also for macintohs_old2
There are 4 German Macintosh layouts in /usr/share/keymaps/mac:
* mac-de2-ext.kmap.gz
3rd level for number keys are the ones you want, but keycodes are
wrong, for instance 7 has keycode 26 instead of 8. (ADB keycodes?)
* mac-de-latin1.kmap.gz
3rd level for number keys are the ones you want, but keycodes are
wrong too.
It is broken since it includes include/mac-qwerty-layout which
does no more exist in console-data in sid. (Bug in console-data?)
* mac-de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
3rd level for number keys are the same as in X, and keycodes are
wrong too.
* mac-ibook-de.kmap.gz
You submitted this one, so it is surely the one you are using ;)
Probably, but I've never given it that name. What would be the proper
one, i.e. which of these 4 are intended to stay and support PC-style
german ibook keyboards? (And how does this relate to macintosh_old2?)
And there are also USB variants in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz:
* mac-usb-de-latin1.kmap.gz
Looks similar to X keymaps.
* mac-usb-de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
Ditto.
These are for external USB keyboards, correct?
All console layouts use @, so X has surely to be changed.
Great to hear.
Yxcv-row, with Apple key pressed:
Apple-Y is « and Apple-X is » (which unfortunately does not work on
the console), which is great! (Ideally I'd like them swapped, as in
german they are reversed compared to the french/swiss usage)
This is still the case
It makes sense, this change can be pushed upstream if there is a consensus
amongst German Mac users.
I thinks at least the translators will like it, as »« are the current
quotes used. If you like, I can ask on the german debian translators
list for comments.
Greetings
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Re: Please test xkb-data 0.8-12exp2 in experimental
Hello Denis, sorry, this one I cannot test, as it reproducibly (tried it twice) kills my X server when I try to load the keymap, i.e. when issuing: setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0 I will write a bug report agaings x11-common. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards
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keyboard. If it is still valuable, I'll produce a new keyboard
photo in the next days
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Re: xkb-data: Help needed for Macintosh keyboards
Hello Denis,
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 09:35:46PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
Hello Denis,
I used xkb-data_0.8-10exp1_all.deb from your tmp directory as described in
now the same with xkb-data_0.8-12exp1_all.deb
First, after issuing setxkbmap -print | xkbcomp - :0 I can finally jump
from and to the console again (i.e. X - console). This is very valuable, as
I work a lot on the console (and the keyboard works perfectly there,
fortunately).
Valid here as well.
Next I compare both the keyboard on the console and in X. Since the third
level is (almost) not printed on the keyboard an I never use X (but normal
keyboards a lot) I'd like to have the third level as on an ordinary keyboard.
All keys which work as expected are not reported.
Number row without any modifier:
Key between ß and backspace does not respond (expected:')
The leftmost key (next to 1) is instead of ^
Key between ß and backspace does not respond (expected:')
Number row with shift:
The leftmost key (next to 1) is instead of °
Number row with Apple key pressed:
2 and 3 ok; but then mixed up,
starting at 5:[]|{}}\
should be (from 7): {[]}\
This is still the case
Qwertz-row, with Apple key pressed:
q - « instead of @ (not necessary, see Apple-y)
plus some other characters I've never used on some other letters. (I
assume, that I don't see the euro sign with Apple-E but ¤ is a font
issue)
This is still the case.
Asdf-row, with Apple key pressed:
Some other characters and some double usage (e.g. ß, @, ^, `), now
suprise (on the console most of these are no special character)
This is still the case
Yxcv-row, without any modifier:
The lefmost key (next to left shift) is now ^ instead of
Yxcv-row, with shift key:
The lefmost key (next to left shift) is now ° instead of
Yxcv-row, with Apple key pressed:
Apple-Y is « and Apple-X is » (which unfortunately does not work on
the console), which is great! (Ideally I'd like them swapped, as in
german they are reversed compared to the french/swiss usage)
This is still the case
So in conclusion, I like your new layout. It would be great, if you could
enable an easy possibility to chose between pc-style third level and
macintosh third level.
Well, the new one degarded a little, as it swapped the ^/° with the
/ key on my german iBook G4 keyboard
I hope this updated info helps.
Greetings
Helge
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Re: Testing NOW has security updates (was: Re: spam)
Hello, On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 03:34:50PM +0300, Eddy Petri??or wrote: Probably, I'll have to either ask Joey himself, or look at the presentation video. But that is more than it was before. but I would still not call it security support. Anyway, wrong list for such discussions, so stopping now. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: spam
Hello, On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:07:22PM -0700, brian wrote: another important consideration as far as i know, it could be worse than spam. mail has always been the way 'nix systems get broken into. especially if You mean windows? Which Unix/Linux mail client is so stupid to enable break ins? Don't get me wrong: Problems with services, root kits, bugs in web applications yes, but especially mail is a typical Windows attack vector, not Linux (unless you seriously misconfigure your e-mail client on Linux). For spam filtering I recommend spamassasin btw. Combined with procmail you get nice sorting even. p.s. browsing the threads over there also gives you a little perspective on how these dialogues here really look. and how bad it is when multiple topics combined in a single thread, or/ and a new topic started in a single thread. Yes, thread hijack is not nice, indeed, even in a thread-aware MUA. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash v7 compatible?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 01:28:17PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: There are at least two free flash player. One is swf-player, the other is never, but i never tested it and didn't remember the name. It is called gnash and under heavy development. I read that the browser plugin is now getting usable, but haven't tried. Check out www.gnu.org for the exact location (or try the package in experimental). Personally I consider flash synonym for we don't want your attention or money[1] which is perfectly fine with me. Greetings Helge [1] Last year I tried to find the prices of an huge german DSL provider but failed. Later (after deciding for an competitor) I saw on an windows box that all price information was stored in a flash movie. Well, too bad for them. -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cross compiling Mozilla for Power PC
Hello Rajanibabu, On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 02:30:35AM -0600, Rajanibabu wrote: i want to cross compile Mozilla Web-browser for Power PC on a Linux Machine. please tell me the Procedure and the Packages available. Unfortunately I cannot help you. But for others to help you, it would be best if you gave a little more detail: *)Why do you want to cross-compile? If you have a Power PC machine available, then why not compile there? *)What did you try already? Did you get stuck? *)What is your current setup? I assume you are on x86 to cross-compile? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Kernel build failure in include/asm-m68k/setup.h
Hello, I want to try out the broadcom-drivers on my ibook and so I upgraded to testing (today) and tried to compile newer kernels (first without broadcom-changes/patches). I copy my .config from 2.6.10 which I've been running since several month and run make oldconfig fakeroot make-kpkg clean fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=$group.$int_version_str kernel_image (actually a script runs this, which fills in the $group and $int_version_str). Make oldconfig does not ask any questions for any of the kernels I tried (2.6.15.7 and 2.6.16.5 from kernel.org and 2.6.16-7 from www.debian.org), and all build die with (exactly the same): make[1]: Leaving directory `/scr/build/kernel/building' echo done debian/stamp-kernel-conf == making target CONFIG-indep [new prereqs: conf.vars stamp-kernel-conf]== This is kernel package version 10.040. == making target CONFIG/linux-source-2.6.10 [new prereqs: CONFIG-indep]== == making target CONFIG/linux-doc-2.6.10 [new prereqs: CONFIG-indep]== == making target CONFIG/linux-manual-2.6.10 [new prereqs: CONFIG-indep]== == making stamp-configure-indep because of == == making target configure-indep [new prereqs: stamp-configure-indep]== == making stamp-configure because of == == making target debian/stamp-build-kernel [new prereqs: sanity_check stamp-kernel-conf]== This is kernel package version 10.040. /usr/bin/makeARCH=ppc \ zImage make[1]: Entering directory `/scr/build/kernel/building' CHK include/linux/version.h HOSTCC scripts/basic/docproc scripts/basic/docproc.c: In function 'find_export_symbols': scripts/basic/docproc.c:184: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness scripts/basic/docproc.c:185: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness scripts/basic/docproc.c:202: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'add_new_symbol' differ in signedness scripts/basic/docproc.c: In function 'singfunc': scripts/basic/docproc.c:274: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness scripts/basic/docproc.c: In function 'parse_file': scripts/basic/docproc.c:296: warning: pointer targets in assignment differ in signedness make[2]: `arch/ppc/kernel/asm-offsets.s' is up to date. CC init/main.o In file included from include/asm/setup.h:8, from include/asm/machdep.h:8, from include/asm/irq.h:6, from include/asm/hardirq.h:8, from include/linux/hardirq.h:6, from include/asm-generic/local.h:6, from include/asm/local.h:4, from include/linux/module.h:21, from init/main.c:16: include/asm-m68k/setup.h:365: error: array type has incomplete element type init/main.c: In function 'maxcpus': init/main.c:150: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 2 of 'get_option' differ in signedness make[2]: *** [init/main.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [init] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/scr/build/kernel/building' make: *** [debian/stamp-build-kernel] Error 2 Especially the asm-m68k part looks fishy to me. Any ideas what could have gone wrong? Thanks Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpoljdl4phcB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: No xterm window?!
Hello, On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 08:15:09PM +0200, Sammy wrote: I ran aptitude install x-window-system and successfully installed X-Windows. When I run startx I get a gray background with an X in the middle (mouse pointer). My mouse is not working, but I don't get any errors (EE) lines in /var/log/XFree86.0.log file. From the HOWTOs, I thought that an xterm window should start by default even though I DON'T have any window managers (such as GNOME or KDE) installed. Isn't that correct? Am I missing something?? Is xterm installed? dpkg -l xterm Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpEXAtqcM2ZY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hi and first and hopefully last question
Hello Sven, On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 09:46:50AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 08:11:36AM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: I remember that in a recent issue of a german Linux magazin a work around for this was presented: Use the 2.4 kernel to do a (minimal) install and then build your own kernel ( 2.6.8 in Sarge). There were some minor tips around this as well which I forgot, but since you use Debian for some time this should get you going. This advice is x86 specific, and using 2.4 kernels on powerpc these days is akin to pure madness :) Sorry, the article was *explicitly* talking about recent PowerBooks and it was an explicit work around for this (or a similar) problem. It is in the current issue of Linux User (02/2006). The article is not (yet) online, but (if you speak german) you can see the table of contents in www.linuxuser.de And yes, this is a *workaround* and clearly marked as such, and the article in no way suggest running 2.4 anything but the shortest time needed for install. I don't have the magazine myself anymore. A more exact tip is : 1) use the sarge installer, and go upto the install phase. I think the problem was, that at *this stage* the install was hanging, but if this goes this far, then fine, of course! Another possibility is to try the debian/etch beta2 installer, which will have 2.6.15 kernel from the start. You will even be able to have the graphical installer then. The beta2 is not yet out (but almost there), and you can use daily builds of the installer until it is. This is of course the best option as (remaining bugs) can be filed and fixed most promptly. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpFAntQnyDSN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: hi and first and hopefully last question
Hello, On Sun, Feb 12, 2006 at 07:56:48AM +0100, Daniel Payno wrote: El 11/02/2006, a las 22:17, Mich Lanners escribió: I plan to install linux but: * Ubuntu/PPC 5.10's Live/Install kernels don't support my Superdrive What do you mean; doesn't support the SuperDrive? The DVD drive is a generic MMC3-compatible IDE drive; there is no issue of support involved here. O, more precisely, the debian_installer, once booted whilst pressing dong 'C', past the locale config, tries to detect the cd, and load the needed module in the install kernel, to proceed with the install. That's the point where the install stops and issues a warning of unsupported hardware, and error in locating cd-rom drive Being a new tech DL superdrive it didn't surprise me really, i'm an old debian user, so in my early times i remember going to buy hardware always with the Hardware-HOWTO in my hand :) [..] I remember that in a recent issue of a german Linux magazin a work around for this was presented: Use the 2.4 kernel to do a (minimal) install and then build your own kernel ( 2.6.8 in Sarge). There were some minor tips around this as well which I forgot, but since you use Debian for some time this should get you going. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpkSU9inVeGy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2.6.14 and m3mirror broken
Hello, sorry, I don't know the fix, but On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 02:53:11AM +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: being already quite desperate, i try to get the m3mirror tool (to clone my Pismo's display on the external VGA out) to run under 2.6.14. I have old instructions to manually change the file /usr/src/linux/arch/ppc/syslib/prom_init.c at line 401: Did you report this in the BTS to get fixed at least in Debian? Does anyone know how to bring my external VGA output back to work? I have to give a lecture on tuesday using my trusted notebook and am in demand for a vga output then. Why don't you go back to the old, fixed kernel (at least for the presentation)? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpLZpqdQzIGY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: d-i kernel
Hello, On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 01:10:19AM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote: On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 09:11 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Don't tell me that d-i still needs devfs !?!?!?!? As far as I know it does. I'd be happy to be proven wrong ;) IIRC, the release goal for the next beta is to switch to udev. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgp0gSlwxEy2e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Terminal problems
Hello, On Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:48:34AM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=337221 . Thanks, this was the one I remember reading as well (and thats what I based my earlier post on). Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpTwQ9m4yNGr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Terminal problems
Hello, On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 07:27:47PM -0800, Mike S wrote: Looking at the failsafe terminal output I keep getting the massage xterm: Cannot allocute color whatever sometimes green, somtimes black, I think I have seen every color after this warning at one point or another I did dist-upgrade from stable, so maybe there is something crossing between xfree86 and xorg? Like I said this is just blowing my min, and I am out of ideas, and thankyou in advance for any help. There was a recent bug report on this. I think the cause was that you did not update *all* xfree packages to xorg. Check if you have any xfree86 packages left and update them to their xorg counterpart. Do you have any *color files in /etc/X11/app-defaults ? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpb0BTv5KxYN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Feedback on patch to PowerPC ports pmac page requested
Hello, On Sat, Oct 22, 2005 at 07:24:23PM -0700, Shyamal Prasad wrote: http://www.us.debian.org/ports/powerpc/inst/pmac is quite out of date. I use new Mac hardware (G5), and have little experience with minimal installs of Debian since potato. Comments on the patch below would be appreciated. I will send this to debian-www after any corrections that might be required. Good that you update. Can you please try to keep the line breaks as close to the previous version as possible, so that translators can reuse as much as possible? -1G is probably enough space for an experimental Linux system. You can -get by with less, perhaps as little as 200M for a really basic system, -but you'll more than likely want more than just the basics. +1G is probably a realistic minimum disk space required for an +experimental Linux system. You might get by with less, perhaps as +little as 600 to 700M for a really basic system, but you'll more than +likely want more than just the basics. So that, e.g., the last two lines would read: +little as 600 to 700M for a really basic system, but you'll more than likely want more than just the basics. Thanks! Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpcv6cHStPmZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Boot message : Unknown symbol ...
Hello, On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 10:33:13AM +0200, Bin Zhang wrote: I built the debian linux source 2.6.13 on my ibook G4 1.2 Ghz. Sometimes I have this boot message: - usbcore: registered new driver usbfs usbcore: registered new driver hub Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones uninorth_agp: Unknown symbol agp_bridge uninorth_agp: Unknown symbol agp_find_bridge ... This happens after udev upgrade (hotplug deleted). I don't know if this is a udev problem or a kernel problem. Check out recent bug reports about udev. There is a problem, that some modules are loaded too fast, i.e., before their dependencies are properly registered. This explains the sometimes, as on some boots the first modules makes it in time to be ready for the later one. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpZRBfYdzSAa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [debian-ppc] Disable the first apple DOOOONG!!
Hello, On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 01:00:48PM +0200, Kiko Piris wrote: However, as macosx restores the volume everytime you boot it, I have a script called something like /etc/rc.boot/nvsetvol-shutup well, if you *always* want it to start muted and if you also use MacOSX, then simply mute it within MacOSX. Then MacOS starts muted and Linux does as well. In both environments you then simply unmute when needed (or use headpones). This works fine on my ibook (I had exactly the same problem, as I always asked people to turn off the W*** startup sounds they came 'round immediately when I had bought my ibook :-)) Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgp75M0ByjmeQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing (trying to) Sarge on my Power Macintosh 6500.
Hello, On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 01:51:34AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: I'm now itching to get mplayer from the source pointed to by Christian Marillat's page, but it seems that it is only available to those who use unstable. :-( I regularly build them from scratch (with the provided debian/-directory), so all dependencies are proper. I havn't done so on PowerPC for a while, but on alpha and amd64 this usually works properly. If you are interested, I can mail you my script for this. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgp9huMZo90nV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Pre-packaged Debian-kernels, was: Re: Help! Not able to mount FAT filesystems
Hello, On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 01:01:11AM +0800, William XWL wrote: Hmm, okay, just a rant. Actually for me, kernel seems to be the only one thing that i've to compile myself in debian. Well, i do wish someday there could be a more flexible pre-compiled kernel, so as to save time. Well, I guess when you operate a larger set of machines, you have to have an eye on security issues and have to build a set of scripts to automate the process. I've done so only for 2.4 kernels for woody, and there many security issues where fixed in the unstable tree, but only slowly moved into stable (not to speak of requirements of more modern hardware, special security patches (grsec) and such). So yes, the kernel is probably the first thing I replace when setting up a machine with a site specific kernel which gets updated rather frequently (whenever security related patches come in or a new machine which just needs this patch to work properly). And, of course, some things are not meant to be usable (e.g. USB on servers), so each machine class has it (carfully monitored) set of .config-files. Though the source is ususally based on a Debian kernel (don't know for 2.6, but in 2.4 it was no problem to recompile (including extra patches like grsec, which only had a couple conflicts when merging) an unstable kernel on stable.) I know, these processes should be merged into Debian proper, but honestly speaking, when I was doing it, I was glad that all machines/architectures worked and had no resources left to monitor the inclusion into Debian stable (contrary to patches for normal bugs). Still, I like to have the Debian kernels as a basis, so they are very welcome. Greetings Helge P.S. And of course, I don't like initrd on my systems, hence this is removed in the first run. -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpxpzWThjdd0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ibook on debian
Hello, On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 05:39:37PM +0200, Arne Caspari wrote: Did you file bug reports after solving the issues? (I don't see any listed from this email-account, though). I do not think it is usefull to file bug reports to get the iBook-sleep patches work reliably or to solve dependency problems when installing packages from unstable and testing branches to get the latest GNOME to work. Well, how are things to be improved if no proper bugs are filed? Bug-filing is very important, and if accompanied by a patch, then its premium. Some maintainers do not respond, yes, but many are happy to solve the issue, and other users will benefit from this as well. Also I do not think it is required to file bug reports when a single switch of the distribution solves 90% of all bugs. And if you encounter bugs in Ubuntu, you are going to switch to the next distro? I don't mind you finding the distro which serves you best, but IMHO returning proper bug reports, with patches if possible, is the least people can do as a return for such a great free plattform. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpMWmVLEw7yJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Ibook on debian
Hello, On Tue, Jul 26, 2005 at 04:47:27PM +0200, Arne Caspari wrote: I had Debian running for a long time on my iBook and had all kinds of problems which required a lot of googling and hours to solve. Now with Ubuntu, (almost) everything works just fine. Did you file bug reports after solving the issues? (I don't see any listed from this email-account, though). Thanks Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpH3V0LOMy5V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 216.37.55.114 404 not found
Hello, On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 11:25:28AM -0400, F. Heitkamp wrote: For the last two days I attempted to update my PPC Linux and have been getting boatloads of these. 404 Not Found [IP: 216.37.55.114 80] Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main xfonts-75dpi 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4 404 Not Found [IP: 216.37.55.114 80] Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main xfonts-scalable 6.8.2.dfsg.1-4 Did you try a different mirror? Error Loading Explorer.exe You must reinstall Windows. Wrong operating system (probably because Explorer.exe is a i386 binary, not ppc)? Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgppk1z1Fxv1Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 216.37.55.114 404 not found
On Sat, Jul 23, 2005 at 06:59:46PM +0100, George Wright wrote: On Saturday 23 July 2005 18:36, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Error Loading Explorer.exe You must reinstall Windows. Wrong operating system (probably because Explorer.exe is a i386 binary, not ppc)? I think that was meant to be a joke in his signature :) Well, he did not seperate it as a signature (i.e., no -- ) but since it fit well to his problem I took the liberty to comment it (despite probably being a signature joke anyways). Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgp3zjLGvMVTl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Powerbook5,6 German keyboard
Hello Bernhard, On Thu, Jul 14, 2005 at 10:42:52AM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: d) I do not understand enough about this keyboard stuff I published my hack to help others. It is one piece of a puzzle that I know I miss a lot of the big picture. This was the best I could do. Many maintainers (not all, though) are happy if you tell them in a good way what's wrong as this help them to figure out where the problem lays, a good bug description (and maybe a quick hack to fix it) is often enough. Also I at least would first look at the BTS if I have a problem, so this helps others too. Don't understand me wrong, its good that you publish your solution, but if possible, submit it anyway, stating that it is all you can provide (and, of course, if you are willing to test proper solutions later on). I haven't yet tried xorg on my ibook, so I don't know if it'll work with the german keyboard or not. And if it doesn't, I'd still submit it to the X folks (but they already have a picture of my keyboard, which they were happy to get!) and let them tell me (by reassigning) if the problem actually lays somewhere else. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpwGEv3NwDR3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Turning off and hard lockup on older G3 iBook
Hello, On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 08:53:02AM +1000, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Anyone know where I might be able to find an older version of pbuttonsd? I looked in /var/cache/apt/archives/ but some geius ran apt-get autoclean! snapshot.debian.net should carry older versions. Greetings Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpVfz7oJHYXP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Powerbook5,6 German keyboard
Hello, On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 11:09:14AM +0200, Bernhard Reiter wrote: I documented what I did to make my German keyboard behave. It is in http://intevation.de/~bernhard/ppc/powerbook5,6/ Did you base it on my previous work (i.e., from the Debian package)? Note: I have not looked at Jochen Voss' xkb keymap, this was just a quick hack that works for me. http://seehuhn.de/comp/powerbook/#keyboard Can you please submit it to the BTS (at least once xorg hits unstable) to get it include upstream? It would be really nice because then *everyone* can benefit and not everyone would have to do quick hacks. Thanks! Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.ffii.de/ pgpObFLtXOgkY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sound drivers for newer machines: need help
Hello, On Sat, Apr 09, 2005 at 10:31:14AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: If you have a newer machine, that is a machine released on or after 2002, can you please send me the output of: An ibook from spring 2004 (PowerBook6,5) echo `cat /proc/device-tree/model` thirtyto:~# echo `cat /proc/device-tree/model` PowerBook6,5 for i in `find /proc/device-tree -name layout-id -print`; do echo $i hexdump -n4 $i; done If the later returns nothing, it's fine, just tell me. Yep, returns nothing. Hope this helps. Helge -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp3Tm9DDUcHl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation
Hello, On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:32:57PM -0800, Shyamal Prasad wrote: I was using d-i daily build for powerpc (Jan 4, 2005) to install on an Apple Dual G5 (PowerMac7,3). I find that the LVM menu items in the installer do not work in a manner very similar to what is described in this bug report (though this report is for a x86 machine). Basically I cannot create physical volumes (using expert- too) via the menus, and the LV menus then clearly do not work. It seems that the options described in the latest installation guide (6.3.2.2, to use a partition as a PV for LVM) just do not show up! When I was installing my ibook last year, lvm did not work from the menue, because (as I was told) partman does not yet have support for it. So if you feel confident in programming, I guess support for this hin partman is more than welcome. I don't know if there has been any work on this since then, though. On the other hand, I was able to use the shell, create the volume group and the logical volumes. Back in the installer I could then format, mount and install onto them; also a later installer run onto a second partition detected the lvm as well. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpWmI5iNICV0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation
Hello, On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:55:09AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: No, lvm could be added to partman in no time, but Colin Watson voted against this, and rightly so, since he claimed that we should not use a quick hack, but come to a consensus on the way of doing this with both the d-i team and the lvm-config tools (also upstream probably), for future portability issue. Well, I was told differently by a Debian Developer on Linuxtag, who explicitly asked me to look if I could add it (and test it then). My brother (who also owns an ibook) had a look and told me it was not a simple addition, but we did not push this further. Nobody did really find the time to push this, and thus there is no lvm support on powermac (altough there should be no problem on prep and ibm chrp hardware, and i have solution for pegasos too). Well, lvm works nicly. The only trick is to set it up on the command line during the install (i.e., leave the gui for that). There are some minor issues in some tools (#281925 and #287670), but they can be easily worked around during operation. (I have not tried to reduce the size of a LV, though). Ok. The main problem is that there is no LVM flag for mac partition tables, i wonder how usefull that is though. Parted is a bit shaky on this, as i believe it should not really be a partition flag, but a partition type. Neither there is for alpha. I asked the LVM guys back then, and they told me, that the partition type really does not matter, and we've installed lvm since then on several alphas, all using BSD disk labels. I don't know the details of partitions on ppc, but using my alpha experience I also chose an arbitary partition type (sorry, don't know offhand which). So in summary: if it can be added easily, IMHO it should, as lvm definitly eases system management. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpy0bDwPkha5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation
Hello, On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:26:47AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Well, I was told differently by a Debian Developer on Linuxtag, who Who was it ? Martin Michlmayr. Well, lvm works nicly. The only trick is to set it up on the command line during the install (i.e., leave the gui for that). There are some minor issues in some tools (#281925 and #287670), but they can be easily worked around during operation. (I have not tried to reduce the size of a LV, though). Ah, didn't try any of those too, just created the LVM partitions. I don't care strongly enough to pursue this though, so you are welcome to take this on you shoulder and become de facto LVM-on-powerpc maintainer. I will code the parted part of it once a consensus is reached about this with upstream. Please CC me (or debian-powerpc) on any such discussion though This is far beyond my coding power (and my time). Indeed. Please go ahead and fill a bug report against partman, or start the discussion about this with the lvm-tools maintainers. I made an installation report (which prompted above conversation). I can clone it to partman, if you think it is sensible. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgplgn8jJftUl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mixer doesn't work
Hello, On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 01:33:05PM +, Martin Habets wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2005 at 08:43:25PM +0800, William Xuuu wrote: Comparing my config file and yours, the main difference is that most of the items, you've made them built as modules, i, instead, have made them built in the kernel. Can this be the reason? So odd if it's . And, What's your kernel version? Mine is 2.6.9. CONFIG_DMASOUND_PMAC is for the OSS driver. CONFIG_SND_POWERMAC is the ALSA driver. You should not use both, but choose one. Use aumix with the OSS driver, and alsamixer with the ALSA driver. aumix also works with the ALSA-drivers (at least on my ibook G4). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpT3mPzP3s26.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mplayer on console problem
Hello, On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 12:45:02AM +0800, William Xuuu wrote: Hi, Does mplayer support '-vo fbdev2' on linux-ppc? When i try it, 'mplayer -vo fbdev2 *.avi', i get an error as follows. Any ideas? I use directfb which works fine except that I have to type reset after playing to get my cursor back. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpLqqCbpS5Mi.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PowerPC desktop -- asking for trouble?
Hello, On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 12:30:17PM +0100, Jack Malmostoso wrote: One thing that comes to mind is that I may not be able to use windows DLL's for video codecs. Right. Stuff like mplayer codecs and flash player are forbidden. Well, for ppc (and for alpha, as a matter of fact) lots of binary codecs (e.g., realplayer ones, but not the latest) are available for mplayer and friends. Of course, chances are higher that you get a DLL for an x86-based machine, but still pretty good for ppc and alpha. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpUIICkgIHnq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: umlauts once again :)
Hello, On Sun, Dec 26, 2004 at 12:38:33AM +0100, peter plessas wrote: i know this has been dealt with before, but i didn't find any real answers in the list's archive: I have an US keyboard, how can i type umlauts such as: ü ö ä? (except for using kde's kcharselect applet (which means clicking on the desired letter and pasting it to where it's needed?) This is probably better asked on a more general list. In brief: a) Check your favorite editor for possible ways. E.g., in vim I type Crtl-K a to get an ä, or Crtl-K , c to get an ç and so on. b) You can asign a compose key under X, which allows you to press, e.g., Compose a for an ä. c) Some applications (e.g., OpenOffice.org) have built in Char-Tables, usefull if you only need an umlaut once in a while. Hope this helps, and check the docs of your X and your editor! Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp6OOeYmPPZx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Magic for sid changeroot required on ppc?
Hello, On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 05:02:22PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: On Sunday 12 December 2004 15:53, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Hello, I want to set up a sid changeroot on my ibook. I use the command provided in the manual page of debootstrap: [ ... ] P.S. I reported this a bug #285188 but did not yet got a reply. in the bugreport I can see that you're using debootstrap from woody ?! I am on testing. I just checked, IMHO 0.2.45 is the latest version from testing, 0.1.17.7woody1 is the woody version. IIRC you need a newer debootstrap - so, build debootstrap from testing, install it into your woody system, then debootstrap sid. This should work. I do not have a woody system (well, at work, but not on my private machines). If it works, and the info to your bug and please it. Which version of debootstrap are you using? Can you create a sid-changeroot on ppc? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpkwZOVReVp1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Magic for sid changeroot required on ppc?
Hello, ok, I solved it: I mounted the partition with nodev, hence no /dev/null and friends. Now it misses a dependency of pppoeconf on gettext, but this time the woody install worked, so I start from there. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpTsXvNBETE7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Yet Another AirPort Extreme question
Hello, On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 10:05:03PM +0100, ?ukasz Studzi?ski wrote: I was just wondering if we could ask Apple if they can suggest some other than Broadcom-3401 based mini-pci card. Maybe it is possible? It does not matter for me, if it is Apple, or not. I believe mini-pci slot is the same as in other computers. Maybe we would be easily able to put some Prism based card and just be happy? I really wonder if that is possible. I tried swapping with my brother who has an airport (no extrem, no broadcom) and even then the card did not fit (mechanically different design). If you do, let us know, though. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/
Magic for sid changeroot required on ppc?
Hello, I want to set up a sid changeroot on my ibook. I use the command provided in the manual page of debootstrap: env LANG=C debootstrap sid /scr/build/chroot-sid/ http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ It downloads and installs some debs, but always dies with Preparing to replace libreadline4 4.3-15 (using .../libreadline4_4.3-15_powerpc.deb) ... Unpacking replacement libreadline4 ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/bash_3.0-10_powerpc.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/e2fsprogs_1.35-8_powerpc.deb W: Failure while unpacking required packages. This will be attempted up to five times. umount: /scr/build/chroot-sid/dev/pts: not found umount: /scr/build/chroot-sid/dev/shm: not found umount: /scr/build/chroot-sid/proc/bus/usb: not mounted The same happens if I try to create a woody changeroot. Is there some additional magic required on ppc? Or is there another way to quickly set up a changeroot? Thanks Helge P.S. I reported this a bug #285188 but did not yet got a reply. -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpu2xeVG0vCj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2 questions.
Hello, On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 10:27:11AM +0100, Björn Johansson wrote: What keystrokes do I press to get to text console from the X-server? Strg-Alt-Fn-1 for the first ...-2 for the second ... Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp3CTNZe1hYH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re : Re : 64bit PPC and Debian
Hello Grave, On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 07:57:22AM +, grave wrote: Does this include the modem? (The docs do not mention a serial port on the dual G5 machines). I used all the G5 machines on pure ethernet, there isn't any serial output on the powermac (as far as I know) and one on the Xserve used as serial console... Thanks. I guess I have to find out then if the modem will work under linux, because currently that's my day-to-day network connectivity at home. Do you by chance now if there is technical documentation about the modem available somewhere? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/
Re: Re : 64bit PPC and Debian
Hello grave, On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:16:51AM +, grave wrote: As far as I know, debian doesn't already suport ppc64 but it defenitly run on G5 machines. I have here a dual G5 2GHz running perfectly (except sound) and I had also two Xserve G5 running a few days aga Does this include the modem? (The docs do not mention a serial port on the dual G5 machines). Hope it will help... Yes, thanks. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpiIINxEA52e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 64bit PPC and Debian
Hello, On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:03:03AM +0100, Jens Schmalzing wrote: Debian is only 32bit on all PPC machines, correct? Correct. But this will very likely change in the future. Great. A bi-arch approach or a pure 64bit? Debian will not even run on the G5 MAC? That's not true. I run Debian on a G5 myself. Ok, then the web page is wrong. Is there some hardware compatibility list (or where is the appropriate place to ask)? I'd especially like to add SCSI and a TV card to the machine. Thanks Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpypxWZ6t9kH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 64bit PPC and Debian
Hello Sven, On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 12:28:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:58:22AM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Hello, my current 64bit machine is reaching EOL and I am looking for a replacement. One option I seriously consider is using the current 64bit machines from Apple. One question, what are you going to do with the old EOLfed machine ? My alpha will stay. But it shows some strange segmentation faults and I am afraid it will not live very much. So I want to quickly move and keep it for maintaining aboot, if possible. I am currently trying to get d-i to work with real 64bit kernels, altough cross compiled ones. This would still install mostly the 32bit userland though, and i am not sure it will really work quickly, but once sarge is out of the door, we will hopefully quickly have a better chance to get things working. Great. Unfortunately the Apple-machines look a little space constraint, and I know how quickly add-on cards and additional drives pile up, so I am still deciding. (And I figured the IBM Power-machines are quite a bit beyond my budget). Thanks for your work Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpLm3lOe4WLz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 64bit PPC and Debian
Hello Sven, On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 03:56:04PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Great. Unfortunately the Apple-machines look a little space constraint, and I know how quickly add-on cards and additional drives pile up, so I am still deciding. (And I figured the IBM Power-machines are quite a bit beyond my budget). euh, i was under the impression it is huge and roomy, but maybe i am wrong. I guess I ought to visit the local Apple store next week. Looking at the pictures on the apple pages I did think I could add much into it. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp3pZ2rOyAwO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: benh-kernel build error
Hello, On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 10:06:17PM +0200, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: What is a non-Linus kernel? OS X kernels ... ?? Thanks in anticipation Kernel trees maintained by someone else, not Linus or the person Linus appointed to do so (e.g., Marcello for 2.4). As I understand, PPC used to have their own trees, one of the from Ben. They are no longer necessary for 2.6, though, as Linus himself uses a PPC based machine now. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpEpZq845GH4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: benh-kernel build error
Hello, On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 03:26:49PM +0200, Christian Hille wrote: I'm trying to build my own 2.4.25-benh kernel with make-kpkg but it doesn't works. Here is the rest of the error message: Building non-Debian (and non-Linus) Kernels is not supported by make-kpkg (I ran into this a while ago, search the archives), and this is essentially what I've been told after reporting this as a bug against make-kpkg. Since the Debian Kernels are actually based on the benh-series, I strongly suggest using the Debian sources. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpMdjUs88itU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140
Hello, On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 11:28:46AM +0900, Jerome Walter wrote: Helge, did you have had more success than me on your RS/6000 ? If i succeed in installing Debian on this machine, i will have another PPC (don't know what's inside) to install, more RS/6000-like, so all the feedbacks are welcome. I am now able to use open firmware, so I can set various variables and get the kernel from the tftp-server. But nothing besides it. Also my machine claims to be a CHRP, not a prep. Well. Do you know how to set the flags for the kernel, i.e. console=ttyS0,9600 ? Right now, I am unable to pass them. I read, that setenv boot-file flags would do this (i.e., flags=console=ttyS0,9600) but this variable gets overridden during the tftp-transmission. So the status is in essence: Same as before, but from OF. When I find time, I continue trying. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpuwYOyDqG6K.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XF86Config for a 14 iBook G4
Hello, On Thu, Jun 24, 2004 at 04:25:13AM +0100, Sam Halliday wrote: i got this iBook this week... surely somebody else must have X up and running on a 1GHz G4 iBook with the Radeon Mobility 9200 M9+ graphics card! in case it is not solved yet, using the latest 2.6.6 from Debian, making sure video=ofonly is removed in yaboot.conf and using Michel Dänzers X-build X works on this chipset/ibook. Mail me in private if you still have trouble. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpTnYKR8tgSO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140
Hello, On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 11:28:46AM +0900, Jerome Walter wrote: Helge, did you have had more success than me on your RS/6000 ? If i succeed in installing Debian on this machine, i will have another PPC (don't know what's inside) to install, more RS/6000-like, so all the feedbacks are welcome. From OF prompt, I could not achive anything. From the SMS (graphical) I set netbooting and off I went. On the graphics display (IBM GXT 250P/255P) I see the following: BOOTP S = 1 R = 1 FILE: /scr/tftpboot/vmlinux-prep.initrd Load Addr=0x600 Max File Size=0x1000 Packet Count = 2700 On status number display: F77 Is this ok? Which programs are best suited for serial console, or is there a good howto? The most HOWTOs I read simply say point your terminal I tried both 2.4 and 2.6 from Svens repository, downloaded this morning. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpUgOVRUaTY3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140
Hello, On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 03:18:57PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Try minicom. I did this. I get: Welcome to minicom 1.83.1 OPTIONS: History Buffer, F-key Macros, Search History Buffer, I18n Compiled on Nov 21 2001, 00:35:58. Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys I went through the menus, but I could not get anything out. If I find time, I try later this week; maybe I first follow one of those HOWTOS to see if I can get serial working? Thanks for you help so far. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpuBH6IvIvIF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140
Hello, On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 05:03:37PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Great. I will try this, probably Tuesday. Is there some HOWTO/docu for netbooting d-i? (Sorry if something obvious exists, I am on dial-in right now). I now read http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html/olh_ppc_netboot.html http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/netboot.html http://www.soziologie.ch/users/steinlin/d-i/ So I would set up a bootp-server, and a tftp-server and would drop all kernel releated files into the latter, skipping yaboot.conf. Is this correct? Next I would run from OF boot network root=/... console=... What would I place into root? Also am I strictly limited to serial console? (i.e., is it possible to have some kind of framebuffer after booting for local keyboard based access?) Thanks! Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpbuRNIEWXdy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140
Hallo Sven, On Sun, Jul 11, 2004 at 09:30:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Jul 10, 2004 at 07:00:21PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Hello, for helping d-i I got an 43p-140 (IBM RS/6000). Since there are no specific install instructions on http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html Cool, ... (To your other mail): Yes, I want to do it with d-i, especially since I want to look at a specific part (if possible). Ah, this is a PReP machine, very fine then. It won't naturally not boot yaboot, but you should try netbooting : http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/netboot/vmlinuz-prep.initrd Great. I will try this, probably Tuesday. Is there some HOWTO/docu for netbooting d-i? (Sorry if something obvious exists, I am on dial-in right now). Or even the 2.6 kernel when it will become available (tomorrow i think, but i can build you a special one) : http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/netboot/vmlinuz-prep.initrd If you think a special one works better, then simply tell me when it is ready. The tutorial from Rolf Brudeseth mentioned on the ports page seems to be gone. Well, feel free to contribute to the debian-installer installation manual a prep specific part, i would help you as best i can on this. Sure, I will provide all the details I needed to the appropriate author of the section (you?). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgp36OoGfVVES.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: iBookG4 pseudo-sleep / 2.6.3 problems
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 09:33:01PM +, Joerg Sommer wrote: I experienced the same problem at me with a 2.6.6 kernel. If the lid is closed a unknown period the ibook powers off. The G4 doesn't support sleep-mode currently so the backgroud light is only switched off. But maybe there is a piece hardware which powers off the iBook if the lid is close too long. I have also the presumption that this only happens if it runs with battery, but I'm not sure. Does anyone else experienced this? Is there a solution? Yes, I had that once too. Shortly closing the lid does no harm, but a few minutes shut it down. Recent iBook G4 (1 Mhz), Bens 2.4.25, PowerBook6,5. I have not experimented further on this. And yes, this was on battery. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpdIujIBcHLm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Booting installer on RS/6000 43p-140
Hello, for helping d-i I got an 43p-140 (IBM RS/6000). Since there are no specific install instructions on http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.powerpc/index.html I used http://www.solinno.co.uk/7043-140/getstarted.php I get to the open firmware prompt, and do setenv load-base 100 and setenv real-base c0 Both commands suceed. Current firmware is TIG01150 (which should be sufficient, according to above page). Now the next command whould be boot cdrom: After this, the cdrom is briefly accessed, and then nothing. The screen does not change. Doing it the Apple style, i.e. boot cd:,\install\yaboot simply yields an ok, though. Is it possible, to boot d-i on this prep-machine? And if so, which would be the proper command? The tutorial from Rolf Brudeseth mentioned on the ports page seems to be gone. Thanks. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpnxmvQ4FPyA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FAQ?
Hello, On Wed, Jun 23, 2004 at 10:51:26PM +0100, Sam Halliday wrote: i haven't installed X yet. i choose (in kbdconfig) mac / Unknown / British / Standard / iBook2 i also choose mac / Unknown / British / Standard / Standard but it was s fscked up i needed to use the debian installer (btw... what about a rescue option??) to copy over the .old keymap. so, conclusion is... the keymap is fubar OR i have a keyboard which hasn't been mapped yet (unlikely) from some googling, the way debian is interpreting my keyoard is as if it looked like this: http://store1.yimg.com/I/lovemacs_1790_40211439 but it is not like that, and i cannot find an image on google. some major differences are that i have the tilde/comment key beside the left shift (not top left) and in the top left i have a plusminus/chapter key. i also have pound sterling (£) as the shift key 3 and hash (#) as the alt gr key 3 (although it is not marked on the keyboard). There are HOWTOS on installing Debian on iBooks. I don't remember which one, but at least one described how to set up you own keymap. In this case, it was for a german one, but the principle is the same. Please, when you have a sufficiently working one, submit it as a bug report (I think it was console-common). I did this for the german variant, and on the next install keyboard was working from the beginning. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpfptuTOJrt8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Newbie ibook sarge install
Hello, On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 07:21:22PM +0200, Sébastien FRANÇOIS wrote: I think it would be nice to have a central place to find and store information. Definitely, some time ago we had talked on irc to insert informations about G4s (not ibooks) in the howto and to publish that on the debian ppc page Is there a simple manner to insert all the howto content into the wiki ? Should I drop the howto ? It can probably be useful but will get out of sync' with the wiki very quickly Please remember to also file the appropriate bugs, so that things do not get problems in the first place. Its much better if people simply install and run, instead of having to read (lots of) HOWTOs to get their machine running properly. Thanks Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpWprFdC0nCl.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Touching vmlinux.coff, was Re: Current benh-kernel fails to boot (after clock) on iBook G4
Hello Sven, On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 07:25:43PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ok. So I should ask Benjamin Herrenschmid to fix this and close the Debian bug, right? Yep. Let me check if the fix is already in the debian package, so you can also directly send him a patch. That said, i have some doubt about the longevity of the 2.4 -benh tree, seeing as there seem to be no new activity there since february. I already sent Ben a patch about a config help option which was miswritten. So please send me the patch, so I can forward it to Ben, and then I'll close the Bug in the Debian BTS with the explanation given to me by you. And you were hit by the real problem of debian on ppc, everyone writing howtos and such to work aroudn problems, instead of working on fixing the problems, or even filling bugs. That is why I filed the bug about kernel-package, because I (wrongly) thought the error to lay there. That is the downside of reporting bugs, sometimes you hit the wrong package. To state this right here: I really try to locate bugs and fill bug reports; if possible with patches (see also below). I currently have 60something open(!) bugs in the Debian BTS, many concerned with 64bit issues (my primary platform is alpha), and much more already closed (some maintainer are really magnificent!). As another example I filed a bug about an suboptimal keyboard layout on my german iBook, and it was suprisingly fast included in the appropriate package (Mainly Apple - AltGr). So this HOWTO step won't be necessary for future users. One less, so to speak. The powerpc 2.4 debian kernel has been following the benh tree since 2.4.24 or so. I'll try to mail some of the HOWTO maintainers, that they should change that paragraph to recomend using Debian kernels. The above probably obsolet recomendations. But what if someone else with less knowledge has the same needs as you ? This one you let in the dark. The correct way of solving this, would be to fill a bug report against the appropriate debian package, saying what you need which is not provided by it. That said, i build mostly _all_ modules, so maybe you need to apply a patch anyway or something ? You are right, of course. This is what I try to do. But e.g. being on a laptop I needed an encrypted filesystem, and yes, it did *not* work with the crypto-modules in the kernel. I got the aes-kernel-module packages, build them and it worked. But I don't know where the error is -- did I simply make some mistake? Also I don't know how to make this more easy, i.e. which package could provide more automation. So maybe there is an error in the kernel modules. I can file a bug report. My machine is not currently fully supported by Debian (e.g. my radeon card is too new), so thats why I try to switch to 2.6 right now. You have a radeon X800 or something such ? Again, how do you expect us to change that if you don't fill bug reports ? And just for the record, i came back from almost a month of offlineness, and it is only by cheer luck that i saw this email out of the 1000 or so unread debian-powerpc mails, so a bug report is always better than a post on debian-ppc. You can CC the list if you feel it usefull though if you want. I can dig out the exact model later. I did notice this error on the ppc-list. The installer-page does not mention that people should sent in installer reports for ppc (it did a while ago, but now it does not do so anymore for most archs). I asked on the list, if I should file one, but no one answered, so I thought this was not needed. I think the problem Collin fixed was that if the video=ofonly option is used during installs, it is carried over to the yaboot.conf for later use. My radeon is currently not supported in 2.4 framebuffer (and hence X, as I understand), that's why I switch to 2.6. I still have the patches to get that corrected for 2.6.6, and I am willing to file this as a bug, when I know it works. But since I have almost no devices right now (and probably have to set up udev), I cannot say for certain that this patches work as expected. Also I understood that Ben gets them included in the next kernel. So simply put: I file bugs when I know on which side of the keyboard the bug is and which package I can file it against. Are installation reports still requested on ppc? Should I file that radeon problem against 2.4-packages of Debian? Currently I have no devices (but the grey X seems to work) and I start reading about udev which I probably will need. If I run into deadlocks here, I'll return and ask for help. Please try out Jens's 2.6.6 kernel package and help out improving it, instead of doing it all yourself in the true debian-ppc howto writer way. Ok. I will. This would be kernel-source-2.6.6 together with kernel-patch-powerpc-2.6.6 right? Thanks Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED
Touching vmlinux.coff, was Re: Current benh-kernel fails to boot (after clock) on iBook G4
Hello, On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 05:54:04PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, May 08, 2004 at 06:21:25PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Hello, I am new to PPC, so please excuse if these are FAQs, but I searched the archive and could not find the answers. I use a new iBook G4. I got the latest benh-kernel by rsync and build the kernel using make-kpkg. As described in the archive, I had to touch arch/ppc/boot/images/vmlinux.coff and arch/ppc/boot/images/vmlinux.coff-2.4.25-ben1 Notice that the debian powerpc kernel package use exactly the same source tree as what you are using. Well, as I don't know much yet of ppc, this might be an error on my side, but I seem to not be the only one (as I got the fix from the archives). I did not have that problem on 2.6.6. In both cases, the kernels seem to work (in 2.6 I have other problems, but as I am new to 2.6 as well, this is *definitly* on my side). I reported this as bug #247850, so if you are in the position to help that would be greatly appreciated. If I should do tests, or if my local configuration is broken, then please point me to the proper source, and maybe a check could be added. A brief (!) googeling did not reveal the origin/reason of these *coff*-files, except that it is some legacy mechanism on ppc. Thanks! Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgplDVbaxl8C1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Touching vmlinux.coff, was Re: Current benh-kernel fails to boot (after clock) on iBook G4
Hello Sven, On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 06:22:42PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: I reported this as bug #247850, so if you are in the position to help Against which package ? Against kernel-package, as this contains the make-kpkg I used (as recommend by the ibook guides out there). Ah, i believe those .coff files are used on some older pmacs to boot directly from the OpenFirmware, without using yaboot or a similar boot loader. I believe that the problem should have been fixed in the debian powerpc patch, not sure though. This would explain why a pristine kernel is affected while Debian provided are not. Greetings Helge P.S. Since there are many subtle details when setting this machine up properly, I am still on my way, but I try to figure out bugs if I can and report them so future people will have even less trouble. Unfortuntely providing patches on this architecture is too early for me :-(( -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpCOWxT6kttL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Touching vmlinux.coff, was Re: Current benh-kernel fails to boot (after clock) on iBook G4
Hello Sven, On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 06:47:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Well, this is not a bug against kernel-package, at least i belive that from a cursory examination, but a bug in whatever kernel-source you are using. snip Nope, since the kernel-image-2.4.25-powerpc-pmac contains both the .coff and the elf vmlinux. I believe this is a bug in the -benh snapshot you are using, a bug i probably fixed a few month ago, and is present in the package. Ok. So I should ask Benjamin Herrenschmid to fix this and close the Debian bug, right? I would recomend you install kernel-source-2.4.25, and apply the patch in kernel-patch-2.4.25-powerpc to it, and you should not have this problem. Ok. I just followed the Debian-on-ibook guides out their and every single source said to recompile the kernel using the benh-tree, so that's what I did. P.S. Since there are many subtle details when setting this machine up properly, I am still on my way, but I try to figure out bugs if I can and report them so future people will have even less trouble. Unfortuntely providing patches on this architecture is too early for me :-(( Well, i don't know what you are trying to do, but you should be able to just download the beta4 debian-installer (either one of the CD isos would probably do) and install your box with that. No need for selfcompiling any kernel or something. I did use the beta4-Installer, and reported to this lists the obstacles I had (well, learned more about ppc). I think one of them was fixed already by Colin Watson. Since I adjust the kernels always, I recompiled (and I needed lvm, some crypto-modules). I did not try to stick with the Debian provided, because of the above recomendations. My machine is not currently fully supported by Debian (e.g. my radeon card is too new), so thats why I try to switch to 2.6 right now. Currently I have no devices (but the grey X seems to work) and I start reading about udev which I probably will need. If I run into deadlocks here, I'll return and ask for help. Thanks for your help. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpd3jIyL3mg5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X support on 2004 ibook (radeon 9200)
Hello Carlos, On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 03:35:33PM +0200, Carlos Perelló Marín wrote: is 2.6 the preferred/only way to run on this new ibooks? I ask because lvm and crypto-loop just runs nicely, and at least on this front 2.6 is quite different. lvm works without changes with 2.6 if you install lvm2, my server has LVM and I did nothing to migrate from 2.4 to 2.6, just install the lvm2 package. Thank you. I found that out by accident already (got lvm2 to read the docs and booted 2.6 by accident a little later). Do you have experience the crypto-loop on 2.6 as well? (I guess I will have to build the aes modules as for 2.4). Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpjJpovkwKz2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X problem on ibook G4
Hello, On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 07:01:10PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote: Sorry, but CRTC_H_CUTOFF_ACTIVE_EN is also undefined I took the values from http://www.mail-archive.com/directfb-dev@directfb.org/msg02436/radeonfb-IGP-linux-2.6.4.patch and the kernel builds. But since all (?) modules show unresolved symbols and I first have to learn how to convert lvm1, I havn't sucessfully booted yet. It boots up fine and X is runing, though currently something is not yet working (probably because I have no previous 2.6 experience). But since I can switch to and from X and everything is visually fine, I assume that it works now. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgptphBHNzlUL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Current benh-kernel fails to boot (after clock) on iBook G4
Hello Ben, On Mon, May 10, 2004 at 07:27:32PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: I don't think the defconfig is specific to ppc, though we do have a very broad range of different machines to deal with, unlike x86. My primary platform (alpha) does have it neither :-(( Btw. I found at least one kernel help text a little confusing. Are you the right person to send this to? Yes. Patches welcome ;) Ok, I attached it. I don't know if it is factually correct, but I know I have a recent G4 and do need this option (and I don't have a visible ADB port). Maybe also the text for the real time clock should state that it must not even be present as module (or maybe this is a Debian specific bug in the startup scripts?). Thanks for providing this kernel tree. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ --- Configure.help.orig 2004-02-21 08:25:37.0 +0100 +++ Configure.help 2004-05-21 17:19:38.0 +0200 @@ -18315,6 +18315,10 @@ Blue and White G3, you probably want to say Y here. Otherwise say N. + If you said Y to CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBDEV above you + have to also have to say Y here, even if you are using a later + Macintosh or have no visible ADB port. + Support for CUDA based PowerMacs CONFIG_ADB_CUDA This provides support for CUDA based Power Macintosh systems. This pgp00ktMHnugy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X support on 2004 ibook (radeon 9200)
Hello, On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 04:13:22PM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: Apply this patch to 2.6.6 to get radeonfb to not flicker on this newer model. is 2.6 the preferred/only way to run on this new ibooks? I ask because lvm and crypto-loop just runs nicely, and at least on this front 2.6 is quite different. Thanks Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpnfD0cJ61aR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: X problem on ibook G4
Hello, On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 12:35:50PM +0200, Pierre Evenou wrote: Selon Colin LEROY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try to define them in include/video/radeon.h this way: #define GRPH2_BUFFER_CNTL0x03f0 #define NB_TOM 0x15c Here's a real patch in case it would help. -- Colin Sorry, but CRTC_H_CUTOFF_ACTIVE_EN is also undefined I took the values from http://www.mail-archive.com/directfb-dev@directfb.org/msg02436/radeonfb-IGP-linux-2.6.4.patch and the kernel builds. But since all (?) modules show unresolved symbols and I first have to learn how to convert lvm1, I havn't sucessfully booted yet. Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpUJCCK5ZauG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Refresh rates for ibook G4 (Radeon 9200 (M9+))
Hello, I try to get X (Michel Dänzers DRI-trunk, as suggested by ibook install manuals) running on my iBook G4. I (need to) boot with video=ofonly, otherwiese (e.g. video=radeonfb) I get black running stripes over the text console. Now I try to configure X. I got the drivers from Michel Dänzer, and installed them. I am unsure, what I should enter for the sync rates: HorizSync 40-50 VertRefresh 60 Option DPMS After reading around, this seems to be ignored/unimportant? The device section looks now: Section Device Identifier Standardgrafikkarte Driver radeon Option UseFBDev Option DRIReinit BusID PCI:0:16:0 EndSection Starting X, I see stripes running over the screen, much like wrong refresh (or wrong resolution) on a CRT. When I kill X, I have nice graphical effects (looks like an colourful implosion) and no text console anymore. In the server log I see: (II) Setting vga for screen 0. (II) RADEON(0): MMIO registers at 0x9000 (II) Loading sub module vgahw (II) LoadModule: vgahw (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/libvgahw.a (II) Module vgahw: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.3.99.12, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (II) RADEON(0): vgaHWGetIOBase: hwp-IOBase is 0x03b0, hwp-PIOOffset is 0x (II) RADEON(0): PCI bus 0 card 16 func 0 (**) RADEON(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (II) RADEON(0): Pixel depth = 16 bits stored in 2 bytes (16 bpp pixmaps) (==) RADEON(0): Default visual is TrueColor (**) RADEON(0): Option DRIReinit (**) RADEON(0): Option UseFBDev (==) RADEON(0): RGB weight 565 (II) RADEON(0): Using 6 bits per RGB (8 bit DAC) (II) Loading sub module fbdevhw (II) LoadModule: fbdevhw (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/linux/libfbdevhw.a (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.3.99.12, module version = 0.0.2 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.7 (WW) open /dev/fb2: No such device (WW) open /dev/fb3: No such device (WW) open /dev/fb4: No such device (WW) open /dev/fb5: No such device (WW) open /dev/fb6: No such device (WW) open /dev/fb7: No such device (EE) RADEON(0): Failed to open framebuffer device, consult warnings and/or errors above for possible reasons (you may have to look at the server log to see warnings) (WW) RADEON(0): fbdevHWInit failed, not using framebuffer device (II) Loading sub module int10 (II) LoadModule: int10 (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/libint10.a (II) RADEON(0): initializing int10 (II) RADEON(0): No legacy BIOS found -- trying PCI (EE) RADEON(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (5) (--) RADEON(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon Mobility 9200 (M9+) 5C63 (AGP) (ChipID = 0x5c63) (--) RADEON(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x9800 (--) RADEON(0): BIOS at 0x9002 (--) RADEON(0): VideoRAM: 32768 kByte (64 bit DDR SDRAM) (II) RADEON(0): AGP card detected /dev/fb0 - /dev/fb7 do exist and are character devices. The permissions look fine to me. Suggestions or pointers to the right FAQ are much appreciated. Thanks! Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpuNZWBN06xc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: problem with open firmware
Hello, On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 04:46:34PM +0200, gerse wrote: I have problem with open firmware, when installing debian. At which stage are you: do you try to boot the CD, or are you already trying to boot into the installed system? Is this the new debian-installer? When I give the command: boot hd:3,yaboot I receive this output: hd:3,yaboot unknown word Are you sure that partition is correct? Greetings Helge -- Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferredgpg-key: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software libre: http://www.freepatents.org/ pgpJLeP2WF66x.pgp Description: PGP signature
