special sybols on German Mac Pro Keybord
With my G4 Cube I got the USB 'Apple Pro Keyboard' with german keycaps. I don't see how to manage typing several important symbols in the Linux environment (for the MacOSes I could detect them). I am only using the console up to now. the symbol for 'pipe' -- | the symbol for 'at' -- @ the 'backslash-- \ I am writing this mail message on my PC, that's why I can type these sybols. What can I do if not putting that Apple keyboard away? But if so, which apple compatible keybord could be the alternative under Linux? By the way, it's not very comfortable for me typing on it - too noisy above all. Karl-Heinz
Re: G4 Cube FWUpdate -->boot fiasco
Quoting Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> it sounds like the nvram is corrupted, this is not normal behavior
> regardless of a linux installation.
>
> shut it down, and boot it cold while holding down command option p r
> keep them down until it reboots itself 3 or more times. this should
> reset the nvram to sane defaults, and if your bootstrap partition is
> first it should boot into debian. if you still have difficulty with
> the debian bootloader i recommend you check that your using the
> current yaboot package in potato, and rerun mkofboot -f. i highly
> recommend you get the yaboot package from woody and install that
> however, its more reliable. remember you MUST rerun ybin or mkofboot -f
> after upgrading the yaboot package, the active bootlaoder is NOT
> upgraded until you do.
Thank you very, very much for your help.
I'll try the rebooting torture tomorrow.
Since Monday I am completely in 'unstable' and with your tips to me and
the others for the last 2-3 hours I again was able to boot into Debian
via the OFW.
The first thing I did was to apt-get the 2.2.19 kernel-image.
Q refering to that: what is with that 'quik.conf' and 'quikconfig' for
NewWorld machines. Does it really write a boot block?
I can't believe that it has any function. It had no active entries in
the juvenile install configuration! Or what is the corresponding
thing to 'lilo' on i386 platform?
That leads me to the Q of how compiling a kernel for PPC:
I succeeded on Monday in: make dep clean zImage modules modules_install
('b'zImage is not supported by the Makefile; why? - is there something
corresponding? Or does the 'better' PPC hardware not urge to such
measures)
But what's next? Corresponding to 'make bzlilo' or 'make bzdisk'?
How do you activate a boot block overtaking the new kernel file?
Is it sufficent to cp System.map and new-built kernel file to /boot/...
and linking /vmlinux to it?
Commandig mkofboot and/or ybin after that?
I need some information at this point
Thanks in advance,
Karl-Heinz
>
> --
> Ethan Benson
> http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/
G4 Cube FWUpdate -->boot fiasco
Hello, I'm new to this group and to the ppc/apple hardware. With Debian I have experiences for several years ... on the i386 platform. In Mid-May I bought a G4 Cube. In general: it is the the 'new' (for me) hardware I have difficulties with. After some fiddling with MacOS and MacOSX on my Cube I decided to put 'my' beloved Debian additionally on the HDD. This decision resulted in a three-system boot configuration, booting Debian as default :-) With the G4 Cube having a so-called NewWorld PowerMac, I achieved the multi-booting by a Apple_Bootstrap partition activated by ybin and /etc/yaboot.conf. A nice thing I found by access was booting with the 'Option' key which also in a kind of GUI showed a Linux(penguin) boot icon choosable by mouse (plus a bootable CD if inserted). All this is lost now! For I did the newest "recommended" 'G4 Cube FWUpdate' version 4.1.8 I did it having tested the additional RAM before. I had not thought of it damaging completely the boot configuration, even the boot GUI apple-feature. The new situation: 1) Booting into OpenFirmware now still shows the linux entry but it doesn't boot Debian any more. 2) Booting with the 'Option' key pressed now flickers up the boot 'GUI' for a short moment. In it only the boot volume choosed in one of the MacOSes can be seen. Then I get an OpenFirmware prompt. There I only see the possibility typing 'boot mac-os' to get a system. 3) Additionaly now I haven't any possibility to boot from a CD. Neither pressing 'c' nor with the Option key. What can I do get a boot status similar to that before the RomUpdate? Thanks a lot for hints. Karl-Heinz
Re: Install on 466 MHz G4?
Quoting Mark K. Gardner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > mkofboot --boot /dev/hda9 -m /usr/lib/yaboot/ofboot --root \ > /dev/hda11 --partition 11 Additional directly after this step I did a 'ybin -v' This command -I think- wrote some information from the /etc/yaboot.conf into the 'Apple_Bootstrap' partition. Because of the verbosity option I got the information that 'yabin' wrote some kind of hfs filesystem to the bootstrap. After this process booting my G4 Cube with the option key showed the HDD icon with the penguin. before I did the OFWUpdate :-(( > 0> boot hd:9,yaboot This -for me- unknown command perhaps will help me a bit further in my present booting problems Bye, Karl-Heinz
Re: G4 Cube FWUpdate -->boot fiasco
Quoting Ethan Benson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 04:18:00AM +0200, Karl-Heinz Haag wrote: > > if you have a newworld your best way to fix that right now is: > > apt-get --purge remove quik okay > you should use make-kpkg from the kernel-package to build a kernel > .deb its much simpler and straighforward then all of this. I'll do so. I suppose this home-brewn kernel image will not ask whether activating a boot block with 'quik' as the image did I fetched with apt-get yesterday... > > How do you activate a boot block overtaking the new kernel file? > > Is it sufficent to cp System.map and new-built kernel file to /boot/... > > and linking /vmlinux to it? > > yes, but kernel-package makes this eaiser. > > > Commandig mkofboot and/or ybin after that? > update /etc/yaboot.conf and rerun ybin. just like you would do on x86 > with lilo. All clear to me so far. Next question: Creating a boot 'fallback' to the new kernel? On i386 you can stop the lilo bootup by pressing the 'shift' key, and 'Tab' shows boot alternatives you created in /etc/lilo.conf. With this you can boot different Linux kernel images and other OS on the HDD. How enabling to boot the new kernel by default and -by choice- elder ones as well? The new one could be broken or bad configured My situation now is that I'm booting into Debian via OF: boot hd:9,yaboot Where can I find some stuff to read about that besides man yaboot/ybin? Karl-Heinz
keymap in X
Successes on my newworld G4 Cube -Rage128:
-Debian again boots by default
-console works now with the right "german" console-maps.
(as symbols I also now can type \,@,~,|,{[]} )
-I also got X working with xserver-xfree version 4.0.3-3
With 'startx' I can start icewm as the default wm.
But
Working on X is not very useful.
Because, what and where I type in the X environment -be it into xterms
or somewhere else- I only get weird characters.
I.e. I don't get typed the signs that I press on the keybord.
Even pressing 'Enter' gives a comma sign on the screen.
How to get the right (german) ?keymap? in X?
Perhaps it is useful to give the few lines of my
XF86Config-4 refering to the Input devices.
->8
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbdRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbdModel" "macintosh"
Option "XkbdLayout" "de"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
EndSection
->8---
Thanks again for your help.
Karl-Heinz
X and console with "Apple Pro Mouse"
With my newworld Cube G4 I got an optical "Apple Pro Mouse" on USB. The Cube has an ATI Rage128. 3 Questions: 1. Is it possible to use the gpm for the console? With which configuration? 2. How is it possible to emulate the second and third mouse key in X with this "one-key" Apple Mouse? 3. If I have configured gpm for this mouse, are there any known conflicts/interferences with the X-configuration for the mouse? Thanks, Karl-Heinz
Re: keymap in X
Quoting Michel Dänzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Karl-Heinz Haag wrote: > > > Section "InputDevice" > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > Driver "keyboard" > > Option "CoreKeyboard" > > Option "XkbdRules" "xfree86" > > Option "XkbdModel" "macintosh" > > Option "XkbdLayout" "de" > > EndSection > > For one, there are typos here - should be 'Xkb...', not 'Xkbd...' . You were quite right - the biggest problem is solved now! What remains to solve is the 'emulation' of 2nd and 3rd mousekey in X and the 2nd key working for gpm. If you don't like to explain yourself, please give me a tip/link where to search... Thanks, Karl-Heinz
tripwire & freeswan in debian-ppc
I want to use tripwire-2.3.?? and freeswan also on the macppc platform within Debian. Do you see possibilities for realizing that? In Debian-PPC there are no packages+sources for these two programs. In the original tripwire sources I noticed that the Makefile only has targets for i386 and sparc and it doesn't compile correctly on my G4 with Debian. Bye, Karl-Heinz
Re: tomcat / apache-mod
Quoting Damien GUIHAL ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I'd like to know if anyone has build the ppc version of the libapache-mod-jk, > which is tomcat plugger into apache, for servlet developpement. It appears > that > it exists only for ix86, is it too difficult to buils on other platforms ? I can tell you by experience that it is also 'too difficult' on the i386 platform in Debian ;-( After some period of frustration with the Debian packages you mention I switched to a 'handmade solution' with tomcat for the servlet development servers in my company. That was in April this year. It is a lot easier to implement and configure it by yourself. For your support the Tomcat FAQ's, lists and documents are full of enlightments and solutuions for any problem you will have to deal with. In all, mangling apache-jserv + cocoon mid last year was the more difficult task for me. Bye, Karl-Heinz
Sound on G4 Cube
*sound on/with G4 Cube* How to configure? Apples tech-information only tells: "Sound card 16-Bit -PCI- 44.1 KHz stereo" and "Audio Output -- Sound card -PCI- integrated" Which hardware is this? Is kernel 2.2.19 sufficient? Which modules do I need to compile? Is there something special about the order to load these modules? Thanks, Karl-Heinz
tripwire for ppc (was: tripwire & freeswan in debian-ppc)
Quoting Michael Schmitz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I want to use tripwire-2.3.?? and freeswan also on the macppc platform > > within Debian. > > > > Do you see possibilities for realizing that? > > Yep. Build it from source. You'll need to have a close look at the source > for that, That's too complicated for me alone :( Not beeing a C developer. Did someone succeed in compiling tripwire for ppc from source? > > In Debian-PPC there are no packages+sources for these two programs. > > Look in non-US. That is what I did first :) I looked it up in testing/non-US and unstable/non-US. "E: Package tripwire has no installation candidate" It is only there for i386. If there is no solution with tripwire I believe I have to choose 'aide', of which I heard the first time today in irc. For aide there is a 'candidate' for ppc. Ciao, Karl-Heinz
how play MCDs on Cube G4
Hello all, I've grabbed the list but did not find a working solution for playing music CDs with my cube G4. System: Cube G4 450 Debian Woody 3.0 kernel-image-2.4.18-newpmac lsmod shows loaded modules: soundcore audio What's working: mpg123 plays mp3 files aumix works for volume, bass, treble Half working: xmms can be watched start playing the MCD But: there is no sound to hear What's not working: command music cdplayers like workbone, cdcd: no sound I would prefer workbone on Linux-console, but I see no way to activate the numblock in a way that workbone accepts. The other keys work nearly perfect on the console with the Pro Keyboard (german layout) I also tested the script "cdda2wav...cdir..sed..." someone suggested in this list for playing mcds. The effect is a kind of white noise from the Macspeakers. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks. Karl-Heinz
