Re: powerpc + ppc64 architecture
Hi Adrian! " > May I add 32-bit powerpc by standard way: "dpkg --add-architecture powerpc" ? > Or are there any issues? Yes, that is absolutely possible. MultiArch works fine on PowerPC as well. See: https://wiki.debian.org/…WTO(https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO) " many thanks, I will try and let know the result. "Adrian " Martina
powerpc + ppc64 architecture
Hello, I appologize for maybe a little stupid question. I have Debian Sid now on Powermac G5 ( thanks to Adrian for last .iso ) and AmigaOne X1000, both are 64-bit systems and I want to test also 32-bit powerpc software. Sid have now 64-bit kernel and userpace. May I add 32-bit powerpc by standard way: "dpkg --add-architecture powerpc" ? Or are there any issues? thanks -- Martina Hřebcová
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
Hi Adrian P.S. very likely the cause of boot problems is on my side, not installer one. If I checked partitions with OSX and then with linux, it differs. And the difference is in my two grub partitions. Using disk tools from different OS causes some mismatch. I will reorganize disks, and for Debian will be dedicated one. Those aren’t boot-related issues, but you’re just missing the firmware for your graphics card. Please boot the machine with “nomodeset” and install the “firmware-graphics-amd” package. Thanks for advice, I will do this first. Adrian Martina
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
On 5/17/23 18:49, Martina Hřebcová wrote: Unfortunatelly system not boots. I see grub screen, can edit, select whatever. If I select kernel, there is only blinking cursor for few seconds and then it stops blinkink. Now I am in a hurry with family matters, but I will return to investigations next week. P.S. very likely the cause of boot problems is on my side, not installer one. If I checked partitions with OSX and then with linux, it differs. And the difference is in my two grub partitions. Using disk tools from different OS causes some mismatch. I will reorganize disks, and for Debian will be dedicated one.
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
"> On 5/17/23 10:38, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Yes, we increased the size of the /boot/grub partition at some point since GRUB requires more space. So, if possible, I recommend using the default partition layout that the installer suggests. " Yes! I had from previous version grub partition size 128 MB and now is needed at least 256 MB. Interesting is, that instaling of grub-ieee.. package has no error output, but simply hangs. So sorry of false alert, installer now works fine. Thank you very much! Unfortunatelly system not boots. I see grub screen, can edit, select whatever. If I select kernel, there is only blinking cursor for few seconds and then it stops blinkink. Now I am in a hurry with family matters, but I will return to investigations next week. " Adrian " Martina " "
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
Hi Adrian! On 5/17/23 10:38, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: In evening I will check also ext2 /boot/grub partition, and also try install all together to single / ext4 partition, if installer allows it. Of course, Mac will not boot in this case, but at least I can try whole installation process. That does not work. /boot/grub must be an HFS partition, otherwise the installation of the GRUB bootloader will fail. I recommend using the default partition layout for the time being. Thanks, it saves my time. I have another idea - I haven't check the size of my /boot/grub partiton. I used old grub partition from times when Debian drops yaboot. ( Debian 9 probably). Maybe this new grub version requires more space. Yes it could. My Powermac Quad has now issues with thermal calibration, I have to check and clean everything. Fortunatelly it has no coolant leakage. But other hardware like disk controllers woks fine under OSX and MorphOS. In most cases it's a memory module problem and it's not unusual that the problem shows with some operating systems only. Powermac ASD firmware diagnostics shows all RAM modules OK. But it is good point - I can try installation with only two other modules - i.e. 4GB I have also iMac G5 stored in basement, so I can try installation here. But later, my daughter is getting married this weekend :-))) Testing on a different machine is definitely a very good idea! PS: All the best for your daughter's marriage! Many thanks !!! Adrian Martina
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
Hello Adrian, On 5/17/23 10:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:a Hřebcová wrote: -Installing GRUB bootloader stucked ( grub-ieee1275 ). No fail, but no response. The process itself hangs as you can see in the kernel log: What partition layout did you use? Did you keep the HFS boot partition as suggested by the installer? Yes, I am used HFS ( not+) partition, with /boot/grub mountpoint. And ext4 / partition. In evening I will check also ext2 /boot/grub partition, and also try install all together to single / ext4 partition, if installer allows it. Of course, Mac will not boot in this case, but at least I can try whole installation process. If I skip installation of grub, do somebody know where I can find tested grub package? Or I try do it manually with .iso grub directory. There is no tested grub package as the packages are constantly updated. OK I will try some things manually. Your issue could be a hardware problem, too. I will give it a try inside QEMU later. Yes it could. My Powermac Quad has now issues with thermal calibration, I have to check and clean everything. Fortunatelly it has no coolant leakage. But other hardware like disk controllers woks fine under OSX and MorphOS. I have also iMac G5 stored in basement, so I can try installation here. But later, my daughter is getting married this weekend :-))) Adrian Martina
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
On 5/16/23 08:45, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: The issue is this change [1], so we need to use the latest version of debian-cd to create the installation images. However, since the latest version of debian-cd currently doesn't work with Debian Ports, I need to fix that first. OK, it was enough to disable firmware support in the CD configuration for now which isn't so much of a problem since it doesn't fully work at the moment anyway as it needs server-side support in the archive. I am building new images now which should show up here in a few minutes: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-05-16/ Many thanks! I will test today or at least tomorrow evening and let you know. Thanks, Adrian Martina
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
"Hello! On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 08:17 +0200, Martina Hřebcová wrote: > after several years I want to install Debian Sid again on my Powermac G5 > Quad and AmigaOne X1000. Please try the current images that I just created: > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-05-14/ " Tried just now, and installation of base system ends with error: "An error was returned while tryingto install zstd package onto the target system." Tested on Powermac G5 Quad core. Sysylog is in attachment. Please, may I post it somewhere, or is ir OK this way? " PS: Please always post into a new thread when starting a new topic. Adrian " Martina
Re: New Debian Sid installation - how to?
On 5/15/23 00:05, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! On Wed, 2023-05-10 at 08:17 +0200, Martina Hřebcová wrote: after several years I want to install Debian Sid again on my Powermac G5 Quad and AmigaOne X1000. Please try the current images that I just created: Many thanks! I will try al let know. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/snapshots/2023-05-14/ PS: Please always post into a new thread when starting a new topic. Adrian Martina
Re: Why it's so difficult to fix PowerMac booting for good
Hi Adrian! thank you for detailed explanation. I am in situation, when installing Debian Sid after several years. Previously I have Debian 8 ( with yaboot ) and then Debian 10 with some grub workaround. I simply forgot howto do it an cannot find the new how-to. This info is perfect. So I will use latest .iso ( with or without hfsprogs ), boot in expert mode and install Debian base system only, and the rest I will do manually. thanks Martina On 5/10/23 10:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hello! Since this topic is coming up from time to time, here a short rundown why making the bootloader installation on Apple PowerMac systems work properly. Installing a bootloader on a PowerMac requires an HFS or HFS+ partition where the initial bootloader must be copied and "blessed" such that the firmware of a PowerMac finds and loads the bootloader. The detailed process is explained here [1], for example. In debian-installer, this process is performed by the grub-installer script [2]. One of the problems here is that the tool for creating HFS/HFS+ filesystems is covered by a license that Debian considers non-free [3]. This resulted in the package being moved to the "non-free" section which is currently unsupported by Debian Ports meaning I always have to inject the hfsprogs package into debian- installer manually when building an installation image for powerpc or ppc64. As a result, every installation image that was build without this manual package injection will not work. There are some ISO images on the cdimage server where that indeed is the case. If you run into a problem where the bootloader installation doesn't work, it's therefore advisable to try a different image. Another problem is that blessing currently only works using the "hattrib" command from the hfsutils package which supports HFS but no HFS+ filesystems. While GRUB seems to come with its own blessing utility which supposedly supports HFS+ filesystems, I never got that to work. If we could get Apple PowerMac machines to boot from a FAT filesystem, the licensing issue with hfsprogs would no longer be a headache. According to Apple's documentation, booting from a FAT boot partition should work [4] but I have never gotten around to testing that. So, if anyone has the time and enthusiasm to be able to get an Apple PowerMac to boot off a FAT partition, please give it a try and let me know. If it works, we can replace the current bootloader installation in grub-installer [2] and fix the issue for good. Until then, we will have to resort to manual installation image builds. Adrian [1] https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1082746-start-0.html [2] https://salsa.debian.org/installer-team/grub-installer/-/blob/master/grub-installer#L1030 [3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=666707 [4] https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/bless/blob/main/README.BOOTING
New Debian Sid installation - how to?
Hi, after several years I want to install Debian Sid again on my Powermac G5 Quad and AmigaOne X1000. Please, what is the right steps for installing on Powermac G5? 1. I tried debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso from /cdimage/ports/snapshots/2022-12-09 but there is no hfs tools and installation fail 2. I tried debian-11.0.0-ppc64-NETINST-1.iso from /cdimage/ports/current, dated 2022-03-28 installation works ( with some issues with expired keys, which can be solved ) but in section "configuring grub-ieee1275" it hangs: - /target/boot/grub is mounted, hfs formated, rw, and there is some other files, so is writable for sure - last syslog messsages are: Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version Installing for powerpc-ieee1275 platform Please, first of all, what is the right last working installation .iso for ppc64 be ? And are there needed some additional workarounds ( like were with grub in times of debian 10 / powerprogress.org ) ? thanks Martina
Re: Radeon HD 5770
-- Původní e-mail -- Od: Johannes Brakensiek Komu: Michel Dänzer Datum: 1. 2. 2021 13:20:20 Předmět: Re: Radeon HD 5770 " Thank you. On 1 Feb 2021, at 12:42, Michel Dänzer wrote: " Is the firmware-amd-graphics / firmware-linux-nonfree package installed? " Yes, firmware is installed. " If yes, I'd suggest booting with modprobe.blacklist=radeon on the kernel command line (this will prevent the radeon kernel driver from getting loaded automatically). Then once the system is booted up, log in via SSH and run sudo modprobe radeon This way you should be able to capture dmesg output from loading the radeon driver. " That’s helpful. I did not get the dmesg output via SSH, but at the console. So the radeon driver loads the JUNIPER firmware, then the CYPRESS firmware and then hangs up. The last 5 lines are like this: firmware: direct-loading firmware radeon/JUNIPER_smc.bin [drm] Internal thermal controller with fan control [drm] radeon: dpm initialized firmware: direct-loading firmware radeon/CYPRESS_uvd.bin [drm] GART: num cpu pages 16384, num gpu pages 262144 And then it hangs up. Completely. :) Thank you Johannes " Johannes, maybe it is offtopic, but do you have two cards? ( for open firmware/OSX + linux )? Because in the case of two cards my Quad needs custom xorg.conf. By default there is bad BusID. -- Martina " "
