Re: [Pkg-openldap-devel] parallel buildd instances in chroots on same host?

2019-08-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On 8/14/2019 11:04 PM, Alister Winfield wrote:
> Wouldn’t using something like containers (docker etc)  be the best fix here. 
> Would ensure no unexpected interactions between the builds and yet have near 
> zero overheads.

Only if you build something that works properly on all architectures
Debian supports.

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Re: Hurd-i386 and kfreebsd-{i386,amd64} removal

2019-04-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On 4/13/2019 12:49 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> The process to inject all packages to debian-ports is to get all the
> deb, udeb and buildinfo files from the archives (main and debug) and
> associate them with the .changes files that are hosted on coccia. We'll
> also need to fetch all the associated GPG keys used to sign the changes
> files. Then we can inject that in the debian-ports archive.
I'm curious how the GPG bit works given that there is no guarantee that
the signature can be validated at any other point in time than ingestion
on ftp-master - especially considering the rotation/expiry of subkeys
and buildd keys. In this case the files already come from a trusted
source and should be ingested as-is, I guess? (Not that I particularly
like the fact that it's only a point in time validation.)

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Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification

2016-06-16 Thread Philipp Kern

On 2016-06-15 00:37, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:

There is openmainframe project https://www.openmainframeproject.org/ ,
which I believe offers access to z/VM instances hosted by Marist
colledge.

At the openmainframeproject EU meetup, it was indicated that SUSE
joined with indication that Open Build Service might be able to use
resources hosted by Marist.

I wonder if it makes sense to reach out, and see if there are
resources available to use as porter boxes & build boxes. That way
Debian might be able to get such donated resource available on ongoing
basis and hopefully with some hw support.


Debian already makes use of Marist's resources. The challenge was/is to 
get redundancy as DSA very sensibly insists on.


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Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification

2016-06-14 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:33:56PM +, Niels Thykier wrote:
> Philipp Kern:
> > On 2016-06-05 12:01, Niels Thykier wrote:
> >>  * amd64, i386, armel, armhf, arm64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el,
> >>s390x
> >>- *No* blockers at this time from RT, DSA nor security.
> >>- s390, ppc64el and all arm ports have DSA concerns.
> > What is the current DSA concern about s390x?
> The concern listed as: "rely on sponsors for hardware (mild concern)"
> 
> As I recall the argument went something along the lines of:
> 
> "Debian cannot replace the hardware; if any of the machines dies, we
> need a sponsor to replace it.  If all of them dies and we cannot get
> sponsored replacements, we cannot support the architecture any longer"
> 
> (My wording)

Yeah, but that's unfortunately one of the universal truths of this port.
I mean in theory sometimes they turn up on eBay and people try to make
them work[1].

It also seems true for other ports where we commonly relied on sponsors
to hand us replacements. But maybe it's only ppc64el these days, maybe
there are useful builds available for the others (including arm64 and
mips) on the market now.

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Philipp Kern

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk
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Re: [Stretch] Status for architecture qualification

2016-06-07 Thread Philipp Kern

On 2016-06-05 12:01, Niels Thykier wrote:

 * amd64, i386, armel, armhf, arm64, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el,
   s390x
   - *No* blockers at this time from RT, DSA nor security.
   - s390, ppc64el and all arm ports have DSA concerns.


What is the current DSA concern about s390x?

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Philipp Kern



Re: binNMUs: please exercise some care

2015-10-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 02:46:23PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Oct 2015, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > and testing), so the only way to be certain what binNMU number to use is to
> > check manually. In practice what actually happens is that people forget 
> > about
> Maybe wb could do a “dak ls” and whatever the equivalent for dpo mini-dak is.

Unfortunately it is not being run on the same host as dak either.

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Re: Qt5 switching qreal from float to double on arm*

2013-11-09 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 02:46:27PM -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer 
wrote:
> - If we decide to do the change in Qt5, it will be *without* soname bump. 
> Yes, 
> I know many of you will think of this as **ugly**, but so far means 3 binNMUs 
> per arch. Now if this is not acceptable, then no change will be made, because 
> I won't change Qt5's SONAME.

What is your plan to support partial upgrades? BinNMUs can require new Qt
versions to be installed, but Qt can be upgraded independently to the newer
version, causing the rdepends to crash. This can potentially be solved by
Breaks, but it still breaks assumptions of people using Debian in that such
ABI breaks will be communicated through SONAME bumps. And the old lib will
not even be coinstallable.

(Of course a good time to do such changes are in fact SONAME bumps, but I
realize that this won't happen for Qt for quite some time.)

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Re: apt sources for Debian Sarge

2013-08-07 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 10:46:21AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 07:11:18PM -0600, Thomas Carlson wrote:
> > What are the correct apt sources for Debian Sarge these days?  The old ones:
> > 
> > deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free
> > deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian/ sarge main contrib non-free
> > 
> > no longer work.
> That works perfectly here.

Shouldn't the keys be expired? ;-)

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Re: haskell-http-conduit failure on powerpc

2013-06-04 Thread Philipp Kern

Hi,

On 2013-06-04 13:31, Colin Watson wrote:

So a fix for this is in progress, but, of the four active powerpc
buildds, only praetorius is running 2.6.32, and the rest are on 3.2.
I've CCed the powerpc buildd admins; I don't suppose it would be
possible to upgrade praetorius?


it's DSA's call, but they do want to upgrade all buildds anyway, so I 
wouldn't expect much opposition.


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Re: Viewing Flash content in Squeeze on PowerPC, and G+

2012-12-13 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:57:23PM -0900, Terrence van Ettinger wrote:
>   I have an old iMac G4 running Squeeze that I'd like to be able to
> view web pages on that use flash content. Can this be done at all
> reliably?

You can try gnash and lightspark. If it's just about viewing YouTube
videos you can go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and activate
non-Flash rendering. As for proprietary Flash you're out of luck.

>   Also, is there any way to use G+ Hangouts with the same computer?

Sadly that's entirely proprietary, even though they're also pushing an
open technology (WebRTC), which is as of yet not compatible with their
offering, though.

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Re: Installing Lenny on PowerMac?

2012-11-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 04:10:29PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Would I have better luck with a DVD, where I wouldn't need to get
> anything from the network mirrors until after the installation is
> complete?

Yes.

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Re: BOINC package, need PowerPC upload

2012-08-06 Thread Philipp Kern
Steffen,

am Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 12:59:40PM +0200 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
> We had done so, twice at least, from what I recall to have been CCed to
> me by the package's new maintainer. Are there extra magic words beyond
> "please" or did we just not address the right individuals?If it is not
> too much of a hassle for you, please kindly ask the buildd on our behalf
> again with a CC to me, so we can learn.

I don't have any mails about boinc except this thread in my archive of the
last 365 days. So you likely mailed the wrong people.

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Re: BOINC package, need PowerPC upload

2012-08-06 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 01:16:26PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> I don't know any magic other than posting to the address I added to CC.
> powerpc buildd admins, please requeue boinc.

Done.

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Re: wine considered not-for-us on powerpc

2012-06-06 Thread Philipp Kern
Aubrey,

am Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 08:44:21PM -0700 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
> AFAIK Wine doesn't emulate the CPU (not an emulator). The binaries are
> still run as binaries. And almost all Windows binaries are for x86. So
> while Wine might be able to compile and run on PowerPC, the Windows
> programs you would run in Wine would not.

back in the days when there was OS X for PowerPC there was a Wine available. I
also found it pretty useless. Their argument was that to ease porting the
Windows applications could be recompiled by their developers for Windows/PPC
and hence would then work under Wine/PPC.

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Re: Add Link to PowerPC port page?

2012-05-20 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi,

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 09:16:53PM -0400, David Prévot wrote:
> Le 12/05/2012 20:38, Daniel DeVoto a écrit :
> 
> > I wrote a Wheezy PowerPC install guide for my blog:
> > 
> > http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com/2012/03/installing-debian-linux-on-ppc-part-i.html
> > 
> > Would you like to add this to the PowerPC port page?  The other HOWTO links 
> > on that page are somewhat outdated.
> 
> Thanks for the offer, forwarding your request to the PowerPC people who
> are in charge of the http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ pages. I can't
> judge about the possibly outdated entries, nor about the proposed
> install guide, but am willing to help keeping these pages up to date if
> you don't have time to commit changes directly on the website.

well, in any case we could remove those which clearly 404.  (Which I did now.
I did not review the other HOWTOs that were still reachable.)

I added the link to the page, it should be visible with the next page
generation run.  Thank you for notifying us.

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Re: Impact of [linux-any] when pbuilding packages on powerpc for squeeze

2012-05-17 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 12:33:43AM +0200, e20100633 wrote:
> Hm. Actually, the packages seems to be generated quite well under
> i386/amd64 as we can see on http://emacs.naquadah.org/, so I was
> thinking that was because I'm trying under powerpc. Is not that weird
> that everything goes well when I just erase [linux-any] tags from
> debian/control?

Sadly pbuilder doesn't print its version.  It obviously doesn't do the right
thing when creating its dummy package.  According to [0] it's fixed in testing,
unstable but not in stable.  So you need a newer pbuilder.

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[0] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=363193


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Re: Impact of [linux-any] when pbuilding packages on powerpc for squeeze

2012-05-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 04:51:18PM +0200, e20100633 wrote:
> --8<---cut here---start->8---
> $ AUTO_DEBSIGN=no sudo pdebuild 
> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libncurses5-dev  
> liblockfile-dev libgif-dev libtiff-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg-dev |
> libjpeg62-dev | libjpeg8-dev libgtk-3-dev | libgtk2.0-dev 
> quilt (>= 0.42) libasound2-dev libselinux1-dev librsvg2-dev  
> lsb-release libm17n-dev libotf-dev libdbus-1-dev libgpm-dev  
> libmagickwand-dev libxml2-dev libgnutls-dev
> autoconf (>= 2.65) automake (>= 1.11)
> (...)
> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture powerpc
> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libasound2-dev 
> libselinux1-dev libgpm-dev
> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; 
> aborting.
> dpkg-buildpackage: warning: (Use -d flag to override.)
> E: Failed autobuilding of package
> --8<---cut here---end--->8---

I very much doubt that this is a powerpc-specific issue.  Also you snipped the
interesting part.  (It would be best to attach the log, possibly compressed.)

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Re: unace-nonfree 2.5-7 is for you, too

2012-04-03 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi,

On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 10:40:56AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
> currently, the unace-nonfree package has status Not-For-Us on your
> archs and is thus not auto-built. However, the recent package
> revision 2.5-7 contains a fix in the endianess detection code that
> should make it possible to build it on your archs. Please remove the
> Not-for-Us status of this package and trigger compilation on the
> autobuilds.

I removed the nfu for both.

(I know it's difficult, but the right point of contact would in this case be
$a...@buildd.debian.org).

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Re: Bug#638785: libogre-perl: FTBFS with powerpc buildd: tests fail

2011-08-30 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:43:32PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 02:46:10PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 08:48:32AM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote:
> > > The perl package on poulenc is still at 5.12.4-1, lacking the fix for
> > > #630399 and therefore not looking into the multiarch directories.
> > > 
> > > Cc'ing the powerpc buildd maintainers. Could you please upgrade perl in
> > > poulenc.debian.org ?
> > 
> > Upgraded both porpora and poulenc, sorry for the hassle.
> 
> Great, thanks! Please could you give-back libogre-perl, 
> libdevice-usb-perl, libpango-perl, and libastro-fits-cfitsio-perl,
> which all seem to have similar issues.

Done.

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Re: Bug#638785: libogre-perl: FTBFS with powerpc buildd: tests fail

2011-08-30 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 08:48:32AM +0300, Niko Tyni wrote:
> The perl package on poulenc is still at 5.12.4-1, lacking the fix for
> #630399 and therefore not looking into the multiarch directories.
> 
> Cc'ing the powerpc buildd maintainers. Could you please upgrade perl in
> poulenc.debian.org ?

Upgraded both porpora and poulenc, sorry for the hassle.

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Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> maybe, and fix it in N - ~100 packages?  Or fix the ~100 packages?
> The point of injection is for discussion.  I would prefer having
> this set in dpkg-buildflags, and then disabled by these ~100
> packages.  Note that this is probably the same like modifying the N
> - ~100 packages, as almost no package respects dpkg-buildflags yet.

Did you actually do a build test?

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Re: Are powerpc packages being sent to incoming from buildds at all?

2010-07-17 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi,

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 05:10:07AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote:
> Something that is making me a little worried: are the powerpc packages
> getting from the buildds to incoming?
> 
> A quick perusal would make me believe that the answer would be no, since
> I only saw 3 packages in incoming.d.o and two of them (irssi plugins)
> were uploaded by Rhonda (which I believe still uses her trusty
> PowerBook, right Rhonda?) and another one was an non maintainer upload
> for quick-installer.
> 
> Is there any problem that was not communicated?

so?  It's not unusual that they are uploaded in batches given that they are
signed by a human person all at once if he tends to it.  That there are only
three packages on incoming.d.o is not a concern in the general case.

That said there are currently 101 packages in the state `built' which
haven't been signed in two days.  Wouter?

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Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 02:49:47PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > It's almost certain that both the relevant package maintainer and the 
> > release team are already aware of this and that it has been a conscious 
> > choice to accept the breakage.
> Given that the package version clearly indicates it reached testing by way
> of testing-proposed-updates, I think it's unwise to assume this.  Cc:ing
> debian-release for input on the uninstallability of gnome in testing.

While I did not take care about the fallout due to time constraints on my
side, I did take a look at the meta-gnome2 migration back then.  We did not
place any approval hint but it seems that the multiple arch:all confused
britney sufficiently so that she decided to migrate those packages without
any hint at all.

Sadly I was unable to track down the bug in question and our log keeping
is currently almost non-existant.

As soon as something is copied over to testing autobuilding is automatically
stopped, which might be another bug of its own.

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Re: Please upload a porter NMU of gnutls26

2008-11-02 Thread Philipp Kern
Roger,

am Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:32:14PM + hast du folgendes geschrieben:
> On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 10:13:30AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> > gnutls26 2.4.2-1 (uploaded 2008-09-21) has FTBFS due to a dirty buildd
> > chroot on powerpc (malo). I have tried in vain to get the buildd admin to
> > clean up the buildd chroot ("apt-get --purge remove libcups2-dev
> > libgnutls-dev") and reschedule the build.
> > 
> > Since this is blocking migration of the package to lenny (it is
> > already unblocked by d-r) I am asking for a porter upload.
> Done.  Build log attached.

Just for reference: the chroots are now clean.  If there are any pending
give-back/retry requests, please tell me at [0].

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