Re: xserver Settings for ATI Rage 128
On 22.08.2009 at 17:08 Dirk wrote: Hi Clark, thanks for this hint. I tried it, but no success... resolution still remains at 800x600... You have to trust in xorg, which tries to get everything right. Sad thing, it does get wrong on Apple Computers quit often. A good point to start is read-edid by John Fremlin ( see http://john.fremlin.de/programs/linux/read-edid/ ) Of course you have to set up an xorg.conf, but you should use the output of get-edid | parse-edid in your "Monitor" section. This has worked for a eMac with debian lenny which stuck at 1024x768. Now it's 1280x1024. I use that with fbdev I had to state. And you should use a short xorg.conf with the essential information. xorg isn't that bad in guessing the other things. For an inspiration you might lokk at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6821843 Ralf
gpt partitions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello to all powerpc users still out there! I've done a little data rescue and stored the saved data onto an external firewire disk. For some reasons I choose the EFI / GPT partition and used an ext3 partition on that device (done with an AMD desktop). I had to give the data back and went out with my PowerBook and the external disk ... to find out I couldn't mount it! Yes, I know, first: test, second: use it Got some hints and found out that debian lenny ppc and ubuntu 9.04 ppc both kernels have disabled EFI partitions in the kernel config. Perhaps there's a reason for that? Just for the sake of interoperability could it be set for the next kernel revision? Ralf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFKSbMTtKcsE7vsbMERAlF7AJ9jT6IiUeFM/ZyDmhjc+RMsSZlaswCghfl8 m96V/kvLvZ19ROxjefGbRIg= =bwUg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Issues with Debian Lenny on Powerbook G4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello! It's my personal opinion that the xorg version lenny uses, still 7.2 and xserver v 1.3, are not useful and by far not up to date. i.e. no dual screen with xrandr which simply doesn't work as it should with that version of xorg. If dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't get you a working setup to tune things up, try the setting fbset gives or give xrandr a try. I only get an undisturbed screen after I changed the default resolution of 1440x900 with grandr to 1440x960 (Alu PBook G4). As MacOS X and Ubuntu do use the second tft via DVI it's not a problem with hardware neither linux. My guess is that xorg 7.2 simply isn't made for it. It's outdated, btw. 7.3 was released in 2007. Sad thing that debian testing is still based on that. Same problems with AMD64, for your reference, it's not a powerpc problem in my opinion and up to my experience. That might point to the sad fact, that debian isn't for the desktop but for servers? Is xorg 7.3 still not enough tested? Sorry, but it's really boring and I know I could switch. Ralf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIDge+tKcsE7vsbMERAibeAJ4tyLpPFMUoDrWPmWMhIl8nlx2TAwCeJ44S bWtwaJ/gL1LpXwnQvqU8MwU= =1rSU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xserver-xorg 7.3 or 7.4?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello to the powerpc team, I tried some linux distros lately and liked the way xorg works. No hassle with the PowerBook 1440x960 tft and even no problem with the second tft. But there were some things I don't like, that's why I like to stick to debian. But for the benefit of xorg 7.3 and the xorg server 1.4, which is not exactly brand new, I found that debian testing (lenny) still uses the xorg release 7.2 with the server version 1.3. I don't like that version at all having problems on every computer like wrong resolutions from scratch and being unable to get the best resolutions on the external tft (1680x1050) or the emac (1280x1024). Any idea when this outdated xorg version will be replaced in lenny? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIBcCLtKcsE7vsbMERAmR2AKCFk5bGDanvrw0B2gOQw6ONqyu+rgCff7lA oZ196sJ5wgxEkoBwlH0sgdQ= =SVio -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lenny on powerbook g4
Hello, I like to share some information on running lenny on my powerbook g4. More information on hardware and features is attached. * On installation I run into a freeze, once more at the point when the time was configured but that's not the point as I found out. I have a pcmcia memory card adapter with a 1GB MMC inserted, FAT formated. That's recognized as drive hdc. dmesg shows that there is a problem with that, lost interrupt. Get's me about the time when it comes to the time setting. No problem when the pcmcia card is off. * I have to login twice into gdm. Don't find any error logged for that. * graphic performance was very poor until I installed libgl1-mesa- dri . Would be fine if it would be a dependancy to xserver-xorg. And I have a lot questions, the most urgent one is: What's the state of the art to get wlan to work? bmc43xx and wpa_supplicant are set up and I can see wlan networks but can't connect. Or should I switch to madwifi and the b43(legacy) way? Hope that's a little help? Ralf /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 7447A, altivec supported clock : 1666.666000MHz revision: 0.5 (pvr 8003 0105) bogomips: 33.15 timebase: 832 platform: PowerMac machine : PowerBook5,8 motherboard : PowerBook5,8 MacRISC3 Power Macintosh detected as : 287 (PowerBook G4 15") pmac flags : 0019 L2 cache: 512K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld uname -a Linux heraklit 2.6.22-3-powerpc #1 Tue Nov 13 15:52:56 UTC 2007 ppc GNU/Linux hdc: Memory Card Adapter II, CFA DISK drive hdc: max request size: 128KiB hdc: 2007040 sectors (1027 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=3920/16/32 hdc: hdc1 ide-cs: hdc: Vpp = 0.0 hdc: lost interrupt hdc: lost interrupt hdc: lost interrupt hdc: lost interrupt ... hdc: lost interrupt :00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 AGP Bridge Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 Capabilities: [80] AGP version 1.0 Kernel driver in use: agpgart-uninorth Kernel modules: uninorth-agp :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 255, IRQ 48 Memory at b800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] I/O ports at 0400 [size=256] Memory at b000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] Expansion ROM at f100 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: radeonfb 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 PCI Bridge Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 16 Kernel modules: uninorth-agp 0001:10:11.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Apple Computer Inc. Unknown device 4318 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 16, IRQ 52 Memory at a0004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K] Kernel driver in use: bcm43xx Kernel modules: bcm43xx 0001:10:14.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 53 Memory at a0003000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Bus: primary=10, secondary=11, subordinate=14, sec-latency=176 Memory window 0: 9000-9000 (prefetchable) Memory window 1: f300-f33ff000 I/O window 0: 1000-11ff I/O window 1: 1400-15ff 16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001 Kernel driver in use: yenta_cardbus Kernel modules: yenta_socket 0001:10:15.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: NEC Corporation Hama USB 2.0 CardBus Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 54 Memory at a0002000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd 0001:10:15.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: NEC Corporation Hama USB 2.0 CardBus Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 54 Memory at a0001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd 0001:10:15.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 16, IRQ 54 Memory at a000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd Kernel modules: ehci-hcd 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid
ide fails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello to the debian people, I'm running a PowerMac G3 300 MHz: cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 cpu : 740/750 temperature : 32-35 C (uncalibrated) clock : 300.69MHz revision: 2.2 (pvr 0008 0202) bogomips: 33.28 timebase: 16708566 platform: PowerMac machine : Power Macintosh motherboard : AAPL,Gossamer MacRISC detected as : 48 (PowerMac G3 (Gossamer)) pmac flags : L2 cache: 1024K unified pipelined-syncro-burst pmac-generation : OldWorld with two hard drives: hda: IC35L060AVVA07-0, ATA DISK drive hda: Enabling MultiWord DMA 2 hdc: SAMSUNG HD300LD, ATA DISK drive hdc: Enabling MultiWord DMA 2 hda: max request size: 128KiB hda: 120103200 sectors (61492 MB) w/1863KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63, (U)DMA hda: cache flushes supported hda: [mac] hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4 hdc: max request size: 512KiB hdc: 586072368 sectors (300069 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=36481/255/63, (U)DMA hdc: cache flushes supported hdc: [mac] hdc1 hdc2 hdc3 hdc4 hdc5 For the record: Etch installation - Linux platon 2.6.18-5-powerpc #1 Wed Oct 3 04:56:19 UTC 2007 ppc GNU/Linux hdc is less then a year old, had an hitachi (and replacement from hitachi) that died in that place twice. Both drives have a temperature about 38-42°C over the year. Yesterday I found that a package was brocken an elf binary wasn't in the right place. As a new kernel was on the update list, I rebooted the computer, fsck kicked in and was done with -fc options ... which found some bad blocks on hda. Fixed. Packages fixed, too. Those I noticed. And a day later I found on the console: Oct 21 07:20:55 platon kernel: hda: dma_intr: status=0xd0 { Busy } Oct 21 07:20:55 platon kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown Oct 21 07:20:55 platon kernel: hda: DMA disabled Oct 21 07:20:55 platon kernel: ide0: reset: success ... Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest } Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: hdc: dma_intr: status=0xd0 { Busy } Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: hdc: DMA disabled Oct 21 11:20:52 platon kernel: ide1: reset: success I know that drives break. It's possible that two drives break at the same time. But 4 drives in all and two at the same time? Is there a problem with the PMac G3 ide? Do I need a custom kernel? Sarge was up over a year without a problem. I'm a little afraid that I will loose the discs, the data (rdiff- backup done), or the server again. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHG5sWtKcsE7vsbMERAtVBAJ9maykTAKboWuruYaFcBOQDvLQXBwCeKohZ NiQUDodiNggMaqWSDSaM69E= =XAK1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Correct Linux Kernel for Sonnet G4 in PowerMac 7500 with Sarge?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello at Debian, however, one old 8500 i had to turn up the bright and contrast all the way and then could barely still see the console at night with all the lights out. however(2) once Xwindows started it was fine. I noticed that this alters with the monitor settings of MacOS. It might help to change the color depth in MacOS. The monitor has the power light begin flashing, so I don't think that the problem is waiting for X-Windows to start; I think the kernel isn't loading. I used a 8500 PMac with kernel 2.4 and a sonnet 450MHz G3 with 512kb L2 cache. A kernel 2.6 has worked but I missed the video-in support. One or two things might go wrong. Out-of-the-box sarge 2.6 kernel might have things compiled in that don't work on OldWorld Macs. Compile your own or use a special one from ppckernels.org. The other thing are l2/l3 caches. I had a PowerMac 9500 that could not cold boot the 400MHz G3 card but it does with a restart. I think that might be a cache problem. I had run the 8500 Mac for quit some time without the l2 cache enabled. I found out later how to set it. It's about an upgrade g3 but it might get you on the track: http:// www.cpu.lu/~mlan/linux/dev/g3upgrade.html This might sound strange, but I set up the OW Macs with a woody installer. The old one I have does install debian stable ;-) This always worked in case of a problem with the installer. I think etch has a kernel 2.4. That might be another point to start and build a kernel 2.6 that works, before switching to sarge. I was really hoping ot hear from one of the people who assured me they had used Sonnet cards with Debian; if you're out there (John Schmidt, Peter Rooney, Ralf Saalmüller), please give a shout-out. YES I USE A SONNET G3 CARD WITH DEBIAN. Is that shout-out loud enough? ;-) Hop you get it somehow, Ralf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHE+petKcsE7vsbMERAlsLAJ0YqG9/ImjoJQ2jkYfcRqiXn4trLQCglxca Et9/CmYwRnpmOuK4qlRZ5h0= =Pg5B -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: etch/powerbook G4 wlan/wpa not working
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 01.06.2007 um 07:48 schrieb Andrei Morgan: Georg Heinrich wrote: I don't get wlan with wpa working on my powerbook g4 with etch. you probably need bcm43xxx-fwcutter package. i wrote up how i got mine working: http://travelsoforion.net/debian-wireless Hello to everyone, you get the bcm43xx-fwcutter package after activating non-free in your apt sources.list. You can do that within synaptic too. You can not only select, download and install the fwcutter package, you will be asked during configuration if the firmware should be downloaded, too. No need to read anything ;-) BTW I missed the wpa_supplicant.conf file. It wasn't installed and it's not in the wpa_supplicant package for ppc. I found the original one on the net with all the information in it. Next remark: Don't trust the network-manager. Check everything, resolv.conf, /etc/network/interfaces and bring up the interface with ifdown eth2; ifup eth2 Don't trust the network-manager, check for a default route, too. Just my 2 cents and my humble experience. Ralf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGX8aytKcsE7vsbMERAiDfAJ0WHoZWBgphThuvxgfsZYBEFv+j0wCbBov3 gcsCI68qMc7dzmLkhdbyK1o= =Id6j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PowerPC buildd is looking for a new home
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello to Debian-PowerPC, it's 20 day to go until the buildd for the debian powerpc port gets disconnected. To the people in charge: Please make your decision soon. To be able to make the transit in time and to stop the discussion about it. Thanks. - --- Ralf Saalmüller PPCNUX-Team Germany http://www.ppcnux.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGRCA+tKcsE7vsbMERAgDBAJ9BAwbu2z3tBk3j9K4SONlQDe1sgQCfQ7Pr mb/zPJN3EsoiLYnFV3HET48= =diI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: major problem booting Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 on a Workgroup Server 8550/200
Hello Pierre, Hi there, After several installation attempts, I am stuck with a very weird problem. The machine is a Workgroup Server 8550/200. There's MacOS 9.0.4 on it, and remaining free space on the disk. ... When Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 is installed, well, the only thing left to do is to boot it. And here comes the major problem. I'm using BootX to boot with the following parameters: (see the little screenshot at http://pierre.baudu.in/files/ 20070424_BootX.jpg ) - kernel: vmlinux-2.6.18-4-powerpc - force video settings: enabled - use specified ramdisk: initrd.img-2.6.18-4-powerpc - ramdisk size: 8192 - no video driver: enabled - more kernel arguments: root=/dev/sda10 ... But booting still fails, now the message is: VFS: Cannot open root device "sda10" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option But /dev/sda10 is there ! And Debian 4.0 was working properly on it since it installed flawlessly. This is puzzling. Any help would be appreciated Thank you, As I read this I do remember that I run into the same problem some days ago but thought that I did something wrong. I noticed that there was an updated 2.6.18 kernel installed and as an OW Mac user, if you like to run it, copy it first. Mounted the MacOS9 scsi disk and copied the whole /boot dir to MacOS. I even checked the right settings of BootX on MacOS9 to make shure the new kernel has been picked. I noticed somehow that there was no initrd with the old one. Strange thing. When I used the brand new 2.6.18 kernel and initrd my beige G3 comes up with the same error. To my luck I found one of the outdated kernel, still 2.6.18-4. But this one has no initrd. And it worked. The only help I can offer is to confirm the problem. Ralf PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht
Re: beige PowerMac G3 freezes starting X with etch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello brian, thanks for your helpful response. I would expect that there should be xorg v7.0 on the servers if it's known that 7.1 or 7.2 doesn't work well in some circumstances. But that's another point, don't stop progress. Some odd things first. hi, i looked at your attachments. i have a beigeg3 but it is slightly newer version than yours. the rageII graphics was said to be a difficulty in the past (no surprise, regression) Sorry, worked very well in sarge. i have upgraded one newer power mac, and tracked it through the upgrade in place through testing and all that. i also have an original g3 powerbook which i could not even get boot sarge yet (although i had the one previous model going with it fine), because of video issue even at the frame buffer/ console. Yes, can acknowledge that. Two columns each 1 or 2 characters wide get crippled. It depends on the resolution where they are. Oh, sorry, forgot one thing. I don't get them when booting the kernel with video=ofonly but then I get very flaw colors dark gray on light black in the consoles. Which isn't very much fun either. But as the beige G3 is managed remotely, that's no deal. anyway, i see in your log, actually lots of error on the scsci bus. if i know my experience is that these things can interact to produce freeze (even though it seems unrelated...). so first thing i would do is unhook your scsi chain. if you need a cd right away you might have to get it on the ata bus ( i did to even get sarge on mine). My historiy. I haven't had the time to config the nvram to boot with quik. That's why I have to boot with BootX from MacOS9. And that's on an old scsi disk. Got nasty problems with an hit... drive. Must work with this for a while. second if you have three pci cards i would pull the oldest one ( looked like you had two different usb cards in there). Oh! There's only two cards in, the ethernet and the _one_ usb. Perhaps there are different USB hubs on it? It was a no name labeled to work with MacOS X. thirdly, you *must* twiddle the xorg-conf file. you did not include that with your report, it is the essential part. from my experience the installers never can auto configure the X successfully on older machines. fourth consider if you really like old macs (I do) some way to fix up the video. BTW i saw you were booting in some very high res mode even though you have only the 2MB vram. for start i would boot it as trying a) 800x600 w/millions of colors, and b) 1024x768 w/256 colors. That's a problem, because there is the 4MB VRAM extension in place. And MacOS 9 gets it. As the graphic should match a ATI rage pci graphics with 6MB VRAM it should work fine. The alternative is a formac imagine128 graphic card hosting 8MB VRAM. But I got trouble using it as there are no MacOS 9 drivers on the PMac and I'm still booting with BootX. Didn't get a signal with that card (yet). Up until now I have installed some core xorg packages and some apps i.e. xosview, mysql-admin and gnome-terminal which can be used remotely. At this point I haven't installed gdm or tried to start X via startx. After I sorted out some other problems that bit a little more deeper, I'll come back to this point. personally i am trying to get a whole new video card to go. preferably i am trying the atirage128 with 16mB Video ram. it works great in macosX, seems to really have been a bottle neck my old video card(s). should work in linux but like i said i have so many items to attend to. hope some of this discussion would help at least alleviate some discouragements. Will work on that. Having a Linux server to test things is very nice. And if it's not a x86 is a little bit more "very nice" ;-) Ralf -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGLvfytKcsE7vsbMERAlmTAJ9n4HFGtU2U2c4CmizcyJ8OwiASvQCfTrEf iqFBfZXDbp6sdHSxXv9Ygd8= =Hfv7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
beige PowerMac G3 freezes starting X with etch
Hello at PowerPC-debian.org Yesterday I started updating an PowerMac G3 from sarge to etch by the book. I printed out the upgrade notes and followed them by checking all things. Took quit a while. There was wdm installed and xfce but I choose to install the GNOME Desktop. Everything went fine but the restart after finishing the GNOME files. Everthing booted like it should and the gdm came up ... that's what I thought the next 45 sec. I had to find out that the PMac was dead as a BSODed Wintel PC. No keys changed anything, no killing the X-Server, no changing to a console, no ssh from another PC. Nothing, not even a ping anymore. BTW I need a tip how to change to single user runlevel by boot parameter. Neither init=single nor rescue/enable=true worked. I even installed a plain new etch installation from CD erasing the former partition. Same thing. I took out gdm via the installer console and tried to start X via startx, same thing. I changed the xorg.conf, the monitor settings, checked the ATI settings, changed even color depth. Nothing changed. X11 comes up showing the X mouse cursor which I can move for some seconds (two or three) and than everything stops and after 30sec. the monitor is going off. There is no kernel panic, no entry in the Xorg.log or syslog. There is only one suspicious entry in kern.log prior to restart: Apr 11 04:06:02 platon kernel: phy registers: Apr 11 04:06:02 platon kernel: Apr 11 04:06:02 platon last message repeated 3 times Don't tell me to file a bug, I will do it. Don't yell your missing information, there's the cpuinfo, uname, lspci, Xorg.log dmesg and kern.log attached (as tgz). Ralf PMacG3beige-NoX.tgz Description: Binary data PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht
Re: New Install Questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 22.02.2007 um 22:18 schrieb Aenn Seidhe Priest: On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:10:59 -0600, Jack Malmostoso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aenn Seidhe Priest wrote: Debian installer had written the Newworld boot partition and the boot order automatically. > Now the question is, how to dump a Yaboot.conf from an existing boot partition? I am sorry but I still don't get what you mean with "dump". When you apply changes to /etc/yaboot.conf by invoking /sbin/ybin you reinstall the bootloader, just like lilo does on x86. Okay, but is there any way to write the /etc/yaboot.conf from whatever is already on the boot partition? Boot entries (OS X, CD, Linux), boot order, partition info? You like to have a script / program that creates a valid "yaboot.conf" file from scratch with entries for existing partitions and the OS they contain? Would be nice to have it beside ybin. The ubuntu and debian installer both do a good job in that, sad thing that this part isn't a standalone script but integrated part of the installer. Not quite *nix like, I guess. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFF3py1tKcsE7vsbMERArAEAJ9vwEoHZ9HkqMpZ5/PS8pwLMy8MsQCglhyZ wpA9PxC7+/U92Oabwlcv6Bc= =Tgpb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian has failed us
Hello to all of the PowerPC Debian people out there. I don't want to discuss. Sometimes it is helpful to take another point of view. In my humble opinion there was a customer who has a problem with Debian PowerPC. The problem is a known bug. In a normal commercial environment everyone would expect that this bug is solved. And that's no bad expectation. In my humble opinion (I don't discuss on this, it's my opinion) this customer was send from one counter to another without helping him. In my opinion this customer was told stories (it does not count if right or one was lying) just to get rid of him. In a respectful commercial environment I would expect that the problem was solved. I would expect from my staff that they don't discuss, that they don't tell stories, that they don't look for another one to blame but to solve that problem. There is nothing else that matters. Solve that problem. Don't argue, don't look for explanations. Solve it. Nobody does give a damn how you do it as long as you solve it. In a real world you just lost a valuable customer. In a real world you probably lost your job. In a real world you drag your company into chapter 4 (or was that 9)? It's high time to get a little bit more professional. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version
Am 13.12.2006 um 05:44 schrieb Charles Plessy: Definitely, the OEM market for desktop ppc is dead. But the second hand market is much greater than the OEM one anyway. Does anybody has an idea on the number of ppc macintoshes Apple sold? Let's make a guess. Nothing more. Apple sold roughly about 1.000.000 Macs a quarter, that's up to 4.000.000 Macs a year. Some times a little less, sometimes a little more. Let's say PowerPCs started with the PMac 7/8/9500 that was 1995 and ended 2005. That is simple math, 10 years with 4 million units: Let's say that Apple produced round about 40 million PowerPC computers? Now 40 million as a fix number will be wrong, most likely. If you feel better, let's say that about 30 to 50 million PowerPC based computer were sold. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mount hfs+ partition
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 31.10.2006 um 07:54 schrieb brian: shame, shame both of you: Read the Fine Manual. hfs plus is mounted via -t ufs, there is no such thing as -t hpfsplus ("man mount" for whole story) brian Sorry brian, I don't bother what the man mount does say, as I use hfsplus for some years now on at least 3 debian installations and two Ubuntu. hfsplus is alive! One thing you might to is apt-get install hfsplus as it is a package within otherfs. And debian is well known not always getting the whole thing done. On the other side, hfsplus is part of the ppc kernel 2.4 and 2.6. There is such a thing as -t hfsplus. Ralf - --- Ralf Saalmüller Amonshöhe 26 97437 Hassfurt Germany PPCNUX-Team http://www.ppcnux.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFRwW2tKcsE7vsbMERApSYAJ9s+8BUcWcjPicvPEMdzS9nMlB72wCfSgT7 pevRDQFfAJUsklKhUQ+/+BY= =s5Sz -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Sonnet Crescendo/PCI G4 Processor Upgrade Card with Debian Sarge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Am 29.10.2006 um 08:40 schrieb Peter Rooney: Dear Jeffrey, Sonnet G3 upgrade in my 7600 (extremely similar) worked fine for both woody and sarge. After I'd been running it for a year, I discovered that there was a way to get the L2 cache used in Linux. My run book for that machine is buried, so I can't say for certain what the process was without digging through boxes of books, but I seem to recall the MacOS program was called "Grab G3 Cache Settings". Not sure if it's applicable to your G4. Good luck. Peter Rooney Jeffrey Rolland wrote: > Hello, all! > > I have a Power Macintosh 7500/100 running Debian Sarge. I would like > to upgrade this from the 100MHz processor it has to a Sonnet > Crescendo/PCI G4 1GHz processor upgrade card, but I am not sure it > will work with the kernel. I had heard that Yellow Dog Linux won't > work with an upgrade card, which sparks my concern. Debian should work out of the box with the upgrades, it was long time a have to to upgrade the PowerPC 601 cpu card. A Sonnet G3 450 (L2 512MB) in an PMac 8500 that runs fine with Debian sarge KDE. It starts right into Linux without BootX (as long as the NVRAM isn't reeset). This combination doesn't set up the L2 cache at boot time. But you can set the L2 cache within Linux if the /proc file system is up. "cat /proc/sys/kernel/l2cr" will show you if a L2 cache was set up and how it's tuned. You can simply echo the right string to this and the l2 is set up and working. The virgin output on my system/kernel/card was 0x0016: L2 disabled, no parity, 2MB, clock disabled, flow-through burst SRAM, copy-back, 0.5ns hold With the right setting I'm getting (actual settings nulled so nobody likes to just test my very own settings and burn his cache lines): 0x L2 enabled, no parity, 512KB, +2 clock, pipelined burst SRAM, copy-back, 0.5ns hold ATTENTION!!! You will seriously harm you computer and cpu card providing an incorrect string / number / cache setting!!! Use Powerlogix cpudirector with MacOS(X) to get a useful and secure cache setting. Some information about it: http://www.cpu.lu/~mlan/linux/dev/g3upgrade.html http://www.stunet.tu-freiberg.de/~hypermail/lkml/2002/10/3486.html http://www.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/bkcvs/linux-2.4/arch/ppc/ kernel/l2cr.S,v What is the benefit? Without L2 cache: Pythagoras:~# /etc/init.d/l2cr off;cat /proc/sys/kernel/l2cr;oggenc ppcnux.aif; oggenc ppcnux.aif 0x0016: L2 disabled, no parity, 2MB, clock disabled, flow-through burst SRAM, copy-back, 0.5ns hold Opening with aiff module: AIFF/AIFC file reader Encoding "ppcnux.aif" to "ppcnux.ogg" at quality 3.00 [ 99.2%] [ 0m00s remaining] \ Done encoding file "ppcnux.ogg" File length: 1m 12.0s Elapsed time: 0m 44.5s Rate: 1.6173 Average bitrate: 111.9 kb/s Opening with aiff module: AIFF/AIFC file reader Encoding "ppcnux.aif" to "ppcnux.ogg" at quality 3.00 [ 99.2%] [ 0m00s remaining] \ Done encoding file "ppcnux.ogg" File length: 1m 12.0s Elapsed time: 0m 44.5s Rate: 1.6169 Average bitrate: 111.9 kb/s With L2 Cache Pythagoras:~# /etc/init.d/l2cr set;cat /proc/sys/kernel/l2cr;oggenc ppcnux.aif; oggenc ppcnux.aif 0xa944: L2 enabled, no parity, 512KB, +2 clock, pipelined burst SRAM, copy-back, 0.5ns hold Opening with aiff module: AIFF/AIFC file reader Encoding "ppcnux.aif" to "ppcnux.ogg" at quality 3.00 [ 99.2%] [ 0m00s remaining] \ Done encoding file "ppcnux.ogg" File length: 1m 12.0s Elapsed time: 0m 32.0s Rate: 2.2511 Average bitrate: 111.9 kb/s Opening with aiff module: AIFF/AIFC file reader Encoding "ppcnux.aif" to "ppcnux.ogg" at quality 3.00 [ 99.2%] [ 0m00s remaining] \ Done encoding file "ppcnux.ogg" File length: 1m 12.0s Elapsed time: 0m 27.6s Rate: 2.6099 Average bitrate: 111.9 kb/s But are you quit sure to spend 200 bugs for an outdated upgrade card, miniMacs G4 are fine too ;-) Perhaps you'll get a OldWorld PowerMac (G3 or G3 upgraded) for much less? - --- Ralf Saalmüller Amonshöhe 26 97437 Hassfurt Germany PPCNUX-Team http://www.ppcnux.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFRMSXtKcsE7vsbMERArJnAJ0d+15nTUNxXlS4+Absr5o/zBXKIgCfYZ4m ZVyu3VJpj/49PFWPYs1WwyQ= =Hpk2 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: iMac G4- etch install iso - xorg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.09.2006 um 06:31 schrieb Benjamin Herrenschmidt: On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 18:45 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: On Tue, 2006-09-05 at 16:46 +0200, Ralf Saalmüller wrote: I think that there's one line missing in the xorg.conf: Section "Module" Load"fbdevhw" ... EndSection After I insert the "Load "fbdevhw"" the accelerated nv driver came on on the whole TFT screen and working. If this line is really necessary, that's a bug in the nv driver. It should load the fbdevhw module automatically when it needs it. Most of the time, "nv" shouldn't need fbdev at all anyway... But from the initial post, it's totally unclear what exact machine model this user has and which video chip it's using... Ben. That can be solved: cat /proc/cpuinfo: processor : 0 cpu : 7450, altivec supported clock : 800.00MHz revision: 0.1 (pvr 8000 0201) bogomips: 49.79 timebase: 24959250 machine : PowerMac4,2 motherboard : PowerMac4,2 MacRISC2 MacRISC Power Macintosh detected as : 258 (Flat panel iMac) pmac flags : 0001 L2 cache: 256K unified pmac-generation : NewWorld lspci -vvv :00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea AGP Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes Capabilities: :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 248 (1250ns min, 250ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 48 Region 0: Memory at 9100 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Region 1: Memory at 9800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Expansion ROM at 9000 [disabled] [size=64K] Capabilities: 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea PCI Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea Mac I/O Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes Region 0: Memory at 8000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] 0001:10:18.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16 (750ns min, 21500ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 27 Region 0: Memory at 80081000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 0001:10:19.0 USB Controller: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Pangea USB (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16 (750ns min, 21500ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 28 Region 0: Memory at 8008 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 0002:20:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea Internal PCI Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16, Cache Line Size: 32 bytes 0002:20:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea FireWire (prog-if 10 [OHCI]) Subsystem: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea FireWire Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16 (3000ns min, 6000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 40 Region 0: Memory at f500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Capabilities: 0002:20:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. UniNorth/Pangea GMAC (Sun GEM) Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=slow >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 16 (16000ns min, 16000ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 41
Re: iMac G4- etch install iso - xorg
Dear debian powerpc fellows with iMacs G4 TFT It's working! I think that there's one line missing in the xorg.conf: Section "Module" Load"fbdevhw" ... EndSection After I insert the "Load "fbdevhw"" the accelerated nv driver came on on the whole TFT screen and working. I could not switch back to consoles, but that's another problem. The Monitor Section that does work looks like this: Section "Monitor" Identifier "Color LCD" Option "DPMS" HorizSync 27.0 - 49.0 VertRefresh 60.0 - 60.0 EndSection Complete xorg.conf as attachment. Best regards, hope I could help someone else Ralf --- Ralf Saalmüller Amonshöhe 26 97437 Hassfurt Germany PPCNUX-Team http://www.ppcnux.org xorg.conf-iMac-G4-15tft Description: Binary data
Re: iMac G4- etch install iso - xorg
Hello at debian, I don't like to bother, but there are "features" in the X setup. As told by brian and as I had to reinstall a crashed hard disk on an iMac G3/500 (diffrent computer!) I tried the latest debian powerpc sarge netinstall CD. Out of the box the xfree86 server is broken for the iMac G3/500, too. I even tried kernel 2.4 and a lot of different settings and options without any luck. As I got an xfree86 setup running on another PowerMac 8500 I copied that and put the things in for the iMac. And X came up. I don't got the "ati" driver to work, only "fbdev". To be precise, the "ati" driver only shows a very dark flicker of some letters. There is now error and the xserver is up but not usable. After putting some settings into the "monitor" device, even the original sarge XF86Config-4 does work with "fbdev". The xfree86 setup will work with either one of the following settings: Section "Monitor" Identifier "iMac 15 crt" HorizSync 60 VertRefresh 60-75 Option "DPMS" EndSection or Section "Monitor" Identifier "iMac 15 crt" HorizSync 30-68 VertRefresh 50-85 Option "DPMS" EndSection The complete XF86Config-4 is attached. I know that the xfree86 setup worked sometimes back in time. I know that the X setup doesn't work any more for the iMac G3 and iMac G4 with debian or ubuntu. And I wonder why? I'm looking forward to solve the etch xorg iMac G4 probs while updating the G3 to etch too. Best regards, Ralf --- Ralf Saalmüller Amonshöhe 26 97437 Hassfurt Germany PPCNUX-Team http://www.ppcnux.org XF86Config-4 Description: Binary data
Re: iMac G4- etch install iso - xorg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I don't think that an X11 server is linked to magic. I hope there are logical reasons why a direct installation won't run and that I don't depend on superstition, in need to install sarge first. After I changed the video card driver from "nv" to "fbdev" the xorg starts and doesn't break in the middle. But the display is compressed and 1/3 of the TFT area is of the kind of black emptiness. Once again, the changes in xorg.conf had to be done via a text editor. dpkg-reconfigure doesn't write the changes to the file. I know that the broken Ubuntu G4 Xorg support (unrelated with the big X11 crush?) might be due to kernel problems, because the Ubuntu Xorg X11 server worked with a homebrew stable 2.6.17.11 kernel from ppckernel.org but NOT with the 2.6.15 flavor of Ubuntu. Might this be the same problem here, too? Ralf - --- Ralf Saalmüller Amonshöhe 26 97437 Hassfurt Germany PPCNUX-Team http://www.ppcnux.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFE8q8ztKcsE7vsbMERAkjtAJ9XA/seMbM4wN8BuRfA12OY1yGE4gCggs9I wGif5Se3gMitQ7tbuYn0IPU= =Le57 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
iMac G4- etch install iso - xorg
Hello at DebianPPC, after I was done with Ubuntu DapperDrake on my iMac G4/800 I tried the current Debain etch install-iso and was very pleased. Not only that everything worked, it worked as expected. Even Xorg, which don't start. What about the following message that keeps disturbing the terminal / console: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command sr 0:0:0:0: command: Read Capacity (10): 25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Looks like it found the external Firewire DVD burner. I don't care if it's a bug or a feature, but how can I stop it without disconnecting the external burner? Back to Xorg. It won't start out of the box. Same thing as Ubuntu, I managed that somehow. But now I don't have a glue and I don't find any information within the Xorg.0.log what's gone wrong. Furthermore, I can't change the xorg.conf via dpkg-reconfigure. Xorg.0.log as attachment. Thank you for any help. Ralf Xorg.0.log Description: Binary data --- Ralf Saalmüller Amonshöhe 26 97437 Hassfurt Germany PPCNUX-TEAM http://www.ppcnux.org PGP.sig Description: Signierter Teil der Nachricht
missing mouse keys with an Apple adb mouse
Hello, as I haven't found a PowerPC, PMac nor mouse HOWTO I fear I have to ask here. Again and boring I fear. As I found lately I do need the second and third mouse keys :-( Of course best thing is to buy a mouse with enough keys, the Kensigton mice and trackballs should be supported (told the hardware support web page somewhere at penguinppc.org) But until I got that mouse (from ebay?), is there a way to emulate those keys (control+klick or something else) and how can I set it up? Thanks in advance, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X, german ADB keyboard and ALT-GER
Hello, I'm sure I 'm boring, but I couldn't help. The woody installation script is very good now (not regarding the loop). I get a good working but still Wintel-German keyboard layout as standard and it even keeps it :-) But now I have installed XFree86 4.1.0 and I miss some keys in X. It's the | "pipe sign" (or bar I think), the @ "at" at most and the \ backslash too. But Umlauts are working. I fear that the X keymapping somehow lost the ALT-GER (right alt key) binding it got in the console (not xterm or terminal window in X). Just do delete it (xmodmap) as binding to mod1 hasn't solved the problem. As I'm not frankophone a good workaraound would be to xmodmap the @ and | values (which are?) to the key left of backspace. Thanks for any help!!! Ralf BTW: I have 3 PMac running debian GNU/Linux and the now one with XFree86. 2 boxes have a MP cpu cards and are doing better than unter MacOS (Especially because BenH told the tricks). Thanks to all and Ben! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SMP Kernel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb am ÒRe: SMP KernelÓ. [2002-04-18 12:17] > >Is this true? Does kernel 2.4.18 only work with multisync monitors? > > Did you try giving an explicit vmode argument to the kernel ? It's > possible that the kernel fails to probe the monitor type. I bought a multisync monitor :-( BTW I bought a cheap Miro branded Monitor that doesn't show anything on two diffrent Mac2VGA adapters. A NoName Monitor only works with a hard coded Mac (like 1024*768) setup but not with a multiple setup (like 640*480 or 832*624 or ...) :-( > >Ethernet: > >With dmesg I found that kernel 2.4.18 find the Asante ethernet card (DEC > >chip) at first (eth0) and the Mac MACE ethernet mainboard interface as > > the second one (eth1). But when I installed woody the kernel 2.2.20 set > > up the Apple MACE as eth0 and the Asante Dec chip as eth1. Vice Versa! > > Well, device initialisation order is... random. Sorry, there isn't > much to do about this, except maybe having both as modules and only > loading the one you need. I just think about having set up a DSL router to a local 100MBit Lan with kernel 2.2. After the switch to kernel 2.4 your 100MBit card tries to connect to the DSL ISP and the onboard 10MBit card tries to set up a dsl connection with your router. Great! > That should work, you should try harder I beleive to find what's going on. > I noticed that sometimes, the MACE is fucked up after boot and won't > receive/send anything useful. I seems that can also be triggered by some > DHCP clients, though I haven't yet found what's wrong. Perhaps a little more light to this point. The Asante (DEC/Tulip chipset) ethernet card, which is now set to eth0 and is corresponding to the one and only configuration in /etc/network/interfaces doesn't work after reboot (no ping). dmesg prints that the NIC is set up to 10baseT??? After disconecting the patch cable and replug, everthing works fine. But that's not funny, replugin every debian/GNU Linux Box after reboot?!?! > >SMP: > How do you boot ? quik (OF) or BootX ? If you boot with BootX and your > MacOS is more recent than 8.1, you will have problems getting the second > CPU to start as it will have been hijacked by MacOS. ATTENTION - IMPORTANT This three lines of hardcore information is missing with every pmac smp kernel. It look like it's true. Because of problems with quik I set up debian/GNU Linux from the start. And after I rebooted with the kernel-image- 2.4.18-powerpc-smp and with quik I got 2 Tux (2 cpus in /proc/cpuinfo)!!! If I had this 3 lines of information 3 month ago it would have saved me at least 2 weeks of trying. PLEASE get this 3 lines into the dselect info with every pmac smp kernel image!!! If you haved guessed right now, some Mac Users who like to try Linux might be suspicious and like to boot from MacOS (BootX) into Linux. And will be frustrated if the MP doesn't work ;-) QUIK: As I said I got a working MP setup and lost it when I tried to compile a custom kernel. Somehow I must have lost the quik bootloader. I tried at least 4 times to set it back again without success. Neither quik nor quikconfig worked. Every reboot brought up MacOS from /dev/sdb instead of debian/GNU Linux from /dev/sda. But the base-config quik bootloader does work. Where's the diffrence? Thank's for your great help! Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMP Kernel
Hello, it look like I need some ... help, piece of advice or a word of wisdom. One PMac 7500 with a 604e is already working as a local squid proxy with debian GNU/Linux woody. Befor that I got a 8500 180MP doing the same job until a disc crash. It worked with both cpus, but I lost that kernel :-( Now after sampling some spare parts for a second PMac 7500 debian GNU/Linux box, I tried to set up a working MP machine that should use a Asante 100MBit ethernet card. Installation and working with woody and kernel 2.2.20 was easy and without major problems. With dselect I found and installed a kernel-image 2.4.18 powerpc-smp. And three problems are hunting me now. Here they are: Display: I have an old 16" Apple Display, no multisync. It works great with kernel 2.2.20. Booting with kernel 2.4.18 shows only a flickering display (no sync). Somewhere I read that the PMac 7500 has a broken OpenFirmware that need to be patched. Done and no difference. It look like this patch came from the NetBSD team and there I found that after the patch that OpenFirmware will sync with 640*400 60HZ!?!?! Is this true? Does kernel 2.4.18 only work with multisync monitors? Ethernet: The Asante 10/100 Fast Ethernet card works with kernel 2.2.20. I took one or two reboots (no display, read the previous point) until I thought about trrying the old mianboard MACE port. Right! Perhaps this is a bug. With dmesg I found that kernel 2.4.18 find the Asante ethernet card (DEC chip) at first (eth0) and the Mac MACE ethernet mainboard interface as the second one (eth1). But when I installed woody the kernel 2.2.20 set up the Apple MACE as eth0 and the Asante Dec chip as eth1. Vice Versa!!! "OK" I thought, "change it". I type (without a display) the ifconfig orders to change the interface. It worked until reboot. I tried kernel arguments with bootx, no go. I edit the /etc/network/interfaces so that 2 equal settings for eth0 and eth1 are found -> NO GO. The question is: How can I tell kernel 2.4.18 to use the kernel 2.2.20 interface and network setting? SMP: After installing woody and setting up the base system I installed the dselect kernel image 2.4.18 powerpc-smp. After I worked around the previous bugs/features I found that I've got 2 CPUs working (cat /proc/cpuinfo showed 2). Then I tried to get a better smp kernel with at least one error less (display or ethernet card). To put it in a nutshell, neither kernel 2.2.20 nor the original or patched kernel 2.4.18 compiled to a working smp kernel (I used the /boot/config* files as a start for kernel compilation). What's worth. After I tried those smp kernels without success, even the purged and newly installed kernel image 2.4.18 smp won't work. dmesg says: entering smp, cpu 1 stuck !!! What's going wrong? After a new setup from ground the smp kernel image was working and after trying to compile and use a custom kernel, even the kernel image is broken? And I set back the P-RAM more then 10 times. What's wrong? In the end I might ask some of the gurus: Does it make sense to allow to change from kernel 2.2 to kernel 2.4 when the hardware isn't recognized the same way? Wouldn't it be a _very_ good idea to do a woody/kernel-2.2 and a woody/kernel-2.4 distribution? But don't get me wrong. I have the greatest respect and I'm completly surprised in an absolutly positiv way of the debian/GNU program and the personal time everyone spend for that. Your's Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]