Re: unbreaking LibreOffices tests on at least release architectures
On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 10:32:55AM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: >Hi, > >Am 18.06.23 um 10:19 schrieb John Paul Adrian Glaubitz: >> On Sun, 2023-06-18 at 09:31 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote: >> > Also note I am not talking about the debian-ports architectures. Those I >> > forgot and I have no problems making them stay into "testsuite ran but >> > results ignored" set. >> Why did you send this mail exclusively to debian-ports then? > >I (obviously) wrongly assumed that this was the magic address which >duplicates to every port. > >Must have misremembered. It still does - I got this copy via the debian-arm list... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "This dress doesn't reverse." -- Alden Spiess
Re: iso image for PPC G4 700MHz
Hi Stefano, On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 10:38:09AM +0200, RiseUp wrote: >Hello, > >I'm trying an installation on an old iMac PowerPC G4 700MHz. > >If you know an iso image doing this witrh a size less ro equal 700MB (to >record it on a CD), I'll be gratefull. You'd be better asking the porters on the powerpc list, we've not maintained official CD releases for old powerpc images for some time. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "You can't barbecue lettuce!" -- Ellie Crane
Re: Releasing ppc64el cloud images with Buster
On Fri, Jun 07, 2019 at 02:23:54PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: >Hi > >Do we want to release ppc64el cloud images with Buster? > >They work for me but only got minimal test coverage. Do we know if anybody is using them at all? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Dance like no one's watching. Encrypt like everyone is. - @torproject
Re: installing NETINST 20190127 on Mac mini G4
[ Interjecting a little... ] Adrian wrote: > >Plus, having working and usable hfsprogs is still desirable because >Macs tend to have HFS partitions, independent of the bootloader. > >Another difference between Yaboot and hfsprogs is that the latter is >no longer part of unstable while hfsprogs is. Yaboot has to be maintained >manually and uploaded manually for each architecture where it is needed. >hfsprogs is maintained from a single source and automatically built by >the buildds. Yaboot has to live in "unrelease", hfsprogs can live in >"unstable". This means extra maintenance burden for me because no one >else would either be willing or have the necessary permissions to upload >to "unreleased". > >So, again, unless there are really compelling arguments for using Yaboot >or SILO except for personal preference, I do absolutely see no reason >why I should carry the additional maintenance burden for it. Right. That's important. Similarly, we've been discussing removing support for lilo on x86. It's dead (again!) upstream and there's no good reason or motivation for us to continue working on it. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Who needs computer imagery when you've got Brian Blessed?
Re: debian-installer now available in Ports
On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 01:55:08PM +0100, Steven Chamberlain wrote: >John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Thus, I was wondering whether any volunteers would be willing to help >> building >> ISO images for the various architectures. > >I'm already doing this for kfreebsd-amd64, but only the jessie-kfreebsd >suite: >http://jenkins.kfreebsd.eu/jenkins/view/cd/job/debian-cd_jessie-kfreebsd/lastBuild/console >and I had to patch debian-cd before it worked. (Didn't yet find time to >file bugs or submit those patches). Please post them! >I could probably set up similar jobs for kfreebsd-* sid now. > >> It's not necessary to run debian-cd on the same architecture as the >> target architecture of the ISO images. Exactly. There are sometimes difficulties with the tools needed to set up boot files etc., but they tend to be portable. >I did not even realise that. So I will add kfreebsd-i386 next. > >I expect there might be problems trying to build linux arches from a >kfreebsd host. But we should try to find out, and then maybe fix it. We were happily building kfreebsd-* images from a Linux host, so I'd expect it to work OK. I've offered before: I don't have the time personally to work on building ports images, but I'm more than happy to help other people getting them building on our official infrastructure... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Who needs computer imagery when you've got Brian Blessed?
Re: Fwd: Release Architectures for Debian 9 'Stretch'
ma...@debian.org wrote: >Anyone has a summary of the powerpc specific discussion ? The meeting log is at http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-release/2016/debian-release.2016-10-30-20.00.log.html -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline, Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud.
Re: Time to change the debian-ports "list"?
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 05:38:17PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 01:40:20PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:51:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:01:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >> >>Alexander Wirt dixit: >> >> >> >>>Could you please (technically) summarize what needs to be done from >> >>>listmaster side? >> >> >> >>1. Remove whatever debian-po...@lists.debian.org is right now >> >> >> >>2. Create a new debian-po...@lists.debian.org mailing list which >> >> works just like the other regular lists >> >> >> >>3. Announce the new debian-po...@lists.debian.org so that people >> >> can subscribe to it; document that there is no longer >> >> an address to reach *all* ports but that people should >> >> eMail the individual ports’ lists (and cross-post if >> >> needed, but only to the amount needed), and that the >> >> new debian-po...@lists.debian.org instead is a mailing list for >> >> discussion about >> >> a) debian-ports.org infrastructure >> >> b) porting Debian in general >> >> c) questions related to setting up a Debian port, >> >> including wanna-build, buildd, etc. > >That seems like a bad idea to me, tbh. There will be people who won't >notice that the meaning of debian-ports@ has changed, and who will try >to use it with its old meaning. > >If there are problems with the current meaning of debian-ports, can't we >just retire the old alias and create a list under a different name? Is there much point to that? I've not heard anybody at all speak up in favour of the existing behaviour. If anybody does use try to use it that way in future, the new list will most likely be the best place for their mail to go... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "I used to be the first kid on the block wanting a cranial implant, now I want to be the first with a cranial firewall. " -- Charlie Stross -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150722170456.gc5...@einval.com
Re: Time to change the debian-ports "list"?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:51:29PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:01:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >>Alexander Wirt dixit: >> >>>Could you please (technically) summarize what needs to be done from >>>listmaster side? >> >>1. Remove whatever debian-po...@lists.debian.org is right now >> >>2. Create a new debian-po...@lists.debian.org mailing list which >> works just like the other regular lists >> >>3. Announce the new debian-po...@lists.debian.org so that people >> can subscribe to it; document that there is no longer >> an address to reach *all* ports but that people should >> eMail the individual ports’ lists (and cross-post if >> needed, but only to the amount needed), and that the >> new debian-po...@lists.debian.org instead is a mailing list for >> discussion about >> a) debian-ports.org infrastructure >> b) porting Debian in general >> c) questions related to setting up a Debian port, >> including wanna-build, buildd, etc. > >That's exactly it, yes. Thanks. :-) Hi Alexander et al,, Could we make a start on this please? More discussions on the d-ports expander today have reminded me how annoying the current setup is. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." -- Daniel Pead -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150717124020.ga13...@einval.com
Ports pages need updating on www.d.o
Hi folks, I've been trying to help out a bit with the port pages (under https://www.debian.org/ports/), starting with the ARM ports. We could really do with updating a lot of the information here - it's so old it's starting to smell bad! I've removed some of the older details (e.g. hardware support) that used to be under https://www.debian.org/ports/arm and replaced them with pointers to the wiki now. My reasoning here is that the wiki is more easily updated for more dynamic content like this, plus it's much easier for the wider community to contribute that way. I'd suggest that most of the other port pages would be better organised like this too, but that's a decision for porters to make for themselves. We also need to work on some of the other content around here. For example, the top-level ports page is still listing the ports from Wheezy rather than Jessie. Please take a look. In the webwml source, there's even a file to list maintainers for the various port pages. Until I touched it today, it hadn't been modified since 2005. It's clearly not very useful at the moment! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "I suspect most samba developers are already technically insane... Of course, since many of them are Australians, you can't tell." -- Linus Torvalds -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150428223702.go21...@einval.com
Re: Help with the arm64 and ppc64el installation-guides needed
On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 06:13:50PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: >Hello everybody, > >the release date for Jessie is near, but the installation-guide >does not seem to contain any arm64/ppc64el-specific information >yet. It would be nice if those who are familiar with those >platforms could provide patches against the installation guide, >so that we can release with proper documentation. > >At least some basic information about the supported hardware >for the overview at > >https://jenkins.debian.net/userContent/installation-guide/installation-guide-arm64/en/ch02s01.html >https://jenkins.debian.net/userContent/installation-guide/installation-guide-ppc64el/en/ch02s01.html For arm64, we have a generic kernel that (modulo DTB) should work on all the supportable hardware, similar to i386 and amd64. I'd leave this section blank for arm64, like for the x86 maybe? Or would people rather see some text to describe the hardware as a single flavour, like for the ppc64el case? >and information about available boot methods at > >https://jenkins.debian.net/userContent/installation-guide/installation-guide-ppc64el/en/ch05s01.html >https://jenkins.debian.net/userContent/installation-guide/installation-guide-arm64/en/ch05s01.html > >would be nice. Currently all documentation in the arm64/ppc64el >versions of the installation guide describes only the >corresponding 32bit-Platforms. Right. This section is definitely going to need work for arm64, to describe both U-Boot and UEFI boot options across platforms. I'm looking it now, but it's going to need some time. I'm hoping to be able to re-use some of the existing content from amd64 and armhf, at least... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "I've only once written 'SQL is my bitch' in a comment. But that code is in use on a military site..." -- Simon Booth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150412230508.gj1...@einval.com
Re: Adding ppc64el support in debian-cd
On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 12:33:01AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >Hi Steve, > >On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:02:34AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 10:47:10PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> > The tarball should be decompressed in the root of the CD-ROM, while the >> > kernel and initrd should be placed in the /install directory. The ISO >> > image should be generated with the --chrp-boot argument. Beside that the >> > default options of genisoimage should be used, there is no need to >> > specify any strange HFS option like on powerpc (Note: I only tested that >> > on a VM using SLOF, it will be nice if someone with access to bare metal >> > can confirm that). >> > >> > Don't hesitate to ask more details if needed. I will tell you once GRUB >> > is fixed and all these files are in place on d-i.debian.org. >> >> GRUB is now fixed, and the latest daily build of d-i does have the CDROM >> files available: >> >> http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/ppc64el/daily/cdrom/ > >Please find attached a patch to add ppc64el support to debian-cd. Could >you please merge it? Done, and pushed. I've also just added ppc64el to the daily and weekly build config - let's see how well it works! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2014100304.gi12...@einval.com
Re: Adding ppc64el support in debian-cd
On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:57:44AM -0300, Mauricio Faria de Oliveira wrote: >On 09/22/2014 12:00 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: >>On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 06:19:43PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>>I'm adding support for new architectures at the moment. powerpc is one >>>of the most awkward existing arches to add boot support for at the >>>moment, due to the mess of older machines. I'm hoping that ppc64el is >>>better, but I don't have much information to go on. What should we be >>>doing to make bootable CD/DVD/USB images for ppc64el, please? > >Aurelien and Paulo know more about the bootable status/steps than me. > >I believe that w/ the grub2 and klibc uploads from this last weekend, >it's almost there. There's powerpc-utils & util-linux coming in from >DELAYED in 2 days & 5 days. OK, cool. >>I thought only power8 machines were able to run ppc64el so far, and >>those would be openfirmware I imagine (every other IBM power machine I >>have worked with was). > >Yes, ppc64el runs on POWER8 onwards with OpenFirmware based firmware. Right. I'll start working based on that shortly. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "You can't barbecue lettuce!" -- Ellie Crane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140922130929.ga27...@einval.com
Adding ppc64el support in debian-cd
Hi folks, I'm adding support for new architectures at the moment. powerpc is one of the most awkward existing arches to add boot support for at the moment, due to the mess of older machines. I'm hoping that ppc64el is better, but I don't have much information to go on. What should we be doing to make bootable CD/DVD/USB images for ppc64el, please? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Who needs computer imagery when you've got Brian Blessed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140921171943.gi7...@einval.com
Re: Fixing buildd issues on ppc64el
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 02:13:43PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: >On Thu, 11 Sep 2014, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 01:02:52PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: >> >Hi, >> > >> >status update, we have these 4 left: >> > >> >* Aurelien Jarno (aure...@debian.org) [140908 14:20]: >> >> bzr#760054 ftbfs (non ppc64el specific) #760054 >> > >> >I'm not sure if we still need bzr on new systems. >> >> You're kidding, surely? > >So you think bzr needs to be installed on every debian.org system? Sprry, misunderstanding... :-/ -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "Because heaters aren't purple!" -- Catherine Pitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140911121813.gl14...@einval.com
Re: Time to change the debian-ports "list"?
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 07:01:00PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: >Alexander Wirt dixit: > >>Could you please (technically) summarize what needs to be done from >>listmaster side? > >1. Remove whatever debian-po...@lists.debian.org is right now > >2. Create a new debian-po...@lists.debian.org mailing list which > works just like the other regular lists > >3. Announce the new debian-po...@lists.debian.org so that people > can subscribe to it; document that there is no longer > an address to reach *all* ports but that people should > eMail the individual ports’ lists (and cross-post if > needed, but only to the amount needed), and that the > new debian-po...@lists.debian.org instead is a mailing list for > discussion about > a) debian-ports.org infrastructure > b) porting Debian in general > c) questions related to setting up a Debian port, > including wanna-build, buildd, etc. That's exactly it, yes. Thanks. :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "I suspect most samba developers are already technically insane... Of course, since many of them are Australians, you can't tell." -- Linus Torvalds -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2014095129.gg14...@einval.com
Re: Fixing buildd issues on ppc64el
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 01:02:52PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: >Hi, > >status update, we have these 4 left: > >* Aurelien Jarno (aure...@debian.org) [140908 14:20]: >> bzr#760054 ftbfs (non ppc64el specific) #760054 > >I'm not sure if we still need bzr on new systems. You're kidding, surely? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." -- Daniel Pead -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2014090609.gd14...@einval.com
Re: Time to change the debian-ports "list"?
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 06:39:10PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >Hi folks, > >I believe the existing debian-ports setup (as an exploder pointing to >all the different port lists) is not working well at all. It's a >confusing setup to many people, which leads to lots of cross-list >noise that's probably not warranted. Some of the traffic is also >clearly meant to be discussing the debian-ports setup itself rather >than individual ports, and that's also off-topic for those ports that >are in the main archive. So, I propose: > > * Remove the confusion: turn debian-ports into a separate *normal* > mailing list, announce it and let people subscribe to it as they > see fit normally. This would be specifically for "discussions about > ports.debian.org and architectures hosted there". > > * Explicitly do *not* add another exploder to replace the old > address: instead, *if* we want something to cover this use case, > add a new list that interested people can subscribe to. Maybe > "debian-cross-ports" or "debian-architectures" or something. Please > feel free to suggest a better name! If such a list were to be set > up, we could/should encourage existing architecture porters to sign > up there too. > >Thoughts? Any dissenting opinions? Listmasters - are you happy to change things like I propose? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline, Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140910150520.go24...@einval.com
Time to change the debian-ports "list"?
Hi folks, I believe the existing debian-ports setup (as an exploder pointing to all the different port lists) is not working well at all. It's a confusing setup to many people, which leads to lots of cross-list noise that's probably not warranted. Some of the traffic is also clearly meant to be discussing the debian-ports setup itself rather than individual ports, and that's also off-topic for those ports that are in the main archive. So, I propose: * Remove the confusion: turn debian-ports into a separate *normal* mailing list, announce it and let people subscribe to it as they see fit normally. This would be specifically for "discussions about ports.debian.org and architectures hosted there". * Explicitly do *not* add another exploder to replace the old address: instead, *if* we want something to cover this use case, add a new list that interested people can subscribe to. Maybe "debian-cross-ports" or "debian-architectures" or something. Please feel free to suggest a better name! If such a list were to be set up, we could/should encourage existing architecture porters to sign up there too. Thoughts? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905173910.gf17...@einval.com
Re: Results of the porter roll call (Was: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing)
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 04:07:25PM +0100, Wookey wrote: >+++ Niels Thykier [2013-10-02 09:45 +0200]: >> Hi, >> >> The final results are in: >> >> Summary table: >> Arch || DDs || NMs/DMs || Other || Total >> ---++-++-++---++-- >> armel || 3 || 0 || 1 ||4 >> armhf || 3 || 1 || 2 ||6 > >> armel: Wookey (DD), Gatis Visnevskis (!DD), Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (DD), Steve >> McIntyre (DD) >> armhf: Jeremiah Foster (!DD, but NM?), Wookey (DD), Justus Winter (!DD), >> Lennart Sorensen (!DD), Nobuhiro Iwamatsu (DD), Steve McIntyre (DD) > >I am surprised not to see Riku Voipio and Hector Oron on this list as >I know they help manage the buildds and Riku signs uploads. I don't >know if they are trying to escape, or just being too slack to send >mail :-) > >> arm64: Wookey (DD), Steve McInture (DD) > >There are other DDs working on this too (Doko and Riku >particularly), but again they are probably trying to avoid getting >any more formal responsibilities. :-) *grin* I guess so... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131002151044.gk14...@einval.com
Re: How to make a custom installer CD/DVD/BD/USB-stick?
[ Just seen this thread, apologies for delayed responses ] On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:40:54PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote: > >On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Brian wrote: > >>Well wouldn't documentation for Jigdo template be in Jigdo package? > >The jigdo template is a lot lower level than I was hoping for. It's >kinda like the object code, where I'm looking for the high-level >language source code and a compiler to produce the object code from >it. Correct. >It's theoretically possible to edit the jigdo template, and all the >binary parts it contains, just as it's theoretically possible to edit >the java byte-code for a subroutine that almost does what you want -- >but it's much more convenient (and comprehensible) to edit the java >source code. What I'm hoping for is that there's something like a >compiler that takes a human understandable specification, in the form >of list of packages and other configurable components of an installer >CD/DVD/BD/etc, and outputs a jigdo template (or such) that implements >that specification. > >I'm hoping that's exactly what simple-cdd is. simple-cdd is meant to do that kind of thing AFAIK, yes. Alternatively, debian-cd is the core package that we use for creating the main Debian images. It's very flexible and (sorry!) not particularly well documented... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." -- Daniel Pead -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130917231048.gt14...@einval.com
Help with Wheezy CD testing on Saturday
Hi folks, As we're expecting to release this Saturday (4th May) and I'm going to be preparing the CDs and DVDs to go with the release, it would be lovely if we have some volunteers to help test the images. We have been doing testing of the daily, weekly and Release Candidate images as they're produced, but it would be nice to get more coverage in the testing, especially: * non-PC architectures * more obscure combinations of options like partitioning, filesystems etc. * different desktops with differing package sets I've started a wiki page at https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianCD/ReleaseTesting/Wheezy and I'll be filling in more details there in the next couple of days, including some specific configurations that I'd like to see tested. If you can help us test on Saturday, please take a look and join me in #debian-cd where we'll be coordinating. Cheers, -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "Managing a volunteer open source project is a lot like herding kittens, except the kittens randomly appear and disappear because they have day jobs." -- Matt Mackall -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130502012910.gb28...@einval.com
Re: Choice of Desktop environment at install time using netinst CD.
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 12:49:54AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: > ># cat /proc/cmdline # in the F2 console during the installation >ro ramdisk_size=10240 desktop=kde -- > >It installed kde as expected. > >I'm not sure what the "--" is all about. It was not present when I >installed with the "netinst" CD and typed >expert desktop=xfce >at the "boot:" prompt. As noted, that installed xfce4. So the -- >may not be strictly necessary. > >Take a look at the stuff in /install/yaboot.conf on the install CDs. >I think that's where all this is originating from. OK, cool. Thanks for confirming. I've taken your text, tweaked slightly, and added it into debian-cd. I've also added some code to work out the default desktop so we can list that. I'm building a weekly powerpc set right now with the changes in - please test and make sure all works OK? I can see the code looks ok from here, but I don't have easy access to a powerpc machine to be able to check that text fits on screen correctly, silly things like that... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130307081631.gh8...@einval.com
Re: Choice of Desktop environment at install time using netinst CD.
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 01:46:06PM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: >On Mar 3, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >>Gah. Looking further, at the moment I don't see how (if at all) the >>powerpc boot stuff passes through any of the kernel boot options to >>specify a default task. Rick, what happens if you try with kde CD#1 >>right now? Does it actually do KDE, or does it still default to Gnome? >> >>I'm glad you're thinking of things here, it's been a while since we've >>had many people interested in ppc stuff like this! :-) > >I'll try it. > >Just to be clear -- What you want me to do is download and burn the >RC1 KDE CD#1 install CD. > >Boot it. > >Take the default "install" option at the "boot:" prompt. > >Look at the /proc/cmdline from a text console during the install >process. > >Wait til it gets to running tasksel. > >Leave "desktop task" checked. > >Watch and see what desktop it installs. > >Report back here. > > Right? That's exactly correct, yes! :-) Thanks for helping with this, it's great! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Google-bait: http://www.debian.org/CD/free-linux-cd Debian does NOT ship free CDs. Please do NOT contact the mailing lists asking us to send them to you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304010722.gd17...@einval.com
Re: Choice of Desktop environment at install time using netinst CD.
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 02:58:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 02:52:50PM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 12:56:10AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: >>> >>>The following desktop environments are available: >>>gnome, kde, xfce and lxde. The default is gnome. >>>If you prefer a different one, append >>>"desktop=" >>>E.g. to do an expert install with the xfce desktop >>>environment, type >>>"expert desktop=xfce" >>>at the "boot:" prompt. >>> >>>Would it help if I submit a wishlist bug report? If so, which package? >> >>The message there comes from debian-cd, so I'm simply adding it now. > >Ahh, hmmm. It should probably be modified appropriately at runtime, in >fact, so we say the right thing on each variant of the CD. I'll tweak >it to do that now. Gah. Looking further, at the moment I don't see how (if at all) the powerpc boot stuff passes through any of the kernel boot options to specify a default task. Rick, what happens if you try with kde CD#1 right now? Does it actually do KDE, or does it still default to Gnome? I'm glad you're thinking of things here, it's been a while since we've had many people interested in ppc stuff like this! :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "You can't barbecue lettuce!" -- Ellie Crane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303150324.gc17...@einval.com
Re: Choice of Desktop environment at install time using netinst CD.
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 02:52:50PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: >On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 12:56:10AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >>The following desktop environments are available: >>gnome, kde, xfce and lxde. The default is gnome. >>If you prefer a different one, append >>"desktop=" >>E.g. to do an expert install with the xfce desktop >>environment, type >>"expert desktop=xfce" >>at the "boot:" prompt. >> >>Would it help if I submit a wishlist bug report? If so, which package? > >The message there comes from debian-cd, so I'm simply adding it now. Ahh, hmmm. It should probably be modified appropriately at runtime, in fact, so we say the right thing on each variant of the CD. I'll tweak it to do that now. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "Because heaters aren't purple!" -- Catherine Pitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303145854.gb17...@einval.com
Re: Choice of Desktop environment at install time using netinst CD.
On Sun, Mar 03, 2013 at 12:56:10AM -0800, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >>To be honest, it may be too late for Wheezy, but I guess it depends on >>how big the changes would be. > >I'm quite impressed with the effort you-all have put in on isolinux >and grub for x86. > >The yaboot bootloader for PowerPC doesn't have so much flexibility, >so if it is to be done, it has to be done brute force. Fortunately, >brute force works in this case. OK, cool! >All that's necessary to allow people to set the preferred desktop at >install time is to add the following couple of sentences to /install/boot.msg >: > >The following desktop environments are available: >gnome, kde, xfce and lxde. The default is gnome. >If you prefer a different one, append >"desktop=" >E.g. to do an expert install with the xfce desktop >environment, type >"expert desktop=xfce" >at the "boot:" prompt. > >Would it help if I submit a wishlist bug report? If so, which package? The message there comes from debian-cd, so I'm simply adding it now. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline, Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303145250.ga17...@einval.com
Re: Choice of Desktop environment at install time using netinst CD.
Rick Thomas wrote: > >With the amd64 netinst CD I have found a spot in the maze of helpful >"expert" options offered when the CD first boots that lets me choose >which Desktop Environment will be installed later on by tasksel. This >is really nice because it means I don't have to have a separate (and >much larger) CD image for each DE I might want to install. > >Unfortunately, the PowerPC[*] netinst installer has nothing comparable. > >How difficult would it be to provide an optional target (analogous to >"install" and "expert") in the yaboot configuration file, that defines >the preferred Desktop Environment? > >Or failing that, can the instructions be changed (similar to the >"video=ofonly" instruction) to tell people about a boot-time option to >set the preferred DE? > >Best of all, of course, would be to have tasksel provide a menu option >to let the user pick at runtime whether to use gnome or kde or xfce or >whatever, but that's been discussed before. > >Just thinking... > >Rick > >[*] Having only tried the PowerPC and amd64 installers, I don't have >any data on other architectures. Does anybody know how, for example, >SPARC or MIPS handle this problem? Basically, we put a lot of effort in for the isolinux-based x86 boot menus to give the options here. I've added code to debian-cd to convert those same menus into grub format for UEFI x86 booting. AFAIK none of the other arches have that support. If you'd like to play with yaboot and see if you can get it to play ball, I doubt anybody would be averse to adding that as a feature. :-) To be honest, it may be too late for Wheezy, but I guess it depends on how big the changes would be. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "It's actually quite entertaining to watch ag129 prop his foot up on the desk so he can get a better aim." [ seen in ucam.chat ] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1uatj8-m8...@mail.einval.com
Re: Bug#678066: Proposal to simplify PowerPC CD/DVD boot options
tags 678066 +pending
thanks
On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 01:22:19PM -0400, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
>On 08/04/2012 12:41 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:56:54PM -0400, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
>>> This is a Debian installation ${MEDIA_TYPE},
>>> built on ${BUILD_DATE}.
>>>
>>> +
>>> Enter one of the following options to begin:
>>>
>>> -install 32-bit processor (G4 or earlier)
>>> -install64 64-bit processor (G5 or IBM POWER3/4/5)
>>> -expert expert mode on 32-bit processor
>>> -expert64expert mode on 64-bit processor
>>> +install 64-bit processor (G5 or POWER3/4/5/6/7)
>>> +install32 32-bit processor (G4 or earlier)
>>
>> Is there a reason why you've dropped mention of the "expert" options
>> here?
>>
>
>Just to simplify the first screen. User has to pres TAB to see a full
>list of options, which is: install, expert, rescue, auto, install32,
>expert32, rescue32 and auto32.
ACK, ok. That's fair enough. Committing now so that the regular builds
will start to use it. Assuming that they test OK, will go into another
debian-cd package upload before wheezy.
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Re: Bug#678066: Proposal to simplify PowerPC CD/DVD boot options
Hi Milan,
On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 05:56:54PM -0400, Milan Kupcevic wrote:
>Package: debian-cd
>Tags: patch d-i wheezy
>Severity: wishlist
>
>Hello,
>
>I would like to propose a slight change in the way PowerPC CD/DVD boots.
OK...
>CD/DVD boot-script, which runs on PowerPC Mac machines, can detect
>whether it runs on 32-bit or 64-bit processor, then offer boot
>options accordingly. This proposed change makes 32-bit Macs offer
>32-bit boot options only. Therefore, pressing ENTER or typing
>'install' would load 32-bit kernel. On the other hand, 64-bit PowerPC
>Macs and IBM CHRP machines would offer 64-bit boot options by
>default. Therefore, pressing ENTER or typing 'install' would load
>64-bit kernel, but it would also offer 32-bit boot options such as
>install32 or expert32.
Right.
>Attached diff introduces two new files:
>
>boot32.msg - Boot prompt for 32-bit Macs.
>mac32.conf - Options offered on 32-bit Macs.
>
>Diff stats:
>
>data/wheezy/yaboot/boot.msg| 18 +--
>data/wheezy/yaboot/boot32.msg | 16 ++
>data/wheezy/yaboot/mac32.conf | 35 ++
>data/wheezy/yaboot/ofboot.b|9 +
>data/wheezy/yaboot/yaboot.conf | 54 +++---
>tools/boot/wheezy/boot-powerpc | 30 --
>6 files changed, 113 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-)
>
>Any comments?
Sounds sane enough, but I'm not an expert on ppc stuff. Question
below, though:
>Index: data/wheezy/yaboot/boot.msg
>===
>--- data/wheezy/yaboot/boot.msg(revision 2346)
>+++ data/wheezy/yaboot/boot.msg(working copy)
>@@ -3,16 +3,16 @@
> This is a Debian installation ${MEDIA_TYPE},
> built on ${BUILD_DATE}.
>
>+
> Enter one of the following options to begin:
>
>-install 32-bit processor (G4 or earlier)
>-install64 64-bit processor (G5 or IBM POWER3/4/5)
>-expert expert mode on 32-bit processor
>-expert64expert mode on 64-bit processor
>+install 64-bit processor (G5 or POWER3/4/5/6/7)
>+install32 32-bit processor (G4 or earlier)
Is there a reason why you've dropped mention of the "expert" options
here?
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Re: ISO For Recent Debian Squeeze
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:56:52PM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: >Hi there. > >On Jul 14 2010, Gary wrote: >> Although the discussion is hopefully helpful, I'm not sure anyone's >> actually answered Richard's original question re where to find squeeze >> installer ISOs... http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds > >Oh, Gosh. You are right. > >Finding the "I want to be a guinea pig" images is, sometimes, a not-so >obvious thing, if one goes to the expected place (cdimage.d.o). Some >links, in no particular order: > >* http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/ >* http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/ >* http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_live_alpha1/ The testing images are linked directly from pages around http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ >BTW, just a naïve question for those at debian-cd: is there any >(intended :-)) reason why the daily-builds for a given arch (say, >powerpc) also lists some other arches as subdirectories? Say: > >* http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/powerpc/ >* http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/powerpc/alpha/ >* http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/powerpc/arm/ Hmmm. There's been a screwup somewhere then - this clearly shouldn't happen. Thanks for the report! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Welcome my son, welcome to the machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100714231236.gb4...@einval.com
Re: Multi-arch netinst getting too big
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:45:12PM -0700, Chris Reich wrote: > >This powerpc user would rather not see powerpc dropped from the >netinstall disk but accepts that it may be the time to do it in the >interests of the much larger number of x86 based hardware in the >wild. Yup. There will still be a standalone powerpc netinst, but we may have to drop it from the multi-arch disk. I'm hoping to be able to find savings elsewhere, but it's tight. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "Because heaters aren't purple!" -- Catherine Pitt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100709114929.gd3...@einval.com
Re: Multi-arch netinst getting too big
[ Added cc: to debian-powerpc for help... ] On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 08:44:15AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote: >On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 22:46 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 03:45:31PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >Steve McIntyre writes: >> >> >> >> The netinsts are meant to have the base system, yes. I can't see >> >> anything obvious myself that we can drop. Maybe time to give up on >> >> powerpc on that image, like we've done on the m-a DVD. Shame, but >> >> there's only so much stuff we can accommodate here. Anybody else have >> >> an opinion here? Frans/Joey? >> > >> >Just a crcy idea: Could the plain i386 kernel be droped instead? That >> >would loose support for i486 and i586 cpus on the m-a CD. But is that >> >needed there? >> >> That's an option, yes. We could strip out the kernels for < 686 >> systems here, but I'd like to keep them on if at all possible to make >> this image as universally useful as possible. I'd be more convinced to >> simply drop powerpc instead, like we already did for the multi-arch >> DVD. > >Sounds reasonable to me, but then I'm not a powerpc user... > >Does the CD image need powerpc, powerpc-smp and powerpc64 kernels? >Perhaps one of powerpc and powerpc-smp could be dropped (presuming that >the smp variant still works on a UP system dropping the UP could well be >reasonable). No idea, to be honest. Powerpc folks - thoughts? >Do you have any idea where perl (not perl-base) comes from? python (not >python-minimal) doesn't seem to be in the base system but is on the CD >as well. Similarly nothing seems to pull in binutils or doc-linux-text >deliberately. (I'm picking on these packages because they are the >largest components under pool/main/*) Hmmm. At the very least, debconf needs perl-base. linux-base then pulls in the main perl package later (via libapt-pkg-perl). As for python, I'm not seeing that on the current m-a netinst CD. We then have linux-headers-$foo -> gcc-4.3 -> binutils. I don't see doc-linux-text in the log either. (Looking at the log files make_disc_tree.log and sort_deps.i386.log for this info...) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "Further comment on how I feel about IBM will appear once I've worked out whether they're being malicious or incompetent. Capital letters are forecast." Matthew Garrett, http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/30675.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100708000935.gg4...@einval.com
Re: PowerPC daily install CDs? [Was: Re: Netinst for testing?]
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:53:30PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: >> >> Is it possible that PowerPC CD builds have been down for over three >> weeks and nobody noticed? >> >> !?!?!?! >> >> Rick > > Any idea when this will be fixed? Just wondering... Sorry, I'm away on vacation until next weekend so there's not much I can do about this right now. I've just about got enough net access to do mail from time to time... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." -- Daniel Pead -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: powerpc DVDs
>Hi, can anyone tell me why the server md5sum and jigdo folders show 5 >powerpc dvds but there is only one available? We only ship all the ISOs for i386, amd64 and source. In order to save mirror space and bandwidth, we just have the jigdo files available for many of the other architectures. If you need them, the remaining DVD images can be generated using jigdo. See http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ for more information about that. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "C++ ate my sanity" -- Jon Rabone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: PowePC sid_d-i daily builds are not happening...
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 02:01:24PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On May 24, 2009, at 2:39 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: > >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ >> >> says that "This build finished at Mon May 18 22:27:07 UTC 2009." >> >> That's almost a week ago. I'd like to test a new sid installation on >> one of my Macs but until this is fixed, I can't. Any idea when it will >> be working again? > > This has not changed in the last week. It still says May 18th, 2009. > > What is wrong and what can we do to fix it? Sorry, no idea what was wrong but just as I went to look at the logs of the last build the latest one just succeeded. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com We don't need no education. We don't need no thought control. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
DPL teams review 2008
k all of your tasks in order of importance? f. Finally, are you having fun working on Debian? Why/why not? 2. Teams you're in -- (please answer this section multiple times where appropriate, once per team, but *excluding* teams for maintenance of individual packages) a. What teams do you work on? Are you an "official" member of those teams? b. How well do you think those teams are performing, in terms of getting things done? How are daily/regular tasks dealt with? And how about less common, one-off things? c. How do members of your teams communicate with each other about what they're working on? And how do they (as individuals or as a team) communicate with people outside of the team? Do you feel they coordinate well? d. Are there enough resources for your teams to do their jobs well? If not, what's missing? e. Anything else you'd like to mention? 3. Other teams -- a. What contact, if any, do you (as an individual) have with other teams? How well does that contact work? b. How well do your team(s) interact with other teams? c. If you have any issues in (a) or (b), how would you suggest to fix them? d. Any other observations about the various teams in Debian? === Other stuff === That's the list of things I'm hoping to learn more about from this review of teams. Of course, I'm sure there are many other things in Debian that you'd like to ask or tell me about. By all means, talk to me about them - I see it as part of my job to listen and do what I can to help. But please keep those separate from this survey - it'll help me to avoid my head exploding in all directions... :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Debian Project Leader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Simplified booting of Debian install CD on IBM PowerPC servers - Suggestion
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 01:11:33PM -0500, Rolf Brudeseth wrote: > >The Debian PowerPC install CD (3.1r5) currently only allows booting via >Open Firmware on IBM servers. That is typically a very painful method for >those that are not well-versed in Open Firmware. I have added the fixes >below that will allow the CD to be booted directly from the SMS menus or by >pressing the 5 (tty) or F5 (video) keys when the IBM banner is shown. > >I successfully booted a modified 'netinst' CD using those two methods on >the following IBM Power5 server: 9110-51A > >Now, the kernel would not boot and the system went to Open Firmware. But >that issue is unrelated and something I will address next. It could be as >simple as me selecting the wrong image. Hi Rolf, Thanks for looking into this. 3.1r5 (aka Sarge r5) is the last stable release of Debian, using installation code and setup from 2005. We're probably not going to make any more changes to it at this point, as we're very close to releasing our new stable version (4.0 aka Etch). That should hopefully be more useful for you. Checking, your change to yaboot.conf is already merged in in the latest Etch test images, and we have a /ppc/bootinfo.txt file with similar information to yours and an icon. Could you try (for example) the image at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_rc2/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-testing-powerpc-netinst.iso and see how that works for you please? We'd love some good feedback at this point. :-) Thanks, -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "We're the technical experts. We were hired so that management could ignore our recommendations and tell us how to do our jobs." -- Mike Andrews signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: NMU for contrib package
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Re: Weekly snapshot of powerpc CDs shows much breakage
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 08:32:05PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: >On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:46:53PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> Looks like the cdimage server just ran out of disk temporarily during >> the ISO build, leaving some short/zero-length ISO files. I'm >> re-running them now, and they should hopefully all be in place >> soon. Thanks for pointing out the problem! > >He, the disk i sponsored last year is not enough for this ? I guess the box >eats huge amount of disk space with all those .isos around. *grin* No, that disk is in the build box with jvw. The shortage is now in the distribution machine in .se. The shortage should be temporary - maswan is in the middle of some hardware re-organisation at the moment which will make life easier... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Since phone messaging became popular, the young generation has lost the ability to read or write anything that is longer than one hundred and sixty characters." -- Ignatios Souvatzis signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Weekly snapshot of powerpc CDs shows much breakage
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 12:37:19PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:28:58AM -0500, Don Wright wrote: >>http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/powerpc/iso-cd/ >>http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ >> >>A lot of zero length CD .iso files in the weekly snapshot this time. The >>DVDs look better. The .jigdo templates also seem to build reasonable >>CDs, but the .torrents reflect the abnormally short .iso lengths. >> >>Would someone who knows where to kick the build process please do so? > >Oops; I'll take a look. Looks like the cdimage server just ran out of disk temporarily during the ISO build, leaving some short/zero-length ISO files. I'm re-running them now, and they should hopefully all be in place soon. Thanks for pointing out the problem! -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Because heaters aren't purple!" -- Catherine Pitt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Weekly snapshot of powerpc CDs shows much breakage
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:28:58AM -0500, Don Wright wrote: >http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/powerpc/iso-cd/ >http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ > >A lot of zero length CD .iso files in the weekly snapshot this time. The >DVDs look better. The .jigdo templates also seem to build reasonable >CDs, but the .torrents reflect the abnormally short .iso lengths. > >Would someone who knows where to kick the build process please do so? Oops; I'll take a look. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mature Sporty Personal More Innovation More Adult A Man in Dandism Powered Midship Specialty signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: powerpc d-i daily ISOs are one week out of date.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >The files in >http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/ >powerpc/iso-cd/ >date from September 4th. > >Just incase nobody's noticed... Thanks for pointing this out; it looks as though there has been a change in the daily ppc images which the CD build process doesn't like. In fact, looking further - there are d-i build failures on ppc which are causing the problem. Wouter/Frans, can you take a look please? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Armed with "Valor": "Centurion" represents quality of Discipline, Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Security updates
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 09:06:38AM -0700, Paul J. Lucas wrote: > Anybody know why this file isn't there? > > - Paul > >-- Forwarded message -- >Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 06:25:07 -0700 >From: Cron Daemon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || run-parts >--report >/etc/cron.daily > >/etc/cron.daily/apt-update: >Failed to fetch >http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/main/binary-powerpc/Packages.gz > 404 Not Found >E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones >used instead. >run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/apt-update exited with return code 100 You're now pointing at testing security. The new testing, aka "etch" does not exist yet. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Further comment on how I feel about IBM will appear once I've worked out whether they're being malicious or incompetent. Capital letters are forecast." Matthew Garrett, http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/30675.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Seeking a powerpc debian-admin
On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 03:07:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: >I'm looking for an admin of bruckner.d.o (or any other host with a sid >chroot). I'd like to do a test build of gcc-4.0.1 in the unstable >chroot on bruckner, but the build-deps need installing: > > autogen > gnat-3.3 | gnat-4.0 | gnat-3.4 > libmpfr-dev > libcairo1-dev (>= 0.3.0) > realpath (>= 1.9.12) > chrpath > lsb-release > graphviz (>= 2.2) > >I got no response from debian-admin, so I'm trying here instead. I can give you an account on my ppc if it'll help - mail me an ssh key for access... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "C++ ate my sanity" -- Jon Rabone signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: debian-update-3.0r4-powerpc
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 06:20:20PM -0400, Darrel wrote: >I am not sure of what is about to happen, but am going with this web page: >http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/powerpc/ch-partitioning.en.html#s-partition-intro > >Do I install the two update disks with the seven disks called >debian-30r4-powerpc-binary or does that version already have the updates? The 30r4 update CDs contain the changed packages from 30r0 (initial woody release) to 30r4, so that people with existing CD sets can use those without having to replace all their CDs. If you have 30r4 already, you don't need the 30r4 update. However, you should be aware - 30r5 was released last weekend, along with new CDs... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "This dress doesn't reverse." -- Alden Spiess signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Want another buildd?
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 05:00:29PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: >On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 03:05:00PM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> with one removed for now. Nobody has yet done the kernel work to >> enable the second processor on these machines under Linux and it has >> stability issues under heavy I/O load with both plugged in. That's >> something I'm hoping to work on soon. > >Oh, well. Good luck with it, and you just volunteered for prep d-i work, which >should be ok if the kernel is. I guess we need some kind of prep-installer >which moves the kernel to the prep partition so that the machine can boot >though. Yup. I'll get into it soon, but I'm hoping to get the second CPU up first. >Is it a real prep one or a ppcbug one ? It's a real prep machine - an RS/6000 from 1997! >> The 43p-240 needs a special kernel for initial installation; I used >> the patched 2.4.19 from Leigh Brown's site at >> http://www.solinno.co.uk/7043-140/ and a woody install, followed by a >> sarge upgrade. > >Could you try booting both 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 debian powerpc kernels on it, and >maybe provide config files, patches, whatever as bugreports so that the debian >kernels support it ? There were some prep support patches going into 2.6.8 >recently. No problem. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mature Sporty Personal More Innovation More Adult A Man in Dandism Powered Midship Specialty signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Want another buildd?
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 04:00:58PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: >On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 01:29:08PM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Hi guys, >> >> I've acquired a powerpc machine (an IBM RS/6000, 43p/240). It's > >What model is it ? is it already a chrp box ? What processor does it have ? Unfortunately, no. It's a PReP machine with a pair of: cpu : 604r clock : 233MHz revision: 18.3 (pvr 0009 1203) bogomips: 465.30 machine : PReP IBM 7043-240 (Doral) upgrade cpu : not present scsi fuse : ok simms : 0:32MiB 1:32MiB l2 cache: not present with one removed for now. Nobody has yet done the kernel work to enable the second processor on these machines under Linux and it has stability issues under heavy I/O load with both plugged in. That's something I'm hoping to work on soon. >Could you test the yaboot version from : > > http://people.debian.org/~luther/yaboot/yaboot_1.3.13-2.amiga.1_powerpc.deb I would if yaboot worked on PReP. >> installed and not doing much at the moment. Would another buildd be >> useful? I have a full local mirror on the same LAN, and I've already >> got sbuild and friends up and running... > >Also, did you use debain-installer to install it, and if so, did you write an >installation report. The 43p-240 needs a special kernel for initial installation; I used the patched 2.4.19 from Leigh Brown's site at http://www.solinno.co.uk/7043-140/ and a woody install, followed by a sarge upgrade. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] We don't need no education. We don't need no thought control. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Want another buildd?
Hi guys, I've acquired a powerpc machine (an IBM RS/6000, 43p/240). It's installed and not doing much at the moment. Would another buildd be useful? I have a full local mirror on the same LAN, and I've already got sbuild and friends up and running... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] There's no sensation to compare with this Suspended animation, A state of bliss signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Woody DVD problem on powerpc
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 11:11:07AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >Maybe the answer is to fiddle with the HFS bits so we only have the >boot / install stuff visible in the HFS volume descriptor and leave >the rest of the files on the disc only visible through >ISO9660/RockRidge. That way the install kernel and a running system >will be able to see the packages on the disc just fine, but the host >Mac system won't. I'm playing with that now to see if it will create >an image, at least. In fact, the latest mkisofs alpha (in cdrtools 1.11a31) seems to do the right thing. The problem was nothing to do with the number of files in the image (only about 9000, after all), but rather a large file issue by the looks of it. I've just created an image which I'll be asking somebody to test for me now. -- Steve McIntyre, Plasmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh My God! They Killed init! You Bastards! "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."
Re: Woody DVD problem on powerpc
On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 10:13:07AM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: >On Thu, Aug 08, 2002 at 06:34:45PM -0700, Brad Boyer wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 01:44:55AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> > This seems to be a brick wall. Is HFS really this crap? >> >> Yup. The problem is that an HFS filesystem refers to allocation >> blocks with an unsigned 16 bit integer, so while the specification >> technically allows 2^32 different files, only 2^16 can actually >> be taking up any space, and there are a few system files taking >> up some of that, so in practical terms, it's a little smaller. > >I suppose HFS+ fixes this kind of problems, is it not ? Pass. I know (almost) nothing about HFS and HFS+. I believe that we need the disc to be an HFS/ISO9660 hybrid for powermacs to boot it. Yes? >maybe using one of the userspace hfs tools you can create a HFS+ iso >image ? > >But then are you not supposed to use ufs for DVDs ? UDF, not UFS. But I don't think we have tools that will do that properly yet. Maybe the answer is to fiddle with the HFS bits so we only have the boot / install stuff visible in the HFS volume descriptor and leave the rest of the files on the disc only visible through ISO9660/RockRidge. That way the install kernel and a running system will be able to see the packages on the disc just fine, but the host Mac system won't. I'm playing with that now to see if it will create an image, at least. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.einval.com/steve/>My home page "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."
Woody DVD problem on powerpc
I've just tried to create a DVD image of woody for powerpc and it failed at the mkisofs stage because of too many files on the disc: ... Using LIBXA000 for CD1/pool/contrib/libx/libxalan2-java (libxalan-java) Using LIBXA000.DEB;1 for CD1/pool/contrib/libx/libxalan-java/libxalan-java-doc_1.2.2-2_all.deb (libxalan-java_1.2.2-2_all.deb) Using LIBXA000.DEB;1 for CD1/pool/contrib/libx/libxalan2-java/libxalan2-java_2.0.1-1_all.deb (libxalan2-java-doc_2.0.1-1_all.deb) too many files for HFS volume mkhybrid: no error mkhybrid: No such file or directory make: *** [bin-images] Error 1 ... Looking through the mkisofs code, I've found the code that reports the failure, and the cause is here in write.c: /* * crude attempt to prevent overflows - HFS can only cope with a * maximum of about 65536 forks (actually less) - this will trap cases * when we have far too many files */ if (count >= 65536) return (-1); else return (size); This seems to be a brick wall. Is HFS really this crap? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] Support the Campaign for Audiovisual Free Expression: http://www.eff.org/cafe/
Please build xpostitplus for me
I should have looked at this a long time ago: xpostitplus is being kept out of testing because it hasn't been built for powerpc. I've just tried to build it myself on voltaire, but it's missing libxaw7-dev so I can't satisfy the Build-Depends. Can I ask one of you nice powerpc people to build it for me? Pretty please? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rpg-soc.ucam.org/curs/>CURS home page "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppc version
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 08:12:55AM +0100, Klaus Prasse wrote: >I've downloaded CD-images for the Debian PowerPC version. After that I >tried to install debian on a RS6000 system, but the system didn't boot >from my CDs. Are the CD images 'Debian PowerPC' not bootable? I didn't >succeed in finding >any information which could help me with my problem. > >Please be so kind to tell me how I can solve this problem. I'm not sure if the CDs are able to boot on RS6000 hardware. Maybe somebody on the powerpc list can help with that...? -- Steve McIntyre, Plasmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~stevem/>My home page "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..."
Re: linux on mac
On Mon, 8 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >i am a mac user trying to acheive a linux operating system on a g3 >powerbook. i was wondering if you had any software on cd's for this? Maybe. I'm not too sure where the Linux powerpc support for G3 is up to right now. Maybe the people on the powerpc mailing list can help...? -- Steve McIntyre, Allstor Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer
