Re: Boot Mac 5500/225 in Linux

2006-03-26 Thread brian morris
this mac is old enough that it could be booted
from one of the old DiskTools floppies from
Apple, say 8.0 -- i believe these are free
for download. although my computers complain,
they will run off these. 

(actually this one might boot
the entire free version of macos7 

i wonder this is like the first pci mac...)

thus giving a toehold for bootx to boot off 
debian install cd.

problem for him to make alone with only windoz
around??



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 On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:00:41AM +0100, Hans
 Ekbrand wrote:
  On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 04:16:43PM -0600,
 kendall14 wrote:
  
   I don't know much about linux or mac but I want
 to install a linux
   operating system to a old mac. The system is a
 mac 5500/225 with a 2GB
   HDD and all downloading will be done on a
 windows xp computer. The mac
   does not boot, it will just put a floppy on the
 screen. I have a CD
   burner and no floppy drive but once in a while I
 can use one on a
   computer that has a cd-rom drive and a floppy
 drive with windows xp. I
   need to to use minimum floppies and if at all
 possible none (doubt) or
   one floppy. So my question is , what operating
 system should I use for
   it and how can do the install?
  
  Oldworld macs (and I believe 5500 is oldworld)
 cannot be booted from
  the debian-installer CD. So if there is no MacOS
 present on the HD,
  you have to
  
  A) Install MacOS from CD (that CD can obviously
 boot the machine)
  B) Install Debian from floppies.
 
 To clarify, do A or B.
 
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Re: Boot Mac 5500/225 in Linux

2006-03-22 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:00:41AM +0100, Hans Ekbrand wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 04:16:43PM -0600, kendall14 wrote:
 
  I don't know much about linux or mac but I want to install a linux
  operating system to a old mac. The system is a mac 5500/225 with a 2GB
  HDD and all downloading will be done on a windows xp computer. The mac
  does not boot, it will just put a floppy on the screen. I have a CD
  burner and no floppy drive but once in a while I can use one on a
  computer that has a cd-rom drive and a floppy drive with windows xp. I
  need to to use minimum floppies and if at all possible none (doubt) or
  one floppy. So my question is , what operating system should I use for
  it and how can do the install?
 
 Oldworld macs (and I believe 5500 is oldworld) cannot be booted from
 the debian-installer CD. So if there is no MacOS present on the HD,
 you have to
 
 A) Install MacOS from CD (that CD can obviously boot the machine)
 B) Install Debian from floppies.

To clarify, do A or B.

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Re: Boot Mac 5500/225 in Linux

2006-03-21 Thread Daniel Gimpelevich
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:16:43 -0600, kendall14 wrote:

 I don't know much about linux or mac but I want to install a linux
 operating system to a old mac. The system is a mac 5500/225 with a 2GB
 HDD and all downloading will be done on a windows xp computer. The mac
 does not boot, it will just put a floppy on the screen. I have a CD
 burner and no floppy drive but once in a while I can use one on a
 computer that has a cd-rom drive and a floppy drive with windows xp. I
 need to to use minimum floppies and if at all possible none (doubt) or
 one floppy. So my question is , what operating system should I use for
 it and how can do the install?

Please excuse my not CCing you; I hope you read the list. Linux of any
kind would of course be a great operating system for you to install on it.
I have more or less streamlined a process by which one may install Linux
on an old Mac such as yours in exactly the conditions you describe, but it
is a rather involved process, and walking someone through it step-by-step
over e-mail would be an exercise in futility. Several floppies are usually
involved, and an internet connection over the Ethernet on that Mac is a
must. Also, the 5500 models bring certain hardware peculiarities to the
equation that could cause less-than-optimal operation unless taken care of
first, preferably directly by someone who has dealt with the hardware of
these models before. In particular, certain intermittent and
hard-to-correct problems can be caused by the motherboard not being seated
in the case just exactly right.


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Re: Boot Mac 5500/225 in Linux

2006-03-21 Thread Hans Ekbrand
On Sun, Mar 19, 2006 at 04:16:43PM -0600, kendall14 wrote:

 I don't know much about linux or mac but I want to install a linux
 operating system to a old mac. The system is a mac 5500/225 with a 2GB
 HDD and all downloading will be done on a windows xp computer. The mac
 does not boot, it will just put a floppy on the screen. I have a CD
 burner and no floppy drive but once in a while I can use one on a
 computer that has a cd-rom drive and a floppy drive with windows xp. I
 need to to use minimum floppies and if at all possible none (doubt) or
 one floppy. So my question is , what operating system should I use for
 it and how can do the install?

Oldworld macs (and I believe 5500 is oldworld) cannot be booted from
the debian-installer CD. So if there is no MacOS present on the HD,
you have to

A) Install MacOS from CD (that CD can obviously boot the machine)
B) Install Debian from floppies.

If you have MacOS installed, you can boot the debian-installer with
bootX. In that case you will not need any floppies at all. If you have
a working fast internet connection in MacOS, you don't even need a
debian-installer CD. Just download the needed files within MacOS
(bootX, vmlinux and initrd.gz from the netinst flavour).

If you want to install from floppies you will need at least two
floppies.

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Boot Mac 5500/225 in Linux

2006-03-19 Thread kendall14



I don't know much about linux or mac but I want to install a linux operating system to a old mac. The system is a mac 5500/225 with a 2GB HDD and all downloading will be done on a windows xp computer. The mac does not boot, it will just put a floppy on the screen. I have a CD burner and no floppy drive but once in a while I can use one on a computer that has a cd-rom drive and a floppy drive with windows xp. I need to to use minimum floppies and if at all possible none (doubt) or one floppy. So my question is , what operating system should I use for it and how can do the install?