Re: Booting/ installing Debian on a G3 with Open Firmware 2.4
Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: I'm sorry, but you are both wrong. Such machines are neither netbootable nor CD-bootable, except for specially mastered non-free CDs which Debian does not provide. I read something about plain iso with no joliet... perhaps I'll try this. You MUST use a floppy, unless you pull the HD and image it on another machine. I don't think so. The floppy drive doesn't even try to access the media inserted, the only thing I can do is eject. But that's no surprise, since the documentation from the NetBSD-Project, I linked in the first post, says that this version of OpenFirmware doesn't know how to deal with a floppy drive. OK, I'll try to bot this machine via ethernet, like I did for NetBSD. Regards, M.Fuckner -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting/ installing Debian on a G3 with Open Firmware 2.4
I have a couple of old beige G3's. They will boot from an appropriately setup miboot floppy, which is not part of the normal debian distribution, due to freeness problems with miboot (which may have been fixed recently?). Such miboot floppies are available but I don't have a suitable URL. Sven used to provide them, but I think somebody else has taken that job over recently. The way I usually boot a beige G3 into debian Linux is with MacOS-9 (though I'm told MacOS-8.5 works just as well and takes up less disk space if you are tight on that commodity) and the BootX extension. That works pretty reliably. Rick On Jun 26, 2006, at 3:32 AM, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:41:36 -0700, Jason Self wrote: On 6/24/06, Michael Fuckner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Machine seems to be only netbootable The beige G3 is also able to boot from CD. Insert CD and hold down C on the keyboard while the machine powers up, searches for startup devices, finds the CD and then begins to boot it. You can then release the C key. If you have a working CD drive, that might be simpler? Check out http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ I'm sorry, but you are both wrong. Such machines are neither netbootable nor CD-bootable, except for specially mastered non-free CDs which Debian does not provide. You MUST use a floppy, unless you pull the HD and image it on another machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting/ installing Debian on a G3 with Open Firmware 2.4
Jason Self wrote: On 6/24/06, Michael Fuckner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Machine seems to be only netbootable The beige G3 is also able to boot from CD. Insert CD and hold down C on the keyboard while the machine powers up, searches for startup devices, finds the CD and then begins to boot it. You can then release the C key. If you have a working CD drive, that might be simpler? the drive is working, I can use it after booting NetBSD. Check out http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ hm, when trying to boot from CD, I just get a screen with a floppy drive with a question mark- and nothing eles happens. Is this good or bad? Regards, M.Fuckner! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting/ installing Debian on a G3 with Open Firmware 2.4
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:41:36 -0700, Jason Self wrote: On 6/24/06, Michael Fuckner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Machine seems to be only netbootable The beige G3 is also able to boot from CD. Insert CD and hold down C on the keyboard while the machine powers up, searches for startup devices, finds the CD and then begins to boot it. You can then release the C key. If you have a working CD drive, that might be simpler? Check out http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ I'm sorry, but you are both wrong. Such machines are neither netbootable nor CD-bootable, except for specially mastered non-free CDs which Debian does not provide. You MUST use a floppy, unless you pull the HD and image it on another machine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting/ installing Debian on a G3 with Open Firmware 2.4
On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 12:32:56AM -0700, Daniel Gimpelevich wrote: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 15:41:36 -0700, Jason Self wrote: The beige G3 is also able to boot from CD. Insert CD and hold down C on the keyboard while the machine powers up, searches for startup devices, finds the CD and then begins to boot it. You can then release the C key. If you have a working CD drive, that might be simpler? Check out http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ I'm sorry, but you are both wrong. Such machines are neither netbootable nor CD-bootable, except for specially mastered non-free CDs which Debian does not provide. You MUST use a floppy, unless you pull the HD and image it on another machine. Technically, the machine supports booting from network or CD, but Debian does not support doing either on oldworld hardware. It is possible with a little effort to package up the installer into an XCOFF image and netboot it, but I don't remember the details. If you like, take a look at the hack-coff program in the arch/powerpc/boot directory in the kernel tree and the Makefile in that same directory for how to package up a kernel and initrd into a format the machine might accept. The CD part is a tougher question, and has been discussed before. Brad Boyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Booting/ installing Debian on a G3 with Open Firmware 2.4
Hi! I got a G3 machine and I'd like to install Debian. Currently it is running NetBSD, so I know it is possible to run anything other than MacOS. The Machine seems to be only netbootable and so I tried it, but the yaboot-file seems to be in ELF Format, but I think I need XCOFF. Where do I get such a file- I read that conversion is said to be impossible. Regards, M.Fuckner! PS: I'm talking about this model: http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html#g3v2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting/ installing Debian on a G3 with Open Firmware 2.4
On 6/24/06, Michael Fuckner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Machine seems to be only netbootable The beige G3 is also able to boot from CD. Insert CD and hold down C on the keyboard while the machine powers up, searches for startup devices, finds the CD and then begins to boot it. You can then release the C key. If you have a working CD drive, that might be simpler? Check out http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
