Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi,

On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote:


HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. 


I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the 
fastest 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux 
(TenFourFox) and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still 
playback youtube with flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As 
I was able on the PowerMac when flash PPC still existed.
HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 
4-5x CPU power.


Riccardo

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Richard Kuenz]

Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola 
<riccardo.mott...@libero.it>:

> Hi,
> 
> On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote:
>> 
>> HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. 
> 
> I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest 
> 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux (TenFourFox) 
> and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still playback youtube with 
> flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As I was able on the PowerMac 
> when flash PPC still existed.
> HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 4-5x CPU 
> power.
> 
> Riccardo
> 


Hello Riccardo,

on Powermac G4 you should install Osx Leopard. Then you can use Safari 
Extensions.

Just install Quicktime 7.7.1  and use ClicktoPlugin Safari extension. Go to the 
settings . Click playback with "Quicktime" instead of "HTML5" and the wonder 
starts. Unfortunately it does not work with tiger.
It is better to use Webkit for Leopard than Safari, actually.

Other solution, if you want to rely on TenFourFox, then install "QTE"  - 
Quicktime Enabler for TenFourFox, it is an add-on that let's you open via 
RightClick YouTube and other Files through Quicktime. It is not so fast than 
ClickToPlugin and not so charming, but hey, it works, and TenFourFox should be 
quite secure.

With these you should be able to watch videos propably even better than under 
Linux on your Powerbook G4 or Powermac G4


Other very great solution is "YouView" by MrGeckoMedia. Here you probably need 
also Perian installed. If you use OsX Leopard you could also install the Safari 
Extension for it to use instead of. Thats a cool program!


Hope this helps - Another reason to still love your Powerbook G4!


Rich

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Richard Kuenz]

This here is for Facebook


https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/23619-flash-version-16-for-powerpc/






Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:33 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz <csae2...@uibk.ac.at>:

> 
> Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola 
> <riccardo.mott...@libero.it>:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote:
>>> 
>>> HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. 
>> 
>> I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest 
>> 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux (TenFourFox) 
>> and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still playback youtube 
>> with flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As I was able on the 
>> PowerMac when flash PPC still existed.
>> HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 4-5x 
>> CPU power.
>> 
>> Riccardo
>> 
> 
> 
> Hello Riccardo,
> 
> on Powermac G4 you should install Osx Leopard. Then you can use Safari 
> Extensions.
> 
> Just install Quicktime 7.7.1  and use ClicktoPlugin Safari extension. Go to 
> the settings . Click playback with "Quicktime" instead of "HTML5" and the 
> wonder starts. Unfortunately it does not work with tiger.
> It is better to use Webkit for Leopard than Safari, actually.
> 
> Other solution, if you want to rely on TenFourFox, then install "QTE"  - 
> Quicktime Enabler for TenFourFox, it is an add-on that let's you open via 
> RightClick YouTube and other Files through Quicktime. It is not so fast than 
> ClickToPlugin and not so charming, but hey, it works, and TenFourFox should 
> be quite secure.
> 
> With these you should be able to watch videos propably even better than under 
> Linux on your Powerbook G4 or Powermac G4
> 
> 
> Other very great solution is "YouView" by MrGeckoMedia. Here you probably 
> need also Perian installed. If you use OsX Leopard you could also install the 
> Safari Extension for it to use instead of. Thats a cool program!
> 
> 
> Hope this helps - Another reason to still love your Powerbook G4!
> 
> 
> Rich
> 

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Richard Kuenz]

Very necessary on Powerbook G4 - FanControl!

http://jurriaandevos.nl/control-ibook-g4-temperature-with-g4fancontrol/




Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:34 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz <csae2...@uibk.ac.at>:

> This here is for Facebook
> 
> 
> https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/23619-flash-version-16-for-powerpc/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:33 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz <csae2...@uibk.ac.at>:
> 
>> 
>> Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola 
>> <riccardo.mott...@libero.it>:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. 
>>> 
>>> I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest 
>>> 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux 
>>> (TenFourFox) and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still 
>>> playback youtube with flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As I 
>>> was able on the PowerMac when flash PPC still existed.
>>> HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 4-5x 
>>> CPU power.
>>> 
>>> Riccardo
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello Riccardo,
>> 
>> on Powermac G4 you should install Osx Leopard. Then you can use Safari 
>> Extensions.
>> 
>> Just install Quicktime 7.7.1  and use ClicktoPlugin Safari extension. Go to 
>> the settings . Click playback with "Quicktime" instead of "HTML5" and the 
>> wonder starts. Unfortunately it does not work with tiger.
>> It is better to use Webkit for Leopard than Safari, actually.
>> 
>> Other solution, if you want to rely on TenFourFox, then install "QTE"  - 
>> Quicktime Enabler for TenFourFox, it is an add-on that let's you open via 
>> RightClick YouTube and other Files through Quicktime. It is not so fast than 
>> ClickToPlugin and not so charming, but hey, it works, and TenFourFox should 
>> be quite secure.
>> 
>> With these you should be able to watch videos propably even better than 
>> under Linux on your Powerbook G4 or Powermac G4
>> 
>> 
>> Other very great solution is "YouView" by MrGeckoMedia. Here you probably 
>> need also Perian installed. If you use OsX Leopard you could also install 
>> the Safari Extension for it to use instead of. Thats a cool program!
>> 
>> 
>> Hope this helps - Another reason to still love your Powerbook G4!
>> 
>> 
>> Rich
>> 
> 
> 

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Clive Menzies]

On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote:

Hi Clive,

YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5
player. If it's not doing
that automatically then you can go to the following page to check:

https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB

I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't
have full support
for the required formats.

I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted to create
open source
equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and incomplete even
when they were
under active development.


Many thanks Chris

and for the machine which is great.

Regards

Clive

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Chris Wareham]

Hi Clive,

YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5
player. If it's not doing
that automatically then you can go to the following page to check:

https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB

I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't
have full support
for the required formats.

I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted to create
open source
equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and incomplete even
when they were
under active development.

Cheers,

Chris

> On 12 February 2016 at 01:13 Clive Menzies <cl...@clivemenzies.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Rich
> 
> I'll try these.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Clive
> 
> On 11/02/16 22:43, Richard Kuenz wrote:
> > I don't think there is Flash available, neither Skype.
> >
> > You would have to use another solution, i think.
> >
> > On Youtube, normally i use
> >
> > Iceweasel + Greasemonkey Add-on +ViewTube Script
> >
> > http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en
> >
> >
> > plus, i like very much
> >
> > MPV player + Youtube-Viewer (by Trizen).
> >
> > Starting with Jessie, MPV is available.
> >
> > On Wheezy you would need to compile it yourself
> >
> > https://nyxi.eu/blog/2014/01/19/compiling-mpv-in-Wheezy-2014/
> >
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > rich
> >
> >
> > Am Feb 11, 2016 um 9:23 PM schrieb Clive Menzies 
> > <cl...@clivemenzies.co.uk>:
> >
> >> On 10/02/16 19:33, Peter Saisanas wrote:
> >>
> >>> As an aside, I don't have sound or flash working yet - gnash
> >>> doesn't seem to work and swf-dec is not in stretch. Can anyone
> >>> point me in the right direction 
> >>
> >>
> >>> If you happen to be running the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel I built, it should 
> >>> work out of the box, assuming that no snd-aoa modules happen to be 
> >>> previously blacklisted.
> >>> I recall a quirk with sound and it seemed that the built in speaker 
> >>> is always muted by default the first time snd-aoa driver is used!
> >>> Not sure if anyone else has noticed this?
> >>>
> >>> Either way, in a console run alsamixer and check that the master and 
> >>> pcm output is not muted and increase the levels It should work 
> >>> (i hope)!
> >>>
> >>> If sound still doesn't work, please post your dmesg log when using 
> >>> the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel.
> >> Thanks Peter
> >>
> >> alsa-utils wasn't installed - so installed it and #dpkg-reconfigure 
> >> alsa-base seems to have done the trick
> >>
> >> Just flash left to go...
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Clive
> >>
> >> -- 
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> >> Political Economist
> >> +44 (0) 7836 601378
> >
> 
> 
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>

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Richard Kuenz]

HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy.

you can disable automatic playback of it by going to


in firefox

type


about:config (in statusbar)


then click "OK"


search for "webm" (again in statusbar)


disable automatic playback webm content or so.



id try to use


firefox + greasemonkey + viewtube (by sebaro script) instead.


then u can use mplayer or vlc plugin to playback video - that should 
work better.



there is also a greasemonkey port for seamonkey on sourceforce but i did 
not find it installable.


strangely enough i found last time greasemonkey not installable on 
powerpc g5 machine. i dont know why, though. please someone try this out



thanks


richard

http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en
https://github.com/sebaro/ViewTube






On 2016-02-12 10:25, Clive Menzies wrote:

On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote:

Hi Clive,

YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5
player. If it's not doing
that automatically then you can go to the following page to check:

https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB

I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show
you don't
have full support
for the required formats.

I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted
to create
open source
equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and
incomplete even
when they were
under active development.


Many thanks Chris

and for the machine which is great.

Regards

Clive

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Clive Menzies]

On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote:

Hi Clive,

YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5
player. If it's not doing
that automatically then you can go to the following page to check:

https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB

I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't
have full support
for the required formats.

I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted to create
open source
equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and incomplete even
when they were
under active development.

Cheers,

Chris


Hi Chris

I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but 
couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to 
be loads of them.


clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa:powerpc 0.10.36-2  
powerpc  GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs:powerpc 
0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer plugin for 
GnomeVFS
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:powerpc 
0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer plugins 
from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-libav:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc  libav plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:powerpc 
1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer plugins 
from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:powerpc 
1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer plugins 
from the "good" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-x:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc  GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:powerpc 
0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer libraries 
from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:powerpc 
1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer libraries 
from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer0.10-0:powerpc 0.10.36-1.5
powerpc  Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  libgstreamer1.0-0:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc  Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer 
1:5.0.5~rc1-1  powerpc  GStreamer backend 
for LibreOffice


Thanks

Clive

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Clive Menzies]

On 12/02/16 16:29, Chris Wareham wrote:

On 12 February 2016 at 12:15 Clive Menzies  wrote:

Hi Chris

I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but
couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to
be loads of them.

clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa:powerpc 0.10.36-2
powerpc  GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs:powerpc
0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer plugin for
GnomeVFS
ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:powerpc
0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer plugins
from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-libav:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc  libav plugin for GStreamer
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:powerpc
1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer plugins
from the "base" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:powerpc
1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer plugins
from the "good" set
ii  gstreamer1.0-x:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc  GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:powerpc
0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer libraries
from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:powerpc
1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer libraries
from the "base" set
ii  libgstreamer0.10-0:powerpc 0.10.36-1.5
powerpc  Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  libgstreamer1.0-0:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc  Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer
1:5.0.5~rc1-1  powerpc  GStreamer backend
for LibreOffice

Thanks

Clive


Hi Clive,

Here's what I have on my Jessie machine:

$ dpkg -l "gstreamer*plugins*"|grep "^ii"|awk '{print $2 "\t" $3}'
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386  0.10.23-7.4
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386 0.10.36-2
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386 0.10.31-3+nmu4+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:i386   1.4.4-2.1+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386  1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386  1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:i386  1.4.4-2+b1

Chris

Thanks Chris

I think I'll stick to gecko-mediaplayer for the time being.

Regards

Clive

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Chris Wareham]

On 12 February 2016 at 12:15 Clive Menzies  wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris
> 
> I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but 
> couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to 
> be loads of them.
> 
> clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
> ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa:powerpc 0.10.36-2  
> powerpc  GStreamer plugin for ALSA
> ii  gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs:powerpc 
> 0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer plugin for 
> GnomeVFS
> ii  gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:powerpc 
> 0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer plugins 
> from the "base" set
> ii  gstreamer1.0-libav:powerpc 1.6.3-1
> powerpc  libav plugin for GStreamer
> ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:powerpc 
> 1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer plugins 
> from the "base" set
> ii  gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:powerpc 
> 1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer plugins 
> from the "good" set
> ii  gstreamer1.0-x:powerpc 1.6.3-1
> powerpc  GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
> ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:powerpc 
> 0.10.36-2  powerpc  GStreamer libraries 
> from the "base" set
> ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:powerpc 
> 1.6.3-1powerpc  GStreamer libraries 
> from the "base" set
> ii  libgstreamer0.10-0:powerpc 0.10.36-1.5
> powerpc  Core GStreamer libraries and elements
> ii  libgstreamer1.0-0:powerpc 1.6.3-1
> powerpc  Core GStreamer libraries and elements
> ii  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer 
> 1:5.0.5~rc1-1  powerpc  GStreamer backend 
> for LibreOffice
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Clive
>

Hi Clive,

Here's what I have on my Jessie machine:

$ dpkg -l "gstreamer*plugins*"|grep "^ii"|awk '{print $2 "\t" $3}'
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386  0.10.23-7.4
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386 0.10.36-2
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386 0.10.31-3+nmu4+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:i386   1.4.4-2.1+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386  1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386  1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:i386  1.4.4-2+b1

Chris

Re: Powermac G5 - flash

[Clive Menzies]

Thanks Rich

I'll try these.

Regards

Clive

On 11/02/16 22:43, Richard Kuenz wrote:

I don't think there is Flash available, neither Skype.

You would have to use another solution, i think.

On Youtube, normally i use

Iceweasel + Greasemonkey Add-on +ViewTube Script

http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en


plus, i like very much

MPV player + Youtube-Viewer (by Trizen).

Starting with Jessie, MPV is available.

On Wheezy you would need to compile it yourself

https://nyxi.eu/blog/2014/01/19/compiling-mpv-in-Wheezy-2014/


cheers

rich


Am Feb 11, 2016 um 9:23 PM schrieb Clive Menzies 
<cl...@clivemenzies.co.uk>:



On 10/02/16 19:33, Peter Saisanas wrote:


As an aside, I don't have sound or flash working yet - gnash
doesn't seem to work and swf-dec is not in stretch. Can anyone
point me in the right direction 



If you happen to be running the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel I built, it should 
work out of the box, assuming that no snd-aoa modules happen to be 
previously blacklisted.
I recall a quirk with sound and it seemed that the built in speaker 
is always muted by default the first time snd-aoa driver is used!

Not sure if anyone else has noticed this?

Either way, in a console run alsamixer and check that the master and 
pcm output is not muted and increase the levels It should work 
(i hope)!


If sound still doesn't work, please post your dmesg log when using 
the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel.

Thanks Peter

alsa-utils wasn't installed - so installed it and #dpkg-reconfigure 
alsa-base seems to have done the trick


Just flash left to go...

Regards

Clive

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Re: is there an Adobe Air or Flash package for Debian on PPC G5?

[Rebecca N. Palmer]

Try browser-plugin-gnash or browser-plugin-lightspark.


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is there an Adobe Air or Flash package for Debian on PPC G5?

[Levin, Michael]

I just installed, from a CD, Debian onto an Apple Mac Pro PPC G5:
Linux G5Debian 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 ppc64

I want to be able to run the Scratch package (visual programming 
language for kids), but v2 requires Adobe Air to run standalone, or Flash to 
run in a browser. I tried to install flash but it says

Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another 
package.

anyone know how to get this to work on a PPC G5?

Mike Levin



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Re: is there an Adobe Air or Flash package for Debian on PPC G5?

[Herminio Hernandez Jr.]

I am sorry but flash is dead in PowerPC. Adobe no longer supports it. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 25, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Levin, Michael michael.le...@tufts.edu wrote:
 
 I just installed, from a CD, Debian onto an Apple Mac Pro PPC G5:
 Linux G5Debian 3.2.0-4-powerpc64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 ppc64
 
I want to be able to run the Scratch package (visual programming language 
 for kids), but v2 requires Adobe Air to run standalone, or Flash to run in a 
 browser. I tried to install flash but it says
 
 Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another 
 package.
 
anyone know how to get this to work on a PPC G5?
 
 Mike Levin
 
 
 
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Re: Viewing Flash content in Squeeze on PowerPC, and G+

[Philipp Kern]

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:57:23PM -0900, Terrence van Ettinger wrote:
   I have an old iMac G4 running Squeeze that I'd like to be able to
 view web pages on that use flash content. Can this be done at all
 reliably?

You can try gnash and lightspark. If it's just about viewing YouTube
videos you can go to http://www.youtube.com/html5 and activate
non-Flash rendering. As for proprietary Flash you're out of luck.

   Also, is there any way to use G+ Hangouts with the same computer?

Sadly that's entirely proprietary, even though they're also pushing an
open technology (WebRTC), which is as of yet not compatible with their
offering, though.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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[Terrence van Ettinger]

Hello all,
	I have an old iMac G4 running Squeeze that I'd like to be able to 
view web pages on that use flash content. Can this be done at all 
reliably?

Also, is there any way to use G+ Hangouts with the same computer?

Thanks,
Terrence

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Re: Viewing Flash content in Squeeze on PowerPC, and G+

[Robert Chamberlain]

Hello Terrence,

Probably best to forget about Flash as the only option is some old and
dodgy form of gnash, which on my iBook G4 just slows everything down and
barely works. I deleted it from my computer and now I have a very smooth
working Iceweasel 10.0.11 ESR. 

Flash would be nice to have, but I've learnt to live without it. At
least I now have a relatively modern browser, compared to all the old
and unsupported browsers for Mac Tiger.

Best regards,

Robert.

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012, at 22:57, Terrence van Ettinger wrote:
 Hello all,
   I have an old iMac G4 running Squeeze that I'd like to be able to 
 view web pages on that use flash content. Can this be done at all 
 reliably?
   Also, is there any way to use G+ Hangouts with the same computer?
 
 Thanks,
 Terrence
 
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Re: view flash website

[the grv]

Hi and sorry for my bad english.

You're right! Anyway, i'm a graphic designer. For my job I need a rule, a 
pencil, a sheet of paper, and unfortunely the Adobe tools. :) i MUST to view 
flash website because -as you known- Adobe fix some standards for the web 
market.

And, for your consideration, every three days i want to visit You tube, Vimeo 
website, myspace, and so on web services that use a flash tecnology. Many 
people use this services, every day.
All stupids?

Now, I appreciate debian and the power of open source. I use Blender into my 
debian-box and it is 2x much faster than macosX into my powerbook. i's 
beautiful.

Anyway, you right. I need to shutdown my debian, when i MUST to visit flash 
websites.

Repeat: i must. I hope that the future is better. 

Thank you.

GRV





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 From: Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca
 Subject: Re: view flash website
 To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 Date: Wednesday, 2 September, 2009, 9:34 PM
  Now, i must to view flash
 websites. Gnash (please forgive) is horrible.
  You have a suggestion?
 
 Help the Gnash developers make it better?
 Lobby Adobe to Free their Flash player?
 Lobby the relevant webmasters so they use something else
 than Flash?
 View other sites (it's not like there's a shortage, is
 there?)?
 
 
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Using flash/video on non-mainstream arches and youtube-dl (was: Re: view flash website)

[Rogério Brito]

Hi.

I'm including -mentors on this reply, since some may be interested in
the newer packages that I offer. Please, keep the CC'ies.

On Sep 03 2009, the grv wrote:
 And, for your consideration, every three days i want to visit You
 tube, Vimeo website, myspace, and so on web services that use a
 flash tecnology. Many people use this services, every day.

Are you using Flash for the video player part? If so, then you might
want to check some alternatives.

  (Here begins the part that may be of interest to -mentors)

For instance, youtube-dl (present in the unstable part of our
repository) is a handy tool to download the files and it is frequently
updated.

I have newer version of youtube-dl at http://rb.doesntexist.org/debian/
that may be more interesting for anybody using it (it is signed with my
cryptographic key), and you can get the sources at:

dget http://rb.doesntexist.org/debian/youtube-dl_2009.08.08-1~try01.dsc

I frequently use it with aria2c, so that I can download the videos
faster (and, actually, it is a good thing to follow, say, some courses
from universities).

   (Here ends the part of interest to debian-mentors).

If you just trust me (you shouldn't, since you don't know me), you can
get a ready-made package from:

http://rb.doesntexist.org/debian/youtube-dl_2009.08.08-1~try01_all.deb

After you get the videos, you can play them with vlc, mplayer, xine,
totem, whatever.

The package clive is another alternative to grab videos from all over
the place. You may want to check the mozilla/firefox plugin for mplayer
so that you can play your videos in place.

All this is available for powerpc too (I use it, and I'm interested in
the platform, as I have some very old powerpc boxes that are still going
strong).

If you are not using a flash player for videos, then using swfdec or
gnash may be an alternative (I'm not sure, since I don't use those).

The lack of flash for those alternative views is actually a plus, since
my computer doesn't get slower when I visit one site or another that
happens to have 100 ads all flying in just one page of my browser and
taking over my CPU from me.

I prefer to *not* use the flash plugin, even for platforms where Adobe
offers one (like amd64), as a way to keep my computer free of non-free
software.

 Anyway, you right. I need to shutdown my debian, when i MUST to visit
 flash websites.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. Which of the uses above is not
covered by your needs?

If you have anything that is not covered here, then you might want to
talk with the swfdec and with the gnash developers. Free software is
shaped by your views, if you participate.

If you don't, then your problems will probably not be addressed the way
that you prefer and the programs won't work your way.

 Thank you.
 
 GRV

I'm not sure about others, but I prefer not to talk to a person whose
name I can't really see. I have already read all the arguments (a name
is just a label etc), but I like to talk to a human.

This isn't mandatory, but just a way to get more feedback (at least from
my side).


Regards, Rogério Brito.

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Re: view flash website

[Benjamin Cama]

Hi,

the grv a écrit :

You're right! Anyway, i'm a graphic designer. For my job I need a rule, a 
pencil, a sheet of paper, and unfortunely the Adobe tools. :) i MUST to view 
flash website because -as you known- Adobe fix some standards for the web 
market.

[...]
Repeat: i must. I hope that the future is better. 



Maybe am I stating the obvious, but as I didn't see it precisely 
mentionned : Adobe Flash is available only to x86 for linux and to PPC 
but for MacOS X. There is no way to make this plugin work on a PPC 
linux. Except maybe the qemu/nspluginwrapper trick but it looks far too 
hackish to me.


And don't expect anything from Adobe for PPC, as this architecture is 
commercially dead for desktop use.


The only solution, if you want the original Adobe stuff, would be for 
them to open-source it, but I am very doubtfull about it.


Regards,
Benjamin


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Re: view flash website

[Shawn H. Corey]

Benjamin Cama wrote:
The only solution, if you want the original Adobe stuff, would be for 
them to open-source it, but I am very doubtfull about it.


The strange thing is that Adobe did open source Postscript and PDF.  Why 
don't they do Flash too?



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Re: view flash website

[Benjamin Cama]

Shawn H. Corey a écrit :

Benjamin Cama wrote:
The only solution, if you want the original Adobe stuff, would be for 
them to open-source it, but I am very doubtfull about it.


The strange thing is that Adobe did open source Postscript and PDF.  Why 
don't they do Flash too?


It depends on what do you mean by open, and what was opened. 
Postscript and PDF are open specifications : everyone is free to 
implement them. But Adobe didn't open any implementation : Adobe 
Acrobat Reader is proprietary software, for example.


Concerning Flash, the specifications have recently been opened : they 
were already public before, but with restrictions on the 
implementations, like forbidding the implementation of a Flash player 
... (Tough I don't understand how one can forbid anyone to implement 
something out of a specification ...). So, today, one could implement a 
Flash player freely. That's not simple as it bears a lot of 
backward-compatibility tricks, but it is theorically possible (look at 
gnash and swfdec). But that won't be enough for youtube videos : the 
proprietary Flash codec (don't know which one they're using today) is 
still a closed-source, closed specification one. You may have a better 
chance with H264 streams, though (I don't know how much of them youtube 
has as of today).


Regards,
Benjamin


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Re: view flash website

[Stefan Monnier]

 You're right! Anyway, i'm a graphic designer. For my job I need
 a rule, a pencil, a sheet of paper, and unfortunely the Adobe
 tools. :) i MUST to view flash website because -as you known- Adobe
 fix some standards for the web market.

I understand you may feel like you don't have a choice, given your
situation in life, but if you care about your freedom then you also MUST
stay away from propietary technology.  Both of those MUST are really
personal choices, with far reaching consequences.

 And, for your consideration, every three days i want to visit You
 tube, Vimeo website, myspace, and so on web services that use
 a flash tecnology.

I don't visit these sites very much, but Gnash played all the
youtube videos I've visited in the last year, without any
particular problem.

 Many people use this services, every day.
 All stupids?

Why would you say that?  At least I haven't said anything that should
lead you to the conclusion that I consider those people stupid.

 Anyway, you right.  I need to shutdown my debian, when i MUST to visit
 flash websites.

Using another system might indeed be the only current solution to
viewing those websites, indeed.  This may also require shutting down
debian (tho maybe you can hibernate instead, or run the other
system in mac-on-linux?).
But if you don't like that solution, then you may also consider in
parallel doing one of the things I suggested:

   Help the Gnash developers make it better?
   Lobby Adobe to Free their Flash player?
   Lobby the relevant webmasters so they use something else than Flash?
   View other sites (it's not like there's a shortage, is there?)?

so as to try and get this problem solved in the future.

 Repeat: i must. I hope that the future is better. 

Things don't happen magically, people make them happen.  So if you want
your hope to become reality, you may want to try and help those people
who're trying to make it happen.


Stefan


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view flash website

[the grv]

Hi everybody. Sorry for my bad english.
Oh yes, finally i do it. I setting up my debian-box into my powerbook. I'm free.

Now, i must to view flash websites. Gnash (please forgive) is horrible.

You have a suggestion?

GRV






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Re: view flash website

[José JORGE]

A Wednesday 2 September 2009 09:11:12, the grv escreveu:
 Oh yes, finally i do it. I setting up my debian-box into my powerbook. I'm
 free.
Really?
 Now, i must to view flash websites. Gnash (please forgive) is horrible.
The cost of freedom ;-) Gnash is the best free solution. The not free Adobe 
Flash thinks Free people with powerbook are out of their market.
 You have a suggestion?
If you really need flash fully working as of today, use MacOS X, because even 
MacOS9 is forgotten by Adobe

Or GOTO x86


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Re: view flash website

[Stefan Monnier]

 Now, i must to view flash websites. Gnash (please forgive) is horrible.
 You have a suggestion?

Help the Gnash developers make it better?
Lobby Adobe to Free their Flash player?
Lobby the relevant webmasters so they use something else than Flash?
View other sites (it's not like there's a shortage, is there?)?


Stefan


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Fwd: view flash website

[Brian Morris]

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From: Brian Morris cymraeg...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 19:27:51 -0700
Subject: Re: view flash website
To: the grv my...@yahoo.co.uk

On 9/2/09, the grv my...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi everybody. Sorry for my bad english.
 Oh yes, finally i do it. I setting up my debian-box into my powerbook. I'm
 free.

 Now, i must to view flash websites. Gnash (please forgive) is horrible.

 You have a suggestion?

 GRV


VLC plays (current) flash very well as a standalone player, on osX,
but on my powerbook2000 (g4 550 upgraded, but graphics still weak) the
current version does not work either in osX or debian. Their is a
plug-in, it should be able to stand-in for flash if you can figure out
how to fake it identifying to the website (why doesn't it set itself
up this way ?)

VLC also plays MPEG video so it is handy if it works or can be made to
interface with browser





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Re: adobe flash

[Javier Serrano Polo]

 How do I install the flash plug in for ice weasel...

There's no native plugin for Linux yet. The adobe x86 plugin does work
but the support framework was rejected for lenny.


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Re: adobe flash

[Chris Bigguy]

- On Mon, 2/23/09, Javier Serrano Polo jas...@terra.es wrote:

How about gnash for ppc?  Is that ready for prime-time yet?
  - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York

 From: Javier Serrano Polo jas...@terra.es
 Subject: Re: adobe flash
 To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org
 Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 11:57 AM
  How do I install the flash plug in for ice weasel...
 
 There's no native plugin for Linux yet. The adobe x86
 plugin does work
 but the support framework was rejected for lenny.


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Re: adobe flash

[Javier Serrano Polo]

El dl 23 de 02 de 2009 a les 12:08 -0800, en/na Chris Bigguy va
escriure:
 How about gnash for ppc?  Is that ready for prime-time yet?

You may have read the release announcement:
http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214

That's what the Debian project feels about flash support. Other people
need better accuracy and use the proprietary plugin. It depends on your
flash needs.


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Re: adobe flash

[Ken Moffat]

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:26:48PM +0100, Javier Serrano Polo wrote:
 El dl 23 de 02 de 2009 a les 12:08 -0800, en/na Chris Bigguy va
 escriure:
  How about gnash for ppc?  Is that ready for prime-time yet?
 
 You may have read the release announcement:
 http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214
 
 That's what the Debian project feels about flash support. Other people
 need better accuracy and use the proprietary plugin. It depends on your
 flash needs.
 
 Do you have a url for the proprietary plugin for linux-ppc ?
Looking at adobe.com, they only claim to support x86 linux.

 Not that I'm recommending people to use non-free plugins, but I
might be willing to give it a try.

ĸen
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Re: adobe flash

[Ken Moffat]

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:08:28PM -0800, Chris Bigguy wrote:
 - On Mon, 2/23/09, Javier Serrano Polo jas...@terra.es wrote:
 
 How about gnash for ppc?  Is that ready for prime-time yet?
   - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York
 
 On all the platforms I've tried, when gnash works, it is nice (and
when it doesn't work, it just fails to do anything).  For sites like
youtube (admittedly, not tested recently on ppc - I haven't booted my
G5 for a while) it is still a bit hit-and-miss.  e.g. a couple of days
ago I found a link to a Pt1 of an old film - didn't do anything, but
Pt2 of the same film was fine.  FWIW, I also tried swfdec on x86 -
it crashed (self-compiled) firefox twice.

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Re: adobe flash

[Rafal Czlonka]

Ken Moffat wrote:
  Do you have a url for the proprietary plugin for linux-ppc ?
 Looking at adobe.com, they only claim to support x86 linux.

Such plugin doesn't exist.
When it comes to gnash and youtube - it just works.
I use it with Opera (yeah, I know) since Arora doesn't support plugins
yet.

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Re: adobe flash

[Javier Serrano Polo]

El dl 23 de 02 de 2009 a les 21:42 +, en/na Ken Moffat va escriure:
 Do you have a url for the proprietary plugin for linux-ppc ?
 Looking at adobe.com, they only claim to support x86 linux.

Did you read/understand this
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2009/02/msg00120.html ?

It won't be trivial for you to give a try.


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Re: adobe flash

[Bob Lounsbury]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Amit Uttamchandani
amit.ut...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:24:07 -0500
 stephen sefick ssef...@gmail.com wrote:

 ibook G4 Debian 5.0 Lenny
 How do I install the flash plug in for ice weasel...  Other things
 that I have noticed are that lenny doesn't go to sleep when I close my
 laptop.  How do I fix this.
 thanks in advance,


 Regarding the sleep issue I am having the same problems with a
 PowerBook G4. The last working kernel I know of is 2.6.25. Maybe the
 newer kernels fix this issue.

 For flash the only choice for power pc is gnash. It works on some
 websites but not all


I have an iBook G3 and sleep is working just fine with Lenny.
Although, I've disabled gnome-power-manager (which was causing
problems) from System-Preferences-Sessions, and I'm allowing
pbbuttonsd and powernowd to control this. Pbbuttonsd is the main
utility that controls suspend and the laptop specific keys like screen
brightness, sound, and the eject button.

The other flash choice for powerpc is swfdec-mozilla, which I think is
installed by default on Lenny as I just did a fresh install, but I
haven't tried setting it up or anything.

Cheers,
/Bob


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adobe flash

[stephen sefick]

ibook G4 Debian 5.0 Lenny
How do I install the flash plug in for ice weasel...  Other things
that I have noticed are that lenny doesn't go to sleep when I close my
laptop.  How do I fix this.
thanks in advance,

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so little or so large that all they really do for us is puff us up and
make us feel like gods.  We are mammals, and have not exhausted the
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Re: adobe flash

[Amit Uttamchandani]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:24:07 -0500
stephen sefick ssef...@gmail.com wrote:

 ibook G4 Debian 5.0 Lenny
 How do I install the flash plug in for ice weasel...  Other things
 that I have noticed are that lenny doesn't go to sleep when I close my
 laptop.  How do I fix this.
 thanks in advance,
 

Regarding the sleep issue I am having the same problems with a
PowerBook G4. The last working kernel I know of is 2.6.25. Maybe the
newer kernels fix this issue.

For flash the only choice for power pc is gnash. It works on some
websites but not all


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Fw: Adobe flash player replacement?

[thegame4121982]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 2:25 AM
To: Mike Hore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Adobe flash player replacement?

You should be able to upgrade to Lenny. just edit your 
/etc/apt/sources.list file so everything points to Lenny instead of Etch 
and then do a apt-get update and then you can yupgrade the system either 
view by the graphical package manger  and click on mark all upgrades then 
click apply or via command line by apt-get dist-upgrade I believe Lenny is 
close to being release so it is very stable. I run it on my ps3.


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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 1:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Adobe flash player replacement?


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


If you are yousing etch, it loks like you may have to compile it from 
source to install a fairly functional version of swfdec. Why not try and 
run Lenny beta2 or a weekly snapshot. This will give you a fairly recent 
version of swfdec and you won't have to compile it from source to 
install it.


OK, but could I install Lenny beta2 without wiping out all my current 
installation?  (This is actually another question I wanted to ask at some 
stage.)


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Re: Adobe flash player replacement?

[José JORGE]

A Monday 13 October 2008 06:13:31, Mike Hore escreveu:
  Sorry, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie -- I downloaded the tar.gz file and
  it decompressed into /tmp -- I can't work out how to install it from
  there.  The installation instructions talked about installing from
  source which isn't really where I want to go.

 I meant to add:  into Iceweasel.


apt-get install moz plugin for swfdec

All is already packaged!


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Re: Adobe flash player replacement?

[Esteban Monge]

I think the command is:
apt-get install swfdec-mozilla
Reference:
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=swfdec


2008/10/13 José JORGE [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 A Monday 13 October 2008 06:13:31, Mike Hore escreveu:
   Sorry, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie -- I downloaded the tar.gz file and
   it decompressed into /tmp -- I can't work out how to install it from
   there.  The installation instructions talked about installing from
   source which isn't really where I want to go.
 
  I meant to add:  into Iceweasel.
 

 apt-get install moz plugin for swfdec

 All is already packaged!


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Re: Adobe flash player replacement?

[Mike Hore]

Hi everybody,

Many thanks!!  Everything's now working.


I think the command is:


  apt-get install swfdec-mozilla


Yes, that did the trick.  I took all last night to upgrade to Lenny 
(I've got lots of stuff installed) and ran this line this morning.  Now 
the web site opens fine and the videos show up.


Thanks to all for your help!!

Cheers,  Mike.

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Adobe flash player replacement?

[Mike Hore]

Hi folks,  I've come back here after 12 months away doing other 
non-Debian things.  Anyway I did a net-install of Etch on my trusty G5 
iMac and everything went very smoothly.  I remembered to avoid some of 
the pitfalls I'd run into before, and looked in the archives both here 
and at Ubuntu for my messages from last year to see what I did then -- 
e.g. with my ISP it was important to disable ipv6.


Anyway, I'm going to have a few questions so here's the first one.  I 
went to the web site of a certain very large European airospace company, 
and it said I needed Adobe flash player to access the content.  With a 
button taking me to the Adobe site so I could download it.


Well of course there are versions for Windows, MacOSX Intel, MacOSX 
PowerPC, and Linux Intel.  Naturally, no Linux PowerPC.  Does anybody 
know of a flash player raplacement I can download that will let me 
access the content?  I obviously should check out Gnash -- will that do 
it?  I probably don't need all the bells and whistles - just enough to 
let me access the content of web sites like the one I mentioned.


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Re: Adobe flash player replacement?

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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Mike Hore wrote:
 Well of course there are versions for Windows, MacOSX Intel, MacOSX  
 PowerPC, and Linux Intel.  Naturally, no Linux PowerPC.  Does anybody  
 know of a flash player raplacement I can download that will let me  
 access the content?  I obviously should check out Gnash -- will that do  
 it?  I probably don't need all the bells and whistles - just enough to  
 let me access the content of web sites like the one I mentioned.


Gnash doesn't work very well (at least for me, it didn't).
May be you could try using swfdec which works pretty decent, also renders
youtube's player almost 100% correct.

Regards,
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Re: Adobe flash player replacement?

[Mike Hore]

Mauro Lizaur wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Mike Hore wrote:
Well of course there are versions for Windows, MacOSX Intel, MacOSX  
PowerPC, and Linux Intel.  Naturally, no Linux PowerPC.  Does anybody  
know of a flash player raplacement I can download that will let me  
access the content?  I obviously should check out Gnash -- will that do  
it?  I probably don't need all the bells and whistles - just enough to  
let me access the content of web sites like the one I mentioned.




Gnash doesn't work very well (at least for me, it didn't).
May be you could try using swfdec which works pretty decent, also renders
youtube's player almost 100% correct.


Thanks Mauro,  I'll give that a try and let the list know how it goes.

Cheers,  Mike.


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[Mike Hore]

I wrote:


Mauro Lizaur wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Mike Hore wrote:
Well of course there are versions for Windows, MacOSX Intel, MacOSX  
PowerPC, and Linux Intel.  Naturally, no Linux PowerPC.  Does 
anybody  know of a flash player raplacement I can download that will 
let me  access the content?  I obviously should check out Gnash -- 
will that do  it?  I probably don't need all the bells and whistles - 
just enough to  let me access the content of web sites like the one I 
mentioned.




Gnash doesn't work very well (at least for me, it didn't).
May be you could try using swfdec which works pretty decent, also renders
youtube's player almost 100% correct.


Thanks Mauro,  I'll give that a try and let the list know how it goes.


Sorry, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie -- I downloaded the tar.gz file and 
it decompressed into /tmp -- I can't work out how to install it from 
there.  The installation instructions talked about installing from 
source which isn't really where I want to go.


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[Mike Hore]

Sorry, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie -- I downloaded the tar.gz file and
it decompressed into /tmp -- I can't work out how to install it from
there.  The installation instructions talked about installing from
source which isn't really where I want to go.

I meant to add:  into Iceweasel.


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Mike Hore [EMAIL PROTECTED] (13/10/2008):
 Sorry, I'm a bit of a Linux newbie -- I downloaded the tar.gz file and
 it decompressed into /tmp -- I can't work out how to install it from
 there.  The installation instructions talked about installing from
 source which isn't really where I want to go.

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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Bin Zhang]

On Dec 5, 2007 11:30 PM, Børge Holen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wednesday 05 December 2007 09:27:17 Bin Zhang wrote:
  Debian unstable package mozilla-plugin-gnash works for me.

 damn, I've checked the 0.8.1~rc.070818-2 package on two different computers
 now. Same shit different arch.

 you got lucky somehow.

I don't know why gnash doesn't work for you. (I use unstable, not etch.)
Have you gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg installed ?

Bin

 
  Bin
 
 Regards,
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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Børge Holen]

On Thursday 06 December 2007 11:53:04 you wrote:
 On Dec 5, 2007 11:30 PM, Børge Holen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Wednesday 05 December 2007 09:27:17 Bin Zhang wrote:
   Debian unstable package mozilla-plugin-gnash works for me.
 
  damn, I've checked the 0.8.1~rc.070818-2 package on two different
  computers now. Same shit different arch.
 
  you got lucky somehow.

 I don't know why gnash doesn't work for you. (I use unstable, not etch.)
 Have you gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg installed ?

I use unstable to, 
 gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg on the other hand; what do I need that one for?
still doesn't work though, with the ffmpeg...


 Bin

   Bin
  
  Regards,
  Bin
 
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  some settings wrong somewhere?
 
 
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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Gerfried Fuchs]

* ZhengPeng Hou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-06 03:23:06 CET]:
 On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:52:26PM +, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
  On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:30:17 +0100, Roy Butler wrote:
   Is there a different plugin which would work or do I potentially have
   some settings wrong somewhere?
  
  AFAIK swfdec should be compatible with youtube.
  
 the latest swfdec can play those video from youtube well, and it will
 not eat too much CPU resources as gnash. :)

 Are you talking about self-compiled ones? The one in unstable
unfortunately only gave me audio, not video on youtube. I can see the
control elements, but not more, left aside that they work.

 But a new swfdec upload is currently hanging in the NEW processing
queue due to some library package renaming to follow the soname of the
library. Hopefully it will rush through these days.

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On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:22:18PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
 * ZhengPeng Hou [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-06 03:23:06 CET]:
  On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:52:26PM +, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
   On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:30:17 +0100, Roy Butler wrote:
Is there a different plugin which would work or do I potentially have
some settings wrong somewhere?
   
   AFAIK swfdec should be compatible with youtube.
   
  the latest swfdec can play those video from youtube well, and it will
  not eat too much CPU resources as gnash. :)
 
  Are you talking about self-compiled ones? The one in unstable
 unfortunately only gave me audio, not video on youtube. I can see the
 control elements, but not more, left aside that they work.
 
Yes, I built it myself, it works better then gnash.
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On Dec 4, 2007 11:45 PM, Børge Holen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:38:44 Andrzej Mendel wrote:
  Børge Holen pisze:
   On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:
   On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
   libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like
  
   http://www.nvidia.com/
  
   but not on
  
   http://www.youtube.com/
  
   Is there a different plugin which would work
  
   Yes. Gnash:
   http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
  
   you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?... mine's
   just pretending the video is loading.
 
  Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
  lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well

 selfcompile?
 the deb packages does'n work then?

Debian unstable package mozilla-plugin-gnash works for me.

Bin

 
   Regards,
   Bin
  
   or do I potentially have
   some settings wrong somewhere?
  
  
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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Børge Holen]

On Wednesday 05 December 2007 09:27:17 Bin Zhang wrote:
 On Dec 4, 2007 11:45 PM, Børge Holen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:38:44 Andrzej Mendel wrote:
   Børge Holen pisze:
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like
   
http://www.nvidia.com/
   
but not on
   
http://www.youtube.com/
   
Is there a different plugin which would work
   
Yes. Gnash:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
   
you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?...
mine's just pretending the video is loading.
  
   Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
   lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well
 
  selfcompile?
  the deb packages does'n work then?

 Debian unstable package mozilla-plugin-gnash works for me.

damn, I've checked the 0.8.1~rc.070818-2 package on two different computers 
now. Same shit different arch.

you got lucky somehow.


 Bin

Regards,
Bin
   
or do I potentially have
some settings wrong somewhere?
   
   
TIA,
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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Børge Holen]

On Wednesday 05 December 2007 09:27:17 Bin Zhang wrote:
 On Dec 4, 2007 11:45 PM, Børge Holen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:38:44 Andrzej Mendel wrote:
   Børge Holen pisze:
On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:
On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like
   
http://www.nvidia.com/
   
but not on
   
http://www.youtube.com/
   
Is there a different plugin which would work
   
Yes. Gnash:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
   
you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?...
mine's just pretending the video is loading.
  
   Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
   lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well
 
  selfcompile?
  the deb packages does'n work then?

 Debian unstable package mozilla-plugin-gnash works for me.

lucky you then, those packages ain't doin jack for me, just shows up the 
loading screen... and just loading till the end of time.


 Bin

Regards,
Bin
   
or do I potentially have
some settings wrong somewhere?
   
   
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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Bin Zhang]

On Dec 4, 2007 11:56 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've worked with Linux for quite some time, but am new to Debian.  When
 I didn't find anything with

 apt-cache search --names-only gnash


gnash only for testing/unstable:
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gnashsearchon=namessuite=allsection=allsourceid=mozilla-search

Bin

 I figured a compiling myself was the way to go.  I did find deb packages
 for all of its dependencies, except for swfmill, which I also compiled.
   So far, I throw stuff like this in my /opt directory.


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On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:52:26PM +, Jack Malmostoso wrote:
 On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:30:17 +0100, Roy Butler wrote:
 
  Is there a different plugin which would work or do I potentially have
  some settings wrong somewhere?
 
 AFAIK swfdec should be compatible with youtube.
 
the latest swfdec can play those video from youtube well, and it will
not eat too much CPU resources as gnash. :)
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Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Roy Butler]

I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the 
libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like


http://www.nvidia.com/

but not on

http://www.youtube.com/

Is there a different plugin which would work or do I potentially have 
some settings wrong somewhere?



TIA,
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On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
 libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like

 http://www.nvidia.com/

 but not on

 http://www.youtube.com/

 Is there a different plugin which would work

Yes. Gnash:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

Regards,
Bin

 or do I potentially have
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 21:30:17 +0100, Roy Butler wrote:

 Is there a different plugin which would work or do I potentially have
 some settings wrong somewhere?

AFAIK swfdec should be compatible with youtube.

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Bin Zhang wrote:

On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like

http://www.nvidia.com/

but not on

http://www.youtube.com/

Is there a different plugin which would work


Yes. Gnash:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/


Thanks very much.  I followed the build instructions (more or less) from

http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_on_Debian

and it's working great.


Roy


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On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:
 On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
  libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like
 
  http://www.nvidia.com/
 
  but not on
 
  http://www.youtube.com/
 
  Is there a different plugin which would work

 Yes. Gnash:
 http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?... mine's just 
pretending the video is loading.


 Regards,
 Bin

  or do I potentially have
  some settings wrong somewhere?
 
 
  TIA,
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 On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:
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 I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
 libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like

 http://www.nvidia.com/

 but not on

 http://www.youtube.com/

 Is there a different plugin which would work
 Yes. Gnash:
 http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
 
 you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?... mine's just 
 pretending the video is loading.
 
Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well
 Regards,
 Bin

 or do I potentially have
 some settings wrong somewhere?


 TIA,
 Roy



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[Børge Holen]

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:38:44 Andrzej Mendel wrote:
 Børge Holen pisze:
  On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:
  On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
  libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like
 
  http://www.nvidia.com/
 
  but not on
 
  http://www.youtube.com/
 
  Is there a different plugin which would work
 
  Yes. Gnash:
  http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
 
  you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?... mine's
  just pretending the video is loading.

 Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
 lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well

selfcompile?
the deb packages does'n work then?


  Regards,
  Bin
 
  or do I potentially have
  some settings wrong somewhere?
 
 
  TIA,
  Roy



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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Roy Butler]

Børge Holen wrote:

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:

On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like

http://www.nvidia.com/

but not on

http://www.youtube.com/

Is there a different plugin which would work

Yes. Gnash:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/


you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?... mine's just 
pretending the video is loading.


Yep.  Video, sound, and everything.  Haven't run it extensively yet, but 
did try a couple of videos successfully.



Roy


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Børge Holen wrote:

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:38:44 Andrzej Mendel wrote:

Børge Holen pisze:

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:

On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like

http://www.nvidia.com/

but not on

http://www.youtube.com/

Is there a different plugin which would work

Yes. Gnash:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?... mine's
just pretending the video is loading.

Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well


selfcompile?
the deb packages does'n work then?


Right, I compiled 0.8.1 following the instructions at

http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_on_Debian

I've worked with Linux for quite some time, but am new to Debian.  When 
I didn't find anything with


apt-cache search --names-only gnash

I figured a compiling myself was the way to go.  I did find deb packages 
for all of its dependencies, except for swfmill, which I also compiled. 
 So far, I throw stuff like this in my /opt directory.



Roy


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[Børge Holen]

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:56:13 Roy Butler wrote:
 Børge Holen wrote:
  On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:38:44 Andrzej Mendel wrote:
  Børge Holen pisze:
  On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:
  On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
  libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like
 
  http://www.nvidia.com/
 
  but not on
 
  http://www.youtube.com/
 
  Is there a different plugin which would work
 
  Yes. Gnash:
  http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
 
  you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?...
  mine's just pretending the video is loading.
 
  Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
  lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well
 
  selfcompile?
  the deb packages does'n work then?

 Right, I compiled 0.8.1 following the instructions at

   http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_on_Debian

 I've worked with Linux for quite some time, but am new to Debian.  When
 I didn't find anything with

   apt-cache search --names-only gnash

 I figured a compiling myself was the way to go.  I did find deb packages
 for all of its dependencies, except for swfmill, which I also compiled.
   So far, I throw stuff like this in my /opt directory.

I know, so did I. 
never cared much for opt, I'm just going with /usr/local/bin

but the gnash wont compile and breaks off with a nonsense error on 
deb/testing. Can't remember now what happened, I'll try again in a while to 
see if things changes after some cvs updates.



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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Roy Butler]

Børge Holen wrote:

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:56:13 Roy Butler wrote:

Børge Holen wrote:

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 23:38:44 Andrzej Mendel wrote:

Børge Holen pisze:

On Tuesday 04 December 2007 21:52:00 Bin Zhang wrote:

On Dec 4, 2007 8:05 PM, Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm running Debian Etch on a PPC.  Using Iceweasel/Firefox with the
libflash-mozplugin.so 0.4.12, I can get Flash working on sites like

http://www.nvidia.com/

but not on

http://www.youtube.com/

Is there a different plugin which would work

Yes. Gnash:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/

you actually got Gnash working on showing videos from youtube?...
mine's just pretending the video is loading.

Newer Gnash version work reliably with YouTube (although they consume a
lot of CPU power). I'm using latest CVS, but 0.8.1 should do as well

selfcompile?
the deb packages does'n work then?

Right, I compiled 0.8.1 following the instructions at

http://wiki.gnashdev.org/wiki/index.php/Building_on_Debian

I've worked with Linux for quite some time, but am new to Debian.  When
I didn't find anything with

apt-cache search --names-only gnash

I figured a compiling myself was the way to go.  I did find deb packages
for all of its dependencies, except for swfmill, which I also compiled.
  So far, I throw stuff like this in my /opt directory.


I know, so did I. 
never cared much for opt, I'm just going with /usr/local/bin


but the gnash wont compile and breaks off with a nonsense error on 
deb/testing. Can't remember now what happened, I'll try again in a while to 
see if things changes after some cvs updates.


After apt-get'ing all of the dependencies and building swfmill, I added 
the ming and swfmill binaries to my path, in order for the configure to 
complete successfully through the testing phase:


export PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/libming/bin:/opt/swfmill-0.2.12/bin

Also, I think the libming-util deb package being needed may not have 
been explicitly called out.  But, after all of this, things worked great 
with the 0.8.1 gnash available here:


http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/gnash/0.8.1/


Roy


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Re: Flash viewer for PPC Etch

[Jörg Sommer]

Hello Roy,

Roy Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   http://www.youtube.com/

 Is there a different plugin which would work or do I potentially have 
 some settings wrong somewhere?

Sorry, I can't answer your question, but maybe youtube-dl and clive help
you.

Bye, Jörg.
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Re: Installation from USB flash drive failing - libc/relocation error

[Sven Luther]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:03:41AM +1000, Nigel O'Brian wrote:
 
 I am trying to install from Debian Testing netinst iso on an old
 Powerbook G4 using the 'hd-media' kernel, initrd and yaboot.conf from
 
 http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc/daily/powerpc/hd-media/
 
 I have tried several recent daily builds, all with the same result.
 Latest is 2007-07-29. Boot is successful and I choose the language OK,
 but then get the following when choosing the keyboard:
 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Menu item 'kbd-chooser' selected 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
 description for console-keymaps-usb 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
 description for console-keymaps-at 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
 description for console-keymaps-usb 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
 description for console-keymaps-at 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: (process:1308): kbd-chooser: relocation 
 error: kbd-chooser: symbol sprintf, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file 
 libc.so.6 with link time reference 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Configuring 'kbd-chooser'failed 
 with error code 127 
 Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Menu item 'kbd-chooser' failed. 
 Jan  1 00:02:45 main-menu[1016]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package doesn't 
 exist (ignored) 
 Jan  1 00:02:45 main-menu[1016]: DEBUG: resolver (dhcp3-client-udeb):
 package doesn't exist (ignored) 
 
 The installer successfully finds and mounts the netinst iso but
 fails again at the next stage with similar errors to the above:
 
 Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: (process:6951): anna: relocation error: 
 anna: symbol asprintf, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file
 libc.so.6 with link time reference 
 Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Configuring 'load-iso' failed 
 with error code 127 
 Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Menu item 'load-iso'
 failed.
 
 The Powerbook is old and clunky (in fact the CD drive does not work,
 which is why I am trying to install from USB) so I am reluctant to
 claim a bug. But I do see some earlier reports of installation
 problems with libc and wonder if this is related.

I am seeing the same problem with todays netboot image, so i suggest you
file a bug report against d-i or something. I suppose that the current
d-i are built with an incompatible libc or an mklibs problem.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Installation from USB flash drive failing - libc/relocation error

[Sven Luther]

On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 06:12:54PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 12:03:41AM +1000, Nigel O'Brian wrote:
  
  I am trying to install from Debian Testing netinst iso on an old
  Powerbook G4 using the 'hd-media' kernel, initrd and yaboot.conf from
  
  http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc/daily/powerpc/hd-media/
  
  I have tried several recent daily builds, all with the same result.
  Latest is 2007-07-29. Boot is successful and I choose the language OK,
  but then get the following when choosing the keyboard:
  
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Menu item 'kbd-chooser' selected 
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
  description for console-keymaps-usb 
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
  description for console-keymaps-at 
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
  description for console-keymaps-usb 
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package 
  description for console-keymaps-at 
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: (process:1308): kbd-chooser: relocation 
  error: kbd-chooser: symbol sprintf, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file 
  libc.so.6 with link time reference 
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Configuring 
  'kbd-chooser'failed with error code 127 
  Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Menu item 'kbd-chooser' 
  failed. 
  Jan  1 00:02:45 main-menu[1016]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package doesn't 
  exist (ignored) 
  Jan  1 00:02:45 main-menu[1016]: DEBUG: resolver (dhcp3-client-udeb):
  package doesn't exist (ignored) 
  
  The installer successfully finds and mounts the netinst iso but
  fails again at the next stage with similar errors to the above:
  
  Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: (process:6951): anna: relocation error: 
  anna: symbol asprintf, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file
  libc.so.6 with link time reference 
  Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Configuring 'load-iso' failed 
  with error code 127 
  Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Menu item 'load-iso'
  failed.
  
  The Powerbook is old and clunky (in fact the CD drive does not work,
  which is why I am trying to install from USB) so I am reluctant to
  claim a bug. But I do see some earlier reports of installation
  problems with libc and wonder if this is related.
 
 I am seeing the same problem with todays netboot image, so i suggest you
 file a bug report against d-i or something. I suppose that the current
 d-i are built with an incompatible libc or an mklibs problem.

Just filled a bug report.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Installation from USB flash drive failing - libc/relocation error

[Nigel O'Brian]

I am trying to install from Debian Testing netinst iso on an old
Powerbook G4 using the 'hd-media' kernel, initrd and yaboot.conf from

http://people.debian.org/~wouter/d-i/powerpc/daily/powerpc/hd-media/

I have tried several recent daily builds, all with the same result.
Latest is 2007-07-29. Boot is successful and I choose the language OK,
but then get the following when choosing the keyboard:

Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Menu item 'kbd-chooser' selected 
Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package description 
for console-keymaps-usb 
Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package description 
for console-keymaps-at 
Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package description 
for console-keymaps-usb 
Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: INFO: Falling back to the package description 
for console-keymaps-at 
Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: (process:1308): kbd-chooser: relocation error: 
kbd-chooser: symbol sprintf, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 
with link time reference 
Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Configuring 'kbd-chooser'failed 
with error code 127 
Jan  1 00:02:44 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Menu item 'kbd-chooser' failed. 
Jan  1 00:02:45 main-menu[1016]: DEBUG: resolver (libc6): package doesn't exist 
(ignored) 
Jan  1 00:02:45 main-menu[1016]: DEBUG: resolver (dhcp3-client-udeb):
package doesn't exist (ignored) 

The installer successfully finds and mounts the netinst iso but
fails again at the next stage with similar errors to the above:

Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: (process:6951): anna: relocation error: anna: 
symbol asprintf, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file
libc.so.6 with link time reference 
Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Configuring 'load-iso' failed with 
error code 127 
Jan  1 00:03:57 main-menu[1016]: WARNING **: Menu item 'load-iso'
failed.

The Powerbook is old and clunky (in fact the CD drive does not work,
which is why I am trying to install from USB) so I am reluctant to
claim a bug. But I do see some earlier reports of installation
problems with libc and wonder if this is related.

thanks for any advice.

Nigel


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Re: ppc and flash?

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* Sat 04 Nov (03:32), Lutz Willek scrive:
 That really isn't possible? No Way?

Try to look gnash
apt-cache show gnash

 
 
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[Lutz Willek]

That really isn't possible? No Way?


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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[David Howe]

Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the 
net. Its absence in ppc linux is  fairly remarkable and compares badly 
with the status of flash for i386


Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth 
the hassle.


d

Jeremiah Benham wrote:

On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 04:54:06AM -0400, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote:
  

=\
Is it me or has the use of Windows as a great graphics platform now
surpassed Apple?  I mean I understand that the flash which is



sarcasm Yes! because flash is just the zenith of all computer
graphics!!! /sarcasm 


I have never found any proprietary software that qualifies as great.

Jeremiah


  



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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[Sven Luther]

On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:17:04PM +1000, David Howe wrote:
 Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the 
 net. Its absence in ppc linux is  fairly remarkable and compares badly 
 with the status of flash for i386
 
 Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth 
 the hassle.

The only alternative is to find truckloads of cash, and then convince
macromedia (now bought by adobe) to do a powerpc/linux build of it.

Now, with apple leaving the powerpc market, this is even less likely to
happen.

So, if you are disatisfied with the powerpc/flash situation, get beyond one
of the free flash projects.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[dtutty]

On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:17:04PM +1000, David Howe wrote:
 Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the 
 net. Its absence in ppc linux is  fairly remarkable and compares badly 
 with the status of flash for i386
 
 Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth 
 the hassle.
 
 d
 
What are the alternatives.  I hate flash; I use dialup internet over a
noisy rural phone line.  On a 486.  I'm upgrading to an RS/6000 H50
because I want the reliability in an inexpensive (huge) package.
However, the driving factor in the upgrade is the dismal performance of
firefox and web access in general.  On many websites I access (generally
sites with a product catalog), flash is __required__ to access anything
other than the 'what the heck is this' icon.

So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the
alternatives?

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[Sven Luther]

On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:24:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:17:04PM +1000, David Howe wrote:
  Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the 
  net. Its absence in ppc linux is  fairly remarkable and compares badly 
  with the status of flash for i386
  
  Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth 
  the hassle.
  
  d
  
 What are the alternatives.  I hate flash; I use dialup internet over a
 noisy rural phone line.  On a 486.  I'm upgrading to an RS/6000 H50
 because I want the reliability in an inexpensive (huge) package.
 However, the driving factor in the upgrade is the dismal performance of
 firefox and web access in general.  On many websites I access (generally
 sites with a product catalog), flash is __required__ to access anything
 other than the 'what the heck is this' icon.
 
 So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the
 alternatives?

There are at least two free flash player. One is swf-player, the other is
never, but i never tested it and didn't remember the name.

swf-player is not really working for the newer flash stuff, but it may work
for some.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[Patrick Bachmann]

Sven Luther wrote:

So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the
alternatives?



There are at least two free flash player. One is swf-player, the other is
never, but i never tested it and didn't remember the name.

swf-player is not really working for the newer flash stuff, but it may work
for some.


Another solution is to get the linux x86 version of the Macromedia 
plug-in running within qemu. Some folks [0] did it with version 6 of 
the player.


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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[Helge Kreutzmann]

Hello,
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 01:28:17PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
 There are at least two free flash player. One is swf-player, the other is
 never, but i never tested it and didn't remember the name.

It is called gnash and under heavy development. I read that the
browser plugin is now getting usable, but haven't tried. Check out
www.gnu.org for the exact location (or try the package in
experimental).

Personally I consider flash synonym for we don't want your attention
or money[1] which is perfectly fine with me.

Greetings

Helge

[1] Last year I tried to find the prices of an huge german DSL provider 
but failed. Later (after deciding for an competitor) I saw on an
windows box that all price information was stored in a flash
movie. Well, too bad for them.
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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[Chasecreek Systemhouse]

On 7/14/06, Helge Kreutzmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[1] Last year I tried to find the prices of an huge german DSL provider
but failed. Later (after deciding for an competitor) I saw on an
windows box that all price information was stored in a flash
movie. Well, too bad for them.


This has been and is my experience -- however I find my 7 year old
needs flash for some kids related web content.  I just gonna have to
bite the bullet and buy a Windows i386 box.
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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

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 So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the
 alternatives?

Gnash, as has been pointed out.  But basically, if a website has
something in flash, its content is not important.  Or at least, for
the creators of the page, users and their rights are not important.

Which is a good enough reason not to visit such pages.

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Flash v7 compatible?

[Chasecreek Systemhouse]

=\
Is it me or has the use of Windows as a great graphics platform now
surpassed Apple?  I mean I understand that the flash which is
available is not as feature rich as that which is available for
Windows but is there some way to get a faster development cycle --
maybe shoot for Flash version 8 compatibilty before we all die?

In closing I wold like to direct interested parties to:
http://www.flashsandy.org/tutorials/2-create-a-first-box

Thank you for listening to my rant  /=

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Re: Flash v7 compatible?

[Jeremiah Benham]

On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 04:54:06AM -0400, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote:
 =\
 Is it me or has the use of Windows as a great graphics platform now
 surpassed Apple?  I mean I understand that the flash which is

sarcasm Yes! because flash is just the zenith of all computer
graphics!!! /sarcasm 

I have never found any proprietary software that qualifies as great.

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
 no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
 However I still don't see the content, I only see a
 blank field where there should be content.

I get the same result on a sarge system.

 
 Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
 installed the package from stabel sarge.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Terry

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
 no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
 However I still don't see the content, I only see a
 blank field where there should be content.
 
 Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
 installed the package from stabel sarge.
I made the experience that it sometimes works but in most
cases doesn't. Recent versions in sid has improved the situation
but it still kills my web browser way to often.

  Uwe

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

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Op woensdag 22 maart 2006 09:09, schreef [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
  no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages.
  However I still don't see the content, I only see a
  blank field where there should be content.

 I get the same result on a sarge system.

  Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
  installed the package from stabel sarge.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Terry


I've had succes using qemu. But I don't remember exactly how I did it. Google 
for it.

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:16:02AM +0100, Uwe Steinmann wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
  no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
  However I still don't see the content, I only see a
  blank field where there should be content.
  
  Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
  installed the package from stabel sarge.
 I made the experience that it sometimes works but in most
 cases doesn't. Recent versions in sid has improved the situation
 but it still kills my web browser way to often.

Same here, on unstable: I already was considering removing swf-player
completely from the system, because of these at times really ugly
crashes of Firefox: Firefox in these instances is eating around 85-90%
of the CPU after, IINM, swf-player has been loaded.

Best Regards
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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:54:35PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:16:02AM +0100, Uwe Steinmann wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
   no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
   However I still don't see the content, I only see a
   blank field where there should be content.
   
   Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
   installed the package from stabel sarge.
  I made the experience that it sometimes works but in most
  cases doesn't. Recent versions in sid has improved the situation
  but it still kills my web browser way to often.
 
 Same here, on unstable: I already was considering removing swf-player
 completely from the system, because of these at times really ugly
 crashes of Firefox: Firefox in these instances is eating around 85-90%
 of the CPU after, IINM, swf-player has been loaded.

It seems I was wrong:

I just removed swf-player completely (aptitude also removed a few
other 'unused' packages with that removal), re-started Firefox, and
the CPU Load problem still persists: You can verify it here:
http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/index.html

In short: The page above eats a huge load of my CPU no matter whether
swf-player is installed or not ... There's obviously  something else
that's wrong ...

Best Regards
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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Mike Small]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:54:35PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:16:02AM +0100, Uwe Steinmann wrote:
  On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
   no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
   However I still don't see the content, I only see a
   blank field where there should be content.
   
   Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
   installed the package from stabel sarge.
  I made the experience that it sometimes works but in most
  cases doesn't. Recent versions in sid has improved the situation
  but it still kills my web browser way to often.
 
 Same here, on unstable: I already was considering removing swf-player
 completely from the system, because of these at times really ugly
 crashes of Firefox: Firefox in these instances is eating around 85-90%
 of the CPU after, IINM, swf-player has been loaded.
 

Another way of handling this would be to use the noscript plugin.  It
will let you disable flash (or javascript) generally, but it has a
handy icon to enable it for an individual site.  So you could
generally avoid it, but if there was some site you really wanted to
try you could turn it on and see if swf-player works for it.

On this topic, has anyone tried Gnash?  I got an announcement about it
from the FSF early in January (they were asking for more developers,
if anyone's interested), but haven't heard anything about it since.
Is it more or less mature than swf-player?

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Uwe Steinmann]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 03:06:22PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:54:35PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:16:02AM +0100, Uwe Steinmann wrote:
   On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
However I still don't see the content, I only see a
blank field where there should be content.

Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
installed the package from stabel sarge.
   I made the experience that it sometimes works but in most
   cases doesn't. Recent versions in sid has improved the situation
   but it still kills my web browser way to often.
  
  Same here, on unstable: I already was considering removing swf-player
  completely from the system, because of these at times really ugly
  crashes of Firefox: Firefox in these instances is eating around 85-90%
  of the CPU after, IINM, swf-player has been loaded.
 
 It seems I was wrong:
 
 I just removed swf-player completely (aptitude also removed a few
 other 'unused' packages with that removal), re-started Firefox, and
 the CPU Load problem still persists: You can verify it here:
 http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/index.html
Just loaded that page with galeon and it takes 65% of the cpu.
But at least it doesn't screw up. Leaving that pages (which makes sense
in any case :-) lets galeon return to normal behavior.

 In short: The page above eats a huge load of my CPU no matter whether
 swf-player is installed or not ... There's obviously  something else
 that's wrong ...
Is there an swf animation on that page at all?

 Uwe

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 10:04:01AM -0500, Mike Small wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:54:35PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:

  Same here, on unstable: I already was considering removing swf-player
  completely from the system, because of these at times really ugly
  crashes of Firefox: Firefox in these instances is eating around 85-90%
  of the CPU after, IINM, swf-player has been loaded.
  
 
 Another way of handling this would be to use the noscript plugin.  It
 will let you disable flash (or javascript) generally, but it has a
 handy icon to enable it for an individual site.  

Thanks a lot for letting me know about it: I just installed the plugin
to Firefox, and it really seems to help ... :)

 So you could generally avoid it, but if there was some site you
 really wanted to try you could turn it on and see if swf-player
 works for it.
 
 On this topic, has anyone tried Gnash?  

After a quick apt-cache search .. it does not seem to be available
for Debian(, yet?). Same here:

http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=namessubword=1version=allrelease=allkeywords=gnash


Thanks again :)

Best Regards
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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 04:23:53PM +0100, Uwe Steinmann wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 03:06:22PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 02:54:35PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
   On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 09:16:02AM +0100, Uwe Steinmann wrote:
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:47:22PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
 no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
 However I still don't see the content, I only see a
 blank field where there should be content.
 
 Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
 installed the package from stabel sarge.
I made the experience that it sometimes works but in most
cases doesn't. Recent versions in sid has improved the situation
but it still kills my web browser way to often.
   
   Same here, on unstable: I already was considering removing swf-player
   completely from the system, because of these at times really ugly
   crashes of Firefox: Firefox in these instances is eating around 85-90%
   of the CPU after, IINM, swf-player has been loaded.
  
  It seems I was wrong:
  
  I just removed swf-player completely (aptitude also removed a few
  other 'unused' packages with that removal), re-started Firefox, and
  the CPU Load problem still persists: You can verify it here:
  http://www.bild.t-online.de/BTO/index.html
 Just loaded that page with galeon and it takes 65% of the cpu.
 But at least it doesn't screw up. Leaving that pages (which makes sense
 in any case :-) 

... it looks like, yes ... :) 

 lets galeon return to normal behavior.
 
  In short: The page above eats a huge load of my CPU no matter whether
  swf-player is installed or not ... There's obviously  something else
  that's wrong ...
 Is there an swf animation on that page at all?

I doubt it: A 
ps ax | grep -i swf
didn't show anything about swf-player

But the nosccript plugin in Firefox tells me there are 4 (!) sites on
this one single page trying to start scripts ... So this might explain
the CPU load perhaps ...

Best Regards
Wolfgang

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Wolfgang Pfeiffer]

On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 07:12:00PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
 
 But the nosccript plugin in Firefox tells me there are 4 (!) sites on
  ^

Should say:
noscript

Sorry about that ..

Wolfgang

 this one single page trying to start scripts ... So this might explain
 the CPU load perhaps ...
 
 Best Regards
 Wolfgang
 

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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Daniel Gimpelevich]

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:04:01 -0500, Mike Small wrote:

 On this topic, has anyone tried Gnash?  I got an announcement about it
 from the FSF early in January (they were asking for more developers,
 if anyone's interested), but haven't heard anything about it since.
 Is it more or less mature than swf-player?

I tried compiling Gnash from CVS a while ago, and it generally did not
work. I should try again really soon because its development is proceeding
at a rapid pace.


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Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[tgs154-em]

I've installed the swf-player package on Debian, and I
no longer see the missing plugin icon on pages. 
However I still don't see the content, I only see a
blank field where there should be content.

Is there something else that I need to set?  I've
installed the package from stabel sarge.

Thanks,

Terry


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Re: Does Shockware Flash Plugin for Mozilla work on powerpc arch?

[Yves-Alexis Perez]

On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:47 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there something else that I need to set?

a x86 ?
Flash player is known not to work well, especially on sarge. I don't
know how it is on sid, though.
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Getting Flash support on Sarge

[Nathan Thrower]

I want to get a Flash plugin to run under Sarge. I downloaded the
source for GPLFlash 0.4.13, but upon running ./configure I'm eventually
met with the error configure: error: *** GPLFlash requires
libjpeg. I Googled for libjpeg, but all I found was jpeg-6b --
which was a few years old. Regardless, I downloaded the source
and compiled it, but I still get the same error when trying to
./configure GPLFlash. I'm running Debian Sarge with the stock
kernel on an Apple PowerBook G3 500 MHz 'Pismo'.

Re: Getting Flash support on Sarge

[Tommy Trussell]

On 6/6/05, David Schleef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:34:52AM -0400, Nathan Thrower wrote:
  I want to get a Flash plugin to run under Sarge. 
...
 apt-get install swf-player

I agree that swf-player seems to work better than the others -- at
least it doesn't crash as much. But are there any tricks to getting
swf-player to work when it doesn't? I think it used to work
(sometimes) in Firefox about six months ago, but most of the time I
only get a blank grey area in browser pages since then.

I've gone through some of the tests listed at
http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/ but it seems like something is
missing, and I probably didn't see it among all the information on the
gstreamer site. Can I get some sort of debug information from the
browser plugin when it's running?

P.S.: I just reinstalled the totem-gstreamer package. When I play a
file called userfriendly.swf (cartoon movie) in totem, the audio
plays, but the image is extremely blurred as if some sort of effect is
being applied. I don't see any useful error messages on the command
line.

I tried it again in Firefox 1.0.4, and I just get the empty grey
rectangle. I just tried again in Mozilla 1.7.8 and discovered that
userfriendly.swf DOES play there ...

So maybe I need to check the Firefox plugin... ?

still no macromedia flash support?

[William Xuuu]

Hi,

Firefox complains Install Missing Plugins now and then, though as
directed, i installed it, but it still complains. Looking into 
`~/.mozilla/plugins', i found that libflashplayer.so is built on Intel
80386, so there's still no support in linuxppc arch ?

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RE: still no macromedia flash support?

[SteX]

Hi William Xuuu,

Firefox complains Install Missing Plugins now and then, though as
directed, i installed it, but it still complains. Looking into
`~/.mozilla/plugins', i found that libflashplayer.so is built on Intel
80386, so there's still no support in linuxppc arch ?

if you reach for the plugins tab in Preferences menu, you will find an
option such install available plugins, click on it and the Firefox will
search for it. I succesfully installed a Macromedia plugin.
Have a look.

Thanks

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