Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the > alternatives? Gnash, as has been pointed out. But basically, if a website has something in flash, its content is not important. Or at least, for the creators of the page, users and their rights are not important. Which is a good enough reason not to visit such pages. -- In the GNU Project, discrimination against proprietary software is not just a policy -- it's the principle and the purpose. Proprietary software is fundamentally unjust and wrong, so when we have the opportunity to place it at a disadvantage, that is a good thing. --RMS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
On 7/14/06, Helge Kreutzmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [1] Last year I tried to find the prices of an huge german DSL provider but failed. Later (after deciding for an competitor) I saw on an windows box that all price information was "stored" in a flash movie. Well, too bad for them. This has been and is my experience -- however I find my 7 year old needs flash for some kids related web content. I just gonna have to bite the bullet and buy a Windows i386 box. -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
Hello, On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 01:28:17PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > There are at least two free flash player. One is swf-player, the other is > never, but i never tested it and didn't remember the name. It is called gnash and under heavy development. I read that the browser plugin is now getting usable, but haven't tried. Check out www.gnu.org for the exact location (or try the package in experimental). Personally I consider flash synonym for "we don't want your attention or money"[1] which is perfectly fine with me. Greetings Helge [1] Last year I tried to find the prices of an huge german DSL provider but failed. Later (after deciding for an competitor) I saw on an windows box that all price information was "stored" in a flash movie. Well, too bad for them. -- Dr. Helge Kreutzmann, Dipl.-Phys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg signed mail preferred 64bit GNU powered http://www.itp.uni-hannover.de/~kreutzm Help keep free software "libre": http://www.ffii.de/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
Sven Luther wrote: So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the alternatives? There are at least two free flash player. One is swf-player, the other is never, but i never tested it and didn't remember the name. swf-player is not really working for the newer flash stuff, but it may work for some. Another solution is to get the linux x86 version of the Macromedia plug-in running within qemu. Some folks [0] did it with version 6 of the player. Patrick --- [0] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=117774 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:24:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:17:04PM +1000, David Howe wrote: > > Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the > > net. Its absence in ppc linux is fairly remarkable and compares badly > > with the status of flash for i386 > > > > Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth > > the hassle. > > > > d > > What are the alternatives. I hate flash; I use dialup internet over a > noisy rural phone line. On a 486. I'm upgrading to an RS/6000 H50 > because I want the reliability in an inexpensive (huge) package. > However, the driving factor in the upgrade is the dismal performance of > firefox and web access in general. On many websites I access (generally > sites with a product catalog), flash is __required__ to access anything > other than the 'what the heck is this' icon. > > So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the > alternatives? There are at least two free flash player. One is swf-player, the other is never, but i never tested it and didn't remember the name. swf-player is not really working for the newer flash stuff, but it may work for some. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:17:04PM +1000, David Howe wrote: > Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the > net. Its absence in ppc linux is fairly remarkable and compares badly > with the status of flash for i386 > > Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth > the hassle. > > d What are the alternatives. I hate flash; I use dialup internet over a noisy rural phone line. On a 486. I'm upgrading to an RS/6000 H50 because I want the reliability in an inexpensive (huge) package. However, the driving factor in the upgrade is the dismal performance of firefox and web access in general. On many websites I access (generally sites with a product catalog), flash is __required__ to access anything other than the 'what the heck is this' icon. So on the PPC, when you need to read a flash page, what are the alternatives? Thanks, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
On Fri, Jul 14, 2006 at 07:17:04PM +1000, David Howe wrote: > Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the > net. Its absence in ppc linux is fairly remarkable and compares badly > with the status of flash for i386 > > Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth > the hassle. The only alternative is to find truckloads of cash, and then convince macromedia (now bought by adobe) to do a powerpc/linux build of it. Now, with apple leaving the powerpc market, this is even less likely to happen. So, if you are disatisfied with the powerpc/flash situation, get beyond one of the free flash projects. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
Unfortunately flash although not great, is very pervasive across the net. Its absence in ppc linux is fairly remarkable and compares badly with the status of flash for i386 Yes, I have tried the alternatives, basically i think they are not worth the hassle. d Jeremiah Benham wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 04:54:06AM -0400, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: =\ Is it me or has the use of Windows as a "great" graphics platform now surpassed Apple? I mean I understand that the flash which is Yes! because flash is just the zenith of all computer graphics!!! I have never found any proprietary software that qualifies as "great". Jeremiah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash < v7 compatible?
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 04:54:06AM -0400, Chasecreek Systemhouse wrote: > =\ > Is it me or has the use of Windows as a "great" graphics platform now > surpassed Apple? I mean I understand that the flash which is Yes! because flash is just the zenith of all computer graphics!!! I have never found any proprietary software that qualifies as "great". Jeremiah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flash < v7 compatible?
=\ Is it me or has the use of Windows as a "great" graphics platform now surpassed Apple? I mean I understand that the flash which is available is not as feature rich as that which is available for Windows but is there some way to get a faster development cycle -- maybe shoot for Flash version 8 compatibilty before we all die? In closing I wold like to direct interested parties to: http://www.flashsandy.org/tutorials/2-create-a-first-box Thank you for listening to my rant /= =) -- WC (Bill) Jones -- http://youve-reached-the.endoftheinternet.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
