Re: Getting 7500 w/ G3 upgrade card to boot w/ quik

2005-01-20 Thread SR, ESC
Le mar 2005-01-18 a 17:55:40 -0500, Sean Jewett [EMAIL PROTECTED] a dit:
 
 I have a 7500 with a G3 upgrade card (Sonnet Crescendo G3/PCI 250Mhz 512K
 cache) that I'm having trouble getting to boot w/ quik.  I can run the
 boot / root disks just fine, but after installing quik and rebooting the
 system hangs.  I've spent the better part of the day going through various
 troubleshooting tips, a fair bit of which came from the NetBSD stuff here:
 
both an 8500 and a power tower pro with a g3/300 here. both booted
with no problems. the MESH SCSI controller might be getting in the way
hoever. i encountered that with another PT pro witha g3/400. you need
the g3/mesh patch possibly:

http://www.cpu.lu/~mlan/linux/dev/g3upgrade.html :
Booting from the internal SCSI bus

set your output-device to whatever your video device is, and set your
input-device to kbd (use boot var. or system disk:
http://simonraven.nuit.ca/macppc/files/) and see if OF keeps whining
about resetting SCSI Bus... repeatedly.

if it is, then you need the patch (info grabbed from first URI).

and please use quik 2.1, it's got new stuff in it that should make it
much more usable. sarge's is updated to that version as of a few days
ago.

CC me if you have problems, i don't always read the ML.

ec/sr

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Re: Getting 7500 w/ G3 upgrade card to boot w/ quik

2005-01-19 Thread Brad Boyer
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 04:47:52PM -0600, Sean Jewett wrote:
 I am seeing what is documented here:
 
 http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/faq.html#cpu-upgrade
 
 which is the system will run fine with the 601 proc but not the G3 upgrade 
 (likewise, I have a 604 in another system running fine as well).  

The older versions of quik were incompatible with G3 upgrades, but
it got fixed eventually. What version are you using? If you are using
an old woody set, it may still have the old version.

Brad Boyer
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Re: Getting 7500 w/ G3 upgrade card to boot w/ quik

2005-01-18 Thread Brad Boyer
On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 04:47:52PM -0600, Sean Jewett wrote:
 I am seeing what is documented here:
 
 http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/faq.html#cpu-upgrade
 
 which is the system will run fine with the 601 proc but not the G3 upgrade 
 (likewise, I have a 604 in another system running fine as well).  

The older versions of quik were incompatible with G3 upgrades, but
it got fixed eventually. What version are you using? If you are using
an old woody set, it may still have the old version.

Brad Boyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Getting 7500 w/ G3 upgrade card to boot w/ quik

2005-01-18 Thread Sean Jewett

I have a 7500 with a G3 upgrade card (Sonnet Crescendo G3/PCI 250Mhz 512K
cache) that I'm having trouble getting to boot w/ quik.  I can run the
boot / root disks just fine, but after installing quik and rebooting the
system hangs.  I've spent the better part of the day going through various
troubleshooting tips, a fair bit of which came from the NetBSD stuff here:

http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/

Here is what I've managed to figure out.  If the Mac can get to the grey 
rom screen the card is useable, it'll boot the Debian boot installer just 
fine as it will also boot MacOS 8.5 as well.

I have reset the CUDA switch.

I have applied the patch to get open firmware to display on the chaos 
video controller rather than tty1, as documented here:

http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/SystemDisk-tutorial/of105patch.html

I have installed the Sonnet card drivers on disk w/ MacOS in the hopes it 
would reprogram the nvram.

I've tried re-running quik after each of these stages to no avail.  

I am seeing what is documented here:

http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/faq.html#cpu-upgrade

which is the system will run fine with the 601 proc but not the G3 upgrade 
(likewise, I have a 604 in another system running fine as well).  

Given that, what have I not tried or do I need to try in order to get this 
to work?  I feel like it's just a matter of tweaking the nvram but how / 
what needs to be tweaked I've not found great documentation for.

Thanks,

Sean...


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