Re: How to make a custom installer CD/DVD/BD/USB-stick?

2013-09-17 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Just seen this thread, apologies for delayed responses ]

On Fri, Jul 05, 2013 at 11:40:54PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:

On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Brian wrote:

Well wouldn't documentation for Jigdo template be in Jigdo package?

The jigdo template is a lot lower level than I was hoping for.  It's
kinda like the object code, where I'm looking for the high-level
language source code and a compiler to produce the object code from
it.

Correct.

It's theoretically possible to edit the jigdo template, and all the
binary parts it contains, just as it's theoretically possible to edit
the java byte-code for a subroutine that almost does what you want --
but it's much more convenient (and comprehensible) to edit the java
source code.  What I'm hoping for is that there's something like a
compiler that takes a human understandable specification, in the form
of list of packages and other configurable components of an installer
CD/DVD/BD/etc, and outputs a jigdo template (or such) that implements
that specification.

I'm hoping that's exactly what simple-cdd is.

simple-cdd is meant to do that kind of thing AFAIK, yes.
Alternatively, debian-cd is the core package that we use for creating
the main Debian images. It's very flexible and (sorry!) not
particularly well documented...

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Re: How to make a custom installer CD/DVD/BD/USB-stick?

2013-07-06 Thread Brian
Well maybe if you are lucky the package will allow you to edit an existing 
template. It should!


On Jul 5, 2013, at 11:40 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 
 Can somebody point me at some docs or packages I could use to create a 
 customized CD/DVD/BD image for installing Debian PowerPC?
 
 I'd like to create a 32GB (or larger?) USB memory stick that can be used 
 to do a complete installation of PowerPC Debian (Wheezy right now, but 
 into the future... who knows?) without access to the Internet at install 
 time. E.g. behind a *very* restrictive firewall or a very slow ISP 
 connection.
 
 I know that jigdo templates are provided for BD images that will do the 
 job, but only for AMD64, not for PowerPC, hence the need to roll my own.
 
 And besides, I think it might be fun to learn more about the process.
 
 Maybe my google foo is at a low ebb today:  I did my duty as a 
 question-asker -- searching the web for answers before I ask the list -- 
 but came up dry.  In any case, a pointer in the right direction would be 
 much appreciated!
 
 On Jul 4, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Brian wrote:
 
 How about editing the amd64 template?
 
 That might work if I knew where the template was, and how to use it.
 
 I've installed simple-cdd and started to read the documentation.  Is the 
 configuration file mentioned there the same as the template you are talking 
 about?
 
 Or is there a different package that I should be looking at...
 
 
 On Jul 5, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Brian wrote:
 
 Well wouldn't documentation for Jigdo template be in Jigdo package?
 
 The jigdo template is a lot lower level than I was hoping for.  It's kinda 
 like the object code, where I'm looking for the high-level language source 
 code and a compiler to produce the object code from it.
 
 It's theoretically possible to edit the jigdo template, and all the binary 
 parts it contains, just as it's theoretically possible to edit the java 
 byte-code for a subroutine that almost does what you want -- but it's much 
 more convenient (and comprehensible) to edit the java source code.  What I'm 
 hoping for is that there's something like a compiler that takes a human 
 understandable specification, in the form of list of packages and other 
 configurable components of an installer CD/DVD/BD/etc, and outputs a jigdo 
 template (or such) that implements that specification.
 
 I'm hoping that's exactly what simple-cdd is.
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Rick
 
 
 
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Re: How to make a custom installer CD/DVD/BD/USB-stick?

2013-07-05 Thread Brian
Well wouldn't documentation for Jigdo template be in Jigdo package?



On Jul 4, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:

 On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 
 Can somebody point me at some docs or packages I could use to create a 
 customized CD/DVD/BD image for installing Debian PowerPC?
 
 I'd like to create a 32GB (or larger?) USB memory stick that can be used to 
 do a complete installation of PowerPC Debian (Wheezy right now, but into 
 the future... who knows?) without access to the Internet at install time. 
 E.g. behind a *very* restrictive firewall or a very slow ISP connection.
 
 I know that jigdo templates are provided for BD images that will do the 
 job, but only for AMD64, not for PowerPC, hence the need to roll my own.
 
 And besides, I think it might be fun to learn more about the process.
 
 Maybe my google foo is at a low ebb today:  I did my duty as a 
 question-asker -- searching the web for answers before I ask the list -- 
 but came up dry.  In any case, a pointer in the right direction would be 
 much appreciated!
 
 On Jul 4, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Brian wrote:
 
 How about editing the amd64 template?
 
 That might work if I knew where the template was, and how to use it.
 
 I've installed simple-cdd and started to read the documentation.  Is the 
 configuration file mentioned there the same as the template you are talking 
 about?
 
 Or is there a different package that I should be looking at...
 
 Thanks!
 
 Rick


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Re: How to make a custom installer CD/DVD/BD/USB-stick?

2013-07-04 Thread Brian
How about editing the amd64 template? 

On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:

 
 Can somebody point me at some docs or packages I could use to create a 
 customized CD/DVD/BD image for installing Debian PowerPC?
 
 I'd like to create a 32GB (or larger?) USB memory stick that can be used to 
 do a complete installation of PowerPC Debian (Wheezy right now, but into the 
 future... who knows?) without access to the Internet at install time. E.g. 
 behind a *very* restrictive firewall or a very slow ISP connection.
 
 I know that jigdo templates are provided for BD images that will do the job, 
 but only for AMD64, not for PowerPC, hence the need to roll my own.
 
 And besides, I think it might be fun to learn more about the process.
 
 Maybe my google foo is at a low ebb today:  I did my duty as a question-asker 
 -- searching the web for answers before I ask the list -- but came up dry.  
 In any case, a pointer in the right direction would be much appreciated!
 
 Thanks in advance!
 
 Rick
 
 
 
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Re: How to make a custom installer CD/DVD/BD/USB-stick?

2013-07-04 Thread Rick Thomas

On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote:



Can somebody point me at some docs or packages I could use to  
create a customized CD/DVD/BD image for installing Debian PowerPC?


I'd like to create a 32GB (or larger?) USB memory stick that can be  
used to do a complete installation of PowerPC Debian (Wheezy right  
now, but into the future... who knows?) without access to the  
Internet at install time. E.g. behind a *very* restrictive firewall  
or a very slow ISP connection.


I know that jigdo templates are provided for BD images that will do  
the job, but only for AMD64, not for PowerPC, hence the need to  
roll my own.


And besides, I think it might be fun to learn more about the process.

Maybe my google foo is at a low ebb today:  I did my duty as a  
question-asker -- searching the web for answers before I ask the  
list -- but came up dry.  In any case, a pointer in the right  
direction would be much appreciated!


On Jul 4, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Brian wrote:


How about editing the amd64 template?


That might work if I knew where the template was, and how to use it.

I've installed simple-cdd and started to read the documentation.  Is  
the configuration file mentioned there the same as the template you  
are talking about?


Or is there a different package that I should be looking at...

Thanks!

Rick


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How to make a custom installer CD/DVD/BD/USB-stick?

2013-07-03 Thread Rick Thomas


Can somebody point me at some docs or packages I could use to create a  
customized CD/DVD/BD image for installing Debian PowerPC?


I'd like to create a 32GB (or larger?) USB memory stick that can be  
used to do a complete installation of PowerPC Debian (Wheezy right  
now, but into the future... who knows?) without access to the Internet  
at install time. E.g. behind a *very* restrictive firewall or a very  
slow ISP connection.


I know that jigdo templates are provided for BD images that will do  
the job, but only for AMD64, not for PowerPC, hence the need to roll  
my own.


And besides, I think it might be fun to learn more about the process.

Maybe my google foo is at a low ebb today:  I did my duty as a  
question-asker -- searching the web for answers before I ask the list  
-- but came up dry.  In any case, a pointer in the right direction  
would be much appreciated!


Thanks in advance!

Rick



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