Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4 (solved)
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:18 PM, brian m. carlson sand...@crustytoothpaste.net wrote: On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:59:17AM -0300, Gunther Furtado wrote: Have you thought about installing from an USB stick? is it possible for the kind of hardware you are dealing with? I've installed with a USB stick before for other G4 Apple machines, so it's very likely possible with the Mac Mini. Just to close this thread. I did get my macminig4 to boot using a dvd (never got cd or usb to boot). I summarized the story at: http://malatsblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/debian-on-macminig4.html Just for fun, I did found someone else having issue with booting from cd and usb (he used hard drive solution): http://www.macfreek.nl/mindmaster/Debian_on_PowerBookG4 Thanks everyone for suggestions, -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimiare6on8qaq=jdyu=afyeoah7z=g0rjygb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Well, at least we can be pretty sure it's a G4 Mac Mini (-; Also, we learn that (at least Apple thinks) that its DVD drive is capable of reading (and writing) CD-RW and DVD-RW media. I'll admit, I'm stumped. I don't have any more suggestions... Sorry! Rick On Jul 27, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Hardware Overview: Machine Name: Mac mini Machine Model: PowerMac10,1 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.2) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 1.42 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB Memory: 512 MB Bus Speed: 167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.8.9f4 Serial Number: YM5306NSTYX And: ATA: ATA Bus: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-845C: Model: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-845C Revision: DPP9 Serial Number: Detachable Drive: No Protocol: ATAPI Unit Number: 1 Socket Type: Internal Disc Burning: MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-845C: Firmware Revision: DPP9 Interconnect: ATAPI Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported) Cache: 2048 KB Reads DVD: Yes CD-Write: -R, -RW DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO Media: No Thanks again ! -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50ba7501-f754-4dcc-a3d9-affefd49b...@pobox.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Jul 27, 2010, at 5:24 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: I forgot to mention that using the 'C' holding solution with this cd-rom I can now see a icon of the finder within a blue folder, then move to a question mark in a blue folder icon, then again the finder icon... After a couple of second, it still boots to hard-drive Does Mac have a notion of boot order ? (I am a PC user, I never touched a mac before... well barely) The boot order is defined by parameters in Open Firmware, and conditioned by things like holding down the C key. What that behavior looks like to me is a marginal CD/DVD drive. Sometimes it can read the CD, sometimes not. You might think about having it replaced, if that's a possibility. DVD-R/W drives are not expensive these days. You mentioned getting some more CD-R blanks. Try a different brand from the one you originally used. Sometimes that helps... Just grasping at straws... Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/36b55164-adc9-4634-9289-60fb9d97e...@pobox.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Jul 27, 2010, at 10:51 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: You might think about having it replaced, if that's a possibility. DVD-R/W drives are not expensive these days. I found that the optical drive in a Titanium PowerBook is the same model used in the G4 mini. But I've also had good luck with net installs. I run tftpd from OS X on my Intel mini, let my G4 mini get an address from DHCP (auto taken care of when you use 'boot enet'), then specify the tftp server in my boot params. My open firmware command looks something like: boot enet:192.168.111.34,yaboot Q.v. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/ch05s01.html.en -Gary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/13949ea2-d963-4d47-b73e-726848ca2...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Hi, Hi there, I am trying to install Debian 5.0.5 on a used MacMini G4. I have followed instructions from: Have you thought about installing from an USB stick? is it possible for the kind of hardware you are dealing with? [...] cheers -- ...agora, só nos sobrou o futuro..., visto em www.manuchao.net Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100728085917.3c557...@papel.gfcm.net
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:59:17AM -0300, Gunther Furtado wrote: Have you thought about installing from an USB stick? is it possible for the kind of hardware you are dealing with? I've installed with a USB stick before for other G4 Apple machines, so it's very likely possible with the Mac Mini. -- brian m. carlson / brian with sandals: Houston, Texas, US +1 832 623 2791 | http://www.crustytoothpaste.net/~bmc | My opinion only OpenPGP: RSA v4 4096b: 88AC E9B2 9196 305B A994 7552 F1BA 225C 0223 B187 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: A third possibilty, though remote, is that the iso was improperly built. I'll verify that myself and get back to you. I downloaded and burned the iso. I verified the MD5 and compared the burned CD with the ISO. All went well. Then I booted it on my own Mac mini G4. It booted fine (I used the C hold-down method) and started the installer. I didn't run any further, because I didn't want to mess up my MacOS-X machine, but it at least booted. So there's no problem with the iso file itself. Thanks ! Here is what I did on my amd64 box: $ wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ md5sum debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso 86268f3a463460828ec12831d6520df7 debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ echo $? 0 I would be tempted to say my cdrom was burned ok. To get into more details see (*). In summary: - DVD 1 Tiger 10.4 - I can boot using C - I can boot using Option - I can boot using Option+Command+o+f - Debian 5.0.5 CD-RW - I can NOT boot using C - I can NOT boot using Option - I can NOT boot using Option+Command+o+f I also tried burning the image on two CD-R, but cmp would failed everytime with: $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso cmp: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error However both isovfy and isoinfo were happy with the CD-R Thanks for any further advices, -- Mathieu Ps: (*) $ isoinfo -d -i=/dev/cdrom CD-ROM is in ISO 9660 format System id: LINUX Volume id: Debian 5.0.5 ppc Bin-1 Volume set id: Publisher id: Data preparer id: Application id: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM Copyright File id: Abstract File id: Bibliographic File id: Volume set size is: 1 Volume set sequence number is: 1 Logical block size is: 2048 Volume size is: 102188 NO Joliet present Rock Ridge signatures version 1 found k3b reveals this info about the cdrom (imation cd-rw 80min): /dev/sr0: ATIP capacity: 79:57:74 (K3bDevice::Device) READ CAPACITY: 22:42:37 other capacity: 79:57:74 DiskInfo: Mediatype: CD-RW Current Profile: CD-RW Disk state: complete Empty: 0 Rewritable: 1 Appendable: 0 Sessions:1 Tracks: 1 Layers: 1 Capacity:79:57:74 (LBA 359849) (736970752 Bytes) Remaining size: 00:00:00 (LBA 0) (0 Bytes) Used Size: 22:42:38 (LBA 102188) (209281024 Bytes) Session | ADR | CONTROL| TNO | POINT | Min | Sec | Frame | Zero | PMIN | PSEC | PFRAME | 1 | 1 | 4 | 0 | a0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 0 | a1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 0 | a2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 22 | 44 | 38 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 0 | b0 |255 |255 |255 | 3 | 79 | 59 | 74 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 0 | c0 | 44 | 0 |174 | 0 | 97 | 34 | 24 | 1 | 5 | 4 | 0 | c1 |204 |148 | 50 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | (K3bDevice::Device) found invalid bcd values. No bcd toc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinxfsexhoako9iofkr7rf2ioxxj7s7niy91b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Have you tried burning to a CD-R instead of a CD-RW? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/fb11dee8-d6b8-4892-8602-d397e7c89...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Gary Driggs gdri...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried burning to a CD-R instead of a CD-RW? Yes. But as I said in my previous email, I cannot use the 'cmp' method to prove the burning went ok. isodump/isovfy were happy with those media, but still I cannot boot from them. Thanks, -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=zhx-ztkmxtzsen_affstaxxynjxsos20wy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
hi, really a strange situations. Try to boot with a different distro's boot iso (like Gentoo or Crux). So you can understand if it's a problem related to the iso or the cdrom driver. regards, -- Power Mac G4 AGP 450MHz - CRUX PPC (32bit)/DebianPPC Power Mac G5 dual 1.8 PCI-X - CRUX PPC (64bit)/Tiger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimkm1mzpqzc5lnt+qjprh14kxckmjpjnzfxj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Mathieu Malaterre wrote: But as I said in my previous email, I cannot use the 'cmp' method to prove the burning went ok. isodump/isovfy were happy with those media, but still I cannot boot from them. Have you tried a different colored disc? Also, there's a chance that your Mac may not be able to boot from CD-RW media at all. -Gary -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c6fd2cc4-5568-4bc3-befe-e93a592df...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Jul 27, 2010, at 4:48 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: A third possibilty, though remote, is that the iso was improperly built. I'll verify that myself and get back to you. I downloaded and burned the iso. I verified the MD5 and compared the burned CD with the ISO. All went well. Then I booted it on my own Mac mini G4. It booted fine (I used the C hold-down method) and started the installer. I didn't run any further, because I didn't want to mess up my MacOS-X machine, but it at least booted. So there's no problem with the iso file itself. Thanks ! Here is what I did on my amd64 box: $ wget http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ md5sum debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso 86268f3a463460828ec12831d6520df7 debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ echo $? 0 I would be tempted to say my cdrom was burned ok. To get into more details see (*). In summary: - DVD 1 Tiger 10.4 - I can boot using C - I can boot using Option - I can boot using Option+Command+o+f - Debian 5.0.5 CD-RW - I can NOT boot using C - I can NOT boot using Option - I can NOT boot using Option+Command+o+f I also tried burning the image on two CD-R, but cmp would failed everytime with: $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso cmp: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error However both isovfy and isoinfo were happy with the CD-R Thanks for any further advices, -- Mathieu Ps: (*) $ isoinfo -d -i=/dev/cdrom CD-ROM is in ISO 9660 format System id: LINUX Volume id: Debian 5.0.5 ppc Bin-1 ... stuff that all looks reasonable ... I'm stumped. Did you try a different Debian install method? E.g. the businesscard iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Does that at least boot on your Mac mini G4? Have you tried booting the problematical CD on a different PowerPC Mac? Does it at least boot there? And finally (I know this sounds silly, but we may be at the point where silly is all that's left...) Are you sure the Mac mini is a G4? Nowadays, Apple makes an intel- based box that they call the Mac mini. From the outside, it looks exactly like the old G4-based Mac minis. They don't seem to care about the potential confusion. Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c0cc0fa6-e566-4d11-b737-139590172...@pobox.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
I tired using a CD-R (not a CD-RW), with the following: $ md5sum debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso 86268f3a463460828ec12831d6520df7 debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom CD-ROM is in ISO 9660 format System id: LINUX Volume id: Debian 5.0.5 ppc Bin-1 Volume set id: Publisher id: Data preparer id: Application id: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM Copyright File id: Abstract File id: Bibliographic File id: Volume set size is: 1 Volume set sequence number is: 1 Logical block size is: 2048 Volume size is: 102188 NO Joliet present Rock Ridge signatures version 1 found $ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=102188 conv=notrunc,noerror | md5sum 102188+0 records in 102188+0 records out 209281024 bytes (209 MB) copied, 56.3156 s, 3.7 MB/s 86268f3a463460828ec12831d6520df7 - I followed stricly the instructions from: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#record-unix $ wodim -eject -v speed=2 -data -pad ./debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso More info at: http://malatsblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/preparing-bootable-debian-installer-cd.html On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: Did you try a different Debian install method? E.g. the businesscard iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/sid_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ Will do that next. I need to buy some more CD-R :) Does that at least boot on your Mac mini G4? Have you tried booting the problematical CD on a different PowerPC Mac? Does it at least boot there? No other PowerPC around ... And finally (I know this sounds silly, but we may be at the point where silly is all that's left...) Are you sure the Mac mini is a G4? Nowadays, Apple makes an intel-based box that they call the Mac mini. From the outside, it looks exactly like the old G4-based Mac minis. They don't seem to care about the potential confusion. That would have been funny :) Here is the output of system_profiler from the running MacOSX/Tiger session (truncated to avoid spreading personal info): Hardware: Hardware Overview: Machine Name: Mac mini Machine Model: PowerMac10,1 CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.2) Number Of CPUs: 1 CPU Speed: 1.42 GHz L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB Memory: 512 MB Bus Speed: 167 MHz Boot ROM Version: 4.8.9f4 Serial Number: YM5306NSTYX And: Software: System Software Overview: System Version: Mac OS X 10.4 (8A451) Kernel Version: Darwin 8.0.0 Boot Volume: Mac mini de Yann Computer Name: mathieu malaterre’s Mac mini User Name: mathieu malaterre (mathieu) ATA: ATA Bus: ST9808210A: Capacity: 74.53 GB Model: ST9808210A Revision: 3.04 Serial Number: 3LF1QH95 Removable Media: No Detachable Drive: No BSD Name: disk0 Protocol: ATA Unit Number: 0 Socket Type: Internal OS9 Drivers: No S.M.A.R.T. status: Verified Volumes: Mac mini de Yann: Capacity: 74.41 GB Available: 65.98 GB Writable: Yes File System: UFS BSD Name: disk0s4 Mount Point: / Volumes: disk0s4: Capacity: 74.41 GB Available: 65.98 GB Writable: Yes File System: UFS MATSHITADVD-R UJ-845C: Model: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-845C Revision: DPP9 Serial Number: Detachable Drive: No Protocol: ATAPI Unit Number: 1 Socket Type: Internal Disc Burning: MATSHITA DVD-R UJ-845C: Firmware Revision: DPP9 Interconnect: ATAPI Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported) Cache: 2048 KB Reads DVD: Yes CD-Write: -R, -RW DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, DVD-DAO Media: No Thanks again ! -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikm7=5_syjafrjf0tnabtqsbrodxqpr+_e...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:20 PM, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: I tired using a CD-R (not a CD-RW), with the following: $ md5sum debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso 86268f3a463460828ec12831d6520df7 debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso I forgot to mention that using the 'C' holding solution with this cd-rom I can now see a icon of the finder within a blue folder, then move to a question mark in a blue folder icon, then again the finder icon... After a couple of second, it still boots to hard-drive Does Mac have a notion of boot order ? (I am a PC user, I never touched a mac before... well barely) Thanks ! -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=-8a1kuwtduw6-th+jwz84vgmgjv4q_5097...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Hi there.
I have not yet delved into this thread (packing things to go to the US),
but I could not resist pointing out one thing:
On Jul 27 2010, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
I would be tempted to say my cdrom was burned ok. To get into more
details see (*).
There's this very cool program called dvdisaster, which, among other
things serves quite well the purpose of verifying if a given CD/DVD has
errors.
In the particular case of CDs, it can also give you a very nice idea of
if the medium is going to die or not, showing you how many C2-errors it
has along all the surface etc: http://dvdisaster.net/en/images/good-cd.png
It is packaged for Debian http://packages.debian.org/sid/dvdisaster and
maintained by yours truly. :-)
Regards,
--
Rogério Brito : rbr...@{ime.usp.br,gmail.com} : GPG key 1024D/7C2CAEB8
http://rb.doesntexist.org : Packages for LaTeX : algorithms.berlios.de
DebianQA: http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=rbrito%40ime.usp.br
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100728033006.gc4...@ime.usp.br
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Jul 27, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Have you tried booting the problematical CD on a different PowerPC Mac? Does it at least boot there? No other PowerPC around ... If you are willing to let us know the city or area you live in, perhaps there is someone on the list who lives nearby and has appropriate hardware you can test it on? Just a thought... Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/23b68050-0a11-4f2e-95eb-dda91d5ff...@pobox.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
--- On Mon, 7/26/10, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: From: Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com Subject: Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4 To: Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com Cc: PowerPC List Debian debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 4:09 AM On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: A third possibilty, though remote, is that the iso was improperly built. I'll verify that myself and get back to you. I downloaded and burned the iso. I verified the MD5 and compared the burned CD with the ISO. All went well. Then I booted it on my own Mac mini G4. It booted fine (I used the C hold-down method) and started the installer. I didn't run any further, because I didn't want to mess up my MacOS-X machine, but it at least booted. So there's no problem with the iso file itself. Enjoy! Rick --To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dfe2a6b7-2716-4585-89a5-227dad5bb...@pobox.com I've seen this problem before myself and have never resolved it. It's also been reported elsewhere without resolution. I watch this thread anxiously awaiting a fix. All my best - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twittername: chrisreich
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Chris Reich wrote: I've seen this problem before myself and have never resolved it. It's also been reported elsewhere without resolution. I watch this thread anxiously awaiting a fix. All my best - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twittername: chrisreich Chris, Just incase you missed the point of what I wrote (possible, I'm not always a clear as I could be): I have verified that there is nothing wrong with the iso image on the web site. So the only things that are left are: 1) Mathieu encountered some kind of un-detected error in downloading the iso or burning the CD. 2) There's something wrong in the hardware of Mathieu's mac mini G4. Case (1): He should re-download, verify the checksum, re-burn, verify the burn, and try again to see if it boots. Case (2): He should try the CD on a different PowerPC Mac. See if it boots there. Also try a different bootable media, such as a MacOS-X DVD. Hope this helps, Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e47da181-fe39-4b49-8d84-69f590eef...@pobox.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
--- On Mon, 7/26/10, Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com wrote: From: Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com Subject: Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4 To: PowerPC List Debian debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Cc: Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com, Chris Reich chrisre...@rocketmail.com Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 4:33 PM On Jul 26, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Chris Reich wrote: I've seen this problem before myself and have never resolved it. It's also been reported elsewhere without resolution. I watch this thread anxiously awaiting a fix. All my best - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twittername: chrisreich Chris, Just incase you missed the point of what I wrote (possible, I'm not always a clear as I could be): I have verified that there is nothing wrong with the iso image on the web site. So the only things that are left are: 1) Mathieu encountered some kind of un-detected error in downloading the iso or burning the CD. 2) There's something wrong in the hardware of Mathieu's mac mini G4. Case (1): He should re-download, verify the checksum, re-burn, verify the burn, and try again to see if it boots. Case (2): He should try the CD on a different PowerPC Mac. See if it boots there. Also try a different bootable media, such as a MacOS-X DVD. Hope this helps, Rick Rick, Yes I understood perfectly well what you were saying, and certainly that's the first step. But I've been down that road and had no trouble here. Of course that means nothing in Mathieu's case. He must prove to himself that the disks are okay before going on. You are right. All my best, Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twitterid: chrisreich
Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Hi there, I am trying to install Debian 5.0.5 on a used MacMini G4. I have followed instructions from: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ However I could not get the MacMini to boot onto the debian installer. I tried the: - 'C' holding approach (does not work at all) - 'Options' holding approach (Only the hard drive icon shows up) - 'Option'+'Command'+'o+'f' opens a terminal: Apple PowerMac10, 1 4.8.9f4 BootROM build on 03/23/05 at 14:22:23 ... 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file 0 eject cd: ok 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file I tried the 'eject' approach as mentioned in the bugzilla bug number 162046... I have one cdrom burned from my debian/amd64 laptop and one cdrom burned from the MacMini, both fails as shown above. Both cdrom opens fine on my debian/amd64 laptop. References: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ http://mac.linux.be/content/booting-open-firmware https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=162046 http://www.powerlinux.com/mini/ http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso I would really appreciate *any* help ! Thanks in advance, -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinnstyumjhm8chjt3_7smidonask0wps39qe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Mathieu, You say that both the CDs you are trying open fine on your amd64 laptop. It sounds like you may be trying to use an AMD/Intel architecture installation disk in a Power PC architecture computer. That won't work. You'll need to download and burn the iso file of the Power PC architecture of Debian 5. Here is the url to the page from which you can download the DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-dvd/ and here is the url from which you can download the CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/ You should be able to use the DVD on your Mac Mini. I hope this helps you. Debian on old Macs rocks. All my best - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twittername: chrisreich --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com Subject: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4 To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 4:46 PM Hi there, I am trying to install Debian 5.0.5 on a used MacMini G4. I have followed instructions from: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ However I could not get the MacMini to boot onto the debian installer. I tried the: - 'C' holding approach (does not work at all) - 'Options' holding approach (Only the hard drive icon shows up) - 'Option'+'Command'+'o+'f' opens a terminal: Apple PowerMac10, 1 4.8.9f4 BootROM build on 03/23/05 at 14:22:23 ... 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file 0 eject cd: ok 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file I tried the 'eject' approach as mentioned in the bugzilla bug number 162046... I have one cdrom burned from my debian/amd64 laptop and one cdrom burned from the MacMini, both fails as shown above. Both cdrom opens fine on my debian/amd64 laptop. References: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ http://mac.linux.be/content/booting-open-firmware https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=162046 http://www.powerlinux.com/mini/ http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso I would really appreciate *any* help ! Thanks in advance, -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinnstyumjhm8chjt3_7smidonask0wps39qe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Hi Chris, As mentioned in my previous email I used: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso The cdrom opens fine on my laptop, dmesg reveals: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A I tried booting from them, but it simply fails. I am guessing they contains ppc code and thus fails on my amd64 laptop. HTH On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Chris Reich chrisre...@rocketmail.comwrote: Mathieu, You say that both the CDs you are trying open fine on your amd64 laptop. It sounds like you may be trying to use an AMD/Intel architecture installation disk in a Power PC architecture computer. That won't work. You'll need to download and burn the iso file of the Power PC architecture of Debian 5. Here is the url to the page from which you can download the DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-dvd/ and here is the url from which you can download the CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/ You should be able to use the DVD on your Mac Mini. I hope this helps you. Debian on old Macs rocks. All my best - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twittername: chrisreich --- On *Sun, 7/25/10, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com*wrote: From: Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com Subject: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4 To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 4:46 PM Hi there, I am trying to install Debian 5.0.5 on a used MacMini G4. I have followed instructions from: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ However I could not get the MacMini to boot onto the debian installer. I tried the: - 'C' holding approach (does not work at all) - 'Options' holding approach (Only the hard drive icon shows up) - 'Option'+'Command'+'o+'f' opens a terminal: Apple PowerMac10, 1 4.8.9f4 BootROM build on 03/23/05 at 14:22:23 ... 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file 0 eject cd: ok 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file I tried the 'eject' approach as mentioned in the bugzilla bug number 162046... I have one cdrom burned from my debian/amd64 laptop and one cdrom burned from the MacMini, both fails as shown above. Both cdrom opens fine on my debian/amd64 laptop. References: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ http://mac.linux.be/content/booting-open-firmware https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=162046 http://www.powerlinux.com/mini/ http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso I would really appreciate *any* help ! Thanks in advance, -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinnstyumjhm8chjt3_7smidonask0wps39qe...@mail.gmail.com -- Mathieu
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
BTW I actually meant to write: boot cd:,\\:tbxi This command does not work on my debian installation cd, but does work on the official Tiger Mac install cd... thanks ! On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, As mentioned in my previous email I used: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso The cdrom opens fine on my laptop, dmesg reveals: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A I tried booting from them, but it simply fails. I am guessing they contains ppc code and thus fails on my amd64 laptop. HTH On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Chris Reich chrisre...@rocketmail.com wrote: Mathieu, You say that both the CDs you are trying open fine on your amd64 laptop. It sounds like you may be trying to use an AMD/Intel architecture installation disk in a Power PC architecture computer. That won't work. You'll need to download and burn the iso file of the Power PC architecture of Debian 5. Here is the url to the page from which you can download the DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-dvd/ and here is the url from which you can download the CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/ You should be able to use the DVD on your Mac Mini. I hope this helps you. Debian on old Macs rocks. All my best - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twittername: chrisreich --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com Subject: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4 To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 4:46 PM Hi there, I am trying to install Debian 5.0.5 on a used MacMini G4. I have followed instructions from: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ However I could not get the MacMini to boot onto the debian installer. I tried the: - 'C' holding approach (does not work at all) - 'Options' holding approach (Only the hard drive icon shows up) - 'Option'+'Command'+'o+'f' opens a terminal: Apple PowerMac10, 1 4.8.9f4 BootROM build on 03/23/05 at 14:22:23 ... 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file 0 eject cd: ok 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file I tried the 'eject' approach as mentioned in the bugzilla bug number 162046... I have one cdrom burned from my debian/amd64 laptop and one cdrom burned from the MacMini, both fails as shown above. Both cdrom opens fine on my debian/amd64 laptop. References: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ http://mac.linux.be/content/booting-open-firmware https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=162046 http://www.powerlinux.com/mini/ http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso I would really appreciate *any* help ! Thanks in advance, -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinnstyumjhm8chjt3_7smidonask0wps39qe...@mail.gmail.com -- Mathieu -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=onff_tq_zmg4c82kguj0b6w1a_=2q307zs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
Hi! The convention on Debian mailing lists is to post new information at the bottom. (It would not be my personal choice, but... When in Rome, do as the Romans...) I've re-arranged the parts of this as if that convention had been followed, then added my own comments at the end. Rick --- On Sun, 7/25/10, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com Subject: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4 To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, July 25, 2010, 4:46 PM Hi there, I am trying to install Debian 5.0.5 on a used MacMini G4. I have followed instructions from: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ However I could not get the MacMini to boot onto the debian installer. I tried the: - 'C' holding approach (does not work at all) - 'Options' holding approach (Only the hard drive icon shows up) - 'Option'+'Command'+'o+'f' opens a terminal: Apple PowerMac10, 1 4.8.9f4 BootROM build on 03/23/05 at 14:22:23 ... 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file 0 eject cd: ok 0 boot cd:,\\tbxi DISK-LABEL: read block0 failed ATAPI-DISK: open of DISK-LABEL failed can't open: cd:,\\tbxi Can't open device or file I tried the 'eject' approach as mentioned in the bugzilla bug number 162046... I have one cdrom burned from my debian/amd64 laptop and one cdrom burned from the MacMini, both fails as shown above. Both cdrom opens fine on my debian/amd64 laptop. References: http://sowerbutts.com/linux-mac-mini/ http://mac.linux.be/content/booting-open-firmware https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=162046 http://www.powerlinux.com/mini/ http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso I would really appreciate *any* help ! Thanks in advance, -- Mathieu On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Chris Reich chrisre...@rocketmail.com wrote: Mathieu, You say that both the CDs you are trying open fine on your amd64 laptop. It sounds like you may be trying to use an AMD/Intel architecture installation disk in a Power PC architecture computer. That won't work. You'll need to download and burn the iso file of the Power PC architecture of Debian 5. Here is the url to the page from which you can download the DVD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-dvd/ and here is the url from which you can download the CD: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/ You should be able to use the DVD on your Mac Mini. I hope this helps you. Debian on old Macs rocks. All my best - Chris Reich; Rochester, New York twittername: chrisreich On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, As mentioned in my previous email I used: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.5/powerpc/iso-cd/debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso The cdrom opens fine on my laptop, dmesg reveals: ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A I tried booting from them, but it simply fails. I am guessing they contains ppc code and thus fails on my amd64 laptop. HTH On Jul 25, 2010, at 2:11 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: BTW I actually meant to write: boot cd:,\\:tbxi This command does not work on my debian installation cd, but does work on the official Tiger Mac install cd... thanks ! Mathieu, If you tried both the C holding approach and the Option holding approach, and neither of them recognized that the CD is a bootable PowerPC Mac CD, then there must be something wrong with the CD. Either the iso is malformed, or the burn from the iso did not work properly. To check the first possibility, did you verify the download by comparing the checksum of the iso file against either the MD5SUMS or the SHA1SUMS file in the same directory as you downloaded the iso from? To check the second possibility, you can compare the burned CD with the iso file using, for example, something like: cmp /dev/cdrom xx.iso A third possibilty, though remote, is that the iso was improperly built. I'll verify that myself and get back to you. Have you tried booting the Mac mini G4 from another Debian CD? try, for example, the businesscard CD at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ If that at least boots (it may fail to install a working Debian PowerPC for other reasons, but it should at least boot) then you know your CD drive is OK. If it fails, you may have a hardware problem... Hope this helps! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bfdea4-5a04-4c81-be1c-be3f950c1...@pobox.com
Re: Installing Debian Lenny on MacMini G4
On Jul 25, 2010, at 11:23 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: A third possibilty, though remote, is that the iso was improperly built. I'll verify that myself and get back to you. I downloaded and burned the iso. I verified the MD5 and compared the burned CD with the ISO. All went well. Then I booted it on my own Mac mini G4. It booted fine (I used the C hold-down method) and started the installer. I didn't run any further, because I didn't want to mess up my MacOS-X machine, but it at least booted. So there's no problem with the iso file itself. Enjoy! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-powerpc-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dfe2a6b7-2716-4585-89a5-227dad5bb...@pobox.com
