Re: Powermac G5 - flash
Very necessary on Powerbook G4 - FanControl! http://jurriaandevos.nl/control-ibook-g4-temperature-with-g4fancontrol/ Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:34 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz : > This here is for Facebook > > > https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/23619-flash-version-16-for-powerpc/ > > > > > > > Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:33 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz : > >> >> Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola >> : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. >>> >>> I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest >>> 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux >>> (TenFourFox) and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still >>> playback youtube with flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As I >>> was able on the PowerMac when flash PPC still existed. >>> HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 4-5x >>> CPU power. >>> >>> Riccardo >>> >> >> >> Hello Riccardo, >> >> on Powermac G4 you should install Osx Leopard. Then you can use Safari >> Extensions. >> >> Just install Quicktime 7.7.1 and use ClicktoPlugin Safari extension. Go to >> the settings . Click playback with "Quicktime" instead of "HTML5" and the >> wonder starts. Unfortunately it does not work with tiger. >> It is better to use Webkit for Leopard than Safari, actually. >> >> Other solution, if you want to rely on TenFourFox, then install "QTE" - >> Quicktime Enabler for TenFourFox, it is an add-on that let's you open via >> RightClick YouTube and other Files through Quicktime. It is not so fast than >> ClickToPlugin and not so charming, but hey, it works, and TenFourFox should >> be quite secure. >> >> With these you should be able to watch videos propably even better than >> under Linux on your Powerbook G4 or Powermac G4 >> >> >> Other very great solution is "YouView" by MrGeckoMedia. Here you probably >> need also Perian installed. If you use OsX Leopard you could also install >> the Safari Extension for it to use instead of. Thats a cool program! >> >> >> Hope this helps - Another reason to still love your Powerbook G4! >> >> >> Rich >> > >
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
This here is for Facebook https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/23619-flash-version-16-for-powerpc/ Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:33 PM schrieb Richard Kuenz : > > Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola > : > >> Hi, >> >> On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: >>> >>> HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. >> >> I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest >> 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux (TenFourFox) >> and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still playback youtube >> with flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As I was able on the >> PowerMac when flash PPC still existed. >> HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 4-5x >> CPU power. >> >> Riccardo >> > > > Hello Riccardo, > > on Powermac G4 you should install Osx Leopard. Then you can use Safari > Extensions. > > Just install Quicktime 7.7.1 and use ClicktoPlugin Safari extension. Go to > the settings . Click playback with "Quicktime" instead of "HTML5" and the > wonder starts. Unfortunately it does not work with tiger. > It is better to use Webkit for Leopard than Safari, actually. > > Other solution, if you want to rely on TenFourFox, then install "QTE" - > Quicktime Enabler for TenFourFox, it is an add-on that let's you open via > RightClick YouTube and other Files through Quicktime. It is not so fast than > ClickToPlugin and not so charming, but hey, it works, and TenFourFox should > be quite secure. > > With these you should be able to watch videos propably even better than under > Linux on your Powerbook G4 or Powermac G4 > > > Other very great solution is "YouView" by MrGeckoMedia. Here you probably > need also Perian installed. If you use OsX Leopard you could also install the > Safari Extension for it to use instead of. Thats a cool program! > > > Hope this helps - Another reason to still love your Powerbook G4! > > > Rich >
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
Am Feb 13, 2016 um 1:19 PM schrieb Riccardo Mottola : > Hi, > > On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: >> >> HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. > > I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest > 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux (TenFourFox) > and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still playback youtube with > flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As I was able on the PowerMac > when flash PPC still existed. > HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 4-5x CPU > power. > > Riccardo > Hello Riccardo, on Powermac G4 you should install Osx Leopard. Then you can use Safari Extensions. Just install Quicktime 7.7.1 and use ClicktoPlugin Safari extension. Go to the settings . Click playback with "Quicktime" instead of "HTML5" and the wonder starts. Unfortunately it does not work with tiger. It is better to use Webkit for Leopard than Safari, actually. Other solution, if you want to rely on TenFourFox, then install "QTE" - Quicktime Enabler for TenFourFox, it is an add-on that let's you open via RightClick YouTube and other Files through Quicktime. It is not so fast than ClickToPlugin and not so charming, but hey, it works, and TenFourFox should be quite secure. With these you should be able to watch videos propably even better than under Linux on your Powerbook G4 or Powermac G4 Other very great solution is "YouView" by MrGeckoMedia. Here you probably need also Perian installed. If you use OsX Leopard you could also install the Safari Extension for it to use instead of. Thats a cool program! Hope this helps - Another reason to still love your Powerbook G4! Rich
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
Hi, On 02/12/16 12:52, Richard Kuenz wrote: HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. I found out that too HTML5 playback is almost unusable even on the fastest 1.6GHz G4 under mac where Graphics is already better than linux (TenFourFox) and also on a dual-core Intel Core, while you can still playback youtube with flash on WindowsXP with an old 1.6Ghz Centrino. As I was able on the PowerMac when flash PPC still existed. HTML5 players gives us finally Flash freedom, but apparently consume 4-5x CPU power. Riccardo
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
On 12/02/16 16:29, Chris Wareham wrote:
On 12 February 2016 at 12:15 Clive Menzies wrote:
Hi Chris
I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but
couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to
be loads of them.
clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
ii gstreamer0.10-alsa:powerpc 0.10.36-2
powerpc GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs:powerpc
0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer plugin for
GnomeVFS
ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:powerpc
0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer plugins
from the "base" set
ii gstreamer1.0-libav:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc libav plugin for GStreamer
ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:powerpc
1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer plugins
from the "base" set
ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:powerpc
1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer plugins
from the "good" set
ii gstreamer1.0-x:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
ii libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:powerpc
0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer libraries
from the "base" set
ii libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:powerpc
1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer libraries
from the "base" set
ii libgstreamer0.10-0:powerpc 0.10.36-1.5
powerpc Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii libgstreamer1.0-0:powerpc 1.6.3-1
powerpc Core GStreamer libraries and elements
ii libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer
1:5.0.5~rc1-1 powerpc GStreamer backend
for LibreOffice
Thanks
Clive
Hi Clive,
Here's what I have on my Jessie machine:
$ dpkg -l "gstreamer*plugins*"|grep "^ii"|awk '{print $2 "\t" $3}'
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386 0.10.23-7.4
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386 0.10.36-2
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386 0.10.31-3+nmu4+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:i386 1.4.4-2.1+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386 1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386 1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:i386 1.4.4-2+b1
Chris
Thanks Chris
I think I'll stick to gecko-mediaplayer for the time being.
Regards
Clive
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
On 12 February 2016 at 12:15 Clive Menzies wrote:
>
> Hi Chris
>
> I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but
> couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to
> be loads of them.
>
> clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer
> ii gstreamer0.10-alsa:powerpc 0.10.36-2
> powerpc GStreamer plugin for ALSA
> ii gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs:powerpc
> 0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer plugin for
> GnomeVFS
> ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:powerpc
> 0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer plugins
> from the "base" set
> ii gstreamer1.0-libav:powerpc 1.6.3-1
> powerpc libav plugin for GStreamer
> ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:powerpc
> 1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer plugins
> from the "base" set
> ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:powerpc
> 1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer plugins
> from the "good" set
> ii gstreamer1.0-x:powerpc 1.6.3-1
> powerpc GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango
> ii libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:powerpc
> 0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer libraries
> from the "base" set
> ii libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:powerpc
> 1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer libraries
> from the "base" set
> ii libgstreamer0.10-0:powerpc 0.10.36-1.5
> powerpc Core GStreamer libraries and elements
> ii libgstreamer1.0-0:powerpc 1.6.3-1
> powerpc Core GStreamer libraries and elements
> ii libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer
> 1:5.0.5~rc1-1 powerpc GStreamer backend
> for LibreOffice
>
> Thanks
>
> Clive
>
Hi Clive,
Here's what I have on my Jessie machine:
$ dpkg -l "gstreamer*plugins*"|grep "^ii"|awk '{print $2 "\t" $3}'
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad:i386 0.10.23-7.4
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:i386 0.10.36-2
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good:i386 0.10.31-3+nmu4+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:i386 1.4.4-2.1+b1
gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386 1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:i386 1.4.4-2
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly:i386 1.4.4-2+b1
Chris
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote: Hi Clive, YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5 player. If it's not doing that automatically then you can go to the following page to check: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't have full support for the required formats. I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted to create open source equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and incomplete even when they were under active development. Cheers, Chris Hi Chris I've got these and grepped apt-cache gstrreamer for mozilla/html but couldn't find anything. Any idea of what may be missing? There seem to be loads of them. clive@Pandora:~$ dpkg -l | grep gstreamer ii gstreamer0.10-alsa:powerpc 0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer plugin for ALSA ii gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs:powerpc 0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer plugin for GnomeVFS ii gstreamer0.10-plugins-base:powerpc 0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer plugins from the "base" set ii gstreamer1.0-libav:powerpc 1.6.3-1 powerpc libav plugin for GStreamer ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:powerpc 1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer plugins from the "base" set ii gstreamer1.0-plugins-good:powerpc 1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer plugins from the "good" set ii gstreamer1.0-x:powerpc 1.6.3-1 powerpc GStreamer plugins for X11 and Pango ii libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:powerpc 0.10.36-2 powerpc GStreamer libraries from the "base" set ii libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:powerpc 1.6.3-1powerpc GStreamer libraries from the "base" set ii libgstreamer0.10-0:powerpc 0.10.36-1.5 powerpc Core GStreamer libraries and elements ii libgstreamer1.0-0:powerpc 1.6.3-1 powerpc Core GStreamer libraries and elements ii libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer 1:5.0.5~rc1-1 powerpc GStreamer backend for LibreOffice Thanks Clive
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
HTML5 is very bothering i think because it consumes a lot of energy. you can disable automatic playback of it by going to in firefox type about:config (in statusbar) then click "OK" search for "webm" (again in statusbar) disable automatic playback webm content or so. id try to use firefox + greasemonkey + viewtube (by sebaro script) instead. then u can use mplayer or vlc plugin to playback video - that should work better. there is also a greasemonkey port for seamonkey on sourceforce but i did not find it installable. strangely enough i found last time greasemonkey not installable on powerpc g5 machine. i dont know why, though. please someone try this out thanks richard http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en https://github.com/sebaro/ViewTube On 2016-02-12 10:25, Clive Menzies wrote: On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote: Hi Clive, YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5 player. If it's not doing that automatically then you can go to the following page to check: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't have full support for the required formats. I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted to create open source equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and incomplete even when they were under active development. Many thanks Chris and for the machine which is great. Regards Clive
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
On 12/02/16 09:18, Chris Wareham wrote: Hi Clive, YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5 player. If it's not doing that automatically then you can go to the following page to check: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't have full support for the required formats. I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted to create open source equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and incomplete even when they were under active development. Many thanks Chris and for the machine which is great. Regards Clive
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
Hi Clive, YouTube should just work these days, since it falls back to using a HTML5 player. If it's not doing that automatically then you can go to the following page to check: https://www.youtube.com/html5?gl=GB I think you may need some extra gstreamer plugins installed if it show you don't have full support for the required formats. I wouldn't bother with the Gnash or Lightspark plugins that attempted to create open source equivalents of the the Flash plugin. I found them very buggy and incomplete even when they were under active development. Cheers, Chris > On 12 February 2016 at 01:13 Clive Menzies wrote: > > > Thanks Rich > > I'll try these. > > Regards > > Clive > > On 11/02/16 22:43, Richard Kuenz wrote: > > I don't think there is Flash available, neither Skype. > > > > You would have to use another solution, i think. > > > > On Youtube, normally i use > > > > Iceweasel + Greasemonkey Add-on +ViewTube Script > > > > http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en > > > > > > plus, i like very much > > > > MPV player + Youtube-Viewer (by Trizen). > > > > Starting with Jessie, MPV is available. > > > > On Wheezy you would need to compile it yourself > > > > https://nyxi.eu/blog/2014/01/19/compiling-mpv-in-Wheezy-2014/ > > > > > > cheers > > > > rich > > > > > > Am Feb 11, 2016 um 9:23 PM schrieb Clive Menzies > > : > > > >> On 10/02/16 19:33, Peter Saisanas wrote: > >> > >>> As an aside, I don't have sound or flash working yet - gnash > >>> doesn't seem to work and swf-dec is not in stretch. Can anyone > >>> point me in the right direction > >> > >> > >>> If you happen to be running the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel I built, it should > >>> work out of the box, assuming that no snd-aoa modules happen to be > >>> previously blacklisted. > >>> I recall a quirk with sound and it seemed that the built in speaker > >>> is always muted by default the first time snd-aoa driver is used! > >>> Not sure if anyone else has noticed this? > >>> > >>> Either way, in a console run alsamixer and check that the master and > >>> pcm output is not muted and increase the levels It should work > >>> (i hope)! > >>> > >>> If sound still doesn't work, please post your dmesg log when using > >>> the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel. > >> Thanks Peter > >> > >> alsa-utils wasn't installed - so installed it and #dpkg-reconfigure > >> alsa-base seems to have done the trick > >> > >> Just flash left to go... > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Clive > >> > >> -- > >> Clive Menzies > >> Political Economist > >> +44 (0) 7836 601378 > > > > > -- > Clive Menzies > Political Economist > +44 (0) 7836 601378 >
Re: Powermac G5 - flash
Thanks Rich I'll try these. Regards Clive On 11/02/16 22:43, Richard Kuenz wrote: I don't think there is Flash available, neither Skype. You would have to use another solution, i think. On Youtube, normally i use Iceweasel + Greasemonkey Add-on +ViewTube Script http://isebaro.com/viewtube/?ln=en plus, i like very much MPV player + Youtube-Viewer (by Trizen). Starting with Jessie, MPV is available. On Wheezy you would need to compile it yourself https://nyxi.eu/blog/2014/01/19/compiling-mpv-in-Wheezy-2014/ cheers rich Am Feb 11, 2016 um 9:23 PM schrieb Clive Menzies : On 10/02/16 19:33, Peter Saisanas wrote: As an aside, I don't have sound or flash working yet - gnash doesn't seem to work and swf-dec is not in stretch. Can anyone point me in the right direction If you happen to be running the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel I built, it should work out of the box, assuming that no snd-aoa modules happen to be previously blacklisted. I recall a quirk with sound and it seemed that the built in speaker is always muted by default the first time snd-aoa driver is used! Not sure if anyone else has noticed this? Either way, in a console run alsamixer and check that the master and pcm output is not muted and increase the levels It should work (i hope)! If sound still doesn't work, please post your dmesg log when using the 4.5.0-rc2 kernel. Thanks Peter alsa-utils wasn't installed - so installed it and #dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base seems to have done the trick Just flash left to go... Regards Clive -- Clive Menzies Political Economist +44 (0) 7836 601378 -- Clive Menzies Political Economist +44 (0) 7836 601378
