Re: Beryl - do I dare?
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:00:22 +0200, Andrew J. Barr wrote: What graphics card? Compiz runs fine on my ATI RV350 with the free radeon driver (well, what else?) and these patches: http://people.freedesktop.org/~daenzer/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp/ You _need_ these for AIGLX compositing and a discrete graphics card (e.g. it's own memory). You will want to throw your nice shiny Powerbook across the room if you don't have them and you try to run Compiz or Beryl. Trust me. I am using the normal xorg packages in unstable and compiz works just fine on my iBook with the ATi 9200. Am I missing something? What should these patches provide? The only problem I have is that on resume from sleep I get weird artifacts around the gnome panel, but that's about it. Restarting compiz makes them disappear. -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
On Fri, 2007-04-27 at 05:41 +, Jack Malmostoso wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:00:22 +0200, Andrew J. Barr wrote: What graphics card? Compiz runs fine on my ATI RV350 with the free radeon driver (well, what else?) and these patches: http://people.freedesktop.org/~daenzer/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp/ You _need_ these for AIGLX compositing and a discrete graphics card (e.g. it's own memory). You will want to throw your nice shiny Powerbook across the room if you don't have them and you try to run Compiz or Beryl. Trust me. I am using the normal xorg packages in unstable and compiz works just fine on my iBook with the ATi 9200. Am I missing something? Not at this time, as nobody's ported the 3D driver patches to the r200 driver yet. What should these patches provide? Instead of doing GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap by reading pixels from the pixmap then passing them to glTex(Sub)Image, which results in the 3D driver (re-)uploading the whole texture to video RAM regardless of how many pixels actually changed (which is only usable forcing pixmaps into system RAM with Option XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps / FBTexPercent 100, effectively disabling 2D acceleration with a compositing manager), they just point the 3D driver to the offscreen pixmap memory for direct texturing with EXA (not possible for various reasons with XAA). The only problem I have is that on resume from sleep I get weird artifacts around the gnome panel, but that's about it. Restarting compiz makes them disappear. I think that should be fixed in xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.6.191-1 in experimental. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | http://tungstengraphics.com Libre software enthusiast | Debian, X and DRI developer
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:00:25 +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: Instead of doing GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap by reading pixels[cut] Thanks Michel, always a pleasure to read your messages :) I think that should be fixed in xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.6.191-1 in experimental. I'll check it out then! Thanks again for the fine explanation! -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Taylor Oliphant wrote: Anyone have Beryl running? I have a powerbook g4 and would love to get it up and running. What graphics card? Compiz runs fine on my ATI RV350 with the free radeon driver (well, what else?) and these patches: http://people.freedesktop.org/~daenzer/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp/ You _need_ these for AIGLX compositing and a discrete graphics card (e.g. it's own memory). You will want to throw your nice shiny Powerbook across the room if you don't have them and you try to run Compiz or Beryl. Trust me. Also, if anyone happens to know off hand, is there a file that loads modules before /etc/modules? Specifically usbhid? If your query is related to the appletouch driver; recent kernels have a quirk to prevent usbhid from claiming the touchpad...the touchpad works without any manual hackery. Thanks! -T __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com - -- Andrew J. Barr Thunderbird/1.5.0.10 (compatible; Icedove 1.5; X11; en-US; Linux 2.6.21-rc7 ppc) (Debian/1.5.0.10dfsg.1) Why must I fail at every attempt at masonry? -- Homer Simpson, Mom and Pop Art [AABF15] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMQSUhuM+Z62a52oRAp40AKDaDxq0YmcTr41UTEXfeQzIOcP0PQCfcQbU xD7KXXe6b4yTy/mvqsAysSU= =eior -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:40:16 +0200, Taylor Oliphant wrote: Anyone have Beryl running? I have a powerbook g4 and would love to get it up and running. I use compiz, as I think Beryl has just way too much stuff going on. And no, I never took the time to configure it properly :) Anyway, as suggested, if you have an ATi based laptop, enabling AIGLX and compositing in xorg.conf will be enough. If you have an nvidia based one, tough luck, forget about it. Here are the changes I made in my xorg.conf (iBook G4 with ATi 9200): Section Device [...] Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true EndSection Section ServerLayout [...] Option AIGLX true EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Restart your X server, log in, start a terminal and type: $ sudo apt-get install compiz $ compiz --replace gconf If everything works, you can add it to your DE startup scripts. -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
Nvidia indeed - g4 1.33ghz So do you mean forget about it like, no hope what so ever? Or like, kick the computer a few times and maybe it will work? Thanks for the help, -T --- Jack Malmostoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:40:16 +0200, Taylor Oliphant wrote: Anyone have Beryl running? I have a powerbook g4 and would love to get it up and running. I use compiz, as I think Beryl has just way too much stuff going on. And no, I never took the time to configure it properly :) Anyway, as suggested, if you have an ATi based laptop, enabling AIGLX and compositing in xorg.conf will be enough. If you have an nvidia based one, tough luck, forget about it. Here are the changes I made in my xorg.conf (iBook G4 with ATi 9200): Section Device [...] Option XAANoOffscreenPixmaps true EndSection Section ServerLayout [...] Option AIGLX true EndSection Section Extensions Option Composite Enable EndSection Restart your X server, log in, start a terminal and type: $ sudo apt-get install compiz $ compiz --replace gconf If everything works, you can add it to your DE startup scripts. -- Best Regards, Jack Linux User #264449 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux on AMD64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Taylor Oliphant wrote: Nvidia indeed - g4 1.33ghz So do you mean forget about it like, no hope what so ever? Not whatsoever, but something approaching that: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ Some day. For the time being however, they put out newsletters to let you know how they're coming along: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/Nouveau_Companion_18 is the latest. Or like, kick the computer a few times and maybe it will work? Sorry. Us Linux/PPC folk hate proprietary stuff even more than most people because it won't even work for us. Andrew -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMV5xhuM+Z62a52oRAmVMAJ9jxo348RmAy3dRmjNUnIHQFzxN+gCeI2t3 cXp30GCHO2tmCg7/TfzuaKg= =5mFK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 15:59 -0400, Andrew J. Barr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Taylor Oliphant wrote: Anyone have Beryl running? I have a powerbook g4 and would love to get it up and running. What graphics card? Compiz runs fine on my ATI RV350 with the free radeon driver (well, what else?) and these patches: http://people.freedesktop.org/~daenzer/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp/ You _need_ these for AIGLX compositing and a discrete graphics card (e.g. it's own memory). You will want to throw your nice shiny Powerbook across the room if you don't have them and you try to run Compiz or Beryl. Trust me. Care to make .debs ? :-) Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 15:59 -0400, Andrew J. Barr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Taylor Oliphant wrote: Anyone have Beryl running? I have a powerbook g4 and would love to get it up and running. What graphics card? Compiz runs fine on my ATI RV350 with the free radeon driver (well, what else?) and these patches: http://people.freedesktop.org/~daenzer/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp/ You _need_ these for AIGLX compositing and a discrete graphics card (e.g. it's own memory). You will want to throw your nice shiny Powerbook across the room if you don't have them and you try to run Compiz or Beryl. Trust me. Care to make .debs ? :-) Been there done that. Add the key this message is signed with to your APT keyring and add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/linux/powerbook/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp ./ # optionally deb-src http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/linux/powerbook/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp ./ 512Kbps bandwidth max, however, so if it gets slow someone might have to mirror them. Minor caveat: If you want things WRT to upgrades to work normally, pin that repository somehow. I haven't figured out an easy and sane way to keep packages I've made personal changes to higher up on APT's list than the official repos, and I followed policy with regards to non-maintainer uploads (6.5.2-3 to 6.5.2-3.1) and now aptitude/update-notifier wants to upgrade mesa to 6.5.2-4 in unstable. The only thing I have figured is to bump the epoch (2:6.5.2-3) which is a bit messy and won't always yield desired results, especially if I end up distributing the packages. At any rate, enjoy. Andrew Ben. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGMXlwhuM+Z62a52oRAlPDAKDMbk270Hk5gSFOYTE01XcDpX9U9wCfcgDT CvlCrtmMoeHAYl4JW0OFDWI= =NFMi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Beryl - do I dare?
Been there done that. Add the key this message is signed with to your APT keyring and add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/linux/powerbook/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp ./ # optionally deb-src http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/~andrew/linux/powerbook/aiglx-zero-copy-tfp ./ 512Kbps bandwidth max, however, so if it gets slow someone might have to mirror them. Minor caveat: If you want things WRT to upgrades to work normally, pin that repository somehow. I haven't figured out an easy and sane way to keep packages I've made personal changes to higher up on APT's list than the official repos, and I followed policy with regards to non-maintainer uploads (6.5.2-3 to 6.5.2-3.1) and now aptitude/update-notifier wants to upgrade mesa to 6.5.2-4 in unstable. The only thing I have figured is to bump the epoch (2:6.5.2-3) which is a bit messy and won't always yield desired results, especially if I end up distributing the packages. Thanks ! Well... actually I'm running ubuntu on that laptop so I won't even try installing debian X packages but I though it would be useful to others. I'll build my own X with patches one of these days. Cheers, Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
