Re: libre firmware and Raptor Computing devices?

2022-08-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 12:10 PM Paul Wise  wrote:

> > Project Ortega is the libre firmware for the BCM5719. Update through fwupd
>
> Personally I very much dislike fwupd/LVFS as a place to distribute
> firmware from, since it is designed for proprietary vendor firmware.

and critically relies on an internet connection.

> I think libre firmware should be in Debian just like libre software.

the whole purpose of debian is that files are GPG-signed with a trusted
chain.  once a debian distro is downloaded and verified you even
*no longer require internet*.

some random s*** off the internet (npm, cargo, fwupd, pip3) is
dangerous, non-reproduceable and fragile.

l.



Re: libre firmware and Raptor Computing devices?

2022-08-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2022-08-24 at 03:15 +0200, Karl wrote:

> Project Ortega is the libre firmware for the BCM5719. Update through fwupd

Personally I very much dislike fwupd/LVFS as a place to distribute
firmware from, since it is designed for proprietary vendor firmware.

It doesn't have build logs, doesn't distribute source alongside
binaries (but allows links instead), doesn't have reproducible builds,
doesn't require libre build tools for libre firmware.

I think libre firmware should be in Debian just like libre software.

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Re: libre firmware and Raptor Computing devices?

2022-08-23 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wednesday, August 24, 2022, Paul Wise  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On the open firmware Debian wiki page, I note that Raptor Computing
> ppc64el devices have libre Ethernet firmware but that this firmware is
> not yet available in Debian. I read elsewhere that Raptor devices also
> have a libre boot firmware and BMC firmware but I haven't yet found the
> firmware projects that are useful for that.

there's a replacement BMC card ca!led the Arctic Tern
with dual ECP5 FPGAs that is capable of running LPC
boot. in theory its RGMII GbE could be made available
to the Power9 OS but PCIe on ECP5 using entirely libre
FPGA HDL and tools (nextpnr-ecp5) has to be completed
first.

the AST2600 has some bullshit library managing GPIO,
and ASpeed refuse to provide the source. probably
because of the plaintext silicon-hardcoded serial
console admin password.

l.


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Re: libre firmware and Raptor Computing devices?

2022-08-23 Thread Karl
Hello,on this wiki is everything writtenhttps://wiki.raptorcs.com/wiki/Main_PageProject Ortega is the libre firmware for the BCM5719. Update through fwupdhttps://forums.raptorcs.com/index.php/topic,305.msg2313.htmlAm 24.08.2022 um 03:01 schrieb Paul Wise :Hi all,On the open firmware Debian wiki page, I note that Raptor Computingppc64el devices have libre Ethernet firmware but that this firmware isnot yet available in Debian. I read elsewhere that Raptor devices alsohave a libre boot firmware and BMC firmware but I haven't yet found thefirmware projects that are useful for that.https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware/Open#NetworkIs there anyone on this list using Raptor Computing devices?How are you using the network on these devices?Have you considered packaging all the Raptor firmware for Debian?Can you update the wiki page linking to other Raptor firmware projects?-- bye,pabshttps://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

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