Sarge
spent last night downloading the Sarge live cd. tried to boot it three times, two succesful. What happens when you pass the video=ofonly argument? The first time I booted install and that gave me a black screen after it said loading ram disk, but then my cd-rw drive started working so I know it was initializing, like a normal boot sequence. the second time I booted install-2.4 video=ofonly and that booted with video. But after I went to install it hung on initializing PC Cards or starting PCMCIA or something like that. the third time I booted expert video=ofonly and that went fine. I went to execute shell script and everything worked fine. So my question is what is video=ofonly doing? And should I just do a net install of sarge using this, and is that even possible with dial up? --Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge
Hi everybody, Just wanted to say that sarge is out ! And I also like to know who is going to use it (inclusive me ;-) Best Regards Guillaume -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge
Em Sat 12 Mar 2005 17:43, Michael escreveu: > the third time I booted expert video=ofonly and that went fine. I went > to execute shell script and everything worked fine. > > So my question is what is video=ofonly doing? And should I just do a > net install of sarge using this, and is that even possible with dial up? The ofonly option orders the kernel to use the Open Firmware frame buffer instead of the one specific to your video card. By the way, which card do you have? I think that you need to install a base system before you can use dial up. > > --Mike Rafael pgpnvdjjlG2FV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sarge
Guillaume Florey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi everybody, > Just wanted to say that sarge is out ! And I also like to know who is going > to > use it (inclusive me ;-) Why not sid ? :P -- William -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:36:07 +0800 William Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: WX> Guillaume Florey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: WX> WX> > Hi everybody, WX> > Just wanted to say that sarge is out ! And I also like to know who WX> > is going to use it (inclusive me ;-) WX> WX> Why not sid ? :P WX> In the next few months there will probably be a lot of upheaval in Sid (e.g. xorg, gcc 4 ...) so it's likely to actually be unstable for a bit. James -- ++---+-+ | James Tappin | School of Physics & Astronomy | O__| | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | University of Birmingham | -- \/` | | Ph: 0121-414-6462. Fax: 0121-414-3722 | | ++-+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sarge iso
Hi list, How know where I can find a bootable iso sarge??? thanks
XFree86 on SARGE
Well, I gritted it out and did the 2 day long aptitude dist-upgrade from Woody to Sarge, after numerous questions as to why I didn't. The iso I downloaded for Sarge must've become corrupted, because the cd-rw I burnt it on wouldn't boot any kernels, apt-cdrom kept giving me read errors, and then I tried to mount it in OS X and that gave me an error. But those woes aside, is there a way to add another mirror to the sources.list file, the one I was using didn't have some packages on it. libident 0.22-2 exim 3.36-13 nvi 1.79-21 makedev 2.3.1-75 doc-linux-test 2004.11-1 libidn11 0.5.2-3 procmail 3.22-10 In case those are important. It also told me it would install mutt but wouldn't, I'm figuring the reason to be one of those is a dependency for it, I could be wrong. I think it has something to do with email, right? I have attached my XFree86.0.log hoping someone can make heads or tails out of it, I can't, and the error it quits on I have no clue. "Can't find any screens" Undoubtedly I have a configuration problem. In case it's a pci problem (my first thought) when I initially configured it it asked for a pci address for my card, I left it at the default which was 0:17:0, I think. And then doing an lspci it looks like my card is at 0:10:0, but then in the log it looks like my pci bus is being probed by xfree anyway, so I could be wrong. I will google it for a while, but any help is appreciated --Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
enigmail on Sarge?
Hi! Unfortunately I had to do a new installation on my ppc-Debian-box. And some things don't work yet. I always used without any problems Thunderbird with Enigmail, even after Thunderbird's last upgrade to 1.0. Now it is still 1.0 and I tried to install enigmail as an extension from the mozilla-site but after the restart I got an error message in a pop-up-window that mime/gpg would not work and I should disinstall it (something like that). So I tried with the version from the enigmail-site but it was the same and the developers declared that you might not mix packaged version and original version of thunderbird and enigmail. So I searched debian packets for ppc. I found only two: 0.86.1-1 and 0.90.2-1. When I try to install them I get error messages. With the first it requires a Thunderbird-version older than 0.8, with the second a version => 1.0.2 (not yet available for Sarge). I thought to download the sid-version which is 1.0.3 but since yesterday I can't do a search on the debian-site, don't know why. And anyway, after I have broken my system with the installation of kde 3.4 from kubuntu I prefer to stay with the sarge-debs to be on the secure side. Has anybody an advice how to get enigmail working in Thunderbird? (It was this the reason why I changed from Opera!) Thanks. -Bjoern. -- Composed and send with Thunderbird on Debian "Sarge" (PPC) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Probs with Sarge
Hi there, I'm currently running Debian Linux Sarge on an old beige Powermac G3, 266Mhz. Up till now I have run the machine without X without problems, but due to problems with my Wintel laptop and encrouching college deadlines I have decided to try to install X windows in order to use openoffice or abiword. So far I have been successful, and despite the slightly anoxreic specs of the machine GNOME and XFCE seem to run reasonably well. However, X seems to suffer from occasional problems in rendering the screen. Every now and again, X will render a bitmap or a window with a whole bunch of noise in it. You can "clear" the noise away by running a window slowly over the affected area, but it usually returns. Is this a common problem? I am on a tight budget so if there is a software solution to this, other than not using X, then I would much appreciate it. If there is not and it is a specification issue, then what requires upgrading: VRAM (or the graphics card) or the RAM? I don't wish to spend money only to find it makes little noticeable improvement - as Linux now gets more use here than the archaic OS 9. Kernel: 2.6.8 Memory: 92.1MB Video: 2Meg, ATI Rage Pro. I do not use the framebuffer. Monitor: M1212 Color display Boot system: BootX on MacOS9 startup. -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/snooo http://louderthanwar.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge iso
Hi, Whiterabbit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How know where I can find a bootable iso sarge??? Nowhere, I'm afraid. There are jigdo descriptions for testing at http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/jigdo-area/powerpc/>, but they are currently marked as unbootable/uninstallable. Their only use is for upgrades from stable. However, you can find instructions on rolling your own bootable CD with the new debian-installer at http://www.soziologie.ch/users/steinlin/d-i/>. I haven't tried them, but the netbooting instructions on that page worked very well for me and a bunch of Powermacs, so this is worth a try. Regards, Jens. -- J'qbpbe, le m'en fquz pe j'qbpbe! Le veux aimeb et mqubib panz je pézqbpbe je djuz tqtaj!
Sarge on a G5?
Hey!! Does the ppc release of sarge work with the G5 (970) processor? THX!!! Charles Read -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree86 on SARGE
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 12:31:27PM -0800, Michael wrote: > Well, I gritted it out and did the 2 day long aptitude dist-upgrade from > Woody to Sarge, after numerous questions as to why I didn't. The iso I > downloaded for Sarge must've become corrupted, because the cd-rw I burnt > it on wouldn't boot any kernels, apt-cdrom kept giving me read errors, > and then I tried to mount it in OS X and that gave me an error. > But those woes aside, is there a way to add another mirror to the you can choose another mirror via dselect > sources.list file, the one I was using didn't have some packages on it. > libident 0.22-2 > exim 3.36-13 > nvi 1.79-21 > makedev 2.3.1-75 > doc-linux-test 2004.11-1 > libidn11 0.5.2-3 > procmail 3.22-10 > In case those are important. It also told me it would install mutt but > wouldn't, I'm figuring the reason to be one of those is a dependency for > it, I could be wrong. I think it has something to do with email, right? > > I have attached my XFree86.0.log hoping someone can make heads or tails > out of it, I can't, and the error it quits on I have no clue. "Can't > find any screens" Undoubtedly I have a configuration problem. In case > it's a pci problem (my first thought) when I initially configured it it > asked for a pci address for my card, I left it at the default which was > 0:17:0, I think. And then doing an lspci it looks like my card is at > 0:10:0, but then in the log it looks like my pci bus is being probed by lspci gives you the value in hex, whereas XF86Config wants it decimal. Hex 0:10:0 is decimal 0:16:0 > xfree anyway, so I could be wrong. I will google it for a while, but > any help is appreciated > --Mike > > Filippo > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > pgpjQSEmsdops.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: enigmail on Sarge?
Björn Schöpe wrote: Hi! Unfortunately I had to do a new installation on my ppc-Debian-box. And some things don't work yet. I always used without any problems Thunderbird with Enigmail, even after Thunderbird's last upgrade to 1.0. Now it is still 1.0 and I tried to install enigmail as an extension from the mozilla-site but after the I'm usign Thunderbid+PGP extension without problem Thunderbird version 1.0 (20050117) this is the packages, I hope this could help you mozilla-thunde 1.0-3 Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client mozilla-thunde 0.90.0-1 Enigmail - GPG support for Mozilla gnupg 1.2.5-3 Alessandro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: enigmail on Sarge?
Hi Alessandro! Indeed I was searching for an enigmail between 0.86.1-1 and 0.90.2-1 so I immagine I need the 0.90.0-1 you use (thunderbird and gnupg are the same as mine) but where do I get it? It's not in the sarge repositories I have in my sources.list, and I could not find it neither with google. Now finally I was able to use the search-function on packages.debian.org. For thunderbird-enigmail I got: # testing (mail): Error while loading descriptions database: 2:0.90.0-1: hppa # unstable (mail): 2:0.90.2-1: hppa ia64 m68k mipsel powerpc 2:0.90.0-1: arm hppa sparc So there is a strange error for the 0.90.0.1 and anyway it seems to be only for hppa, the same as in unstable where powerpc version is only the newer. Might you give me an url where you got it from or the respository? Thanks a lot. -Bjoern. Alessandro De Zorzi ha scritto: Björn Schöpe wrote: Hi! Unfortunately I had to do a new installation on my ppc-Debian-box. And some things don't work yet. I always used without any problems Thunderbird with Enigmail, even after Thunderbird's last upgrade to 1.0. Now it is still 1.0 and I tried to install enigmail as an extension from the mozilla-site but after the I'm usign Thunderbid+PGP extension without problem Thunderbird version 1.0 (20050117) this is the packages, I hope this could help you mozilla-thunde 1.0-3 Mozilla Thunderbird standalone mail client mozilla-thunde 0.90.0-1 Enigmail - GPG support for Mozilla gnupg 1.2.5-3 Alessandro -- Composed and send with Thunderbird on Debian "Sarge" (PPC) -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBEFHW1IRBACNdCKb4kqwu8rcex1pwYUP3f6YrSBWZ2vL1zpNoVwbrm3+rLBO iuamCv8a4x+Cuzb8h4qRKTu5FVYcDFLic8SOZ3bzWue9o06X2apcOzRjgJyEynFT IkP4fSCjuokluehDFbK2vQoW2pJijtTm5J0+Ycwkz8S7IoynzFIzU+y60wCgoqgm 1gHcbTqnaJ/oBR5Mq42ly+8D/3gGagXLJGhDWsmdSHIvwodAebpcFMopFj7h8vJD Dov12MqMZNTCC5eFpZ3brqnehUVeGhVUShMlov1hSRFr/eL2SAx/UytVMi6Mgoab AhumCYmjzCZb4RuwIsFMeFU2vDm6lS9i3oBSS4l+lVWYJt+dBJUxcfHEhF0dci/h Z1t/A/4yjL7NzVvYwuIoDtivkCq0lYBqZAr81sn5iQCjKS/YH4ox/WW3cim0hu0h DMctVB72lLu913xRTVTr876Nr1rUICtameTHG4u5OlpDHCnUFMOyHgaI2YDL0YOw LChNjbmqePpmidSdgpe9MGVsS4xBtTx014wgFwQLqmo0+tQ1f7YfYmpvc2No IDxiam9lcm5zY2hvZXBlQHlhaG9vLml0PohbBBMRAgAbBQJBR1tSBgsJCAcDAgMV AgMDFgIBAh4BAheAAAoJEAMxh9Tkyhdo+tkAn1bDJAubEVw5JCFElJ6lGggknsgn AJ98GTudqb0S6YIShnQ4uKsWTH43krkBDQRBR1tUEAQAnMjOfPFfWXKHSoEw+Ov8 FExkVLS1wdxiAY+Jzt/9uyaSRhH2U2JLopzGA5fimmgMUUwpnTDAubYaXyCNGxcL 2s+DvsIObYdbou0KzioDF7pJVrs1kUBLpzE07juDQ4aNQbJjE9sILwBsNxtdOkUl o3dom00RknRKrglTTvheeosAAwUD/3+G1I8SBMnHThIBQNkcCbos6zUANYTTPqH6 98kdIBNRlJWLox22FJxHJ0sQ2iJoCNch4oAptIGv5W1crU5o0k8bRVhoW20Zu0QY li2ZNFFNFcucRooX3RGTBUH+5tl0ytae4u2eD5Td670HTk2qgII4vPAwVP2fnSFa eKMvPSKKiEYEGBECAAYFAkFHW1QACgkQAzGH1OTKF2gnqgCfSHAiW1O8O/HAVKB/ dEO1D5Yj+9UAn0p8GoIEf9FtQyEXhlLMRPRepdkY =qdA8 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: enigmail on Sarge?
Björn Schöpe wrote: Hi Alessandro! Indeed I was searching for an enigmail between 0.86.1-1 and 0.90.2-1 so I immagine I need the 0.90.0-1 you use (thunderbird and gnupg are the same as mine) but where do I get it? deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free Alessandro PS your .gnupg/ is really ok? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: enigmail on Sarge?
Alessandro De Zorzi ha scritto: Björn Schöpe wrote: Hi Alessandro! Indeed I was searching for an enigmail between 0.86.1-1 and 0.90.2-1 so I immagine I need the 0.90.0-1 you use (thunderbird and gnupg are the same as mine) but where do I get it? deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free my /etc/apt/sources.list ist now: # deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free # deb http://people.debian.org/~asac/testing/ ./ # deb-src http://people.debian.org/~asac/testing/ ./ # engimail deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://debian.fastweb.it/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free But the result was this: Aemilia:/home/bjosch# apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto Il pacchetto mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail non disponibile, ma citato da un altro pacchetto. Questo significa che il pacchetto manca, diventato obsoleto o disponibile da un'altra sorgente E: Il pacchetto mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail non ha candidati da installare Alessandro PS your .gnupg/ is really ok? Yes, .gnupg is OK, I'm using kgpg and it works fine. Do you understand what the problem is? I really wonder why it went without problems some months ago and now not. Maybe I had another depository, because in synaptic, what I'm using, I don't see from what repository which single package comes. Unfortunately I've lost my old sources.list, I thought I had made a backup, but no... Can you help me? Thanks and greetings. -Bjoern. -- Composed and send with Thunderbird on Debian "Sarge" (PPC) -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) mQGiBEFHW1IRBACNdCKb4kqwu8rcex1pwYUP3f6YrSBWZ2vL1zpNoVwbrm3+rLBO iuamCv8a4x+Cuzb8h4qRKTu5FVYcDFLic8SOZ3bzWue9o06X2apcOzRjgJyEynFT IkP4fSCjuokluehDFbK2vQoW2pJijtTm5J0+Ycwkz8S7IoynzFIzU+y60wCgoqgm 1gHcbTqnaJ/oBR5Mq42ly+8D/3gGagXLJGhDWsmdSHIvwodAebpcFMopFj7h8vJD Dov12MqMZNTCC5eFpZ3brqnehUVeGhVUShMlov1hSRFr/eL2SAx/UytVMi6Mgoab AhumCYmjzCZb4RuwIsFMeFU2vDm6lS9i3oBSS4l+lVWYJt+dBJUxcfHEhF0dci/h Z1t/A/4yjL7NzVvYwuIoDtivkCq0lYBqZAr81sn5iQCjKS/YH4ox/WW3cim0hu0h DMctVB72lLu913xRTVTr876Nr1rUICtameTHG4u5OlpDHCnUFMOyHgaI2YDL0YOw LChNjbmqePpmidSdgpe9MGVsS4xBtTx014wgFwQLqmo0+tQ1f7YfYmpvc2No IDxiam9lcm5zY2hvZXBlQHlhaG9vLml0PohbBBMRAgAbBQJBR1tSBgsJCAcDAgMV AgMDFgIBAh4BAheAAAoJEAMxh9Tkyhdo+tkAn1bDJAubEVw5JCFElJ6lGggknsgn AJ98GTudqb0S6YIShnQ4uKsWTH43krkBDQRBR1tUEAQAnMjOfPFfWXKHSoEw+Ov8 FExkVLS1wdxiAY+Jzt/9uyaSRhH2U2JLopzGA5fimmgMUUwpnTDAubYaXyCNGxcL 2s+DvsIObYdbou0KzioDF7pJVrs1kUBLpzE07juDQ4aNQbJjE9sILwBsNxtdOkUl o3dom00RknRKrglTTvheeosAAwUD/3+G1I8SBMnHThIBQNkcCbos6zUANYTTPqH6 98kdIBNRlJWLox22FJxHJ0sQ2iJoCNch4oAptIGv5W1crU5o0k8bRVhoW20Zu0QY li2ZNFFNFcucRooX3RGTBUH+5tl0ytae4u2eD5Td670HTk2qgII4vPAwVP2fnSFa eKMvPSKKiEYEGBECAAYFAkFHW1QACgkQAzGH1OTKF2gnqgCfSHAiW1O8O/HAVKB/ dEO1D5Yj+9UAn0p8GoIEf9FtQyEXhlLMRPRepdkY =qdA8 -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NES emulation with Sarge?
Hello! Is there a NES emulator for Debian Sarge(PPC) somewhere? I've managed to get the source from different projects, but I have not been able to compile them. It seems that they only work for pc:s. Björn Johansson (not a member of the list so don't forget to cc)
update soures.list for Sarge ?
Hi, Finally I managed to install a woody on my Ibook G3 900 I installed a realy minimal system until now and then I modified the sources.list replacing "stable" with "testing" in every address. then I upgraded through apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Everything went well and now I ahould have a minimal Sarge on my comp. The problem is that I have to complete the installation; I tried with tasksel at the beginning, but he does not proceed to the download and installation of the packets because a problem in the apt/sources.list...any of you can send here a working sources.list in order to complete the installation of a Sarge on an Ibook ? Thank you in advance Diego __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/
Sarge Apache and PHPSessions
I am having a LOT of problems with the sarge/testing version of Apache when dealing with PHP Sessions. For the most part, anytime I load a PHP application that uses a PHP session, I have login/authentication problems. In Mozilla, it gives a "This Document contains no data" error, and in IE it gives the standard "This page cannot be loaded." Checking the apache error logs, here is what I see: [Wed Nov 20 21:28:06 2002] [notice] child pid 30712 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Wed Nov 20 21:28:06 2002] [notice] child pid 30488 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) [Wed Nov 20 21:28:09 2002] [notice] child pid 31499 exit signal Segmentation fault (11) Anytime I see the error in the browser, I get one of these messages in the log. I downgraded to the woody/stable version of apache, and all works perfectly, even though I do not touch the PHP version installed. I tried searching through the bug reports and haven't found anything that is close. I'm not exactly sure HOW to report bugs, and if this is something that should be reported... So far, this only happens with the PPC version. I have several i386 machines serving the same apps with sarge and there are no problems. Any ideas on how I should proceed? pgp7ndGf6IhS4.pgp Description: PGP signature
sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
Hello, It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release candidates are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the bugs and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which will not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due to the longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel. I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and give them over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who will be handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and beyond kernels. I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting their maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team anyway, and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a small change. 2.4 series will be dropped post sarge, at least as far as powerpc is concerned, so it would be nice to have someone with interest in the remaining 2.4-needing subarches to show up and propose patches for 2.6. These are : o oldworld miboot refuses to work with 2.6 for some obscure reason, i got it working three times in oldebourg, but it stopped working mysteriously, and no positive report since then. well, miboot is non-free and currently non-distributable anyway, so ... Maybe the quik-from-a-floppy work will help us there. o apus kernels. There is some 2.6 work, which i will apply as a subarch patch to 2.6 kernels in the future, and build. I have no apus box at the moment though (altough i am getting a A(3|)000, but needs a powerup card for it still. o nubus kernels. Those have been added to 2.4.27 kernels, but i have got no report of their working or not. I heard there was willingness to work on 2.6 nubus kernels, and i would greatly appreciate getting patches for them, and people with interest for testing. All the other cases will work fine with 2.6 kernels, and there should be no problem in dropping 2.4 for them. Anyone still running 2.4 kernels on powerpc except for the three above cases needs to think it over seriously, given the over one year now abandonement of upstream linuxppc developer of the 2.4 branch. Plans on my part for 2.6 powerpc kernels are : 1) abandonement of the ppc32 power3 and power4 kernels in favour of ppc64 variants. 2) migration to a common and single kernel package for all arches. 3) forward porting of the above mentioned patches and inclusion in the main 2.6 kernels. 4) work on some way to move the serial console and other fbdev drivers to modules which are loaded as early as possible from the ramdisk, to further reduce the size of the kernel. 5) maybe start including some embedded kernels, depending on availability of hardware and interest. Anything else needed for the powerpc post-sarge kernels, please comment here. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge on a Dual G5??
Hey crew! Thinking about installing Sarge on a Dual 2Ghz PowerMac G5, is that possible via the ppc release? Thanks!! As always any help is appreciated! Charles Read -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge on a G5?
"Charles" == Charles Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> Hey!! Does the ppc release of sarge work with the G5 Charles> (970) processor? Yes! If you have a recent machine (PowerMac7,3 with the 970FX) please use a recent d-i build (20050117 or later). Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge on a G5?
Thinking... how do I eject the CR/DVD drive on my PowerMac G5 after install? Since there is no manual button Charles Read http://www.charlesread.com 4049939992 View my schedule! (http://ical.mac.com/charles.read/Charles32Read) On Jan 25, 2005, at 9:17 PM, Shyamal Prasad wrote: "Charles" == Charles Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> Hey!! Does the ppc release of sarge work with the G5 Charles> (970) processor? Yes! If you have a recent machine (PowerMac7,3 with the 970FX) please use a recent d-i build (20050117 or later). Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge on a G5?
"Charles" == Charles Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> Thinking... how do I eject the CR/DVD drive on my Charles> PowerMac G5 after install? Since there is no manual Charles> button It will eject by itself, and then automatically reinsert on reboot. It's kinda wierd ;-) Charles> d-i? Sorry, that is jargon I've learned for "Debian Installer". Get a recent daily build and I hope you have a fast net connection. http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/ Cheers Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge on a G5?
Just booted the latest d-i :) netinst and it hangs on 'opening display: yada yada' after i hit enter at the boot: prompt... any suggestions? Charles Read http://www.charlesread.com 4049939992 View my schedule! (http://ical.mac.com/charles.read/Charles32Read) On Jan 25, 2005, at 9:51 PM, Shyamal Prasad wrote: "Charles" == Charles Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> How after that? Will the eject button on the Mac Charles> keyboard work? Nope, it does not. Yet. I've switched to a Mac in the last month or so, there might be some trick I don't know about. But the 'eject' command works fine (if you use GNOME you can right click on the CD on the desktop and select 'Eject'). Charles> You have written me back several times in the Charles> past thank you! If I may ask what is your Charles> affiliation w/ Debian? Or are you just a fellow nerd? Just a fellow nerd! Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge on a G5?
Read the "man eject" I think it is something eject -t device On Tue, 2005-25-01 at 21:21 -0500, Charles Read wrote: > Thinking... how do I eject the CR/DVD drive on my PowerMac G5 after > install? Since there is no manual button > > > > Charles Read > http://www.charlesread.com > 4049939992 > > View my schedule! (http://ical.mac.com/charles.read/Charles32Read) > On Jan 25, 2005, at 9:17 PM, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > > > "Charles" == Charles Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Charles> Hey!! Does the ppc release of sarge work with the G5 > > Charles> (970) processor? > > > > Yes! > > > > If you have a recent machine (PowerMac7,3 with the 970FX) please use a > > recent d-i build (20050117 or later). > > > > Cheers! > > Shyamal > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge on a G5?
"Charles" == Charles Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Charles> Just booted the latest d-i :) netinst and it hangs on Charles> 'opening display: yada yada' after i hit enter at the Charles> boot: prompt... any suggestions? Oh yes, the things I've started taking for granted after a month using powerpc! You need to select install-power4 at the boot prompt (or, if you want really fine control over each step, expert-power4, I don't recommend it at this point). Hit the tab key and you will get a list of boot kernels. Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Japanese Input on Sarge/KDE
Hi everyone. In the past I have been able to get a working japaese input system with canna-server and kinput2. i start the input environment with a little script: export LANG=ja_JP kinput2 -xim -kinput -canna & uxterm& from the uxterm i can start typing in japanese by first pressing "shift+space". in the past any KDE application started from this uxterm would allow me to input japanes into a text field by first pressing "shift+space"... A couple of months ago this stopped working. Could there be something that has changed since then? Also, i was advised to add the following to my .xinitrc: export XMODIFIERS='@im=kinput2 however i am not really sure what this is doing.. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! -- Dylan Beaudette Soil Science Graduate Group University of California at Davis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
'allo,
I've been working with what I thought was Sarge. I noticed today
that I'm actually
pulling down packages from unstable (Sid). How do I ensure that I am
always using
Sarge, though at times there might be something in Sid that I might
want to pull down
and try out.
In /etc/apt/apt.conf:
APT
{
Default-Release "testing";
};
This should make sure that I only get from testing aka Sarge, yes ?
cheers,
mehul
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Re: NES emulation with Sarge?
On Thursday 07 April 2005 11:08, Björn Johansson wrote: > Is there a NES emulator for Debian Sarge(PPC) somewhere? > I've managed to get the source from different projects, but I have not been > able to compile them. It seems that they only work for pc:s. Try "apt-cache search nes" or "apt-cache search nintendo" :) -- Lee.
Powerbook 12 Debian Sarge Sleep
Hi all, I successfully installed Debian GNU/Linux sarge in my powerboook 12" aluminium, using the netinstaller. I do have a doubt, though. Google told me that there is no way still to make the 3dacceleration to work (grrr bad nvidia!), as well as the airport extreme; but I am still doubtful about the sleep function. I found this: http://www.formorer.de/view.php/page/Suspend%20to%20RAM Did anybody try it? Do you think that I sould just recompilre the patched kernel and it'll work? Thanks in advanced, Federico -- Federico 'Pain' Pistono - Scream for meDepartment of Computer Science - Verona, ItalyMy website www.federicopistono.org My personal website ::: http://pain.altervista.orgEx-College Website http://pain.altervista.org/flatnukeuwcad Linux Registered User #340392
Getting Flash support on Sarge
I want to get a Flash plugin to run under Sarge. I downloaded the source for GPLFlash 0.4.13, but upon running ./configure I'm eventually met with the error "configure: error: *** GPLFlash requires libjpeg." I Googled for libjpeg, but all I found was jpeg-6b -- which was a few years old. Regardless, I downloaded the source and compiled it, but I still get the same error when trying to ./configure GPLFlash. I'm running Debian Sarge with the stock kernel on an Apple PowerBook G3 500 MHz 'Pismo'.
booting a 7200 with sarge
I'm trying to boot a 7200, with the following: PCI slot 1: Crescendo G3 7200 PCI slot 2: USB 1.1 card (D-Link) PCI slot 3: Radeon 7000 ME the monitor is (right now) *not* connected to the radeon, but apparently I can't boot the installer using BootX (just got a black screen). I know that the crescendo won't work, that's ok, but is there a way to boot it without having to remove it? I'm using the sarge netinstall cd kernel and ram disk. salud! (cheers!) funkaster = (person *)malloc(sizeof(person)*curr_age+2);
Install Sarge on a Ibook ?
Hi, This is my first message in this list, and I willl begin with a presentation : I am Diego, an happy owner of an Ibook G3 900 MHZ, combo. Some weeks ago I upgraded my system to the panther, and in that occasion I partitioned my HD so that a partition of 3 GB is now free just to install a debian inside ! I read some how-to and the instruction are quite clear, but what I would like to do is to install a debian testing distribution (Sarge); I think the best way to do it is to install a very little "core" of debian from wich install the complete debian testing distribution (so,a network installation ) but I do not know exactly what is the procedure and where to find the core I need to start the installation; I am sure this is not the first time of a request like this here, so a link with a tutorial or the essential informations would be greatly appreciated: Note the in my system I do not have Mac OS 9, only Panther and, hopefully, Linux Debian :) Thank you in advance for any help or advices, Diego __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/
Another sarge install problem - inn2
Hello all, I have one other problem in the upgrade to sarge. inn2 won't install. I keep getting the error: /etc/news/inn.conf: cannot create /etc/news/inn.conf.new.1464: No such file or directly. Those figures, i.e. 1464, are different for each install attempt. I don't really understand what is happening. There is probably a simple work around. Can anyone help?? Thanks Paul --
Segfault on apt-get (sarge)
I just upgraded one of my briQ-based servers to the latest from sarge, and now I get segmentation faults when apt reads package lists: # apt-get update [various sites hit] Fetched 7066B in 0s (7482B/s) Segmentation faultsts... 1% # apt-cache update Segmentation fault The update that caused these problems to begin brought in the following packages: base-config base-files console-common debconf debconf-i18n diff findutils iptables libc6 login modutils nano passwd ppp procps proftpd proftpd-common proftpd-doc pump wget wwwconfig-common I don't know which of these would have caused the issue, but my reading of changelogs and searches of the bug tracking system haven't brought up anything useful. I can still get files onto the system, and I can still install them with `dpkg -i`, so I'm confident that I can recover from this situation ... but only if I can figure out which package is to blame. TIA, -- Ken Treis Miriam Technologies, Inc.
Java and Mozilla in Sarge
Interesting problem here, I have the java stuff installed from http://people.debian.org/klecker (I think, or something to that effect), yet Mozilla is unuseable with Java, whereas Netscrape 4.7 works fine (If a bit slow.), anybody have any idea what's wrong here? --Shawn
Re: Sarge Apache and PHPSessions
Matthew, On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 03:50, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > I am having a LOT of problems with the sarge/testing version of Apache > when dealing with PHP Sessions. For the most part, anytime I load a > PHP application that uses a PHP session, I have login/authentication > problems. In Mozilla, it gives a "This Document contains no data" > error, and in IE it gives the standard "This page cannot be loaded." This appears to be a general problem with PHP4 under powerpc. The bug is only concerning sessions that are saved as file and a workaround is to select the "mm" session save handler in your php.ini: [Session] ; Handler used to store/retrieve data. #session.save_handler = files session.save_handler = mm Of course, the downside is that your sessions don't survive a restart of your http server. Hope this helps. Eric -- Freelance consulting and training. http://dyomedea.com/english/ Eric van der Vlist http://xmlfr.orghttp://dyomedea.com (W3C) XML Schema ISBN:0-596-00252-1 http://oreilly.com/catalog/xmlschema
Re: Sarge Apache and PHPSessions
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 09:46:41AM +0100, Eric van der Vlist wrote: > This appears to be a general problem with PHP4 under powerpc. The bug is > only concerning sessions that are saved as file and a workaround is to > select the "mm" session save handler in your php.ini: > > [Session] > ; Handler used to store/retrieve data. > #session.save_handler = files > session.save_handler = mm > > Of course, the downside is that your sessions don't survive a restart of > your http server. > > Hope this helps. I already have this setting changed to mm, and it makes no difference. However, if I downgrade to the woody version of apache, all works perfectly... Strange... Thanks for the reply!
Re: Sarge Apache and PHPSessions
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 14:27, Matthew Daubenspeck wrote: > I already have this setting changed to mm, and it makes no difference. Must be a different issue, then! I am using sessions with the following PHP and Apache versions from sid on powerpc without problem (when sessions are handled in memory): ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii apache 1.3.26-1.1 Versatile, high-performance HTTP ii php4 4.2.3-3A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting Sorry for the confusion! Eric -- Freelance consulting and training. http://dyomedea.com/english/ Eric van der Vlist http://xmlfr.orghttp://dyomedea.com (W3C) XML Schema ISBN:0-596-00252-1 http://oreilly.com/catalog/xmlschema
Re: Sarge Apache and PHPSessions
On Thu, Nov 21, 2002 at 03:23:52PM +0100, Eric van der Vlist wrote: > Must be a different issue, then! I am using sessions with the following > PHP and Apache versions from sid on powerpc without problem (when > sessions are handled in memory): > > ||/ Name VersionDescription > +++-==-==- > ii apache 1.3.26-1.1 Versatile, high-performance HTTP > ii php4 4.2.3-3A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting > Sorry for the confusion! Maybe it has something to do with PHP4? ||/ NameVersion Description +++-===-===-== ii apache 1.3.26-0woody1 Versatile, high-performance HTTP server ii php44.1.2-5 A server-side, HTML-embedded scripting languag
Samba 3 on Sarge ppc
Hello i would like to install Samba 3 on a Sarge ppc , but without upgrade to Sid, is there a procedure to upgrade only Samba ? Thanx very much
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:41:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Hello, > > It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release candidates > are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the bugs > and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which will > not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due to the > longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel. > > I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and give them > over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who will be > handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and beyond > kernels. > > I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting their > maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team anyway, > and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a small change. > > 2.4 series will be dropped post sarge, at least as far as powerpc is > concerned, so it would be nice to have someone with interest in the remaining > 2.4-needing subarches to show up and propose patches for 2.6. These are : > > o oldworld miboot refuses to work with 2.6 for some obscure reason, i got it > working three times in oldebourg, but it stopped working mysteriously, and > no positive report since then. well, miboot is non-free and currently > non-distributable anyway, so ... Maybe the quik-from-a-floppy work will help > us there. > > o apus kernels. There is some 2.6 work, which i will apply as a subarch > patch to 2.6 kernels in the future, and build. I have no apus box at the > moment though (altough i am getting a A(3|)000, but needs a powerup card for > it still. > > o nubus kernels. Those have been added to 2.4.27 kernels, but i have got no > report of their working or not. I heard there was willingness to work on 2.6 > nubus kernels, and i would greatly appreciate getting patches for them, and > people with interest for testing. > > All the other cases will work fine with 2.6 kernels, and there should be no > problem in dropping 2.4 for them. Anyone still running 2.4 kernels on powerpc > except for the three above cases needs to think it over seriously, given the > over one year now abandonement of upstream linuxppc developer of the 2.4 > branch. > > Plans on my part for 2.6 powerpc kernels are : > > 1) abandonement of the ppc32 power3 and power4 kernels in favour of ppc64 > variants. Fine, I don't have any of these, but the rule becomes 64 bit processors must run 64 bit kernels looks sane. > > 2) migration to a common and single kernel package for all arches. What do you mean? Some PPC variants are so fundamentally incompatible that a single kernel is impossible (completely different MMU). So you mean putting several kernel images in a single debian package? OTOH, I'd like to see PowerPlus and MVME5100 being considered as PreP and not specific. I don't have MVME5100 but 2[467]00 series, the only real difference is the memory map at boot. My bootloader actually remaps my board to look like an MVME5100 because it gives more room to map the VME bus and nobody needs 1GB of PCI I/O space. > > 3) forward porting of the above mentioned patches and inclusion in the main > 2.6 kernels. > > 4) work on some way to move the serial console and other fbdev drivers to > modules which are loaded as early as possible from the ramdisk, to further > reduce the size of the kernel. Great. > > 5) maybe start including some embedded kernels, depending on availability of > hardware and interest. As I said above, some embedded CPU really need different mm handling. BookE is an abomination, and fun with the 64 bit BookE implemetations if they come one day: they use different instruction encoding than standard PPC64. > > Anything else needed for the powerpc post-sarge kernels, please comment here. > As said above, I might try to push upstream patches to merge PreP, PowerPlus and MVME5100. But these are not really embedded boards, except for memory size (I have to run in 16MB, root on NFS, no disk, no swap, serial console only). I'm starting this week to resurrect my old bootloader which included an x86 emulator to initialize VGA boards by running their BIOS code. However, I'll still compile my kernels. So I don't care very much about what you put in the package. Regards, Gabriel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 09:58 +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > As I said above, some embedded CPU really need different mm handling. > BookE is an abomination, and fun with the 64 bit BookE implemetations > if they come one day: they use different instruction encoding than > standard PPC64. I think the whole idea of 64 bits bookE was trashed ... at least I hope so, I remember hearing something around those lines though. > As said above, I might try to push upstream patches to merge PreP, > PowerPlus and MVME5100. But these are not really embedded boards, > except for memory size (I have to run in 16MB, root on NFS, no disk, > no swap, serial console only). I'm starting this week to resurrect > my old bootloader which included an x86 emulator to initialize VGA > boards by running their BIOS code. Good :) > However, I'll still compile my kernels. So I don't care very much > about what you put in the package. > > Regards, > Gabriel > > -- Benjamin Herrenschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
Dropping debian-boot, as i don't think further discussion concerns them. On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 09:58:05AM +0200, Gabriel Paubert wrote: > > Plans on my part for 2.6 powerpc kernels are : > > > > 1) abandonement of the ppc32 power3 and power4 kernels in favour of ppc64 > > variants. > > Fine, I don't have any of these, but the rule becomes 64 bit processors > must run 64 bit kernels looks sane. Yep. current ppc32 power3/4 kernels don't even get build-tested it seems, as 2.6.11 was broken on them out of the box :) > > 2) migration to a common and single kernel package for all arches. > > What do you mean? Single source package building all the kernel of a given version. See what i did for the 2.4.27 kernel, it now builds kernels for apus, nubus, and the standard powerpc stuff. > Some PPC variants are so fundamentally incompatible that a single > kernel is impossible (completely different MMU). So you mean putting > several kernel images in a single debian package? no, just putting them in the same source package, so making the building of upgraded kernel for security or bugfix reason less of a headache. All fixes in 2.6 currently go into kernel-source-2.6.11 anyway. The current aim is to distinguish in a given kernel version, between arches, subarches (which need individual kernel patches) and flavours (which need incompatible config options, like powerpc/power3/power4 and smp/non-smp). > OTOH, I'd like to see PowerPlus and MVME5100 being considered > as PreP and not specific. I don't have MVME5100 but 2[467]00 series, > the only real difference is the memory map at boot. My bootloader > actually remaps my board to look like an MVME5100 because it > gives more room to map the VME bus and nobody needs 1GB of PCI > I/O space. Would be nice, currently the debian kernels produce only the plain toplevel vmlinux, and the mkvmlinuz tool is used to take the object files in arch/ppc/boot and create the needed images, currently pmac, coff, chrp (which is chrp-rs6k), prep and ppcbug, if i am not mistaken. Adding support for the above would only be a matter of adding the needed code to the mkvmlinuz shell script, which is invoked cleanly at install time. Patches against mkvmlinuz for PowerPlus and MVME5100 are welcome, as are bug reports against the 2.6.11 and beyond kernel packages to fix the config options needed for those arches. > > 3) forward porting of the above mentioned patches and inclusion in the > > main > > 2.6 kernels. > > > > 4) work on some way to move the serial console and other fbdev drivers to > > modules which are loaded as early as possible from the ramdisk, to further > > reduce the size of the kernel. > > Great. > > > > > 5) maybe start including some embedded kernels, depending on availability > > of > > hardware and interest. > > As I said above, some embedded CPU really need different mm handling. > BookE is an abomination, and fun with the 64 bit BookE implemetations > if they come one day: they use different instruction encoding than > standard PPC64. So, they just need a different kernel config, and maybe a couple of patches to be merged, and will produce a separate kernel-image file. > > Anything else needed for the powerpc post-sarge kernels, please comment > > here. > > As said above, I might try to push upstream patches to merge PreP, > PowerPlus and MVME5100. But these are not really embedded boards, > except for memory size (I have to run in 16MB, root on NFS, no disk, > no swap, serial console only). I'm starting this week to resurrect > my old bootloader which included an x86 emulator to initialize VGA > boards by running their BIOS code. Ok, patches welcome. My motorola powerstack II is also broken in 2.6.11, but i am hunting that stuff. > However, I'll still compile my kernels. So I don't care very much > about what you put in the package. The idea is that you would then have a debian-installer image, so you can netboot it and do the installation, and then if need be, recompile your own kernel. Custom d-i images are more difficult than in the past, but i guess you probably just debootstrap the disks or upgrade from older versions. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:41:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Hello, > > It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release candidates > are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the bugs > and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which will > not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due to the > longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel. > > I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and give them > over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who will be > handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and beyond > kernels. > > I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting their > maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team anyway, > and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a small change. Is there any need to oprphan them, aren't they maintained by the kernel team? Though you are the only person on the team who does ppc stuff IIRC, so maybey it does make sense. -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 03:15:00PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:41:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Hello, > > > > It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release candidates > > are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the bugs > > and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which will > > not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due to the > > longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel. > > > > I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and give > > them > > over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who will be > > handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and beyond > > kernels. > > > > I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting > > their > > maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team anyway, > > and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a small > > change. > > Is there any need to oprphan them, aren't they maintained by the kernel team? > Though you are the only person on the team who does ppc stuff IIRC, so > maybey it does make sense. Yep, it is more a flag to invite someone to take over. I believe that there is not really much need to do any special work, the most difficult thing would be : 1) monitor the kernel-source uploads so that you know when to build. => this is a generic problem, and we should maybe have some process in place to streamline this, and some framework to follow this. I believe that failure to handle this correctly is the number one reason for the huge d-i delays joeyh complained about, but as there doesn't seem to be any will to fix the technical problem, i don't want to get involved in this anymore. 2) notice that a kernel-source upgrade broke a particular arch and provide feedback. This is of two kinds, either added config options, and here again we need a process, or a kernel-source patch which breaks an existing arch patch. The rest is just bumping the changelog entry and doing the build. The only part which can't really be automated is the signing of the packages, altough ideally the packages should be feed to the autobuilders. The sarge team didn't want to take the time to streamline this process and make it all easier in the future, so afeared where they of the delay this will cause, so i wash my hands of this and let them enjoy the mess they will get, and deservedly. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:03:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 03:15:00PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:41:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release > > > candidates > > > are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the > > > bugs > > > and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which > > > will > > > not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due to > > > the > > > longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel. > > > > > > I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and give > > > them > > > over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who will > > > be > > > handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and beyond > > > kernels. > > > > > > I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting > > > their > > > maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team > > > anyway, > > > and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a small > > > change. > > > > Is there any need to oprphan them, aren't they maintained by the kernel > > team? > > Though you are the only person on the team who does ppc stuff IIRC, so > > maybey it does make sense. > > Yep, it is more a flag to invite someone to take over. I believe that there is > not really much need to do any special work, the most difficult thing would be > : > > 1) monitor the kernel-source uploads so that you know when to build. > => this is a generic problem, and we should maybe have some process in place > to streamline this, and some framework to follow this. I believe that > failure to handle this correctly is the number one reason for the huge d-i > delays joeyh complained about, but as there doesn't seem to be any will to > fix the technical problem, i don't want to get involved in this anymore. > > 2) notice that a kernel-source upgrade broke a particular arch and provide > feedback. This is of two kinds, either added config options, and here again > we need a process, or a kernel-source patch which breaks an existing arch > patch. > > The rest is just bumping the changelog entry and doing the build. The only > part which can't really be automated is the signing of the packages, altough > ideally the packages should be feed to the autobuilders. The sarge team didn't > want to take the time to streamline this process and make it all easier in the > future, so afeared where they of the delay this will cause, so i wash my hands > of this and let them enjoy the mess they will get, and deservedly. Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running a build and watching bugs, then whoever updates kernel-source could do the ppc build. That is assuming someone like yourself who knows a bit more about ppc is available for consultation of problems arise. -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 09:03:01AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 03:15:00PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 08:41:58AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release > > > > candidates > > > > are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the > > > > bugs > > > > and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which > > > > will > > > > not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due > > > > to the > > > > longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel. > > > > > > > > I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and > > > > give them > > > > over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who > > > > will be > > > > handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and beyond > > > > kernels. > > > > > > > > I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting > > > > their > > > > maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team > > > > anyway, > > > > and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a small > > > > change. > > > > > > Is there any need to oprphan them, aren't they maintained by the kernel > > > team? > > > Though you are the only person on the team who does ppc stuff IIRC, so > > > maybey it does make sense. > > > > Yep, it is more a flag to invite someone to take over. I believe that there > > is > > not really much need to do any special work, the most difficult thing would > > be > > : > > > > 1) monitor the kernel-source uploads so that you know when to build. > > => this is a generic problem, and we should maybe have some process in > > place > > to streamline this, and some framework to follow this. I believe that > > failure to handle this correctly is the number one reason for the huge d-i > > delays joeyh complained about, but as there doesn't seem to be any will to > > fix the technical problem, i don't want to get involved in this anymore. > > > > 2) notice that a kernel-source upgrade broke a particular arch and provide > > feedback. This is of two kinds, either added config options, and here > > again > > we need a process, or a kernel-source patch which breaks an existing arch > > patch. > > > > The rest is just bumping the changelog entry and doing the build. The only > > part which can't really be automated is the signing of the packages, altough > > ideally the packages should be feed to the autobuilders. The sarge team > > didn't > > want to take the time to streamline this process and make it all easier in > > the > > future, so afeared where they of the delay this will cause, so i wash my > > hands > > of this and let them enjoy the mess they will get, and deservedly. > > Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build > should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running > a build and watching bugs, then whoever updates kernel-source could do > the ppc build. That is assuming someone like yourself who knows a bit > more about ppc is available for consultation of problems arise. There should. At least on ppc, i offered a pegasos machine to the debian-admins and it got rejected because there really wasn't need, so ... Many folk have got free pegasos ppc hardware from genesi, including Christoph and Jens, so there should be no lack of such boards. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
Hello, Le Lundi, 4 Avril 2005 08.41, Sven Luther a écrit : > Hello, > > It seems as the 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 kernels which are sarge release candidates > are now frozen, and will be part of sarge as is, complete with all the bugs > and problems present in them, and maybe even some security issues which > will not be fixed in d-i, but only in testing/stable-security-updates, due > to the longish time needed for d-i to regenerate their kernel. > > I thus announce my intentions to stop any work on those kernels, and give > them over to the sarge security team and/or any other group of people who > will be handling stable kernels, and focus my attention on the 2.6.11 and > beyond kernels. > > I will shortly orphan those packages, but will not do an upload setting > their maintainers to q-a, as they should be maintained by the kernel-team > anyway, and i will not waste 24+ hours of build and bandwidth for such a > small change. > > 2.4 series will be dropped post sarge, at least as far as powerpc is > concerned, so it would be nice to have someone with interest in the > remaining 2.4-needing subarches to show up and propose patches for 2.6. > These are : > > o oldworld miboot refuses to work with 2.6 for some obscure reason, i got > it working three times in oldebourg, but it stopped working mysteriously, > and no positive report since then. well, miboot is non-free and currently > non-distributable anyway, so ... Maybe the quik-from-a-floppy work will > help us there. > > o apus kernels. There is some 2.6 work, which i will apply as a subarch > patch to 2.6 kernels in the future, and build. I have no apus box at the > moment though (altough i am getting a A(3|)000, but needs a powerup card > for it still. > > o nubus kernels. Those have been added to 2.4.27 kernels, but i have got > no report of their working or not. I heard there was willingness to work on > 2.6 nubus kernels, and i would greatly appreciate getting patches for them, > and people with interest for testing. > > All the other cases will work fine with 2.6 kernels, and there should be no > problem in dropping 2.4 for them. Anyone still running 2.4 kernels on > powerpc except for the three above cases needs to think it over seriously, > given the over one year now abandonement of upstream linuxppc developer of > the 2.4 branch. > > Plans on my part for 2.6 powerpc kernels are : > > 1) abandonement of the ppc32 power3 and power4 kernels in favour of ppc64 > variants. > > 2) migration to a common and single kernel package for all arches. > > 3) forward porting of the above mentioned patches and inclusion in the > main 2.6 kernels. > > 4) work on some way to move the serial console and other fbdev drivers to > modules which are loaded as early as possible from the ramdisk, to > further reduce the size of the kernel. > > 5) maybe start including some embedded kernels, depending on availability > of hardware and interest. > > Anything else needed for the powerpc post-sarge kernels, please comment > here. I'm just a debian-powerpc user... But I compile my kernel myself, and I can just tell you: KEEP ON THE GOOD WORK ! Thanks > > Friendly, > > Sven Luther Best Regards Guillaume
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
Sven Luther wrote: Hello, [..] Plans on my part for 2.6 powerpc kernels are : 1) abandonement of the ppc32 power3 and power4 kernels in favour of ppc64 variants. mkay, this looks bad to my eyes. Does this mean that there is no more support for these variants in upstream, also? I have a PowerBook G4, so I would like to still have a kernel for it :( I don't think I have enough time to maintain an unofficial package for this arch. Nor do I have the skills necessary to hack into the ppc kernel code. Is there any chance someone might convince you to still maintain this subarch? 2) migration to a common and single kernel package for all arches. Anything else needed for the powerpc post-sarge kernels, please comment here. Errr, can say once more :-) , please maintain also a powerpc G4 kernel! Friendly, Sven Luther -- Regards, EddyP === I had a favourite quote, but I forgot it. And it was insightful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Thu, Apr 07, 2005 at 12:13:31AM +0300, Eddy Petrisor wrote: > Sven Luther wrote: > >Hello, > > > > [..] > > >Plans on my part for 2.6 powerpc kernels are : > > > > 1) abandonement of the ppc32 power3 and power4 kernels in favour of ppc64 > > variants. > > > > mkay, this looks bad to my eyes. > Does this mean that there is no more support for these variants in > upstream, also? I have a PowerBook G4, so I would like to still have a > kernel for it :( No. This only means that for 64bit powerpc processors (IBM power3 and beyond, and G5), we will not build 32bit kernels anymore, since upstream developers have little interest in these, you should really be using 64bit kernels, and the only reason we have 32bit kernels for those in sarge is because we don't have a biarch powerpc toolchain and glibc. In any case, the powerpc (from 601 upto G4s, including a bunch of 'embedded' like cpus) subarch will remain for those who need it. > I don't think I have enough time to maintain an unofficial package for > this arch. Nor do I have the skills necessary to hack into the ppc > kernel code. > > Is there any chance someone might convince you to still maintain this > subarch? As you did misunderstood my intentions, i think this is a non-issue. > > 2) migration to a common and single kernel package for all arches. > > > > > >Anything else needed for the powerpc post-sarge kernels, please comment > >here. > > > > Errr, can say once more :-) , please maintain also a powerpc G4 kernel! There are currently 3 subarches in 2.6, powerpc, power3 and power4/G5, and their smp variants. powerpc will stay a 32bit kernel while power3/4/G5 will become 64bit kernels. So nothing to fear at all. /me has 4 production powerpc machines here as well as two older machines, so there is little chance i will drop support for them. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 02:44:31PM -0700, Michael wrote: Since I am starting to compile my own kernel, and you said "you should really be using 64bit kernels" does that mean that I should compile a 64-bit kernel on my ppc? I have the Dual 450's can they even support 64bits? Oh well ... no idea aboutyour dual 450's, but 64bit enabled desktop powerpc cpus are : IBM power3/power4/power5 based cpus. PPC970 aka G5 cpus. I believe these are found only in IBM rs6k power3 and beyond lines, pservers, iservers, blade thingies and so on, and for apple in the powermac G5, Xserver G5 and Imac G5. I don't think the Dual 450 falls into this category, but i may be wrong ? My guess is that this is a dual 450MHz G4 powermac, right ? These are 32bit and use the plain powerpc subarch, but you should use the powerpc-smp one. And no, there should not be any sane reason for you compiling your own kernels, please don't do it :) Friendly, Sven Luther Yes Sven you are not wrong, This is indeed an Apple Macintosh G4, so thankyou for the clarification. And I do wish I didn't have to compile my own kernel, but it seems the only solution to getting graphic support so I can have a working X installation. The latest post vinai sent me he indicated that at some point the Debian kernel lost support for the Rage 128 pro, but he didn't notice because he always compiled his own. Thanks for the heads up on the smp thing --Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:00:52PM -0700, Michael wrote: > Yes Sven you are not wrong, This is indeed an Apple Macintosh G4, so > thankyou for the clarification. And I do wish I didn't have to compile > my own kernel, but it seems the only solution to getting graphic No, there you are wrong. > support so I can have a working X installation. The latest post vinai > sent me he indicated that at some point the Debian kernel lost support > for the Rage 128 pro, but he didn't notice because he always compiled > his own. If there is a problem with the debian kernel, i much expect that a bug has been filled about it, and we can search together for the solution and fix it. If people go building their own kernel at the first problem they encounter, and don't fill bug reports, how do you expect to get things fixed ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 07:00:52PM -0700, Michael wrote: Yes Sven you are not wrong, This is indeed an Apple Macintosh G4, so thankyou for the clarification. And I do wish I didn't have to compile my own kernel, but it seems the only solution to getting graphic No, there you are wrong. support so I can have a working X installation. The latest post vinai sent me he indicated that at some point the Debian kernel lost support for the Rage 128 pro, but he didn't notice because he always compiled his own. If there is a problem with the debian kernel, i much expect that a bug has been filled about it, and we can search together for the solution and fix it. If people go building their own kernel at the first problem they encounter, and don't fill bug reports, how do you expect to get things fixed ? Friendly, Sven Luther Ok, I stand corrected. I will work with you on this. The 2.6.8 powerpc kernel-image that I downloaded and installed would not boot a display unless the kernel argument video=ofonly was passed. I did compile the Debian 2.6.11 tree and that also would not boot the display without video=ofonly. I have never tried OFfb (I don't think, or even know if video=offb is a viable option) But until I hear back from you I am going to try and compile the upstream 2.6.12-rc2 kernel that Ben asked us about. I have the .config file I ran for the debian kernel compilation if you are interested to see if I configured it wrong. One thing I did NOT however do is apply any patches from the kernel-patches folder that was also installed, still new to this compiling kernel thing. Hope that I will be able to help since this is all a learning experience for me, and some of it is just "clicking" faster than others. However one thing sticks out to me, are we still talking about Sarge, as noted in the Subject, because I am unning the unstable tree, which I was told is Sid. I did run Sarge for a while with no success at the video that is still plaguing me. --Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 10:29:43PM -0700, Michael wrote: > Ok, I stand corrected. I will work with you on this. The 2.6.8 powerpc > kernel-image that I downloaded and installed would not boot a display > unless the kernel argument video=ofonly was passed. I did compile the > Debian 2.6.11 tree and that also would not boot the display without > video=ofonly. I have never tried OFfb (I don't think, or even know if I am not familiar with of stuff, could you compile a kernel with activated verbose output from rage128fb or hatever it is called ? > video=offb is a viable option) But until I hear back from you I am > going to try and compile the upstream 2.6.12-rc2 kernel that Ben asked Ok, if this solves it, we can backport the fix. Notice that there is a prebuilt 2.6.11 in the archive since yesterday. It seemed to me that the rage related fixes where X/DRI related, not fbdev. > us about. I have the .config file I ran for the debian kernel > compilation if you are interested to see if I configured it wrong. One Euh, yes. > thing I did NOT however do is apply any patches from the kernel-patches > folder that was also installed, still new to this compiling kernel thing. If you used kernel-source-2.6.11, then it is ok, if you used upstream, you can probably ignore the debian patches for now. > Hope that I will be able to help since this is all a learning experience > for me, and some of it is just "clicking" faster than others. > However one thing sticks out to me, are we still talking about Sarge, as > noted in the Subject, because I am unning the unstable tree, which I > was told is Sid. I did run Sarge for a while with no success at the > video that is still plaguing me. You can run sarge with the unstable kernel. I would even recomend it, and provide a backport of the newest kernels and d-i as soon as sarge is out. There may be chance of a 2.6.8 backport of the fix, if we find it. Benh, any comment on this ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:12:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote: [snip] > > Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build > > should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running > > a build and watching bugs, then whoever updates kernel-source could do > > the ppc build. That is assuming someone like yourself who knows a bit > > more about ppc is available for consultation of problems arise. > > There should. At least on ppc, i offered a pegasos machine to the > debian-admins and it got rejected because there really wasn't need, so ... > > Many folk have got free pegasos ppc hardware from genesi, including Christoph > and Jens, so there should be no lack of such boards. Ok, I'll try and be a little more specific. Do you know of any machines that are available to kernel team members, or more generally debian developers, to do ppc builds? -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:12:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > [snip] > > > > Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build > > > should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running > > > a build and watching bugs, then whoever updates kernel-source could do > > > the ppc build. That is assuming someone like yourself who knows a bit > > > more about ppc is available for consultation of problems arise. > > > > There should. At least on ppc, i offered a pegasos machine to the > > debian-admins and it got rejected because there really wasn't need, so ... > > > > Many folk have got free pegasos ppc hardware from genesi, including > > Christoph > > and Jens, so there should be no lack of such boards. > > Ok, I'll try and be a little more specific. Do you know of any > machines that are available to kernel team members, or more > generally debian developers, to do ppc builds? http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi There is bruckner, but i wouldn't recomend it, as it is a motorola powerstack if i am not wrong, and rather slow and old, There is malo and voltaire which are dual-G4 powermac (500MHz), and i believe one of the laters should do it. They are developer only though, which may be a problem for certain of the kernel team members who are not yet debian developers. I may be able to provide a pegasos box to whoever decides to take over this burden, but can't promise anything. Do you volunteer for that ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0900, Horms wrote: > Ok, I'll try and be a little more specific. Do you know of any > machines that are available to kernel team members, or more > generally debian developers, to do ppc builds? trick.rz.uni-augsburg.de, a power5 machine, is open on request. Bastian -- Leave bigotry in your quarters; there's no room for it on the bridge. -- Kirk, "Balance of Terror", stardate 1709.2 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 10:32:01AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > Ok, I'll try and be a little more specific. Do you know of any > > machines that are available to kernel team members, or more > > generally debian developers, to do ppc builds? > > trick.rz.uni-augsburg.de, a power5 machine, is open on request. > > Bastian Yeah, but as you told me, we can't really use it to build package that we will upload to the archive, since we don't control it. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:12:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build > > > > should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running > > > > a build and watching bugs, then whoever updates kernel-source could do > > > > the ppc build. That is assuming someone like yourself who knows a bit > > > > more about ppc is available for consultation of problems arise. > > > > > > There should. At least on ppc, i offered a pegasos machine to the > > > debian-admins and it got rejected because there really wasn't need, so ... > > > > > > Many folk have got free pegasos ppc hardware from genesi, including > > > Christoph > > > and Jens, so there should be no lack of such boards. > > > > Ok, I'll try and be a little more specific. Do you know of any > > machines that are available to kernel team members, or more > > generally debian developers, to do ppc builds? > > http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi > > There is bruckner, but i wouldn't recomend it, as it is a motorola > powerstack if i am not wrong, and rather slow and old, There is malo and > voltaire which are dual-G4 powermac (500MHz), and i believe one of the > laters should do it. They are developer only though, which may be a problem > for certain of the kernel team members who are not yet debian developers. > > I may be able to provide a pegasos box to whoever decides to take over this > burden, but can't promise anything. Do you volunteer for that ? I am happy to build packages and track down patches if no one else wants to. But someone a little more involved in powerpc development (or at least uses powerpc) might be better. -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:38:31PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > I may be able to provide a pegasos box to whoever decides to take over > > this > > burden, but can't promise anything. Do you volunteer for that ? > > I am happy to build packages and track down patches if no one else wants to. > But someone a little more involved in powerpc development (or at least > uses powerpc) might be better. Yep, altough as far as patches are concerned, these are stable kernels, so only normal security stuff is supposed to go in, and this we do anyway. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 06:59:09AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:38:31PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > I may be able to provide a pegasos box to whoever decides to take over > > > this > > > burden, but can't promise anything. Do you volunteer for that ? > > > > I am happy to build packages and track down patches if no one else wants to. > > But someone a little more involved in powerpc development (or at least > > uses powerpc) might be better. > > Yep, altough as far as patches are concerned, these are stable kernels, so > only normal security stuff is supposed to go in, and this we do anyway. Understood -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 04:11:54PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 06:59:09AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:38:31PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > I may be able to provide a pegasos box to whoever decides to take > > > > over this > > > > burden, but can't promise anything. Do you volunteer for that ? > > > > > > I am happy to build packages and track down patches if no one else wants > > > to. > > > But someone a little more involved in powerpc development (or at least > > > uses powerpc) might be better. > > > > Yep, altough as far as patches are concerned, these are stable kernels, so > > only normal security stuff is supposed to go in, and this we do anyway. > > Understood As for building 2.4.27 powerpc kernels : sudo apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27 svn export .../trunk/kernel-2.4/powerpc/kernel-patch-powerpc-2.4.27 /path/to/kernel-patch-powerpc-2.4.27 cd /path/to/kernel-patch-powerpc-2.4.27 sudo apt-get build-dep kernel-patch-powerpc-2.4.27 dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc For modifications, the configs are in config, and the patches in patch. I would still be willing to do these parts, i am only not interested in triggereing the builds signing and uploading, which is stuff which should be automated. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:12:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build > > > > should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running > > > > a build and watching bugs, then whoever updates kernel-source could do > > > > the ppc build. That is assuming someone like yourself who knows a bit > > > > more about ppc is available for consultation of problems arise. > > > > > > There should. At least on ppc, i offered a pegasos machine to the > > > debian-admins and it got rejected because there really wasn't need, so ... > > > > > > Many folk have got free pegasos ppc hardware from genesi, including > > > Christoph > > > and Jens, so there should be no lack of such boards. > > > > Ok, I'll try and be a little more specific. Do you know of any > > machines that are available to kernel team members, or more > > generally debian developers, to do ppc builds? > > http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi > > There is bruckner, but i wouldn't recomend it, as it is a motorola > powerstack if i am not wrong, and rather slow and old, There is malo and > voltaire which are dual-G4 powermac (500MHz), and i believe one of the > laters should do it. They are developer only though, which may be a problem > for certain of the kernel team members who are not yet debian developers. > > I may be able to provide a pegasos box to whoever decides to take over this > burden, but can't promise anything. Do you volunteer for that ? It seems that no one else is jumping at this idea, so yes, I guess so. Right now I'd like to build from kernel-tree 2.4.27-10, thanks for your instructions on how to do that, very much appreciated. I looked at malo and voltaire, both seem to be busy, presumably acting as buildds, and there is also the problem of installing kernel-tree, as I don't have root. In short, if you could make a machine available that would be most excellent. SSH access would allow me to start the build ASAP. If you want to physically send hardware, thats ok too (though I am not sure where to put it), but lets talk about that later. -- Horms -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
Horms wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 01:53:28PM +0900, Horms wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 10:12:39AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2005 at 05:04:20PM +0900, Horms wrote: [snip] Are there debian machines that are suitable for doing such a build should the need arise? It seems that if it is just a matter of running a build and watching bugs, then whoever updates kernel-source could do the ppc build. That is assuming someone like yourself who knows a bit more about ppc is available for consultation of problems arise. There should. At least on ppc, i offered a pegasos machine to the debian-admins and it got rejected because there really wasn't need, so ... Many folk have got free pegasos ppc hardware from genesi, including Christoph and Jens, so there should be no lack of such boards. Ok, I'll try and be a little more specific. Do you know of any machines that are available to kernel team members, or more generally debian developers, to do ppc builds? http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi There is bruckner, but i wouldn't recomend it, as it is a motorola powerstack if i am not wrong, and rather slow and old, There is malo and voltaire which are dual-G4 powermac (500MHz), and i believe one of the laters should do it. They are developer only though, which may be a problem for certain of the kernel team members who are not yet debian developers. I may be able to provide a pegasos box to whoever decides to take over this burden, but can't promise anything. Do you volunteer for that ? It seems that no one else is jumping at this idea, so yes, I guess so. Right now I'd like to build from kernel-tree 2.4.27-10, thanks for your instructions on how to do that, very much appreciated. I looked at malo and voltaire, both seem to be busy, presumably acting as buildds, and there is also the problem of installing kernel-tree, as I don't have root. In short, if you could make a machine available that would be most excellent. SSH access would allow me to start the build ASAP. If you want to physically send hardware, thats ok too (though I am not sure where to put it), but lets talk about that later. I hate to be the one to ask a stupid question, if indeed it is stupid, but will everrything in Sarge work with a 2.4 kernel? I remember when I did my first dist upgrade to Sarge, I was still setting up my system for multi-boot, and after the upgrade when I ran ybin, it complained of the kernel being too old and as a result some values might be wrong, then at the next boot, linux was no longer bootable unless I manually did it from Open Firmware. Not even holding down option at boot would recognize it. I did the dist-upgrade from Woody so I was using the 2.4.18 kernel I think, so the 2.4.27 kernel may have different rresults I don't know, Just something to think about though. --Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 02:38:15PM +0900, Horms wrote: > On Fri, Apr 08, 2005 at 08:35:02AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > I looked at malo and voltaire, both seem to be busy, presumably > acting as buildds, and there is also the problem of installing > kernel-tree, as I don't have root. In short, if you could make a machine > available that would be most excellent. SSH access would allow > me to start the build ASAP. If you want to physically send hardware, > thats ok too (though I am not sure where to put it), but lets > talk about that later. I only have the boxes here at home, and i am about to go out for two weeks, so not able to do the needed firewall fiddling needed to open you an account. When i come back, i will try to go shoping for an IBM OpenServer and put it online somewhere, and maybe give you an account in a virtual machine, not sure though. I will see if i can get you a real machine instead, will be able to know about this next week. They are low profile micro-atx cases, very silent, and have both serial console and dual ethernet port, so i am sure you will find a use for them. But i can promise nothing. More on this in two weeks. If you could get me your email, shipping address and phone number, this would be really nice. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sarge kernel frozen (2.4.27 and 2.6.8), and plans for post-sarge powerpc kernels.
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 02:38:15PM +0900, Horms wrote: > I looked at malo and voltaire, both seem to be busy, presumably > acting as buildds, and there is also the problem of installing > kernel-tree, as I don't have root. In short, if you could make a machine > available that would be most excellent. SSH access would allow > me to start the build ASAP. If you want to physically send hardware, > thats ok too (though I am not sure where to put it), but lets > talk about that later. Ok, i have a Pegasos machine for you. The CD bay door is broken though, but apart from that it should be a complete systeme with G4 1GHz, 256MB of ram, combo drive, 40GB harddisk, and ati radeon SE 9200 graphic card. All in a really silent low profile micro-atx case. So, where do you live, and how do i get this machine to you ? Where do you live ? Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sarge on a Dual G5??
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:44:34PM -0500, Charles Read wrote: > Hey crew! > > Thinking about installing Sarge on a Dual 2Ghz PowerMac G5, is that > possible via the ppc release? Yes. If it uses the 970Fx, please use the daily builds in expert mode, and make sure you chose sid as mirror. After the partman partitioning step, go to choose mirror again, and choose sarge for the installed system. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Japanese Input on Sarge/KDE
Am Sonntag, 13. Februar 2005 23.56 schrieb Dylan Beaudette: > Hi everyone. > > In the past I have been able to get a working japaese input system with > canna-server and kinput2. > > i start the input environment with a little script: > export LANG=ja_JP > kinput2 -xim -kinput -canna & > uxterm& > I cannot comment on Japanese. But as my wife is from Korea we often do a smilar trick for e.g. a konquerer. My scripts looks like: #! /bin/bash export [EMAIL PROTECTED] export LC_CTYPE=ko_KR.eucKR export LANG=ko_KR.eucKR ami & kmail > from the uxterm i can start typing in japanese by first pressing > "shift+space". in the past any KDE application started from this uxterm > would allow me to input japanes into a text field by first pressing > "shift+space"... A couple of months ago this stopped working. Could there > be something that has changed since then? > > Also, i was advised to add the following to my .xinitrc: > export XMODIFIERS='@im=kinput2 > however i am not really sure what this is doing.. It tells the X server that it should use kinput2 as its Input Manager. However, if you are using KDE your .xinitrc will not be executed. So in my case I added the corresponding entry for AMI in my script. Hope that helps. Best regards -- Niklaus Giger Wieshoschet 6 CH-8753 Mollis Tel. ++41 55 612 20 54 (privat) Tel. ++41 55 618 64 68 (Geschäft)
Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 15:20 -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote:
>
> I've been working with what I thought was Sarge. I noticed today
> that I'm actually
> pulling down packages from unstable (Sid). How do I ensure that I am
> always using
> Sarge, though at times there might be something in Sid that I might
> want to pull down
> and try out.
>
> In /etc/apt/apt.conf:
>
> APT
> {
> Default-Release "testing";
> };
>
>
> This should make sure that I only get from testing aka Sarge, yes ?
Yes, but it can't do that for packages that are only available in sid,
e.g.
apt-cache policy is your friend.
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Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:20:57PM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote:
> 'allo,
>
> I've been working with what I thought was Sarge. I noticed today
> that I'm actually
> pulling down packages from unstable (Sid). How do I ensure that I am
> always using
> Sarge, though at times there might be something in Sid that I might
> want to pull down
> and try out.
>
> In /etc/apt/apt.conf:
>
> APT
> {
> Default-Release "testing";
> };
>
>
> This should make sure that I only get from testing aka Sarge, yes ?
It looks like, yes ... at least for me: But did you actually write to
your apt sources list the Debian locations for sarge, and only those
for sarge? Or do you have the locations for unstable in there, too?
I'm asking because I can't understand how one could install *by
accident* packages from one branch while actually wanting pulled in
those from another one.
HTH
Best Regards
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Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
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Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
You have certainly both testing and unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list. Please verify this. If this is the case and you want to stay with sarge (testing) only, I propose you to remove the lines for unstable (or sid) from your /etc/apt/sources.list. That means that from now on you would not install packages from unstable. After a few days, or a few weeks, as all your unstable packages have been propagated into testing in Debian distribution, you will find yourself using only testing packages. HTH, -- Eugen Dedu Assistant Professor / Maître de conférences http://lifc.univ-fcomte.fr/~dedu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Friday 01 April 2005 09:28, Eugen Dedu wrote: > If this is the case and you want to stay with sarge (testing) only, I > propose you to remove the lines for unstable (or sid) from your > /etc/apt/sources.list. That means that from now on you would not > install packages from unstable. After a few days, or a few weeks, as > all your unstable packages have been propagated into testing in Debian > distribution, you will find yourself using only testing packages. Agreed: just replace "sid" or "unstable" with "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list I don't think sarge will catch up with sid in all areas within a few weeks (though I could be wrong), but if everything works now, there's no real reason to worry about that. -- Lee. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Mar 31, 2005 4:49 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:20:57PM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote:
> > 'allo,
> >
> > I've been working with what I thought was Sarge. I noticed today
> > that I'm actually
> > pulling down packages from unstable (Sid). How do I ensure that I am
> > always using
> > Sarge, though at times there might be something in Sid that I might
> > want to pull down
> > and try out.
> >
> > In /etc/apt/apt.conf:
> >
> > APT
> > {
> > Default-Release "testing";
> > };
> >
> >
> > This should make sure that I only get from testing aka Sarge, yes ?
>
> It looks like, yes ... at least for me: But did you actually write to
> your apt sources list the Debian locations for sarge, and only those
> for sarge? Or do you have the locations for unstable in there, too?
>
I have both testing and unstable in there. I was under the impression
that I could
have both in there, and with the default set to testing in
/etc/apt/apt.conf, I could then
have an unstable package installed by giving the '-t' option I believe
to apt-get.
Seems like I was mistaken. I'm pretty sure I picked this up from one
of the FAQs
or the manuals.
I'll comment out the unstable locations, and redo the update for
apt-get, and then
see what happens as has been suggested in one of the other emails.
Thank you for the help and pointers.
cheers,
mehul
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Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:20:53AM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote:
> On Mar 31, 2005 4:49 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:20:57PM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote:
> > > 'allo,
> > >
> > > I've been working with what I thought was Sarge. I noticed today
> > > that I'm actually
> > > pulling down packages from unstable (Sid). How do I ensure that I am
> > > always using
"always" isn't possible any more once you have installed a package
from unstable, if I'm not mistaken .. see below ...
> > > Sarge, though at times there might be something in Sid that I might
> > > want to pull down
> > > and try out.
> > >
> > > In /etc/apt/apt.conf:
> > >
> > > APT
> > > {
> > > Default-Release "testing";
> > > };
> > >
> > >
> > > This should make sure that I only get from testing aka Sarge, yes ?
> >
> > It looks like, yes ... at least for me: But did you actually write to
> > your apt sources list the Debian locations for sarge, and only those
> > for sarge? Or do you have the locations for unstable in there, too?
> >
>
> I have both testing and unstable in there. I was under the impression
> that I could
> have both in there, and with the default set to testing in
> /etc/apt/apt.conf, I could then
> have an unstable package installed by giving the '-t' option I believe
> to apt-get.
That's actually what I thought, too .. But how then did you pull in
packages from unstable that you did not want? If you have 'testing'
set as your default branch in apt.conf, and if you then install a
package with the -t option from unstable, you might -- for dependency
reasons -- get quite a few more than you actually wanted via the -t
install ..
I still don't understand the problem, because the more packages you
install from unstable, the more stuff you'll have from the latter
branch, due to dependency reasons, IINM. And this means, that with an
"apt-get dist-upgrade" you also upgrade the packages you installed
from unstable to their latest version from *unstable* .. IINM ...
I don't see
1:
how you would be able to prevent that, and
2:
why you would wonder that this happens: This is the consequence of
installing packages from unstable ... Or that's at least how I
understand the apt system ... Could someone please correct me if I'm
wrong in that?
> Seems like I was mistaken. I'm pretty sure I picked this up from one
> of the FAQs
> or the manuals.
I think you understood the docs correctly ... But my impression now is
that you wonder about the consequences of your installs from
unstable?? Or what did I miss ... :)
>
>
> I'll comment out the unstable locations, and redo the update for
> apt-get, and then
> see what happens as has been suggested in one of the other emails.
>
> Thank you for the help and pointers.
You're welcome. But I'm not sure whether I was of such a great help .. :)
Regards
Wolfgang
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Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Apr 1, 2005 4:40 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 10:20:53AM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote: > > On Mar 31, 2005 4:49 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 03:20:57PM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote: > > > > 'allo, > > > > > > > > I've been working with what I thought was Sarge. I noticed today > > > > that I'm actually > > > > pulling down packages from unstable (Sid). How do I ensure that I am > > > > always using > > "always" isn't possible any more once you have installed a package > from unstable, if I'm not mistaken .. see below ... > > You are correct, based on what I've read in this thread. > > I still don't understand the problem, because the more packages you > install from unstable, the more stuff you'll have from the latter > branch, due to dependency reasons, IINM. And this means, that with an > "apt-get dist-upgrade" you also upgrade the packages you installed > from unstable to their latest version from *unstable* .. IINM ... > And that is actually what is happening. And upon seeing that, I did not realise that it was a consequence of my having installed a package from unstable. > I don't see > 1: > how you would be able to prevent that, and I dont see how to prevent that either, unless I can use apt prefrences as another poster pointed out. I'll be looking into that this weekend hopefully. > > I think you understood the docs correctly ... But my impression now is > that you wonder about the consequences of your installs from > unstable?? Or what did I miss ... :) > You didn't miss anything. I just never realised the consequences of my actions. :) I completely missed out on the dependencies having to come from unstable as well as the package I want to install. And for the life of me, I can't remember what package it was that I installed from unstable. Is there a way to tell which package was installed from unstable ? > > > > Thank you for the help and pointers. > > You're welcome. But I'm not sure whether I was of such a great help .. :) > Don't sell yourself short :) It was helpful to be slapped on the head and told "Hey! are you stupid or what ? You got what you asked for, why are you complaining about it ? It is doing exactly what you told it to do !!" :) cheers, mehul -- Mehul N. Sanghvi email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
Lee Braiden wrote: On Friday 01 April 2005 09:28, Eugen Dedu wrote: If this is the case and you want to stay with sarge (testing) only, I propose you to remove the lines for unstable (or sid) from your /etc/apt/sources.list. That means that from now on you would not install packages from unstable. After a few days, or a few weeks, as all your unstable packages have been propagated into testing in Debian distribution, you will find yourself using only testing packages. Agreed: just replace "sid" or "unstable" with "testing" in your /etc/apt/sources.list If that would be _that_ easy... I don't think sarge will catch up with sid in all areas within a few weeks (though I could be wrong), but if everything works now, there's no real reason to worry about that. You might as well still "get" packages from unstable that will never reach sarge (see packages that are kept away from sarge with intentional rc bugs). Do you want to get back to sarge only packages? in that case: /etc/apt/preferences is your friend and Pin-Piority > 1000. Do you want to still be able to get package x from unstable while the rest are from sarge? Well, then /etc/apt/prferences and pinning are your friends. here is my preferences file: Package: dcgui-qt Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 800 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 600 Well, you can look for apt-pinning on the net for that. Warning: READ CAREFULLY! -- Regards, EddyP === I had a favourite quote, but I forgot it. And it was insightful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:56:15PM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote: > > > > I think you understood the docs correctly ... But my impression now is > > that you wonder about the consequences of your installs from > > unstable?? Or what did I miss ... :) > > > > You didn't miss anything. I just never realised the consequences of > my actions. :) > I completely missed out on the dependencies having to come from unstable as > well > as the package I want to install. And for the life of me, I can't > remember what package > it was that I installed from unstable. Is there a way to tell which > package was installed > from unstable ? Not that I knew of; but perhaps the following can give you a starting point for a better solution: ls -lt -c /var/lib/dpkg/info/ | grep list | less The command above gives you hopefully a list of packages you installed the last time, IINM. It won't tell you about which branch they were pulled from: But perhaps it might help remember the package you installed from unstable ... Sorry, but this seems to be a weak point on Debian, still: The, IINM, fact you don't have a precise history on what was installed when ... Good luck ... :) Nice weekend Wolfgang -- Wolfgang Pfeiffer http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Downgrading from Sid to Sarge ?
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 04:56:15PM -0500, Mehul Sanghvi wrote: > as the package I want to install. And for the life of me, I can't > remember what package > it was that I installed from unstable. Is there a way to tell which > package was installed > from unstable ? apt-show-versions can be used for this. -- Mike Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Powerbook 12 Debian Sarge Sleep
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 12:54:26AM +0200, Federico 'Pain' Pistono wrote: > Hi all, > I successfully installed Debian GNU/Linux sarge in my powerboook 12" > aluminium, using the netinstaller. > I do have a doubt, though. Google told me that there is no way still to make > the 3dacceleration to work (grrr bad nvidia!), as well as the airport > extreme; but I am still doubtful about the sleep function. > > I found this: > http://www.formorer.de/view.php/page/Suspend%20to%20RAM > Did anybody try it? Do you think that I sould just recompilre the patched > kernel and it'll work? With http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/kernel/2.6.11.6-agx0.diff and kernel 2.6.11.X you'll be able to suspend to disk. No suspend to ram due to the nVidia Chip. Cheers, -- Guido signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Powerbook 12 Debian Sarge Sleep
* Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050518 12:27]: > With > http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~agx/linux-ppc/kernel/2.6.11.6-agx0.diff > and kernel 2.6.11.X you'll be able to suspend to disk. No suspend to ram > due to the nVidia Chip. Thanks for the hint, seems to work perfectly on my new iBook, too. Yours sincerely, Alexander -- http://learn.to/quote/ http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Getting Flash support on Sarge
yeah good luck :) I gave up trying to get flash to run reliably on my pismo a while back. At this point in time I am using the libflash-mozplugin which seems to work about 30% of the time and crashes mozilla about 30% with no result for the balance. I can't exactly recommend it. The return of activity to the project is a good thing, ppc linux suffers badly in this area. Nathan Thrower wrote: I want to get a Flash plugin to run under Sarge. I downloaded the source for GPLFlash 0.4.13, but upon running ./configure I'm eventually met with the error "configure: error: *** GPLFlash requires libjpeg." I Googled for libjpeg, but all I found was jpeg-6b -- which was a few years old. Regardless, I downloaded the source and compiled it, but I still get the same error when trying to ./configure GPLFlash. I'm running Debian Sarge with the stock kernel on an Apple PowerBook G3 500 MHz 'Pismo'. -- David Howe http://www.qednet.biz | | | Your mouse has moved. | | Windows must be restarted for the change to take effect. | | | | | | ++| | | OK || | ++| +---+ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting Flash support on Sarge
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:34:52AM -0400, Nathan Thrower wrote: > I want to get a Flash plugin to run under Sarge. I downloaded the source for > GPLFlash 0.4.13, but upon running ./configure I'm eventually met with the > error "configure: error: *** GPLFlash requires libjpeg." I Googled for > libjpeg, but all I found was jpeg-6b -- which was a few years old. > Regardless, I downloaded the source and compiled it, but I still get the > same error when trying to ./configure GPLFlash. I'm running Debian Sarge > with the stock kernel on an Apple PowerBook G3 500 MHz 'Pismo'. apt-get install swf-player dave... -- David Schleef Big Kitten LLC (http://www.bigkitten.com/) -- data acquisition on Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting Flash support on Sarge
On 6/6/05, David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:34:52AM -0400, Nathan Thrower wrote: > > I want to get a Flash plugin to run under Sarge. ... > apt-get install swf-player I agree that swf-player seems to work better than the others -- at least it doesn't crash as much. But are there any tricks to getting swf-player to work when it doesn't? I think it used to work (sometimes) in Firefox about six months ago, but most of the time I only get a blank grey area in browser pages since then. I've gone through some of the tests listed at http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/ but it seems like something is missing, and I probably didn't see it among all the information on the gstreamer site. Can I get some sort of debug information from the browser plugin when it's running? P.S.: I just reinstalled the totem-gstreamer package. When I play a file called userfriendly.swf (cartoon movie) in totem, the audio plays, but the image is extremely blurred as if some sort of effect is being applied. I don't see any useful error messages on the command line. I tried it again in Firefox 1.0.4, and I just get the empty grey rectangle. I just tried again in Mozilla 1.7.8 and discovered that userfriendly.swf DOES play there ... So maybe I need to check the Firefox plugin... ?
Re: Getting Flash support on Sarge
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:02:43PM -0500, Tommy Trussell wrote: > On 6/6/05, David Schleef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:34:52AM -0400, Nathan Thrower wrote: > > > I want to get a Flash plugin to run under Sarge. > ... > > apt-get install swf-player > > I agree that swf-player seems to work better than the others -- at > least it doesn't crash as much. But are there any tricks to getting > swf-player to work when it doesn't? I suggest filing bugs. dave... -- David Schleef Big Kitten LLC (http://www.bigkitten.com/) -- data acquisition on Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install Sarge on a Ibook ?
Hi Diego On Wed, 2004-02-18 at 21:55, Diego Bellavia wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first message in this list, and I willl > begin with a presentation : I am Diego, an happy > owner of an Ibook G3 900 MHZ, combo. Some weeks ago I > upgraded my system to the panther, and in that > occasion I partitioned my HD so that a partition of 3 > GB is now free just to install a debian inside ! You're sure 3 GB is enough for you? ... > I read some how-to and the instruction are quite > clear, but what I would like to do is to install a > debian testing distribution (Sarge); On a more than 1 year old PowerBook G4, 867MHz, Radeon 9000 the following worked like a charm: http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook.html Not being sure how new your ibook is, which exact hardware you have and whether it is already supported on Debian ppc. But: http://linux-on-laptops.com/apple.html http://malik.homelinux.org/ibook/ibook-2.6.html and probably much more via Google :) Good luck Regards Wolfgang > I think the best > way to do it is to install a very little "core" of > debian from wich install the complete debian testing > distribution (so,a network installation ) but I do not > know exactly what is the procedure and where to find > the core I need to start the installation; I am sure > this is not the first time of a request like this > here, so a link with a tutorial or the essential > informations would be greatly appreciated: Note the in > my system I do not have Mac OS 9, only Panther and, > hopefully, Linux Debian :) > > Thank you in advance for any help or advices, > > Diego > > __ > Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, > il filtro Anti-spam > http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Profile, Links: http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer
Re: Install Sarge on a Ibook ?
On Wed, 18 Feb 2004, [iso-8859-1] Diego Bellavia wrote: > clear, but what I would like to do is to install a > debian testing distribution (Sarge); I think the best > way to do it is to install a very little "core" of > debian from wich install the complete debian testing > distribution (so,a network installation ) but I do not The beta installer [1] should work fine, though I recommend having a copy of Branden's notes [2] to help with partitioning issues. After you're done please file an installer report, there haven't been enough people testing the PPC port. [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ [2] http://people.debian.org/~branden/ibook/ --Andre
Re: Install Sarge on a Ibook ?
After you're done please file an installer report, there haven't been enough people testing the PPC port. I've successfully installed Debian using the debian-sarge-netinst.iso installer on an Apple G4. I'd be happy to file an installer report. Could you post a link and/or describe how you do this? sebyte
Re: Install Sarge on a Ibook ?
hi... * Sebastian Tennant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-02-24 09:09 +0100]: > >After you're done please file an > >installer report, there haven't been enough people testing > >the PPC port. > > I've successfully installed Debian using the debian-sarge-netinst.iso > installer on an Apple G4. I'd be happy to file an installer report. > Could you post a link and/or describe how you do this? http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/report-template hth, sebastian -- ::: .O. ::: ..O ::: OOO ::: lynx -source http://www.kodeaffe.de/shensche.pub | gpg --import signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Upgrade woody to sarge broken X
Hello all, I've just upgraded from woody to sarge which went reasonably smoothly, but now the xserver won't start. I've tried to figure it out, but nothing seems to work. I'm giving up for tonight (it's 1.30 and I need some shut-eye). Any help would be appreciated. The output from Xfree86.log, my XF86Config-4, lspci and cat /proc/fb are all below. This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to XFree86@XFree86.Org and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-6 20030226055119 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 18 October 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.19-powerpc-smp ppc [ELF] Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Sep 24 01:25:11 2003 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4" (==) ServerLayout "Default Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Iiyama 410" (**) | |-->Device "ATY bandit" (**) |-->Input Device "Generic Keyboard" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) Option "XkbModel" "macintosh" (**) XKB: model: "macintosh" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "uk" (**) XKB: layout: "uk" (**) Option "XkbVariant" "uk" (**) XKB: variant: "uk" (--) Keyboard: CustomKeycode enabled (**) |-->Input Device "Configured Mouse" (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (**) FontPath set to "unix/:7100,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi" (==) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (++) using VT number 7 (WW) Open APM failed (/dev/apm_bios) (No such file or directory) (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: "bitmap" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: "pcidata" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 106b,0001 card , rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0d:0: chip 10ec,8029 card 10ec,8029 rev 00 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:10:0: chip 106b,0007 card , rev 02 class ff,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:12:0: chip 1002,4754 card , rev 41 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) LoadModule: "scanpci" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 (II) UnloadModule: "scanpci" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:11:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B] (II) Bus 0 prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B] (--) PCI:*(0:18:0) ATI Mach64 GT rev 65, Mem @ 0x8100/24, 0xf308/12, I/O @ 0x1000/8 (II) Addressable bus resource ranges are [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x0) MX[B] [1] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] (II) OS-reported resource ranges: [0] -1 00x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 00x - 0x0
Re: Another sarge install problem - inn2
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 10:27:00AM +0100, Paul Talacko wrote: > /etc/news/inn.conf: cannot create /etc/news/inn.conf.new.1464: No such > file or directly. > > Those figures, i.e. 1464, are different for each install attempt. I > don't really understand what is happening. There is probably a simple > work around. Can anyone help?? Does /etc/news exist? If not, just create it (and file a bugreport against inn2). -- Guido signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Another sarge install problem - inn2
Hi, Paul Talacko writes: > I have one other problem in the upgrade to sarge. inn2 won't > install. [...] There is probably a simple work around. Can anyone > help?? Yes. A solution is found at http://bugs.debian.org/210678>. And next time, please check the BTS right away - this has nothing to do with Debian/powerpc. In this particular case, http://bugs.debian.org/inn2> would have been the place to go. Regards, Jens. -- J'qbpbe, le m'en fquz pe j'qbpbe! Le veux aimeb et mqubib panz je pézqbpbe je djuz tqtaj!
Re: Segfault on apt-get (sarge)
> Ken Treis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-11-18 19:11]: > > I just upgraded one of my briQ-based servers to the latest from sarge, > and now I get segmentation faults when apt reads package lists: > ... > > # apt-cache update > Segmentation fault > ... > I can still get files onto the system, and I can still install them with > `dpkg -i`, so I'm confident that I can recover from this situation ... > but only if I can figure out which package is to blame. > I am figuring the same problems for systems running 2.4 as well as 2.6. Since I make use of them in a "production environment" (well, I work on them every day,) I would be happy to fix that problem asap. I would be more than happy to get help for fixing this problem! Thanks! wbr, Lukas -- Lukas Ruf | Wanna know anything about raw | <http://www.lpr.ch> | IP? -> <http://www.rawip.org> | eMail Style Guide: <http://www.rawip.org/style.html>|
Re: Segfault on apt-get (sarge)
On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:43:52AM -0800, Ken Treis wrote: > I just upgraded one of my briQ-based servers to the latest from sarge, > and now I get segmentation faults when apt reads package lists: > > # apt-get update > [various sites hit] > Fetched 7066B in 0s (7482B/s) > Segmentation faultsts... 1% [...] I've encountered a similiar error on x86/woody having a rather big sources.list when apt's cache became too small and the internal database couldn't be updated/expanded. You might wanna try to increase to cache size with the following: echo "APT::Cache-Limit \"104857600\";" > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/30cache But it's more of a guess though. Joe
Re: Segfault on apt-get (sarge)
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Ken Treis wrote:
> I just upgraded one of my briQ-based servers to the latest from sarge,
> and now I get segmentation faults when apt reads package lists:
>
> # apt-get update
> [various sites hit]
> Fetched 7066B in 0s (7482B/s)
> Segmentation faultsts... 1%
>
> # apt-cache update
> Segmentation fault
>
> The update that caused these problems to begin brought in the following
> packages:
>
>base-config base-files console-common debconf debconf-i18n diff
>findutils iptables libc6 login modutils nano passwd ppp procps proftpd
>proftpd-common proftpd-doc pump wget wwwconfig-common
>
> I don't know which of these would have caused the issue, but my reading
> of changelogs and searches of the bug tracking system haven't brought up
> anything useful.
>
> I can still get files onto the system, and I can still install them with
> `dpkg -i`, so I'm confident that I can recover from this situation ...
> but only if I can figure out which package is to blame.
Usually libc6 is too blame. If you still have the old one in
/var/cache/apt/archives/ (or can get it on the box) just reinstall it manually.
Gr{oetje,eeting}s,
Geert
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Re: Segfault on apt-get (sarge)
Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: Usually libc6 is too blame. If you still have the old one in /var/cache/apt/archives/ (or can get it on the box) just reinstall it manually. Tried rolling back to libc6_2.3.2-9, but that didn't help. I'm not exactly sure what I was running before, and of course I did an `apt-get clean` out of habit. So I'm seeing this both with that libc and with libc6_2.3.2.ds1-10. And changing the cache limit didn't fix it, either. # gdb apt-get GNU gdb 6.0-debian [snipped] (gdb) run update [snipped] Reading Package Lists... 0% Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x0ffb0094 in pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser::NewDepends(pkgCache::VerIterator, std::string, std::string, unsigned, unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 (gdb) bt #0 0x0ffb0094 in pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser::NewDepends(pkgCache::VerIterator, std::string, std::string, unsigned, unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #1 0x0ffb0054 in pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser::NewDepends(pkgCache::VerIterator, std::string, std::string, unsigned, unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #2 0x0ffbc32c in debListParser::NewVersion(pkgCache::VerIterator) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #3 0x0ffaed78 in pkgCacheGenerator::MergeList(pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser&, pkgCache::VerIterator*) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #4 0x0ffc9a4c in debPackagesIndex::Merge(pkgCacheGenerator&, OpProgress&) const () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #5 0x0ffb188c in pkgCacheGenerator::WriteUniqString(char const*, unsigned) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #6 0x0ffb1cf8 in pkgMakeStatusCache(pkgSourceList&, OpProgress&, MMap**, bool) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #7 0x0ffa7cec in pkgCacheFile::BuildCaches(OpProgress&, bool) () from /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 #8 0x1000d2fc in ?? () (gdb) -- Ken Treis Miriam Technologies, Inc.
Re: Segfault on apt-get (sarge)
On Wed, 2003-11-19 at 02:01, Ken Treis wrote: > > Reading Package Lists... 0% > Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. > 0x0ffb0094 in > pkgCacheGenerator::ListParser::NewDepends(pkgCache::VerIterator, > std::string, std::string, unsigned, unsigned) () from > /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 reportbug -f /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5.so.3.3 -- Earthling Michel Dänzer | Debian (powerpc), X and DRI developer Software libre enthusiast| http://svcs.affero.net/rm.php?r=daenzer
Re: Java and Mozilla in Sarge
On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:11:25 -0700 Shawn Dunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting problem here, I have the java stuff installed from > http://people.debian.org/klecker (I think, or something to that > effect), yet Mozilla is unuseable with Java, whereas Netscrape 4.7 > works fine (If a bit slow.), anybody have any idea what's wrong > here? > > Ok, I just went and downloaded the blackdown j2re1.3.1 binaries, and installed them, and it just crashes mozilla whenever it loads an applet, is there a place where I can get debian packages for the j2re of any flavour? klecker.debian.org seems to be deader than a doornail --Shawn
