Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
netbooting is the correct way on those, and the only tested way. And the CDs are supposed to boot on the RS6000? They should, but there seems to be some issue that need investigating. I fixed something (missing icon) recently, so the daily builds and beta2 should be better than sarge. Nope. yaboot loads and immediately starts with bootp requests. Note that this only works with the disks unplugged - otherwise, OF would briefly read from the CD, then the yaboot residing on the old install would load. MIchael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 08:53:30AM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: Solution is to fix partman-prep, and see if yaboot-installer behaves then, or to see if the excessive ramdisk size created by initramfs-tools caused the compressed kernel + builtin initrd to cause trouble with the OFs installer. My bet would be on the latter. That should be fairly easy to test. partman is one of the most ugly and spaguetti-like code to play with, i wish you luck with it. Never said I'd play with partman. I'll test a recent netboot CD, and I'll play with yaboot size limits, that's all. Nope, the size limit seems to be in the kernel+builtin initrd put onto the prep partition. I don't understand why there is any need to place kernel and ramdisk on the PREP boot partition at all. Well, it should work, the problem is that yaboot-installer is hosed, probably because of the partman-prep issue. Fix partman-prep, and all should be fine. Friendly; Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
Solution is to fix partman-prep, and see if yaboot-installer behaves then, or to see if the excessive ramdisk size created by initramfs-tools caused the compressed kernel + builtin initrd to cause trouble with the OFs installer. My bet would be on the latter. That should be fairly easy to test. partman is one of the most ugly and spaguetti-like code to play with, i wish you luck with it. Never said I'd play with partman. I'll test a recent netboot CD, and I'll play with yaboot size limits, that's all. Nope, the size limit seems to be in the kernel+builtin initrd put onto the prep partition. I don't understand why there is any need to place kernel and ramdisk on the PREP boot partition at all. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
That would be interesting, since the B50 is exactly what those corean guys have all this trouble dealing with. Odd. We installed from a floppy using the woody netinstall CDs by just following the instructions found at http://www.kutilek.de/technik/debian-rs6k.en.php You reqlise that sarge was released almost a year ago now, and that debian-installer has almost nothing to do with the woody boot-floppies, right ? :) I do in fact realize that. I had two students install these B50 boxes and that's what worked in the end. IIRC we tried to boot from sarge netinstall CD and that didn't even begin to boot. There is no floppy support on either sarge or etch debian-installer for powerpc prep or chrp boxes right now, only the unofficial powermac oldworld miboot floppies. And the CDs are supposed to boot on the RS6000? I should be able to provide a system.map of the booting kernel so people can figure out what's missing in the stock kernels. The problem was not the kernel, but it seems that yaboot-installer or With our install it was the kernel. Your mail did not specify detail beyond 'korean guys' which did not ring a bell. prep-installer, or plain dd was not able to create a booting system. yaboot works for booting these machines; a simple default config created using yabootconfig did the job. The kernel resides in / instead of /boot but that should not matter. Solution is to fix partman-prep, and see if yaboot-installer behaves then, or to see if the excessive ramdisk size created by initramfs-tools caused the compressed kernel + builtin initrd to cause trouble with the OFs installer. My bet would be on the latter. That should be fairly easy to test. Or maybe simply that the addnote thingy is broken or something ? I don't really know. I am able to make the prep machines bootable with simply dding the kernel with builtin ramdisk the prep partition So no yaboot used, and no size limits whatsoever? Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Sun, Apr 02, 2006 at 04:26:27PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: That would be interesting, since the B50 is exactly what those corean guys have all this trouble dealing with. Odd. We installed from a floppy using the woody netinstall CDs by just following the instructions found at http://www.kutilek.de/technik/debian-rs6k.en.php You reqlise that sarge was released almost a year ago now, and that debian-installer has almost nothing to do with the woody boot-floppies, right ? :) I do in fact realize that. I had two students install these B50 boxes and that's what worked in the end. IIRC we tried to boot from sarge netinstall CD and that didn't even begin to boot. netbooting is the correct way on those, and the only tested way. There is no floppy support on either sarge or etch debian-installer for powerpc prep or chrp boxes right now, only the unofficial powermac oldworld miboot floppies. And the CDs are supposed to boot on the RS6000? They should, but there seems to be some issue that need investigating. I fixed something (missing icon) recently, so the daily builds and beta2 should be better than sarge. I should be able to provide a system.map of the booting kernel so people can figure out what's missing in the stock kernels. The problem was not the kernel, but it seems that yaboot-installer or With our install it was the kernel. Your mail did not specify detail beyond 'korean guys' which did not ring a bell. Well, they have some name in a non-displayable (for me) charset, and a korean mailing list address, i asked them to post on d-ppc this last month. prep-installer, or plain dd was not able to create a booting system. yaboot works for booting these machines; a simple default config created using yabootconfig did the job. The kernel resides in / instead of /boot but that should not matter. Yep, but since partman-prep and yaboot-installer is broken on those. Nobody seems to be in a hurry to fix those though, as it is not over 3 month since the problem was first observed. Solution is to fix partman-prep, and see if yaboot-installer behaves then, or to see if the excessive ramdisk size created by initramfs-tools caused the compressed kernel + builtin initrd to cause trouble with the OFs installer. My bet would be on the latter. That should be fairly easy to test. partman is one of the most ugly and spaguetti-like code to play with, i wish you luck with it. Or maybe simply that the addnote thingy is broken or something ? I don't really know. I am able to make the prep machines bootable with simply dding the kernel with builtin ramdisk the prep partition So no yaboot used, and no size limits whatsoever? Nope, the size limit seems to be in the kernel+builtin initrd put onto the prep partition. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 04:35:53PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: FWIW, I've got a bunch of old Macs here (including Nubus), and one RS/6000 B50 that can be used for testing CD booting if necessary. That would be interesting, since the B50 is exactly what those corean guys have all this trouble dealing with. Odd. We installed from a floppy using the woody netinstall CDs by just following the instructions found at http://www.kutilek.de/technik/debian-rs6k.en.php You reqlise that sarge was released almost a year ago now, and that debian-installer has almost nothing to do with the woody boot-floppies, right ? :) There is no floppy support on either sarge or etch debian-installer for powerpc prep or chrp boxes right now, only the unofficial powermac oldworld miboot floppies. and I don't recall anything difficult(*). The only OF capable graphics card I have is an IMSTT card which refused to work in the B50 so we did it all using serial console. I should be able to provide a system.map of the booting kernel so people can figure out what's missing in the stock kernels. The problem was not the kernel, but it seems that yaboot-installer or prep-installer, or plain dd was not able to create a booting system. Solution is to fix partman-prep, and see if yaboot-installer behaves then, or to see if the excessive ramdisk size created by initramfs-tools caused the compressed kernel + builtin initrd to cause trouble with the OFs installer. Or maybe simply that the addnote thingy is broken or something ? I don't really know. I am able to make the prep machines bootable with simply dding the kernel with builtin ramdisk the prep partition Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 03:20:41PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: Well, nice to hear it's not the hardware that's holding things up. Now we just need to find someone to volunteer to take over from you. Anyone? FWIW (I forget if the relevant thread was CCed here), I've volunteered, and the relevant bits of code have been switched over to look at my daily builds. You made yourself perfectly clear by asking 'what needs doing' here, thanks. FWIW, I've got a bunch of old Macs here (including Nubus), and one RS/6000 B50 that can be used for testing CD booting if necessary. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Thu, Mar 30, 2006 at 10:35:27AM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 03:20:41PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: Well, nice to hear it's not the hardware that's holding things up. Now we just need to find someone to volunteer to take over from you. Anyone? FWIW (I forget if the relevant thread was CCed here), I've volunteered, and the relevant bits of code have been switched over to look at my daily builds. You made yourself perfectly clear by asking 'what needs doing' here, thanks. FWIW, I've got a bunch of old Macs here (including Nubus), and one RS/6000 B50 that can be used for testing CD booting if necessary. That would be interesting, since the B50 is exactly what those corean guys have all this trouble dealing with. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
FWIW, I've got a bunch of old Macs here (including Nubus), and one RS/6000 B50 that can be used for testing CD booting if necessary. That would be interesting, since the B50 is exactly what those corean guys have all this trouble dealing with. Odd. We installed from a floppy using the woody netinstall CDs by just following the instructions found at http://www.kutilek.de/technik/debian-rs6k.en.php and I don't recall anything difficult(*). The only OF capable graphics card I have is an IMSTT card which refused to work in the B50 so we did it all using serial console. I should be able to provide a system.map of the booting kernel so people can figure out what's missing in the stock kernels. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 03:20:41PM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: Well, nice to hear it's not the hardware that's holding things up. Now we just need to find someone to volunteer to take over from you. Anyone? FWIW (I forget if the relevant thread was CCed here), I've volunteered, and the relevant bits of code have been switched over to look at my daily builds. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 02:20:11AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: There is no problem with initramfs-tools, just a problem with the maintainer of the ppc port who is too quick to jump to conclusions again. Since the debian-installer team clearly stated that debian would be better off without me, and that i was not irreplacable, i am now very curious who you are speaking about :) I have not yet disabled the powerpc daily-builds, but there are enough people who received a pegasos machine donated, including members of the debian-installer team, and will be able to take this over soon i hope. I thought someone mentioned 'cooling off' or some such. Color me confused. If the d-i team does not get their act together WRT daily builds, I can offer to set up a 233 MHz G3 with accounts for d-i. Ditto for someone to build kernels. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 10:16:12AM +0200, Michael Schmitz wrote: On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 02:20:11AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: There is no problem with initramfs-tools, just a problem with the maintainer of the ppc port who is too quick to jump to conclusions again. Since the debian-installer team clearly stated that debian would be better off without me, and that i was not irreplacable, i am now very curious who you are speaking about :) I have not yet disabled the powerpc daily-builds, but there are enough people who received a pegasos machine donated, including members of the debian-installer team, and will be able to take this over soon i hope. I thought someone mentioned 'cooling off' or some such. Color me confused. Sorry, but i am in a personal dire situation, caring for my mother who has generalized cancer, and posts like franzes above are certainly not easy when you try to cool off. If the d-i team does not get their act together WRT daily builds, I can offer to set up a 233 MHz G3 with accounts for d-i. Ditto for someone to build kernels. The real problem is not the machine, they can even use an account on the IBM donated quad-power5 at augsbourg if needed. The real issue is that there is something wrong with how the d-i team thinks. On one part they bashed on me over the expulsion process, and frans was quite un-comprehending and caustic, but on the other hand they still think of me as the ppc porter, and expect me to know all, be well informed before posting, and fix the daily builds that occasionally get broken by other parts of the daily builds. I am not in an emotional state right now to do any kidn of fixing, and am more worried about finding an oxygen thank in the miami airport for thursday afternoon than any kind of debian work. This may change in the future, but i will probably not want to take over the d-i porter job again (unless asked very nicely by the d-i team maybe) in any case, and will probably concentrate on other parts of debian or something. In any case, i think it is best for debian and the etch release process that someone else takes the d-i powerpc porter hat for some time now. I can keep the daily build up, and since it syncs daily from the svn, everyone else can fix stuff there, since it is from there that it gets broken anyway :) Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
If the d-i team does not get their act together WRT daily builds, I can offer to set up a 233 MHz G3 with accounts for d-i. Ditto for someone to build kernels. The real problem is not the machine, they can even use an account on the IBM donated quad-power5 at augsbourg if needed. The real issue is that there is something wrong with how the d-i team thinks. On one part they bashed on me over the expulsion process, and frans was quite un-comprehending and caustic, but on the other hand they still think of me as the ppc porter, and expect me to know all, be well informed before posting, and fix the daily builds that occasionally get broken by other parts of the daily builds. Well, nice to hear it's not the hardware that's holding things up. Now we just need to find someone to volunteer to take over from you. Anyone? Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
Hi folks, I've been away from my computer for a few months, but decided to give the latest d-i netinstall daily build a spin today (March 26). Besides the obvious known problem (default mirror) I find that a powerpc64 install on a PowerMac7,3 (Dual 2Ghz G5) fails when trying to install the kernel. Here is the tail end from the syslog Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Found kernels 'linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc64,linux-image-2.6-powerpc64' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: arch_kernel candidates: linux-image-2.6-powerpc64 Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: arch_kernel: linux-image-2.6-powerpc64 (present) Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Using kernel 'linux-image-2.6-powerpc64' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Setting do_initrd='yes'. Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Setting link_in_boot='yes'. Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Possible initramfs generator(s): 'initramfs-tools yaird' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Available initramfs generator(s): 'initramfs-tools' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/initramfs/no-generator Mar 26 19:22:14 init: ^MStarting pid 1123, console /dev/vc/2: '/bin/sh' Also, when looking at the target disk it is clear that yaird is simply missing (which I'm assuming is the root cause...) ~$ ls /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/y* /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/mki* ls: /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/mki*: No such file or directory /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/yabootconfig /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/ybin I looked in the installation reports and the errata and did not see this reported except for the cryptic errata saying [21 Mar 06] Base installation will fail because of a script error. Since I've been away since December I thought I'd ask before filing a new bug: is this new/unknown? Or is it just me? Should I file an installation/bug report? Thanks, Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Sun, Mar 26, 2006 at 12:10:56PM -0800, Shyamal Prasad wrote: Hi folks, I've been away from my computer for a few months, but decided to give the latest d-i netinstall daily build a spin today (March 26). Please file a bug report, and don't just post here. I have been asked to take a few weeks off so, you need to find someone else to investigate this with you. Besides the obvious known problem (default mirror) I find that a powerpc64 install on a PowerMac7,3 (Dual 2Ghz G5) fails when trying to install the kernel. Here is the tail end from the syslog Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Found kernels 'linux-image-2.6.15-1-powerpc64,linux-image-2.6-powerpc64' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: arch_kernel candidates: linux-image-2.6-powerpc64 Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: arch_kernel: linux-image-2.6-powerpc64 (present) Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Using kernel 'linux-image-2.6-powerpc64' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Setting do_initrd='yes'. Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Setting link_in_boot='yes'. Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Possible initramfs generator(s): 'initramfs-tools yaird' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: info: Available initramfs generator(s): 'initramfs-tools' Mar 26 19:22:08 base-installer: error: exiting on error base-installer/initramfs/no-generator Mar 26 19:22:14 init: ^MStarting pid 1123, console /dev/vc/2: '/bin/sh' Also, when looking at the target disk it is clear that yaird is simply missing (which I'm assuming is the root cause...) ~$ ls /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/y* /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/mki* ls: /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/mki*: No such file or directory /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/yabootconfig /mnt/chroot/usr/sbin/ybin Ok, but initramfs-tools is there, and is the default now anyway, so it should work. There is clearly a bug in initramfs-tools about this issue, so file a bug report against it, or ask maks on irc (#debian-kernel on irc.oftc.net). I looked in the installation reports and the errata and did not see this reported except for the cryptic errata saying [21 Mar 06] Base installation will fail because of a script error. Since I've been away since December I thought I'd ask before filing a new bug: is this new/unknown? Or is it just me? Should I file an installation/bug report? Please file an installation report, CCed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sven Please file an installation report, CCed to Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sure thing: #359164 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=359164 I am presuming some one with a better understanding of the issue can reassign it to the appropriate package (e.g. initramfs-tools). Cheers! Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Sunday 26 March 2006 23:21, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, but initramfs-tools is there, and is the default now anyway, so it should work. There is clearly a bug in initramfs-tools about this issue, so file a bug report against it, or ask maks on irc (#debian-kernel on irc.oftc.net). No, this is a result of the daily powerpc builds and thus the daily CD builds failing [1]. Because of this the latest netinst CD available has a broken version of base-installer. This _is_ the error that you noticed listed on the DebianInstaller/Today wiki page and which has long been fixed. There is no problem with initramfs-tools, just a problem with the maintainer of the ppc port who is too quick to jump to conclusions again. [1] http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/build-logs.html pgpy2v1EsNEF4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: d-i daily build fails when building initrd (PowerMac7,3)
On Mon, Mar 27, 2006 at 02:20:11AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: There is no problem with initramfs-tools, just a problem with the maintainer of the ppc port who is too quick to jump to conclusions again. Since the debian-installer team clearly stated that debian would be better off without me, and that i was not irreplacable, i am now very curious who you are speaking about :) I have not yet disabled the powerpc daily-builds, but there are enough people who received a pegasos machine donated, including members of the debian-installer team, and will be able to take this over soon i hope. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
