Re: evolution etc...
Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > Here's the change: > > tigert ~/src/cvs/evolution/libversit % diff vcc.y vcc.y.orig > 555c555 > < static char lexGetc_() > --- > > static int lexGetc_() Indeed, this broke arm too. We had to make this same change in gnome-pim 1.0 and 1.2. Thanks for making the change on evolution! -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
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On 06 Mar 2001 01:12:20 +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > Next I guess I gotta look with Chris (the addressbook dude) whether it > crashes on Sparc too etc.. Duh. Well, good that I went for the Pismo instead > of an IBM laptop, the end result would be one ppc-specific bug less.. Ok, we had a bug fixing session, and it was a typical one-liner in libversit (apparently a lib that Evolution uses to parse the addressbook vCards or something, I am not too familiar with the internals of Evolution and what libraries it uses etc..) It works fine on my machine now, so some email-client changing action is in the schedule soon :o) Here's the change: tigert ~/src/cvs/evolution/libversit % diff vcc.y vcc.y.orig 555c555 < static char lexGetc_() --- > static int lexGetc_() (excuse my sucky patch generating skillz :) This probably works for the latest developer release as well as CVS. Thanks Craige for help! And thanks to Peter for the useful ulimit tip, I knew such thing existed but I never actually used it for anything. Best wishes, Tuomas Tuomas Kuosmanen - Art Director - Ximian - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.ximian.com
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On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 01:12:20AM +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > Next I guess I gotta look with Chris (the addressbook dude) whether it > crashes on Sparc too etc.. Duh. Well, good that I went for the Pismo instead > of an IBM laptop, the end result would be one ppc-specific bug less.. I'll check SPARC in the next couple of days too. I'm lucky enough to have some Debian SPARC's on hand at work. ;) -- Cheers, Craige.
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On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:26:10PM +1100, thus said Craige McWhirter: > Toumas, not having really used the Evolution address book (I'm back to > using Balsa/Mutt) I gave it a whirl and experienced exactly what you > described. > > I could watch (with gkrellm) my RAM and swap get gobbled up. I averted a > crash only by closing Evolution just before the swap filled up. It also > works fine on my i386 machine. > > Scary stuff ;) Yep, but bugs happen when stuff is in progress.. :) Thanks for help though, I now know that it is just not my machine, but looks more likely that it is an endianness issue or something else that is processor architecture specific. Next I guess I gotta look with Chris (the addressbook dude) whether it crashes on Sparc too etc.. Duh. Well, good that I went for the Pismo instead of an IBM laptop, the end result would be one ppc-specific bug less.. Tuomas -- .---> [EMAIL PROTECTED].|\,/| [EMAIL PROTECTED] <-. +> www.ximian.com - ()-@@ , tigert.gimp.org <+ `-> art director , `--')/ a gimp artist <---'
Re: evolution etc...
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 09:26:10PM +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote: > Toumas, not having really used the Evolution address book (I'm back to using > Balsa/Mutt) I gave it a whirl and experienced exactly what you described. > > I could watch (with gkrellm) my RAM and swap get gobbled up. I averted a > crash only by closing Evolution just before the swap filled up. It also works > fine on my i386 machine. How to prevent runaway processes from eating all your RAM and causing trouble for the rest of the system: put ulimit -S -v 10 in /etc/profile. (adjust to whatever number of bytes of virtual memory you want any one process to be able to use. This is a soft limit, so users can bump it up if they need more for anything, without needing any rootly priviledges.) If you want to stop runaway daemons as well, I guess you could set the limits in /etc/init.d/rc, since that script runs all the S* and K* scripts, so the limits will be inherited. see help ulimit for more info. (It's has to be a shell builtin to work, so it is, so bash has built in help for it. There's a man page too.) -- #define X(x,y) x##y Peter Cordes ; e-mail: X([EMAIL PROTECTED] , ns.ca) "The gods confound the man who first found out how to distinguish the hours! Confound him, too, who in this place set up a sundial, to cut and hack my day so wretchedly into small pieces!" -- Plautus, 200 BCE
Re: evolution etc...
Toumas, not having really used the Evolution address book (I'm back to using Balsa/Mutt) I gave it a whirl and experienced exactly what you described. I could watch (with gkrellm) my RAM and swap get gobbled up. I averted a crash only by closing Evolution just before the swap filled up. It also works fine on my i386 machine. Scary stuff ;) On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 06:57:07AM +0200, Tuomas Kuosmanen wrote: > Out of curiosity, does your Evolution addressbook work on ppc? I am having > it crash if I run it on my debian ppc Pismo, however it works fine on the > same debian testing i386 desktop machine. > dudes here for it, but it seems to be something strange. Wombat starts > chomping memory like crazy and when it cant get any more, as swap and mem > are all eaten, it dies. Hmm. -- Cheers, Craige.
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On Sun, Feb 25, 2001 at 12:09:31AM +1100, thus said Craige McWhirter: > Phil, I think your message may be referrencing my messages about getting > Evolution running. I didn't make any package changes (I wouldn't even know > how) I merely installed evolution, libxml1 and bonobo (from Sid) to get > Evolution functioning. It still does not perform as "stable" as my i386 > laptop version. Neither are particularly stable but they are usable. Out of curiosity, does your Evolution addressbook work on ppc? I am having it crash if I run it on my debian ppc Pismo, however it works fine on the same debian testing i386 desktop machine. I have tracked it down to the Wombat (the evolution backend server process) crashing on lex_getword or something, I was just curious if anyone else has found similar problems when running it.. As "is this just my system being weird or is this common to all linux/ppc systems?" I am pestering the coder dudes here for it, but it seems to be something strange. Wombat starts chomping memory like crazy and when it cant get any more, as swap and mem are all eaten, it dies. Hmm. Tuomas -- .---> [EMAIL PROTECTED].|\,/| [EMAIL PROTECTED] <-. +> www.ximian.com - ()-@@ , tigert.gimp.org <+ `-> art director , `--')/ a gimp artist <---'
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Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > > I've had a different experience - the Debian submenu hasn't been there > > > for months. I don't remember exactly but it went away at about the time > > > I switched to Helix. > > > > I'm running the Helix debs from idorulabs, and I have the Debian Menu. I > > recall, in order to get the Debain menu, I had to go into the Control > > Center, Desktop:Panel:Menus, where you get a big list of possible things > > to include in your menus, one of which is the Debian menu, which, by > > default, was turned off. I turned it on, and it has worked fine since. > > Oh yes, there it is, right-click on the foot -> Properties does it too. Not 'too'. That's what I was missing! :) It's not possible in the Control Center, which only affects the 'global' menu, while the foot is the 'main' menu. Thanks a lot Adam. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
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Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I've had a different experience - the Debian submenu hasn't been there for > > months. I don't remember exactly but it went away at about the time I > > switched > > to Helix. > > I'm running the Helix debs from idorulabs, and I have the Debian Menu. I > recall, in order to get the Debain menu, I had to go into the Control > Center, Desktop:Panel:Menus, where you get a big list of possible things > to include in your menus, one of which is the Debian menu, which, by > default, was turned off. I turned it on, and it has worked fine since. Oh yes, there it is, right-click on the foot -> Properties does it too. Thanks, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
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> I've had a different experience - the Debian submenu hasn't been there for > months. I don't remember exactly but it went away at about the time I switched > to Helix. I'm running the Helix debs from idorulabs, and I have the Debian Menu. I recall, in order to get the Debain menu, I had to go into the Control Center, Desktop:Panel:Menus, where you get a big list of possible things to include in your menus, one of which is the Debian menu, which, by default, was turned off. I turned it on, and it has worked fine since. -raf
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Michel Dänzer wrote: > Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > > > Speaking of menus, I've also had a problem with the GNOME menus for some > > > time. The main menu (foot on panel) doesn't contain the Debian part, and > > > it doesn't follow changes in the Control Center. > > > > Sorry, I don't use sawfish, but on this second one, I've noticed the Debian > > submenu disappearing and reappearing through the 1.2 series. It seems to > > disappear with a major upstream change, and reappear shortly thereafter. > > Now that I have an i386 box running unstable, I can assure you it's not an > > architecture thing. > > At least. :) > > I've had a different experience - the Debian submenu hasn't been there for > months. I don't remember exactly but it went away at about the time I switched > to Helix. I see, if you're using Helix, that's a different story, I can't help you. The official .deb had the Debian menu in there for a couple of months, lost it on the... uh, I take back what I said earlier about upstream changes, it seems to have disappeared somewhere between 1.2.4-9 and -11. (Mistook the extra digit in the Deb release number for an upstream version change. :-) In general, Christian Marillat, Takuo Kitame, etc. (too many to list) are doing a nice job of supporting Debianisms in the official GNOME packages, from menu to doc-base to Build-Depends to upgradability (is doc-base supported by the Helix packages? are they still not automatically "upgradable" back to the official debs?), and generally lag Helix by at most a week or two, so I've built and uploaded and used these instead of Helix. Disclaimer: no hard feelings against Ximian (greeted a bunch of them at Mary Chung's Chinese restaurant about a month ago, and thanked them for the hard work and cool software :-). Open question to the Debian-GNOME list: are there any discussions with Ximian about long-term maintainership of these packages? Or are we going to have two sets of packages for the indefinite future? The duplication of effort may not be overwhelming (like GNOME vs., uh, never mind), but it's not exactly trivial either... E.g. if someone were to offer to take over my (unrelated) PETSc packages, I could work on new features instead of package maintenance. Just wondering, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
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Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Speaking of menus, I've also had a problem with the GNOME menus for some > > time. The main menu (foot on panel) doesn't contain the Debian part, and > > it doesn't follow changes in the Control Center. > > Sorry, I don't use sawfish, but on this second one, I've noticed the Debian > submenu disappearing and reappearing through the 1.2 series. It seems to > disappear with a major upstream change, and reappear shortly thereafter. > Now that I have an i386 box running unstable, I can assure you it's not an > architecture thing. At least. :) I've had a different experience - the Debian submenu hasn't been there for months. I don't remember exactly but it went away at about the time I switched to Helix. It looks a bit to me like GNOME uses 'my personal menu' (which isn't maintained automatically) instead of the default one, but I am far from understanding how the GNOME menu system works. > I don't know for sure, but the changelog might help... Didn't see anything helpful. Thanks anyway. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
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Michel Dänzer wrote: > Speaking of menus, I've also had a problem with the GNOME menus for some time. > The main menu (foot on panel) doesn't contain the Debian part, and it doesn't > follow changes in the Control Center. Sorry, I don't use sawfish, but on this second one, I've noticed the Debian submenu disappearing and reappearing through the 1.2 series. It seems to disappear with a major upstream change, and reappear shortly thereafter. Now that I have an i386 box running unstable, I can assure you it's not an architecture thing. I don't know for sure, but the changelog might help... Zeen, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
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Matt Brubeck wrote: > Speaking of new packages, I recently built sawfish and rep-gtk from the > source packages in unstable. Both compiled without problems. Is there any > reason the autobuilders haven't been compiling these for the past several > months? Speaking of sawfish, I have a problem with 0.36 (-helix3 to be exact). When I try to use the middle mouse its menus I get an error about files (a list of numbers). Speaking of menus, I've also had a problem with the GNOME menus for some time. The main menu (foot on panel) doesn't contain the Debian part, and it doesn't follow changes in the Control Center. Anyone has a clue what might be up? Enough spoken. :) I appreciate any help. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)\ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer CS student, Free Software enthusiast \XFree86 and DRI project member
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Matt Brubeck wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > > There are new versions of everything now, but the holdup is > > guile-core, which doesn't build on PPC right now. See bug #86669. > > > > As soon as that's resolved, I'll upload a bunch of new packages > > (unless the autobuilders beat me to it :-). I got tired of waiting (okay, so a week is not that long, but I'm impatient :-), so I'm building a qthreadless guile-core and will upload when it's done. > Speaking of new packages, I recently built sawfish and rep-gtk from the > source packages in unstable. Both compiled without problems. Is there any > reason the autobuilders haven't been compiling these for the past several > months? What you're looking for is e.g.: http://voltaire.debian.org/buildd/buildlogs/sawfish/latest It seems to be down for now, but AFAIK that's temporary. Zeen, -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
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On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > There are new versions of everything now, but the holdup is > guile-core, which doesn't build on PPC right now. See bug #86669. > > As soon as that's resolved, I'll upload a bunch of new packages > (unless the autobuilders beat me to it :-). Speaking of new packages, I recently built sawfish and rep-gtk from the source packages in unstable. Both compiled without problems. Is there any reason the autobuilders haven't been compiling these for the past several months? I'm not a Debian developer so I can't upload to Debian, but I can make these packages available if anyone wants them.
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Phil Fraering wrote: > Could whoever came up with the fixed version > of evolution and/or its dependent packages > (I think bonobo was one of the big problems) > please kindly upload the newer versions they > generated? There are new versions of everything now, but the holdup is guile-core, which doesn't build on PPC right now. See bug #86669. As soon as that's resolved, I'll upload a bunch of new packages (unless the autobuilders beat me to it :-). -Adam P. GPG fingerprint: D54D 1AEE B11C CE9B A02B C5DD 526F 01E8 564E E4B6 Welcome to the best software in the world today cafe!
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Phil, I think your message may be referrencing my messages about getting Evolution running. I didn't make any package changes (I wouldn't even know how) I merely installed evolution, libxml1 and bonobo (from Sid) to get Evolution functioning. It still does not perform as "stable" as my i386 laptop version. Neither are particularly stable but they are usable. On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 05:40:36PM -0600, Phil Fraering wrote: > Could whoever came up with the fixed version > of evolution and/or its dependent packages > (I think bonobo was one of the big problems) > please kindly upload the newer versions they > generated? > > Phil > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Cheers, Craige.
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Could whoever came up with the fixed version of evolution and/or its dependent packages (I think bonobo was one of the big problems) please kindly upload the newer versions they generated? Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
