Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:07:54AM +0200, Eddy Petrisor wrote: > > >There is debtakeover, but the > >time i tried it, it failed (sure, i had no access to the box, only ssh, > >and it > >was x86), but i am not sure debtakeover is YDL knowledgeable. > > > > > What about debootstrap or cdebootstrap? > I tried it once on a x86, and it was succesfull (it gave me a good > chroot base system). Yep, debtakeover uses debootstrap, i think. Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
On Fri, Jan 14, 2005 at 02:07:54AM +0200, Eddy Petrisor wrote: > > >There is debtakeover, but the > >time i tried it, it failed (sure, i had no access to the box, only ssh, > >and it > >was x86), but i am not sure debtakeover is YDL knowledgeable. > > > > > What about debootstrap or cdebootstrap? > I tried it once on a x86, and it was succesfull (it gave me a good > chroot base system). Yep, debtakeover uses debootstrap, i think. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
There is debtakeover, but the time i tried it, it failed (sure, i had no access to the box, only ssh, and it was x86), but i am not sure debtakeover is YDL knowledgeable. What about debootstrap or cdebootstrap? I tried it once on a x86, and it was succesfull (it gave me a good chroot base system). Friendly, Sven Luther EddyP
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
There is debtakeover, but the time i tried it, it failed (sure, i had no access to the box, only ssh, and it was x86), but i am not sure debtakeover is YDL knowledgeable. What about debootstrap or cdebootstrap? I tried it once on a x86, and it was succesfull (it gave me a good chroot base system). Friendly, Sven Luther EddyP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:17:05AM -0500, Russell McManus wrote: > > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: > >> I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade > >> to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I > >> have so far been unable to resolve. (See Message-ID: > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was "sarge > >> install help on 9600MP") > > > > According to your message, your network card (mace) was not > > detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer > > you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for > > the mace driver.) > > I downloaded an install iso from that site, not sure exactly which > one. The md5 sum of the iso I used is: > > MD5 (sarge-powerpc-1.iso) = a618fe6371390f2673b729ce673c3715 > > I couldn't find md5 sums for the iso's that are available to nail down > exactly which one I used. > > > If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/images/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ > > Thanks for the pointer. I haven't tried floppy booting, but I don't > think that will help, because the problem is not booting, but later on > during the install process. > > Could the problem be related to the fact that I have an add-on pci NIC > inside the case in addition to the mc0 on-board interface? > > Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated, Make sure to fill a proper installation report, and we would gladly rather help you fix d-i booting on your hardware, than suggesting you to go for a fancy in-place-upgrade-and-replacement solution. There is debtakeover, but the time i tried it, it failed (sure, i had no access to the box, only ssh, and it was x86), but i am not sure debtakeover is YDL knowledgeable. Friendly, Sven Luther
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:17:05AM -0500, Russell McManus wrote: > > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: > >> I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade > >> to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I > >> have so far been unable to resolve. (See Message-ID: > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was "sarge > >> install help on 9600MP") > > > > According to your message, your network card (mace) was not > > detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer > > you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for > > the mace driver.) > > I downloaded an install iso from that site, not sure exactly which > one. The md5 sum of the iso I used is: > > MD5 (sarge-powerpc-1.iso) = a618fe6371390f2673b729ce673c3715 > > I couldn't find md5 sums for the iso's that are available to nail down > exactly which one I used. > > > If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/images/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ > > Thanks for the pointer. I haven't tried floppy booting, but I don't > think that will help, because the problem is not booting, but later on > during the install process. > > Could the problem be related to the fact that I have an add-on pci NIC > inside the case in addition to the mc0 on-board interface? > > Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated, Make sure to fill a proper installation report, and we would gladly rather help you fix d-i booting on your hardware, than suggesting you to go for a fancy in-place-upgrade-and-replacement solution. There is debtakeover, but the time i tried it, it failed (sure, i had no access to the box, only ssh, and it was x86), but i am not sure debtakeover is YDL knowledgeable. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
d-i on pmac 9600 (was Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
Hi, On Monday 10 January 2005 17:17, Russell McManus wrote: > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: > >> I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade > >> to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I > > According to your message, your network card (mace) was not > > detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer > > you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for > > the mace driver.) > I downloaded an install iso from that site, not sure exactly which > one. The md5 sum of the iso I used is: > > MD5 (sarge-powerpc-1.iso) = a618fe6371390f2673b729ce673c3715 Well, this is the first cd of a full cd set. But I have no idea which one and google also doesn't know that md5-sum. > I couldn't find md5 sums for the iso's that are available to nail down > exactly which one I used. To be safe, you could just download a netinstall-image of rc2, it's only ~200mb. > > If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/ima > >ges/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ > Thanks for the pointer. I haven't tried floppy booting, but I don't > think that will help, because the problem is not booting, but later on > during the install process. I'm pretty sure this is fixed in rc2. > Could the problem be related to the fact that I have an add-on pci NIC > inside the case in addition to the mc0 on-board interface? Maybe, dunno. For testing purposes you could unplug it :) > Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated, > -russ you're welcome. If rc2 doesn't help, you should try to post on debian-boot@, this is the mailing list for the new installer. Alternativly, you could send a bug report (package: debian-installer). regards, Holger
d-i on pmac 9600 (was Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
Hi, On Monday 10 January 2005 17:17, Russell McManus wrote: > Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: > >> I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade > >> to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I > > According to your message, your network card (mace) was not > > detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer > > you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for > > the mace driver.) > I downloaded an install iso from that site, not sure exactly which > one. The md5 sum of the iso I used is: > > MD5 (sarge-powerpc-1.iso) = a618fe6371390f2673b729ce673c3715 Well, this is the first cd of a full cd set. But I have no idea which one and google also doesn't know that md5-sum. > I couldn't find md5 sums for the iso's that are available to nail down > exactly which one I used. To be safe, you could just download a netinstall-image of rc2, it's only ~200mb. > > If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/ima > >ges/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ > Thanks for the pointer. I haven't tried floppy booting, but I don't > think that will help, because the problem is not booting, but later on > during the install process. I'm pretty sure this is fixed in rc2. > Could the problem be related to the fact that I have an add-on pci NIC > inside the case in addition to the mc0 on-board interface? Maybe, dunno. For testing purposes you could unplug it :) > Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated, > -russ you're welcome. If rc2 doesn't help, you should try to post on debian-boot@, this is the mailing list for the new installer. Alternativly, you could send a bug report (package: debian-installer). regards, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
"Russell" == Russell McManus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> Thanks for taking an interest. Much appreciated. Russell> eth0: MACE at 00:05:02:76:a5:13, chip revision 25.64 Russell> eth1: Digital DS21143 Tulip rev 48 at 0xd1465000, Russell> 08:00:2B:C5:A1:92, IRQ 29. Russell> Any voodoo I can do from the command line to get these Russell> cards recognized once I've successfully booted the Russell> install kernel? I don't know this hardware very well, but I believe you are looking for either the 'tulip' or 'de4x5' drivers (quick Google search). Your best bet would be to look at the YDL dmesg output to see what driver is good for you card (presumably this works on YDL?). Then switch to a virtual console in d-i at some point (after hardware detection) and try doing insmod to see if it comes up. There might be an easier way to try this in the expert- installer. Unfortunately I can't tell you right now if these drivers are in the d-i kernel (have to run to work), they certainly are in the prepackaged kernels (for x86 anyway :-). I've Cc'ed debian-powerpc, perhaps some one can tell you right away. Best regards, Shyamal
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: >> I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade >> to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I >> have so far been unable to resolve. (See Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was "sarge >> install help on 9600MP") > > According to your message, your network card (mace) was not > detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer > you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for > the mace driver.) I downloaded an install iso from that site, not sure exactly which one. The md5 sum of the iso I used is: MD5 (sarge-powerpc-1.iso) = a618fe6371390f2673b729ce673c3715 I couldn't find md5 sums for the iso's that are available to nail down exactly which one I used. > If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/images/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ Thanks for the pointer. I haven't tried floppy booting, but I don't think that will help, because the problem is not booting, but later on during the install process. Could the problem be related to the fact that I have an add-on pci NIC inside the case in addition to the mc0 on-board interface? Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated, -russ
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
"Russell" == Russell McManus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> Thanks for taking an interest. Much appreciated. Russell> eth0: MACE at 00:05:02:76:a5:13, chip revision 25.64 Russell> eth1: Digital DS21143 Tulip rev 48 at 0xd1465000, Russell> 08:00:2B:C5:A1:92, IRQ 29. Russell> Any voodoo I can do from the command line to get these Russell> cards recognized once I've successfully booted the Russell> install kernel? I don't know this hardware very well, but I believe you are looking for either the 'tulip' or 'de4x5' drivers (quick Google search). Your best bet would be to look at the YDL dmesg output to see what driver is good for you card (presumably this works on YDL?). Then switch to a virtual console in d-i at some point (after hardware detection) and try doing insmod to see if it comes up. There might be an easier way to try this in the expert- installer. Unfortunately I can't tell you right now if these drivers are in the d-i kernel (have to run to work), they certainly are in the prepackaged kernels (for x86 anyway :-). I've Cc'ed debian-powerpc, perhaps some one can tell you right away. Best regards, Shyamal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
Holger Levsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: >> I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade >> to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I >> have so far been unable to resolve. (See Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was "sarge >> install help on 9600MP") > > According to your message, your network card (mace) was not > detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer > you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for > the mace driver.) I downloaded an install iso from that site, not sure exactly which one. The md5 sum of the iso I used is: MD5 (sarge-powerpc-1.iso) = a618fe6371390f2673b729ce673c3715 I couldn't find md5 sums for the iso's that are available to nail down exactly which one I used. > If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/images/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ Thanks for the pointer. I haven't tried floppy booting, but I don't think that will help, because the problem is not booting, but later on during the install process. Could the problem be related to the fact that I have an add-on pci NIC inside the case in addition to the mc0 on-board interface? Thanks for taking the time to reply, much appreciated, -russ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
Hi Russel, cc:ed cause I'm not sure wether you read the list... On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: > I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade > to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I > have so far been unable to resolve. (See Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was "sarge > install help on 9600MP") According to your message, your network card (mace) was not detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for the mace driver.) If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/images/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ > So I would like to ask: are there any nifty ways to install sarge from > a running, non-debian system? You could also bootstrap your system as Shyamal Prasa suggested. regards, Holger
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
Hi Russel, cc:ed cause I'm not sure wether you read the list... On Monday 10 January 2005 03:17, Russell McManus wrote: > I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade > to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I > have so far been unable to resolve. (See Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was "sarge > install help on 9600MP") According to your message, your network card (mace) was not detected. But you didn't tell which version of the debian-installer you've tried. Did you try the release candidate 2 from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer ? (it has support for the mace driver.) If your system can only boot from floppy, you could also try http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-powerpc/rc2/images/powerpc/floppy-2.4/ > So I would like to ask: are there any nifty ways to install sarge from > a running, non-debian system? You could also bootstrap your system as Shyamal Prasa suggested. regards, Holger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto move from yellow dog -> debian
"Russell" == Russell McManus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Russell> I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd Russell> like to upgrade to sarge. But I had some trouble with Russell> the sarge install cd, which I have so far been unable to Russell> resolve. (See Message-ID: Russell> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was Russell> "sarge install help on 9600MP") I can't find the article - do you have a link? Russell> So I would like to ask: are there any nifty ways to Russell> install sarge from a running, non-debian system? You can deboostrap the install from the running system. See for example http://www.inittab.de/manuals/debootstrap.html and http://www.burgettsys.com/stories/59455/ for some ideas, and improvise from there. I had to this recently because the installer would not boot my hardware, and I used a Gentoo live CD (which did boot) to install so I had a host system on which to build a patched Debian kernel. Not knowing what your exact problem is I can't really recommend this step unless it is the only way out. But it works ;-) Cheers! Shyamal
howto move from yellow dog -> debian
I've got a 9600/MP running yellow dog linux, that I'd like to upgrade to sarge. But I had some trouble with the sarge install cd, which I have so far been unable to resolve. (See Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, subject line was "sarge install help on 9600MP") So I would like to ask: are there any nifty ways to install sarge from a running, non-debian system? -russ
