Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-04 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le vendredi, 4 décembre 2020, 11.09:50 h CET Till Kamppeter a écrit :
> Where do your man page translations reside? In the Debian packaging GIT
> repo or in the CUPS upstream repo? Does the CUPS upstream repo contain
> any man page translations?
> 
> The correct place would be the CUPS upstream repo as the original
> English man pages are part of CUPS.

I seem to remember (but can't find an issue) that upstream refused the manpage 
translation infrastructure, which stays Debian-specific.

The files are in ./debian/manpage-po4a/

Regards,
OdyX

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-04 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Till,
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:09:50AM +0100, Till Kamppeter wrote:
> On 03/12/2020 19:44, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > Are the man page translation are also transferred there? If so, would
> > it be possible that I continue to (dirictly) manage it (i.e. keep the
> > translation current)?

> Where do your man page translations reside? In the Debian packaging GIT repo
> or in the CUPS upstream repo? Does the CUPS upstream repo contain any man
> page translations?

As far as I remember, (previous) upstream did not accept to host the
translations and thus the French and German man page translations are
contained (only) in the Debian repository. You can find them under
debian/manpage-po4a/

> The correct place would be the CUPS upstream repo as the original English
> man pages are part of CUPS.

Yes, I agree, this way all distros (and possibly other downstreams)
would benefit.

So if you decide to take over these translation I would ask to obtain
write access to continue to maintain the translation in place as I've
done in the last 12 years or so.

Thanks.

Greetings

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-04 Thread Till Kamppeter

On 03/12/2020 19:44, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:

Thanks for the explanation.

Are the man page translation are also transferred there? If so, would
it be possible that I continue to (dirictly) manage it (i.e. keep the
translation current)?

Greetings

Helge



Where do your man page translations reside? In the Debian packaging GIT 
repo or in the CUPS upstream repo? Does the CUPS upstream repo contain 
any man page translations?


The correct place would be the CUPS upstream repo as the original 
English man pages are part of CUPS.


   Till



Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-03 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Till,
On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 09:46:39PM +0100, Till Kamppeter wrote:
> Apple seems to have stopped developing CUPS since Michael Sweet has left
> Apple in the end of 2019.
> 
> After some time I have created together with Michael Sweet a fork of the
> CUPS upstream repository on OpenPrinting:
> 
> https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups
> 
> Michael Sweet is actively applying pull requests from the former Apple
> repository, fixing bugs, and applying distro patches in this new upstream.

Thanks for the explanation.

Are the man page translation are also transferred there? If so, would
it be possible that I continue to (dirictly) manage it (i.e. keep the
translation current)?

Greetings

   Helge

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-03 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Didier,
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 09:58:12AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mercredi, 2 décembre 2020, 21.07:35 h CET Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> > Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 19:54:52)
> > >  ! [remote rejected] debian/main -> debian/main (pre-receive hook
> > >  declined)> 
> > > error: failed to push some refs to
> > > 'salsa.debian.org:printing-team/cups.git'
> > > 
> > > Is there some additional configuration you or I need to perform?
> > 
> > Looks like (as the error message says) you are not permitted to push
> > directly to that branch.
> > 
> > I don't know if that is intentional: Let's wait for Didier...
> 
> It was not, sorry. I changed the protected branches' configuration now.

Works now, thanks!

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-03 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 2 décembre 2020, 21.07:35 h CET Jonas Smedegaard a écrit :
> Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 19:54:52)
> 
> > Hello Jonas,
> > 
> > On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > > Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2020-12-02 18:49:29)
> > > 
> > > > Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 18:32:41)
> > > > 
> > > > > I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot
> > > > > reach
> > > > > that branch:
> > > > > $ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main
> > > > 
> > > > Above would checkout debian/main (not debian/master
> > > > 
> > > > try this:
> > > >   LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/master
> > > 
> > > Arrgh - there was nothing wrong with your command, sorry for the
> > > confusion.
> > > 
> > > Try this to refresh what is available at the remote side:
> > >   git fetch
> > > 
> > > and then this to checkout the new HEAD named the same locally:
> > >   git checkout debian/main
> > 
> > But I cannot push:
> > $ LC_ALL=C git push
> > Enumerating objects: 13, done.
> > Counting objects: 100% (13/13), done.
> > Delta compression using up to 4 threads
> > Compressing objects: 100% (7/7), done.
> > Writing objects: 100% (7/7), 1.18 KiB | 603.00 KiB/s, done.
> > Total 7 (delta 5), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
> > remote: GitLab: You are not allowed to push code to protected branches on
> > this project. To salsa.debian.org:printing-team/cups.git
> > 
> >  ! [remote rejected] debian/main -> debian/main (pre-receive hook
> >  declined)> 
> > error: failed to push some refs to
> > 'salsa.debian.org:printing-team/cups.git'
> > 
> > Is there some additional configuration you or I need to perform?
> 
> Looks like (as the error message says) you are not permitted to push
> directly to that branch.
> 
> I don't know if that is intentional: Let's wait for Didier...

It was not, sorry. I changed the protected branches' configuration now.

Cheers,
OdyX

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 19:54:52)
> Hello Jonas,
> On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2020-12-02 18:49:29)
> > > Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 18:32:41)
> > > > I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot reach
> > > > that branch:
> > > > $ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main
> > > 
> > > Above would checkout debian/main (not debian/master
> > > 
> > > try this:
> > > 
> > >   LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/master
> > 
> > Arrgh - there was nothing wrong with your command, sorry for the 
> > confusion.
> > 
> > Try this to refresh what is available at the remote side:
> > 
> >   git fetch
> > 
> > and then this to checkout the new HEAD named the same locally:
> > 
> >   git checkout debian/main
> 
> But I cannot push:
> $ LC_ALL=C git push
> Enumerating objects: 13, done.
> Counting objects: 100% (13/13), done.
> Delta compression using up to 4 threads
> Compressing objects: 100% (7/7), done.
> Writing objects: 100% (7/7), 1.18 KiB | 603.00 KiB/s, done.
> Total 7 (delta 5), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
> remote: GitLab: You are not allowed to push code to protected branches on 
> this project.
> To salsa.debian.org:printing-team/cups.git
>  ! [remote rejected] debian/main -> debian/main (pre-receive hook 
> declined)
> error: failed to push some refs to 'salsa.debian.org:printing-team/cups.git'
> 
> Is there some additional configuration you or I need to perform?

Looks like (as the error message says) you are not permitted to push 
directly to that branch.

I don't know if that is intentional: Let's wait for Didier...


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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-02 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Jonas,
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2020-12-02 18:49:29)
> > Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 18:32:41)
> > > I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot reach
> > > that branch:
> > > $ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main
> > 
> > Above would checkout debian/main (not debian/master
> > 
> > try this:
> > 
> >   LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/master
> 
> Arrgh - there was nothing wrong with your command, sorry for the 
> confusion.
> 
> Try this to refresh what is available at the remote side:
> 
>   git fetch
> 
> and then this to checkout the new HEAD named the same locally:
> 
>   git checkout debian/main

But I cannot push:
$ LC_ALL=C git push
Enumerating objects: 13, done.
Counting objects: 100% (13/13), done.
Delta compression using up to 4 threads
Compressing objects: 100% (7/7), done.
Writing objects: 100% (7/7), 1.18 KiB | 603.00 KiB/s, done.
Total 7 (delta 5), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
remote: GitLab: You are not allowed to push code to protected branches on this 
project.
To salsa.debian.org:printing-team/cups.git
 ! [remote rejected] debian/main -> debian/main (pre-receive hook declined)
error: failed to push some refs to 'salsa.debian.org:printing-team/cups.git'

Is there some additional configuration you or I need to perform?

Greetings

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-02 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Jonas,
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2020-12-02 18:49:29)
> > Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 18:32:41)
> > > I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot reach
> > > that branch:
> > > $ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main
> > 
> > Above would checkout debian/main (not debian/master
> > 
> > try this:
> > 
> >   LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/master
> 
> Arrgh - there was nothing wrong with your command, sorry for the 
> confusion.
> 
> Try this to refresh what is available at the remote side:
> 
>   git fetch
> 
> and then this to checkout the new HEAD named the same locally:
> 
>   git checkout debian/main

This worked, thank you very much!

Greetings

 Helge


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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-02 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Jonas,
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:49:29PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 18:32:41)
> > I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot reach
> > that branch:
> > $ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main
> 
> Above would checkout debian/main (not debian/master
> 
> try this:
> 
>   LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/master

Oops, yes. This produced a result. But somehow this was not enough:

$ LC_ALL=C  git pull
Your configuration specifies to merge with the ref 'refs/heads/debian/master'
from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.


> NB! Normally on Debian lists it is expected that participants in 
> conversations are all subscribed, and it is considered best practice to 
> _not_ cc individuals.
> 
> I made an exception here and in previous post of mine, because I am 
> unsure if you are subscribed - but please don't add others that are :-)

Apologies. I properly configured this list as list and will reply to
it only. At least as long Ody spam filter is blocking my e-mail
address.

Greetings

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonas Smedegaard (2020-12-02 18:49:29)
> Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 18:32:41)
> > I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot reach
> > that branch:
> > $ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main
> 
> Above would checkout debian/main (not debian/master
> 
> try this:
> 
>   LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/master

Arrgh - there was nothing wrong with your command, sorry for the 
confusion.

Try this to refresh what is available at the remote side:

  git fetch

and then this to checkout the new HEAD named the same locally:

  git checkout debian/main

Or alternatively, if you get lost, make a fresh clone:

  git clone https://salsa.debian.org/printing-team/cups.git

  
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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-02 18:32:41)
> I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot reach
> that branch:
> $ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main

Above would checkout debian/main (not debian/master

try this:

  LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/master


NB! Normally on Debian lists it is expected that participants in 
conversations are all subscribed, and it is considered best practice to 
_not_ cc individuals.

I made an exception here and in previous post of mine, because I am 
unsure if you are subscribed - but please don't add others that are :-)


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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-02 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Didier,
On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 08:36:15AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> On 01/12/2020 21:37, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > I daily mirror the cups git repository, but for quite some time no
> > changes appeard, however, some kind of message which I could not
> > figure out:
> > Your configuration specifies to merge with the ref
> > 'refs/heads/debian/master' from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.
> > 
> > Today, I got an updated of cups (in stable) which, amongst others,
> > said:
> > * Refresh manpage translation pofiles for 2.3.3op1
> > 
> > Did the CUPS git repository change? Where can I find the current
> > (unstable) place to maitain the man page translation, whenever the
> > need arises (the upstream text change)?
> 
> That's my mistake; I switched the CUPS Debian repository to use "debian/main" 
> as HEAD branch, instead of "debian/master": 
> 
>   https://salsa.debian.org/printing-team/cups/-/tree/debian/main
> 
> You should have the rights to commit/push to that branch right away.
> 
> Sorry for not informing of this change around.

I apologize, I'm aware of the basics of git but somehow I cannot reach
that branch:
$ LC_ALL=C git checkout -b debian-master origin/debian/main
warning: refname 'origin/debian/main' is ambiguous.
warning: refname 'origin/debian/main' is ambiguous.
fatal: Ambiguous object name: 'origin/debian/main'.

$ LC_ALL=C git branch --set-upstream-to=origin/debian/main origin/debian/main
warning: refname 'origin/debian/main' is ambiguous.
fatal: Ambiguous object name: 'origin/debian/main'.

$ LC_ALL=C  git pull
There is no tracking information for the current branch.
Please specify which branch you want to merge with.
See git-pull(1) for details.

git pull  

If you wish to set tracking information for this branch you can do so with:

git branch --set-upstream-to=origin/ origin/debian/main

$ LC_ALL=C  git pull origin/debian/master debian-master
fatal: 'origin/debian/master' does not appear to be a git repository
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.

Could you kindly point me to the right sequence of commands. Thanks,
much appreciated.

> As for why your email didn't pass our servers' antispam, I can't really tell, 
> and I'm sorry. In case, don't hesitate to ping me on #debian-printing on IRC.

Maybe you could tell your spam filter to unblock my address? Anyhow, I
use this list in the future.

Greetings

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-01 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
On 01/12/2020 21:37, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> I daily mirror the cups git repository, but for quite some time no
> changes appeard, however, some kind of message which I could not
> figure out:
> Your configuration specifies to merge with the ref
> 'refs/heads/debian/master' from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.
> 
> Today, I got an updated of cups (in stable) which, amongst others,
> said:
> * Refresh manpage translation pofiles for 2.3.3op1
> 
> Did the CUPS git repository change? Where can I find the current
> (unstable) place to maitain the man page translation, whenever the
> need arises (the upstream text change)?

Hello Helge,

That's my mistake; I switched the CUPS Debian repository to use "debian/main" 
as HEAD branch, instead of "debian/master": 

https://salsa.debian.org/printing-team/cups/-/tree/debian/main

You should have the rights to commit/push to that branch right away.

Sorry for not informing of this change around.

As for why your email didn't pass our servers' antispam, I can't really tell, 
and I'm sorry. In case, don't hesitate to ping me on #debian-printing on IRC.


Best regards,

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-01 Thread Till Kamppeter
Apple seems to have stopped developing CUPS since Michael Sweet has left 
Apple in the end of 2019.


After some time I have created together with Michael Sweet a fork of the 
CUPS upstream repository on OpenPrinting:


https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups

Michael Sweet is actively applying pull requests from the former Apple 
repository, fixing bugs, and applying distro patches in this new upstream.


This is now the upstream of CUPS for many distributions, especially 
Debian and Ubuntu. The first release, 2.3.3op1 is the current release of 
Debian unstable now.


The Debian packaging GIT repository should have stayed the same as before.

See also my monthly news posts and Michael's announcements on 
https://openprinting.github.io/news/


   Till


On 01/12/2020 21:37, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:

Ok, thanks.


I daily mirror the cups git repository, but for quite some time no
changes appeard, however, some kind of message which I could not
figure out:
Your configuration specifies to merge with the ref 'refs/heads/debian/master'
from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.

Today, I got an updated of cups (in stable) which, amongst others,
said:
* Refresh manpage translation pofiles for 2.3.3op1

Did the CUPS git repository change? Where can I find the current
(unstable) place to maitain the man page translation, whenever the
need arises (the upstream text change)?

Thanks for the correct pointers

Helge





Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-01 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello Jonas,
On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 07:49:34PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-01 19:06:22)
> > sorry for "spamming" the list.
> 
> You're welcome to use the list for purposes like this.

Ok, thanks.


I daily mirror the cups git repository, but for quite some time no
changes appeard, however, some kind of message which I could not
figure out:
Your configuration specifies to merge with the ref 'refs/heads/debian/master'
from the remote, but no such ref was fetched.

Today, I got an updated of cups (in stable) which, amongst others,
said:
   * Refresh manpage translation pofiles for 2.3.3op1

Did the CUPS git repository change? Where can I find the current
(unstable) place to maitain the man page translation, whenever the
need arises (the upstream text change)?

Thanks for the correct pointers

   Helge

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Re: Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Helge Kreutzmann (2020-12-01 19:06:22)
> sorry for "spamming" the list.

You're welcome to use the list for purposes like this.


> I'm involved in parts of the CUPS stack and wanted to contact Odyx
> (Didier). However, my e-mail is rejected by his MTA:
>   me+deb...@odyx.org
> host mail.flosstools.org [185.15.229.223]
> SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined end of data:
> 554 5.7.1 Spam message rejected
> 
> Could you provide me an alternative way to reach him? Or could you 
> ask him to recheck his spam filters?

If you don't mind your conversation being public, then you are welcome 
to do the conversation here (which I guess Didier is subscribed to).

Otherwise, searching for "didier" at https://db.debian.org/ provides 
https://odyx.org/ which redirects to https://blog.odyx.org/ and also 
provides IRC nickname OdyX which you can try reach at the OFTC.net IRC 
network (if you are into that sort of thing).

Also, since I guess Dider is subscribed, he might share other ways to 
reach him (and now that I have quoted your post, there is a higher 
chance he will actually receive that content).


Hope that helps,

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Contact possibility for Odyx/Didier

2020-12-01 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
sorry for "spamming" the list.

I'm involved in parts of the CUPS stack and wanted to contact Odyx
(Didier). However, my e-mail is rejected by his MTA:
  me+deb...@odyx.org
host mail.flosstools.org [185.15.229.223]
SMTP error from remote mail server after pipelined end of data:
554 5.7.1 Spam message rejected

Could you provide me an alternative way to reach him? Or could you 
ask him to recheck his spam filters?

Thanks for your assisstance.

Greetings

  Helge
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