Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian
[Ob-lists: if replying publicly, please reply to -devel only] Farideh Sherbaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Linux Developer and Distributor, Hi, Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Farideh Sherbaf and I am your contact for EPSON Worldwide Developer Relations for scanners and All-In-One (Multifunction) products. The EPSON Developer Relations Group would like to obtain your feedback on your support of scanners in the Linux environment. I am the maintainer of the SANE packages in the Debian distribution ; nice to see some communication from Epson Kowa ! SANE maintainer hat on Your prompt answers to the following questions are appreciated (Yes/No): 1. Do you include the SANE backend (scanner driver) within your Linux distribution package? Yes. This is a must-have for any Linux distribution that wants to be used on the desktop. 2. Which SANE frontends (applications) do you include within your Linux distribution package? The standard frontends from the SANE project are available (scanimage, scanadf, xscanimage, xcam, saned), along with XSane, QuiteInsane and Kooka. 3. Do you include Epson's Image Scan! for Linux? (Image Scan! for Linux is a graphical frontend for Epson scanners.) No. Although further explanation does not seem to be requested by your survey, let me explain why the Epson Kowa backend and frontend aren't included in Debian. To be included in the Debian distribution, a software basically needs to fulfill 2 conditions : - its license must be considered Free by Debian (see [1] for details) - somebody has to volunteer to maintain the packages The latter would probably be no problem for the Epson Kowa softwares if the former point was fulfilled. The Epson Kowa Public License that covers the distribution of the Epson Kowa softwares isn't Free ; it forbids reverse-engineering or any form of analysis of the binary-only modules that ship with the software. This is the first showstopper. The second one is that the source distribution ships binary-only modules, which makes it impossible to build the softwares for anything else than Linux/x86 ; in its latest release, Debian supports 11 hardware architectures, and portability is something very important for us. We have a special section in our archive for softwares that do not meet our requirements in terms of license, but are nonetheless freely redistributable and potentially useful to our users ; it's the non-free section. Should somebody be willing to maintain packages of the Epson Kowa softwares, they could be included in the non-free section. However, note that the non-free section isn't distributed on the release CDs. Now, apart from this, looking at my 6-months-old notes on the subject, it seems that the scanners supported by the Epson Kowa backend are already supported (to some point) by the regular SANE backends. The same applies to the frontend, with the powerful frontends already available. Again, my notes are somewhat dated by now, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this point. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Regards, JB. [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s2.1.1 -- Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169
MPE ???
Title: MPE ??? Hi I've just been looking at your website as I'm considering getting and implementing a Linux Bases server for our office. And could be considering your Linux Operating system. And I noticed that you have some thing Called MPE-Source. I cant seem to find much information on your website with regards To your MPE. This is of great interest to me as we have several HP3000 systems that use the HP MPE/ix "Multi Programming Executive / with POSIX" as their operating system. In their Various versions the latest being MPE/ix 7.5 As you may or may not be aware HP is obsolescing MPE/ix this there Proprietary Operating System, For the Entire HP3000 Platform. And I was wondering if your MPE-source was the actual Source to HP's MPE/ix operating system from one of their versions even the 7.5 incarnation. That could possibly run within a Shell within Debian Linux its self and be capable of running Programs made and compiled for use originally on the HP3000 platform. I look forwards to your response, as I would be very interested if this is actually the case, along with the thousands of MPE users World Wide Thanks in advance Mick Michael green azurri Computer Systems Ltd The Design Centre Bernsteins Campus Great Bank Road Wingates industrial park Westhoughton Bolton BL5 3XU phone : 01942 845374 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Private and Confidential This e-mail may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. It must not be used by, or its contents copied or disclosed to persons other than the intended recipient. Any liability (in negligence or otherwise) arising from any third party acting, or refraining from acting, on any information contained in this e-mail is excluded. The views expressed may not be official company policy but, instead, the personal views of the originator. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the sender and delete the e-mail. -
Re: MPE ???
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 03:37:00PM +0100, Michael Green wrote: I've just been looking at your website as I'm considering getting and implementing a Linux Bases server for our office. And could be considering your Linux Operating system. And I noticed that you have some thing Called MPE-Source. I cant seem to find much information on your website with regards To your MPE. Here's the package's control record: Package: mpe-source Priority: extra Section: devel Installed-Size: 5776 Maintainer: Adam C. Powell, IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: all Source: mpich Version: 1.2.5-5 Filename: pool/main/m/mpich/mpe-source_1.2.5-5_all.deb Size: 5862290 MD5sum: 5fd2d55e5335fda75520c2ca741d78f9 Description: Source for MPE, for other package to build-depend This package includes the source to MPE, so that other package can build MPE Build-depending in this package. . MPE is a set of tools to profile MPI (Message Passing Interface) programs, and other tools, useful in debugging MPI applications. It doesn't sound like this is related to HP's MPE/ix, sorry. As you may or may not be aware HP is obsolescing MPE/ix this there Proprietary Operating System, For the Entire HP3000 Platform. And I was wondering if your MPE-source was the actual Source to HP's MPE/ix operating system from one of their versions even the 7.5 incarnation. We wouldn't include a proprietary system in our main distribution, since that consists entirely of free software; although I haven't looked at it, it's unlikely that we'd even get permission to distribute a proprietary operating system in non-free. Perhaps HP themselves would be the best people to ask about this? Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian
Dear Matt, Thank you for responding to my email. I will use Julien as scanner contact person. However, if possible I appreciate if I could also obtain your signature info for our database. Best regards, Farideh - Original Message - From: Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Farideh Sherbaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-project@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ray Hsu [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Farideh Sherbaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 8:09 PM Subject: Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 04:15:25PM -0700, Farideh Sherbaf wrote: Dear Linux Developer and Distributor, Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Farideh Sherbaf and I am your contact for EPSON Worldwide Developer Relations for scanners and All-In-One (Multifunction) products. The EPSON Developer Relations Group would like to obtain your feedback on your support of scanners in the Linux environment. Your prompt answers to the following questions are appreciated (Yes/No): 1. Do you include the SANE backend (scanner driver) within your Linux distribution package? 2. Which SANE frontends (applications) do you include within your Linux distribution package? 3. Do you include Epson's Image Scan! for Linux? (Image Scan! for Linux is a graphical frontend for Epson scanners.) I have forwarded your request to the developer responsible for SANE in Debian, Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- - mdz
Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian
Dear Julien, Thank you for responding to my email. We understand the existing issues which you have explained below and to make this more clear is that EPSON Kowa handles the License agreement. We have nothing to do with the licensing agreement for the Image Scan! for Linux. We're sure that there are reasons behind it since Linux is an open source. However, if you are still interested and would like to discuss this further, please contact EPSON Kowa directly. We appreciate if you could cc: us on the communication between yourself and EPSON Kowa. It is indeed a pleasure getting to know you and please feel free to contact me at anytime. We will do our best to help. http://www.epkowa.co.jp/english/linux_e/lsd_dwn_e.html You may use the software subject to the three licenses below depending on configured module. GNU General Public License GNU Lesser General Public License EPSON KOWA Public License Best regards, Farideh Sherbaf (Ms.) Sr. Product Engineer EPSON Worldwide Developer Relations 150 River Oaks Parkway, Suite #200 San Jose, CA 95134 Tel: 408-576-4135 Fax: 408-474-0511 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ - Original Message - From: Julien BLACHE [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Farideh Sherbaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-project@lists.debian.org; debian-devel@lists.debian.org Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 3:05 AM Subject: Re: EPSON appreciates your feedback by June 30, '03 - Debian [Ob-lists: if replying publicly, please reply to -devel only] Farideh Sherbaf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Linux Developer and Distributor, Hi, Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Farideh Sherbaf and I am your contact for EPSON Worldwide Developer Relations for scanners and All-In-One (Multifunction) products. The EPSON Developer Relations Group would like to obtain your feedback on your support of scanners in the Linux environment. I am the maintainer of the SANE packages in the Debian distribution ; nice to see some communication from Epson Kowa ! SANE maintainer hat on Your prompt answers to the following questions are appreciated (Yes/No): 1. Do you include the SANE backend (scanner driver) within your Linux distribution package? Yes. This is a must-have for any Linux distribution that wants to be used on the desktop. 2. Which SANE frontends (applications) do you include within your Linux distribution package? The standard frontends from the SANE project are available (scanimage, scanadf, xscanimage, xcam, saned), along with XSane, QuiteInsane and Kooka. 3. Do you include Epson's Image Scan! for Linux? (Image Scan! for Linux is a graphical frontend for Epson scanners.) No. Although further explanation does not seem to be requested by your survey, let me explain why the Epson Kowa backend and frontend aren't included in Debian. To be included in the Debian distribution, a software basically needs to fulfill 2 conditions : - its license must be considered Free by Debian (see [1] for details) - somebody has to volunteer to maintain the packages The latter would probably be no problem for the Epson Kowa softwares if the former point was fulfilled. The Epson Kowa Public License that covers the distribution of the Epson Kowa softwares isn't Free ; it forbids reverse-engineering or any form of analysis of the binary-only modules that ship with the software. This is the first showstopper. The second one is that the source distribution ships binary-only modules, which makes it impossible to build the softwares for anything else than Linux/x86 ; in its latest release, Debian supports 11 hardware architectures, and portability is something very important for us. We have a special section in our archive for softwares that do not meet our requirements in terms of license, but are nonetheless freely redistributable and potentially useful to our users ; it's the non-free section. Should somebody be willing to maintain packages of the Epson Kowa softwares, they could be included in the non-free section. However, note that the non-free section isn't distributed on the release CDs. Now, apart from this, looking at my 6-months-old notes on the subject, it seems that the scanners supported by the Epson Kowa backend are already supported (to some point) by the regular SANE backends. The same applies to the frontend, with the powerful frontends already available. Again, my notes are somewhat dated by now, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this point. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Regards, JB. [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s2.1.1 -- Julien BLACHE - Debian GNU/Linux Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public key available on http://www.jblache.org - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79F1 C8B3 3521 FD62 7CC7 CD61 4FD7 F5D6 5169
