Sparc

2003-10-14 Thread Rafael Ganascim

Ola 

Meu nome é Anderson e tenho uma SUN Netra I e estou a procura de um sistema 
para colocar nela, e gostaria de instalar Debian ou Conectiva ou alguma 
coisa do genero ...eu tinha um RedHat a algum tempo atraz instalado nela, 
mas acabei perdendo os CDS ...


Se puderem me ajudar me indicando onde e qual sistema consigo baixar e 
instalar agradeço ..


Anderson !



Bug#210879: Leave this bug closed PLEASE

2003-10-14 Thread Robert Woodcock
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 01:51:40PM -0400, Alfie Costa wrote:
> a sane man (that's you) doesn't reply to an insane one (mea culpa!).

I love this. If you declare yourself insane, you can immediately discredit
anyone who calls you on it.
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Bug#210879: Leave this bug closed PLEASE

2003-10-14 Thread Alfie Costa
On 12 Oct 2003, at 3:36, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> ...one lone noisy paranoid...
> ...irrelevent minutia...
> ...ranting...
> 
> ...you're wrong...
> ...schizophrenia...
> ...Sr. De La Mancha...
> ...windmills...

Ouch!

BTW Chris, "one lone... paranoid" is tautological.  Basically your whole
message is: "he's crazy".  Who'd you write it for?  Me?  Can't be... a sane
man (that's you) doesn't reply to an insane one (mea culpa!).  Other BTS 
readers?  
Ah, but ragging on the insane would be abusing the BTS.

Or maybe you're exaggerating for dramatic effect because you disagree 
vehemently
about the issue itself, yet lack the words and concepts to express your denial 
in a 
more productive manner?  Nh!



Bug#210879: Reopen: revise odd language in 'constitution.txt' -- "K Developers" ... "not integers"

2003-10-14 Thread MJ Ray

On 2003-10-14 18:51:40 +0100 Alfie Costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Are you familiar with the passage in question?


I believe so.  I cannot read Manoj's mind either, however, so cannot 
determine his opinion of it, other than as expressed.



'aristocrat' was a tweak at Manoj's philosophy


Please keep such convoluted personal attacks completely off of the 
BTS.  (That applies to all, of course.)


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Bug#210879: Reopen: revise odd language in 'constitution.txt' -- "K Developers" ... "not integers"

2003-10-14 Thread Alfie Costa
On 12 Oct 2003, at 11:58, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think that it is considerably more likely that Manoj read them and 
> just doesn't think you answer his request properly.

Are you familiar with the passage in question?

> I am extremely incensed by your comparison of your treatment 
> to the class struggle...

Sorry to have incensed you by trivializing the class struggle!  The use of 
'aristocrat' was a tweak at Manoj's philosophy, who in a Slashdot thread once  
quoted Ayn Rand, then compared the Debian developers to an aristocratic 
meritocracy.



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Re: Debian(tm) and cybersquatters

2003-10-14 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2003-10-03 kello 14:48, Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
kirjoitti:
> * Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-09-17 13:08]:
> > I don't know if it is relevant that debian.fi was registered two weeks
> > ago by someone in Finlan. The rules for new domains in .fi were relaxed
> > on that day.
> 
> Could you contact him and politely ask what he intends to do with the
> domain?

I finally did this. I had some trouble being awake and not horribly busy
at times during which it is polite to call other people on the phone.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] told me on the phone that the company who registered it
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Re: Skolelinux and the "Debian Labs" idea

2003-10-14 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
* Anthony Towns  [2003-10-09 17:15]:
> I suspect that HP shareholders think that they're using HP research labs
> to make a profit.

Sure, but they don't make a profit *directly*.  They're not selling
any stuff, they just do R&D.  Other parts of HP sell what they've
developed.

> Certainly it'd be reasonable to restrict "Debian Labs" to groups
> that are doing R&D rather than sales. Do you want to limit
> consulting work too though?

Well, if we don't, then any Debian consulting business can call
themselves "Debian Labs" which is not what I'd like to see (if they do
100% consulting and don't put any work into Debian).  Perhaps
consulting should be possible, as long as R&D is the main focus?

> If I've got $50k to spend getting, say, Gnucash improved to better
> handle Australian accounting rules [0], does it make any real sense to
> exclude Debian Labs from any possiblity of working on it? If you do want

No, I think that's perfectly valid.  

> > Labs), but they shouldn't use HP Debian Labs direcetly to sell any
> > services or products.
> 
> Not even Debian stable CDs? Why not, exactly? What conflict of interest do
> you see here?

Well, okay.  They can surely sell Debian CDs in order to fund more
R&D.  (But they shouldn't call themselved "Debian Labs" in order to be
in a better position to sell CDs in order to make a profit.)

> (For reference, I joined Debian specifically because it doesn't
> discriminate against people trying to make money out of free
> software, even by building proprietary software on top of it --
> indeed, we go so far as to explicitly support such uses in a few
> ways)

Sure, I have no problem with this.  But Debian (the project) doesn't
make money out of what we do, and you could argue the same should
apply to a Debian Labs (this is a big difference between Debian and
Red Hat/Fedor, btw).

> is their any salary limit? How about if they do it cheaper than any
> competing support organisations, but still make a profit?

Then they should clearly use the money (profit) to fund more R&D.

> I agree (presuming the .5:.5 ratio is determined by the contributor,
> and can be 0:1 or 1:0 etc).

Yes, it should be up to the contributor.  Debian can just make a
suggestion; what they do is completely up to them.

> FWIW, I'm in favour of requiring Debian Labs to be R&D focussed and to
> employ full time researchers, to provide debs of everything they develop,
> to focus on getting their successful research into main, and letting
...
> Solitaire all year", eg. But we shouldn't force them to ever say "no"
> to money for working on things that actually improve Debian, imo.

Right, I agree.

(I know I didn't respond to all questions, but I don't actually have
answers for all of them.  I think your comments are incredibly useful
for this discussions, though, and hope others will comment on them.)

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