Re: Debian Sarge does not have either version of apt-proxy

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Bell
On Mon 11 Oct, Florian Weimer wrote:
 
 * Chris Bell:
 
  The earlier 1.3.x version may not be perfect, but it does work for
  me, and I have not found any other software that does the same job.
 
 AFAIK, apt-proxy 1.9 is only required if you have apt 0.6 somewhere on
 your site.  apt-proxy 1.3 is fine with apt 0.5, but much too often, it
 returns inconsistent Release/Release.gpg/Packages combinations.
 
 
   Thanks for the email.

   The main reason for using apt-proxy to provide a local partial mirror is
that I can configure a list of parent mirror sites that it can try in
sequence, rather than having to specify a single source. I can then ask
apt-proxy to check mirrors provided by my ISP and local universitites before
adding to the load on the Debian servers. This appears to work when
upgrading several local machines, or using jigdo to build CD ISO images,
although I have not yet succeeded in using apt-proxy during an initial
network installation to a new box. I would be happy to try any more suitable
system that may be available.

-- 
Chris Bell



Re: Patent clauses in licenses

2004-10-12 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 02:12:16PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote:
 By comparison, how does debian protect the freedom to vote against 
 software patent supporters in our legislatures? That's clearly an 
 issue affecting free software, but we don't take specific action to 
 protect it.

We don't have to: nothing Debian is doing or refusing to do is affecting it.

Debian's distribution or lack of distribution will have a direct impact on
the success of these clauses.  Debian has no choice but to take specific
action: either it allows them, or it rejects them, and either is an action
with a direct effect on this.  Accepting them is prosecuting, rejecting
is protecting, if you want.

We don't have a position on this, so we're going to refuse to distribute
it and remain neutral won't work.

 This all hinges on whether we consider using copyright law against 
 other law reasonable then?

The critical question seems to be whether restricting patent enforcement
is free.  I still don't see how it matters which set of laws is used to
apply a restriction, as far as DFSG-freeness goes; it's the restriction
itself that matters.

(Of course, it may be unenforcable, but that's a separate issue.)

-- 
Glenn Maynard



Re: Reiser4 filesystem

2004-10-12 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Aldous Huxley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-10-12 14:46]:
 Is Debian planning on using this filesystem for it's
 next stable release?

We will ship a kernel-patch-2.6-reiser4 package with which you can
easily build a kernel with reiser4 support.  However, we won't provide
reiser4 support in our standard kernel until the code has been
accepted upstream by the kernel developers (and it seems this won't
happen soon).

-- 
Martin Michlmayr
http://www.cyrius.com/