Re: Debian UK (was Re: What the DFSG really says about trademarks)

[MJ Ray]

Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [DUS expenses]
> Ok.  I certainly wouldn't call "items for sale" a case of "spending on
> itself", though; and at least in the US, I suspect these expenses might
> be accounted for in a somewhat different fashion than the breakdown
> given above.  (But perhaps someone with more accounting experience than
> I could check me on that.)

In the UK, they'd probably appear differently on a balance sheet too.
Are you looking at the accounts for information, or to fill out a
form, though?

[...]
> Well, looking through , I can't
> actually find anything that spells out how the UK decides whether a
> stated object is charitable, but I also definitely don't see anything in
> their example objects that would cover SPI's charter.  Education is one
> of SPI's stated objectives, yes, but advocacy is also, and it's my
> impression that advocacy is off-limits for UK charities.

Bluntly: why does that impression matter? I've encountered many
prejudices about charities, some of which are incorrect.

There is a rather fuzzy "benefit of the community"
charity heading, which is often under review. They also
change what counts as "political" (which isn't allowed for
charities). Explicitly trying to support or defeat legislation
seems clearly political, but more general direction of society
to be helpful (or charitable?) is sometimes allowed.

The only way to decide for sure seems to be to apply to the
commissioners, and a court if necessary beyond that. In many
circumstances, law says groups must apply for a decision,
but DUS won't and I'm not sure whether the call reported in
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/debian-uk/2005-August/010548.html
really happened or was a joke like much of the rest of that mail.

Best wishes,
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[OT] MJ Ray's continued burbling (was Re: Debian UK ....)

[Philip Hands]

MJ Ray wrote:
[...]
> In many
> circumstances, law says groups must apply for a decision,
> but DUS won't and I'm not sure whether the call reported in
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/debian-uk/2005-August/010548.html
> really happened or was a joke like much of the rest of that mail.

Why do you think that mail was a joke?

The only hint I can find would be the smile I attributed to the person I
was talking to at the charity commission.

Perhaps you don't get to experience many people smiling while they're in
conversation with you, and so cannot conceive of the concept, but since she
was laughing when she asked if she could join the Debian UK Society I
thought it only right to report that with a smiley INSIDE THE QUOTES.

The rest of the mail, in which I address all the complaints, whinges, and
unfounded assertions I could find in your previous deluge of mails
certainly wasn't meant to be jovial.

The fact that you feel the need to dismiss any criticism as a joke is
rather revealing.

Cheers, Phil.


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Philip Hands's continued messenger-shoot, was: [OT] MJ Ray's continued burbling (was Re: Debian UK ....)

[MJ Ray]

Philip Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do you think that mail was a joke? [...]

The poor attempt at telepathy, claiming someone said "BTW" and ":-)"
then rounding off by confirming that a constitution is required if
you ask for a bank account type that requires a constitution
(and exclude other bank account types by the question's wording).

> Perhaps you don't get to experience many people smiling while they're in
> conversation with you, [...]

Perhaps you only do character assassination when trying to ignore
a sensitive issue.

> The fact that you feel the need to dismiss any criticism as a joke is
> rather revealing.

Again, a claim of empathic ability fails dismally.

Are you upset that you contradicted your own assertion that DUS
doesn't hold personal details?

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Re: licence for wiki material (or lack thereof): a desperate plea

[Jon Dowland]

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:52:41PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:39:19 +0100 Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > I am happy to work on how to do this with moin moin but I need to
> > know that others agree this is necessary.
> 
> ...and I'd be happy to work with upstream to incorporate such
> improvement.
> 
> But perhaps it is already there - are you aware of the config options
> config_license_enabled and config_license_page ?

Hi - thank you for your support. I have written up the situation at
. I am basically awaiting a
response from someone in a position to either go ahead with the
suggestion or tell me where to stick it :)

Regarding the *_licence_* options: I was not aware, thank you. I did
some investigation and I believe the terms are actually
page_licence_enabled and page_licence_page. However, I have not managed
to get these to work myself (although I am no MoinMoin expert). Have you
any experience using these options yourself? (I found some discussion
about the arch wiki having similar licencing thoughts, although they do
not appear to have these variables active either).

[With apologies for any duplication.. I am currently facing mail problems.]

-- 
Jon Dowland
http://jon.dowland.name/


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