Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project
On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 06:16:43PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I'd like to ask that we keep the discussion period for this open until the SPI elections are completed and the new board has an opportunity to comment. While I have no interest in rushing this proposal to a vote, and would like for us to have ample time to consider all angles and options, I should also note that the SPI board has no say in Debian's technical or nontechnical decisions, including our foundation documents. That's true, but I think it's appropriate to give them a chance to voice that opinion as a group -- relationships don't work if the parties don't listen to each other, even when they don't have to. Is there something I am missing about why a Debian GR should wait until the SPI board has time to deliberate on it and tell us the results of their reflections? No, I don't think so. I just think it's valuable for us to make sure we have the benefit of their input. Cheers, aj signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project
* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [060722 01:20]: While I have no interest in rushing this proposal to a vote, and would like for us to have ample time to consider all angles and options, I should also note that the SPI board has no say in Debian's technical or nontechnical decisions, including our foundation documents. So current and prospective members of SPI's board may voice their opinions on this mailing list (as may anyone else, for that matter, since list posting is wide open), I see no reason to wait until SPI's board has made an official statement (since that has no bearing, etc). Is there something I am missing about why a Debian GR should wait until the SPI board has time to deliberate on it and tell us the results of their reflections? A GR should wait - within reasonable time - until developers can have the information they need for a informed decision. Changing something important like this without some statement from the people directly involved in this would otherwise look so rushed that at least my caution would default me to oppose any change. Hochachtungsvoll, Bernhard R. Link -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project
On Friday 21 July 2006 17:54, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:18:44 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I don't think it makes sense that the Debian constitution determines who can become a member of SPI. That is something that should be (and probably is) described in SPI's bylaws. This is true. There seems no reason to mention this in the constitution, since an action by the SPI board can change that, and the constitution amendment would be required to marry the constitution with reality. What would the seconders feel about deleting this sentence from the proposed draft? Yep, makes sense. Seconded as thus amended, with the editorial change proposed by vorlon as well (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Btw, I agree with ajt that the discussion period should be kept open until SPI board election is over. There's no need to wait for a statement of SPI (you say, correctly, that they don't have any official role in this process), but giving the newly elected board a week to comment if they like would be nice. cheers -- vbi -- Single tasking: Just Say No. pgp5cB1tZzJAQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project
On Saturday 22 July 2006 01:05, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Here is the latest draft of the proposal. [...] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Seconded. Nitpicking: move this space character +6. Together with the Project Leader make decisions about ^ to here: to be ownedby any of a number of organisations as detailed in + §9.2 ^ cheers -- vbi -- Der Schnupfen Ein Schnupfen hockt auf der Terasse, auf daß er sich ein Opfer fasse - und stürzt alsbald mit großem Grimm auf einen Menschen namens Schrimm. Paul Schrimm erwidert prompt: Pitschü! und hat ihn drauf bis Montag früh. -- Christian Morgenstern pgpt3fgL8pbxy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project
quote who=Manoj Srivastava date=Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 06:05:38PM -0500 At last count, the following had sconded the previous draft, I hope there is no problem with the changes made with this version. I have no problem with these changes. Regards, Mako -- Benjamin Mako Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mako.cc/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature