No more bugreports from me.

2006-08-15 Thread Magnus Berg
It's not fun to reports bugs to the Debian bug tracking system. The thanks you 
get is spam.
 I have a special e-mail address that I use then I'm little afraid that it 
becomes public. My intention is to change that address then it collect to 
much spam.
 But my latest contribution to the Debian bug tracking system was a big 
mistake. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=45480
 The report you can see was a ordinary e-mail sent to the maintainer of 
Aptitude. He saw it as a Dpkg thing and asked me if he could send it to the 
public dpkg list. I said O.K. Now you can think I have to blame myself but I 
could never thought about that he would include my personal information, 
including my main e-mail address, then he send it further to the public dpkg 
list. But he did.
 To avoid spam I send a mail, four days ago, to the Debian bug tracking system 
administrator and asked him to remove my personal information. I haven't 
heard from him and my personal information is still public in the bugreport.
 Today I got my first spam ever to my main e-mail address and now I'm very 
angry and dissatisfied. Spam should not be the drawback for reporting bugs, I 
think. And the Debian bug tracking system is not a place there I want to 
contribute anymore.

Magnus Berg
Burgsvik
SWEDEN


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News in etch

2006-08-15 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi!

With etch to be released really soon now (well... mor ore less ;) many
of us will be in the need of listing new features and other nifty stuff
etch will bring to our users; be it DDs invited to give a speach or
journalists writing articles.

Since it's quite hard to search all those nice things yourself
(especially since it's hard to find all interesting news in such a large
project), I started to list some stuff at
http://wiki.debian.org/NewInEtch.  Feel free to contribute other
interesting stuff to that page (and of course to use that page for your
work).


Yours sincerely,
  Alexander


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Re: No more bugreports from me.

2006-08-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 06:40, Magnus Berg wrote:
 It's not fun to reports bugs to the Debian bug tracking system. The thanks
 you get is spam.

That's the price you pay for participation on the internet in any capacity, 
the Debian BTS is not a special case.

  I have a special e-mail address that I use then I'm little afraid that it
 becomes public. My intention is to change that address then it collect to
 much spam.

http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful

Also check out spamassassin, it does pretty well even on spam forwarded by the 
BTS.

  The report you can see was a ordinary e-mail sent to the maintainer of
 Aptitude. He saw it as a Dpkg thing and asked me if he could send it to the
 public dpkg list. I said O.K. Now you can think I have to blame myself but
 I could never thought about that he would include my personal information,
 including my main e-mail address, then he send it further to the public
 dpkg list. But he did.

You said he could.  That's your fault.  Besides, the moment you ever used your 
email address it became public information.  Deal with it.

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Re: Help

2006-08-15 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tuesday 15 August 2006 06:10, Dawn Russo wrote:
 I am receiving emails advertising watches. There is no unsubscribe
 information. But when I highlight the bottom of the page it shows a partial
 address to email if you would like to unsubscribe, the email address is
 @lists.debian.org. However since it isn't complete, I can't send a message.

 PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE ME FROM ANY MAILING LISTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE MY NAME ON
 OR THE FOLLOWING EMAIL ADDRESS: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I DO NOT WANT TO BUY A WATCH. STOP HARRASSING ME.

Please do some basic research.  You do not do your professional or personal 
reputation, or the reputation of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society any 
credit by screaming and complaining about things that you do not seem to 
fully understand and that we cannot fix.

1) Debian does not sell watches (or any other product).

2) Debian has no interest in selling you a watch.

3) Typing in all capitals is screaming and generally considered, at best, 
about as professional as a six-year-old throwing a temper-tantrum.

You might want to see http://debian.org/ for what Debian is actually about, 
and learn how to trace back an email to it's source based on headers 
(http://www.stopspam.org/email/headers.html), since spammers always forge 
their email addresses to avoid prosecution and delay getting shut down by 
their ISPs for violating their terms of service.  Most ISPs prohibit 
spamming.

 Dawn Russo
 Dawn Russo, MSW
 Home LINKS Program Manager
 National Multiple Sclerosis Society
 Central New England Chapter
 101A First Avenue, Suite 6
 Waltham, MA 02451
 800-493-9255 ext 155
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Information provided by the National Multiple Sclerosis Society is based
 upon professional advice, published experience and expert opinion.
 Information provided in response to questions does not constitute
 therapeutic recommendations or prescriptions. The National Multiple
 Sclerosis Society recommends that all questions and information be
 discussed with a personal physician. Studies show that early and ongoing
 treatment with an FDA-approved therapy can reduce future disease activity
 and improve quality of life for many people with multiple sclerosis. Talk
 to your health care professional and contact the National MS Society at
 www.nationalmssociety.org or 1-800-FIGHT-MS to learn about ways to help
 manage multiple sclerosis and about current research that may one day
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Long, grandious, bandwidth-wasting signatures like this one do nothing to 
increase awareness and serve only to annoy and waste bandwidth when extended 
past four lines.  Check this out:  http://ursine.ca/McQuary_limit .  If you 
have a useful message, your signature isn't the place for it, that's what the 
body of your message is for, otherwise it's almost as bad as spamming is.  I 
would hope for the sake of MS patients that being self-interested and 
obnoxious really isn't how you conduct yourself and your org in person or on 
the internet.

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Re: No more bugreports from me.

2006-08-15 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello


  The report you can see was a ordinary e-mail sent to the maintainer of 
 Aptitude. He saw it as a Dpkg thing and asked me if he could send it to the 
 public dpkg list. I said O.K. Now you can think I have to blame myself but I 
 could never thought about that he would include my personal information, 
 including my main e-mail address, then he send it further to the public dpkg 
 list. But he did.
It sounds to me that there was a misunderstanding and this is most
unfortunate. However, misunderstanding happens, especially in written
language. Please do not blame the Aptitude maintainer for this, since he
probably thought, that your consent to forward your mail, covered the
full email.
However, in such a case it would be in my opinion most desirable, if the
BTS administrator could act quickly to remedy the situation (even though
the BTS is probably mirrored at various locations..).

Best regards 

Ben

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