Debian firefox
I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them to show their true colors. That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox into a new browser. One in which is truly free and embraces opensource. A few of us our starting a foundation of sorts unrelated to debian, but we are waiting for any new developments concerning the web browser issue. We hope to include a debain based opensource web browser. I am aware of the many opensource web browsers, but we do not wish to use gnome or kde just to use one browser. Please, challenge googlefox.. I mean firefox. The opensource movement will surely follow. Thanks best of luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firefox
On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 09:34:30PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them to show their true colors. That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox into a new browser. One in which is truly free and embraces opensource. I would like to propose a name: Debian WaterBuffalo Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian firefox
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:27:01PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I would like to propose a name: Debian WaterBuffalo I thought we already agreed on IceWeasel. :) -- Chris Waters | Pneumonoultra-osis is too long [EMAIL PROTECTED] | microscopicsilico-to fit into a single or [EMAIL PROTECTED] | volcaniconi- standalone haiku -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firefox
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 11:46:45AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote: On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:27:01PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: I would like to propose a name: Debian WaterBuffalo I thought we already agreed on IceWeasel. :) There was some discussion about potential Firefox replacement names a few days ago on IRC. I suggested WaterBuffalo and Manoj and a couple of other people really liked it. Just an idea. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian firefox
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them to show their true colors. That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox into a new browser. One in which is truly free and embraces opensource. Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since the code itself is still free. They just want to make sure, that a product wearing the official logo and carrying the official name actually *is* the official firefox. BTW, Debian has some restrictions too when you want to use the official logo. http://www.us.debian.org/logos/#official-use -- Bastian Venthur http://venthur.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DPL caretaking
Anthony Towns wrote: Sorry this took longer than I'd hoped. Anyway here's the caretaking stuff so we can get on with the DPL recall vote stuff without having to worry about things being left in the lurch. I'll be trying to avoid exercising any DPL powers from now until the votes are dealt with, assuming nothing insane pops up in the meantime. So 5 or Q or whatever it is people can block the DPL from doing anything for 1 or 2 months just by proposing a recall? Isn't that broken? -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian firefox
Hello Bastian, * Bastian Venthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-03 22:29]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them to show their true colors. That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox into a new browser. One in which is truly free and embraces opensource. Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since the code itself is still free. They just want to make sure, that a product wearing the official logo and carrying the official name actually *is* the official firefox. If you consider the logo as code (what I do) then its wrong, see: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622 Kind regards Nico -- Nico Golde - http://www.ngolde.de JAB: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - GPG: 0x73647CFF Forget about that mouse with 3/4/5 buttons, gimme a keyboard with 103/104/105 keys! pgpakdHShFTTS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DPL caretaking
Joey Hess wrote: Anthony Towns wrote: Sorry this took longer than I'd hoped. Anyway here's the caretaking stuff so we can get on with the DPL recall vote stuff without having to worry about things being left in the lurch. I'll be trying to avoid exercising any DPL powers from now until the votes are dealt with, assuming nothing insane pops up in the meantime. So 5 or Q or whatever it is people can block the DPL from doing anything for 1 or 2 months just by proposing a recall? Isn't that broken? From the way I read it, this was a choice AJ made out of respect for the opinion of those developers, not something he was constitutionally required to do. HTH, Benjamin signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Debian firefox
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 09:09:41PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since the code itself is still free. They just want to make sure, that a product wearing the official logo and carrying the official name actually *is* the official firefox. They also have an abysmally bad handling of security issues for everything that is not the latest and most shiny version. I don't know whether they're noticeably better for what they claim to support. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DPL caretaking
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:13:58 -0400, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Anthony Towns wrote: Sorry this took longer than I'd hoped. Anyway here's the caretaking stuff so we can get on with the DPL recall vote stuff without having to worry about things being left in the lurch. I'll be trying to avoid exercising any DPL powers from now until the votes are dealt with, assuming nothing insane pops up in the meantime. So 5 or Q or whatever it is people can block the DPL from doing anything for 1 or 2 months just by proposing a recall? Isn't that broken? Err, are you saying the DPL's decision is broken? Since it is aj's decision you are questioning now. As to the value of K, I think I would be happy with 2% replacing the hard coded 5 (and let there be anther value for the tech ctte if we need). L = 5 or 2%, whichever is larger. K = Q or L, whichever is smaller. Of course, this probably means joeyh shall killfile this thread too, since I am talking about the constitution. manoj -- The primary difference [...] is that the Java programm will reliably and obviously crash, whereas the C Program will do something obscure -- Java Language Tutorial Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/ 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firefox
Marc Haber wrote: They also have an abysmally bad handling of security issues for everything that is not the latest and most shiny version. I don't know whether they're noticeably better for what they claim to support. Maybe, but that was not my point. I somehow have the impression that some people think firefox is non-free (or sort of) just because Debian has to rebrand it. I just wanted to point out that Firefox itself is free and the problem a bit more complicated. Cheers, Bastian -- Bastian Venthur http://venthur.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian firefox
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 09:09:41PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote: Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since There is a difference of protecting a brand and maximizing brand value ... there latest move is about the latter. - Alexander -- GPG messages preferred.| .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Alexander Sack | : :' : The universal [EMAIL PROTECTED]| `. `' Operating System http://www.asoftsite.org/ | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DPL caretaking
On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 04:13:58PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: So 5 or Q or whatever it is people can block the DPL from doing anything for 1 or 2 months just by proposing a recall? Isn't that broken? Nah, I'm just treating it as a semi-vacation. I figure that anything important enough for that to be a worry can and will be done by other people anyway so delegations should be more than sufficient. Cheers, aj signature.asc Description: Digital signature