Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc experiment
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:35:31PM -0300, calvesmit wrote: Marc Haber, there's no need for special privileges in Debian. Nobody is or does jobs better than others. I was talking about technical privileges, which are of course needed. Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things.Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 621 72739835 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Position Statement to the Dunc-Tanc experiment
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:40:04AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 09:35:31PM -0300, calvesmit wrote: Marc Haber, there's no need for special privileges in Debian. Nobody is or does jobs better than others. I was talking about technical privileges, which are of course needed. BTW, the long standing half-jokes about the cabal, as well as positions of various folks with important positions in debian right now, clearly demostrate that your assertions about nobody doing a better job than others and the idea of all developpers being equal, is clearly not shared by a part of DDs, and maybe this is the cause of all problems debian is passing through. There are no some sort of self-selected hierarchy, and some of those who managed to draw themselves up on the top rows of it, clearly let it go to their heads, and look down on others, who have less time to give to debian, or are less power-hungry, or whatever. Friendly, Sven Luther -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please change the Maintainer: header when forking Debian
Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Banck, 2006-11-03 02:27:40 +0100 : Ubuntu is renaming the Maintainer: header to Original-Maintainer: and is using their respective development mailing list as Maintainer: for newly compiled packages for quite a while now. For values of quite a while less than two weeks, I suppose The time is way longer than two weeks. However, this affects only packages, which have been (re-)uploaded after the change, since only the binary packages are munged, not the source packages. Most probably your package wasn't touch since the change on the launchpad buildds. If you insist on having your package rebuilt, feel free to contact me privately. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 pgpbIeiyWHtl7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Please change the Maintainer: header when forking Debian
On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 10:07:11AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: Michael Banck, 2006-11-03 02:27:40 +0100 : Ubuntu is renaming the Maintainer: header to Original-Maintainer: and is using their respective development mailing list as Maintainer: for newly compiled packages for quite a while now. For values of quite a while less than two weeks, I suppose, since my latest experience of Hey, why don't you fix your bugs in Ubuntu? ended about two weeks ago with a rebuild of my package (kinoplus, in that case) which *still* lists me as the maintainer. Insofar as I can navigate the Launchpad thingy, I see no mention of Debian-Maintainer or Original-Maintainer. If you grab the .deb referenced from http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/kinoplus and look at the control inside, you will find: Package: kinoplus Version: 0.3.5-3build1 [...] Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Original-Maintainer: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe they still retain your name somewhere on launchpad.net though, not sure. Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please change the Maintainer: header when forking Debian
Reinhard Tartler, 2006-11-03 11:43:09 +0100 : If you insist on having your package rebuilt, feel free to contact me privately. No, thank you. As I mentioned, the problem has already been fixed by a package rebuild. I would have insisted if it were still broken *and* in my name, but I don't think I have anything to grumble about if it's non-broken (as opposed to grumbling about people googling for my name and thinking what a lousy freelance I must be if my Ubuntu packages are buggy despite my having nothing to do with that). Roland. -- Roland Mas When I eat a biscuit, it stays eaten! -- Arthur Dent, in So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish (Douglas Adams) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please change the Maintainer: header when forking Debian
Michael Banck, 2006-11-03 12:08:46 +0100 : If you grab the .deb referenced from http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/graphics/kinoplus and look at the control inside, you will find: Package: kinoplus Version: 0.3.5-3build1 [...] Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com Original-Maintainer: Roland Mas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ah, so it's in the .deb, okay. It's not in the .dsc, though. And I don't think Ubuntu users are expected to extract the control files from debs, or even to use aptitude and see package properties. All the support I've found mentions Launchpad. Maybe they still retain your name somewhere on launchpad.net though, not sure. Yes. Roland. -- Roland Mas That's one of the good fings about not existin'; they leave you alone most of the time. -- in My Hero (Tom Holt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Call for Talks for the Debian Devroom at FOSDEM 2007
Hi, Turns out the Ubuntu people had actually only asked for a booth, not for a devroom, which is not what the FOSDEM organizers understood. That probably means we will get a full weekend after all, unless the FOSDEM organizers come up with another group they want to team us up with (I don't expect this to happen). I should note that I haven't had official confirmation that we'll get a devroom at all either, but let's say that at this point I'd be pretty surprised if they suddenly announced not to have space for us. So, here's my official request for talks. This is not a call for papers (I hate reading papers ;), it's a call for talks. The rules will be pretty similar to last year's rules: you submit a title and your name as you wish it to appear on the schedule, one or two paragraphs describing your talk and your relation to the subject (enough for me or someone else to give a short introduction), and the time it will take you to hold it (not more than one hour, please). Talks that fit the requirements (must be about Debian, must target an audience familiar with the technology and/or community aspects of Debian) will be accepted on a first come, first serve basis. Talk proposals should be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and should take care to mention the word FOSDEM in the subject, so that my mail filters know what it's about. Other than the FCFS rule, there is no deadline. -- Lo-lan-do Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 2004-09-22 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: hi..i need ur help
Side note: next time, please choose your subject line and the mailinglist to which you're sending your email more carefully. I *almost* filed this message as spam. I'd say questions such as this one would belong on the debian-user mailinglist, not debian-project. Please send any replies there. On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 12:23:20AM +0800, meisam sarabadani wrote: dear sir my name is Meisam, Im majoring at Information System Engineering (IT), in MMU university in malaysia, its been a long time ive been using Ubuntu since last year...im ganna change it to debian and i know ubuntu is debian base, and they are so similar to each other, i was wondering if u could evaluate debian and compare it with ubuntu and also tell me is it a good idea to swith to debian from ubuntu? The most important difference between Ubuntu and Debian lies in the fact that Ubuntu has time-based releases, whereas Debian chooses to release when it's ready; even now when we have been trying to be more predictable in our release cycle, there is still the promise that we'll only release in December if we are indeed 'ready'. Debian also releases far less often than Ubuntu. 'Ready' mostly means that we're free of bugs for as much as is possible. It is an unfortunate fact that as a direct consequence of their release process, an average Ubuntu release has a bit more bugs than does Debian. On the other hand, Debian needs more time to do a release, and our default installations tend have less cutting-edge features than is usually the case for Ubuntu. If you want to have the latest and greatest of everything, then Debian may not be what you want; but if you were happy with the features in your Dapper installation, then you should be able to reproduce this in the upcoming etch release. -- Lo-lan-do Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel, Freenode, 2004-09-22 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
