Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Dec 29, 2006 at 02:24:27PM -0500, Clint Adams wrote:
  I think you're confusing the buildd admin with the porters.  I expect
 
 Maybe that's because the buildd admins used to be the porters, and then,
 for some reason I do not understand, this mysteriously stopped being
 true.

Usually, the porters who initially set up the port did buildd admin
stuff too, but then got tired of it and gave it up to the central
buildd admin team. Since maintaining a buildd host is pretty boring and
numb work, I can see why that is; but when this happens, the people
actually doing the most work for the port are no longer porters.

The only exception to this rule is m68k, where porters are buildd admins
and buildd admins are porters. This has its upsides (when there's an
issue with the port, people who actually care about the port are told
immediately, and are in the ability to do something about it; having a
team to maintain a buildd host instead of just one person increases
response time to package maintainers), but also its downsides (having a
single buildd admin for more than one port will help him to more easily
distinguish between an obscure package bug that occurs on more than one
architecture and an obscure compiler bug that is architecture-specific
and will need fixing; having one buildd maintainer per arch as opposed
to a team will allow one to faster see recurring obscure problems that
need fixing). Which of the two approaches is best is not an easy
question to answer; all I can say is that both approaches seem to work
in different situations.

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Re: Explications needed...

2006-12-30 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
 having one buildd maintainer per arch as opposed
 to a team will allow one to faster see recurring obscure problems that
 need fixing). 

That's the theory. The reality shows the exact contrary, at least for arm:
- The chroot of netwinder is broken for weeks.
- tofee is loosing packages for weeks.
- Some build daemons do not have enough resources to build big packages.
Nobody adds those packages to weak_no_auto_build or weak_no_auto_build
on those build daemons.

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Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates

2006-12-30 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 30 December 2006 14:34, Ryan Murray wrote:
 The LDAP schema has been updated to include several new fields:
 * Mail disable message
 * Mail greylisting
 * Mail sender verification callouts
 * Mail whitelist
 * Mail RBL list
 * Mail RHSBL list

Now THAT is a nice christmas present!  Thanks a LOT to all who were 
involved.

cheers
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Re: db.debian.org (and related infrastructure) updates

2006-12-30 Thread Adrian von Bidder
Yo again!

Web frontend is not, contrary to the announcement, updated yet for 
whitelist, rbl, rhbl :-(  And the mail frontend doesn't like my emails 
(probably either it doesn't like subkey signatures or it doesn't like 
PGP/MIME).  I could add the fields with ldapmodify though, so I assume they 
do work.  Again, thanks.

On Saturday 30 December 2006 14:34, Ryan Murray wrote:
 * Mail RHSBL list

Is this tested against the client hostname or against the envelope sender or 
both?  (postfix has reject_rhsbl_sender and reject_rhsbl_client, I don't 
know exim at all.)

cheers
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