Re: lenny release at epoche 1234567890 ?
Hi, On Tuesday 10 February 2009 20:04, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: > In [2]:datetime.datetime.utcfromtimestamp(1234567890) > Out[2]:datetime.datetime(2009, 2, 13, 23, 31, 30) > > Seems about half an hour before the 14th. oh, indead. I accidentally used local time. That's a pity! Thanks, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
Luk Claes schrieb: >> Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 Lenny to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian >> Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. > There seems to be a part of the sentence missing... Thanks, fixed. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: === Dedication Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 Lenny to Thiemo Seufer, a Debian Developer who died on December 26th, 2008 in a tragic car accident. There seems to be a part of the sentence missing... Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
[ dropping some lists from CC since the involved people are either subscribed somewhere else or BCCed ] Alexander Reichle-Schmehl schrieb: > The most current version may be found in a private subversion repository > (to avoid conflicts when using the wiki). You can get the most recent > version from > http://svn.schmehl.info/svn/debian-publicity/20090214-lenny-release/lenny-announcement.en.wml > ; translators might later be interested in > http://svn.schmehl.info/websvn/listing.php?repname=debian-publicity&path=%2F20090214-lenny-release%2F&rev=0&sc=0 > to track changes in the document. Okay, I think I merged all the content related suggested by now as well as most spelling / grammatical improvements. The current version is available on the named location. I think content wise we are done; it's quite long for an announcement, but I think it's still okay. So please give it an other content check, which I will add tomorrow. Some interesting stuff for translators will follow in a separate mail. Best regards, Alexander Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 released 2009-02-14 #use wml::debian::news The Debian Project is pleased to announce the official release of Debian GNU/Linux version 5.0,codenamed lenny after 22 months of constant development. Debian GNU/Linux is a free operating system which supports a total of twelve processor architectures and includes the KDE, GNOME, Xfce and LXDE desktop environments. It also features compatibility with the FHS v2.3 and software developed for version 3.2 of the LSB. Debian GNU/Linux runs on computers ranging from palmtops and handheld systems to supercomputers, and on nearly everything in between. A total of twelve architectures are supported including: Sun SPARC (sparc), HP Alpha (alpha), Motorola/IBM PowerPC (powerpc), Intel IA-32 (i386) and IA-64 (ia64), HP PA-RISC (hppa), MIPS (mips, mipsel), ARM (arm, armel), IBM S/390 (s390) and AMD64 and Intel EM64T (amd64). Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 (Lenny) will include the new ARM EABI port, Armel. This new port provides a more efficient use of both modern and future ARM processors. As a result the old ARM port (arm) has now been deprecated. This includes support for Marvell's Orion platform or devices based on the Orion platform, like QNAP Turbo Station, HP mv2120, and Buffalo Kurobox Pro as well as Netbooks, such as the EEE PC by Asus. Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 Lenny also contains the build tools for Emdebian which allow Debian source packages to be cross-built and shrunk to suit embedded ARM systems. With the integration of X.org 7.3 the X server autoconfigures itself with most hardware. Newly introduced packages allow the full support of NTFS filesystems or the usage of most multimedia keys out of the box. Support for Adobe® Flash® format files are available via the swfdec or Gnash plugin. Overall improvements for notebooks have been introduced, like out of the box support of CPU frequency scaling. The inclusion of OpenJDK, a free version of Sun's Java technology, into Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 made it possible to ship Java based applications in Debian's "main" repository. Further improvement regarding the security of the system include the installation of available security updates before the first reboot by the installation system, the reduction of setuid root binaries and open ports in the standard installation as well as building several security-critical packages with GCC Hardening features. Various applications have specific improvements, too. PHP for example is now built with the Suhosin hardening patch. For non native English speaking user the package management now supports translated package descriptions which will automatically show the description of a package in the native language of the user if available. An other interesting feature introduced in the package management system is the use of differential updates for package index files. Debian GNU/Linux can be installed from various installation media such as DVDs, CDs, USB sticks and floppies, or from the network. GNOME is the default desktop environment and is contained on the first CD. The K Desktop Environment (KDE), the Xfce or the LXDE desktop can be installed through two new alternative CD images. Again available with Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 are multi-arch CDs and DVDs supporting installation of multiple architectures from a single disc as well as Blu-ray Discs allowing the archive for an entire architecture to be shipped on a single installation medium. In addition to the regular installation media, Debian GNU/Linux can now also be directly used without prior installation. These special images are also known as live images and are available for CDs, USB sticks and different forms of network setups. Initially, these are provided for the amd64 and i386 architectures only. The installation process for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 has been improved in many ways: support for installation from more than 1 CD or DVD has been restored, firmware required by some
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
On 2009-02-10 20:54, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > What about: > > ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages > (build from over 12,000 source packages). Perfect! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 08:54:02PM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Hi! > > W. Martin Borgert schrieb: > > > It's difficult to change all occurrences at the same time. Why > > not start with the release announcement and explicitly say 1x000 > > *source* packages? Let's change it in other documents/pages when > > we're at them. Counting binary packages feels a little bit like > > lying... > > What about: > > ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages > (build from over 12,000 source packages). > > For the end user the number of the binary packages is more interesting > than the source packages. With that we have both: The interesting > number and the true number. I think it's the other way around. Users don't really care, for example, that we build 10 binary packages out of the iceweasel source, or that we build a couple dozen binary packages out of glibc. We include iceweasel 3.0, and we include glibc 2.7. That's what's meaningful to the users. noah signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
W. Martin Borgert (10/02/2009): > On 2009-02-10 20:54, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > > What about: > > > > ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages > > (build from over 12,000 source packages). built? Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
Hi! W. Martin Borgert schrieb: > It's difficult to change all occurrences at the same time. Why > not start with the release announcement and explicitly say 1x000 > *source* packages? Let's change it in other documents/pages when > we're at them. Counting binary packages feels a little bit like > lying... What about: ... and more than 23,000 other packages ready to use software packages (build from over 12,000 source packages). For the end user the number of the binary packages is more interesting than the source packages. With that we have both: The interesting number and the true number. Best regards, Alexander signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
On 2009-02-10 18:50, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: > Yes the 23'000 are the binary packages for i386. Oh, I better correct that > to 22'000 to reflect other archs, too. > > I took the number of binary packages, because we usually take the number of > binary packages. It was in the last announcements and it's even on our > front page. While I think that source packages would be fairer, we should > either leave it or change it on all places. It's difficult to change all occurrences at the same time. Why not start with the release announcement and explicitly say 1x000 *source* packages? Let's change it in other documents/pages when we're at them. Counting binary packages feels a little bit like lying... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: lenny release at epoche 1234567890 ?
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:04:21PM +0100, Gebhardt Thomas wrote: > just noticed that epoche 1234567890 is at 2009-02-14. That would be > a release date that is easy to remember. f...@laurie:~$ ipython In [1]:import datetime In [2]:datetime.datetime.utcfromtimestamp(1234567890) Out[2]:datetime.datetime(2009, 2, 13, 23, 31, 30) Seems about half an hour before the 14th. Regards Floris -- Debian GNU/Linux -- The Power of Freedom www.debian.org | www.gnu.org | www.kernel.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
Hi Gunnar! Gunnar Wolf schrieb: >> > > Umh... This paragraph seems to clump together very disparate > concepts. Yes, they are installer-related - Maybe it should be > rephrased +- this way: [..] > Now, Etch already included the out-of-the-box encryption support - I > wrote an article on February 2007 specifically talking about this > feature. Precisely. The second and the third paragraph are taken unchanged from the etch announcement. I'm not yet sure what to mention there, so I left the old paragraphs as a reminder to add something there and commented them out so they wouldn't appear should I forget them ;) Thanks for your feedback anyway; mentioning the overdone installer and improved g-i sounds sane. Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
Hi! Adeodato Simó schrieb: > Hey, Alexander, thanks for your work here! Some minor comments follow: Thanks for the feedback; I applied your changes / added FIXME so I won't forget them. >> Hypervisor 3.2.1, OpenJDK 6b11 and more than 23,000 other ready to use >> software packages. > > I don't know about the 23,000 figure. It is binary package based, and > I'm not sure if that's really fair, because splitting an upstream into > different .debs is after all an artifact of the distribution. (FWIW > there are around 12,500 source packages in Lenny.) > > In any case, I'm happy to leave this issue to your discretion. Yes the 23'000 are the binary packages for i386. Oh, I better correct that to 22'000 to reflect other archs, too. I took the number of binary packages, because we usually take the number of binary packages. It was in the last announcements and it's even on our front page. While I think that source packages would be fairer, we should either leave it or change it on all places. >> Upgrades to Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 from the previous release, Debian >> GNU/Linux 4.0 codenamed etch, are automatically handled by the >> aptitude package management tool for most configurations, and to a >> certain degree also by the apt-get package management tool. > This should be consistent with the Release Notes. I haven't been > tracking the relevant section there very closely, but I thought apt-get > was preferred now over aptitude. Could you investigate, and swap the > order if that's the case? It is consistent with the Release notes (at least the versions from weekend and today) and the coordinator of the release notes didn't complain, yet ;) >> About Debian > Was there going to be a brief mention of the dedication to Thiemo in the > announcement? (I think I saw the idea thrown somewhere, I'm just not > sure if something came out of it.) Shame on me for forgeting that; added a "FIXME", if someone comes up with an actual text proposal I would be glad. I always felt insecure when writing these texts in a foreign language the last times :( Best regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: lenny release at epoche 1234567890 ?
Gebhardt Thomas (10/02/2009): > just noticed that epoche 1234567890 is at 2009-02-14. That would be a > release date that is easy to remember. <49862854.1070...@googlemail.com> Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
lenny release at epoche 1234567890 ?
Hi, just noticed that epoche 1234567890 is at 2009-02-14. That would be a release date that is easy to remember. Cheers, Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Draft for lenny release announcement
* Gunnar Wolf: > Now, Etch already included the out-of-the-box encryption support - I > wrote an article on February 2007 specifically talking about this > feature. I agree with announcing the graphical interface here, as it > was hidden by default, but AFAIK the crypto part was already there (of > course, exciting new developments in it might exist and warrant this) It wasn't in the installer in March 2006, but beyond that, my memory is foggy. If you decide to mention this, please call it "full disk encryption" (the boot partition doesn't count as far as the industry is concerned). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
