DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-02-27 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
 | Period | Start| End|
 |+--+|
 | Nomination | Sunday, March  1st, 2009 | Saterday, March  7th, 2009 |
 | Campaign   | Sunday, March  8th, 2009 | Saterday, March 28th, 2009 |
 | Vote   | Sunday, March 29th, 2009 | Saterday, April 11th, 2009 |
 
 I suggest that potential DPL candidates start getting their platform
 ready. I would like to receive them before the campaign period
 start.

As I've apparently volunteered to moderate the debate again,[0] it
falls to me to remind prospective candidates to calculate their
schedule for the week of the 21st-28th, and soon after they self
nominate forward the times during that week which they can absolutely
not debate as well as times that they'd rather not debate to me. [This
will help me to avoid having to schedule the debate smack in the
middle of some erstwhile candidate's coffin time.[0.577]]

Those who have suggestions for alterations to the format can also make
those known in a reply to this message (refer to last year's debate
format[1] if you've forgotten what we did last year, suffer from
amnesia or are incapable of forming long term memories or faking them
by the creative use of google and blogs).

People who'd like to help run the debate and/or collect questions can
also volunteer with a message to -vote.


Don Armstrong

0: I know I should heed my major professor's most important lesson
learned from his military service: never be first, never be last,
never volunteer... but I always seem to fall asleep before the
conclusion is reached.

0.577: Deity forbid that the day star attack you.[1.618]

1: 
http://svn.donarmstrong.com/don/trunk/projects/debian/dpl_debates/debate_rules_public.txt

1.618: Yes, for some reason I've adopted irrational footnote
numbering. Don't ask why.[2.718]

2.718: Ok... it has something to do with NIH R01 grant deadlines and
collaborators who are incapable of using LaTeX+BibTeX, and want to
make me (more) insane instead. [3.14]

3.14: Imagine a pithy footnote here. I've given up and gone to the
pub.
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Release files

2009-02-27 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi

small change done to our Release[1] files today: From now on (next dinstall
at 01:52 UTC) they will also list the Contents files for the various
architectures.

[1] Those: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release

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Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-02-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 02:10:38AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
 On Sat, 21 Feb 2009, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
  | Period | Start| End|
  |+--+|
  | Nomination | Sunday, March  1st, 2009 | Saterday, March  7th, 2009 |
  | Campaign   | Sunday, March  8th, 2009 | Saterday, March 28th, 2009 |
  | Vote   | Sunday, March 29th, 2009 | Saterday, April 11th, 2009 |

  I suggest that potential DPL candidates start getting their platform
  ready. I would like to receive them before the campaign period
  start.

 As I've apparently volunteered to moderate the debate again,[0] it
 falls to me to remind prospective candidates to calculate their
 schedule for the week of the 21st-28th, and soon after they self
 nominate forward the times during that week which they can absolutely
 not debate as well as times that they'd rather not debate to me. [This
 will help me to avoid having to schedule the debate smack in the
 middle of some erstwhile candidate's coffin time.[0.577]]

 Those who have suggestions for alterations to the format can also make
 those known in a reply to this message (refer to last year's debate
 format[1] if you've forgotten what we did last year, suffer from
 amnesia or are incapable of forming long term memories or faking them
 by the creative use of google and blogs).

 People who'd like to help run the debate and/or collect questions can
 also volunteer with a message to -vote.

I'd like to raise the question of whether these IRC debates are really
something we should have.  I know Don and the panelists put a lot of time
and effort into making the debates happen, which is part of why I ask the
question:  is it really worth all this effort?  What do we get out of a
three-hour real-time IRC debate that we don't already get from the
candidates' platforms and three weeks of discussion on debian-vote?

All I see that we get is a measure of how comfortable the candidate is with
(English-language) IRC as a medium, which is just not that interesting to me
as a factor in deciding who I'm going to vote for as DPL.  Is it to other
people, or are others getting something else out of this that I'm
overlooking?

For the last two election cycles, I've ignored the IRC debate completely,
and I don't feel that I missed anything.  Am I mistaken?

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