Re: DPL Debates [Re: Debian Project Leader Election 2009]

2009-03-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 09 Mar 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
  If someone can't set up a poll, I'll send another message asking for
  DDs to privately mail me (or maybe me-too to -vote) if they find the
  debates useful.
  http://doodle.com/nmpesn9t5fwv6ewe
 
 Having this run for 7 days now, we had 72 participants.
 
 The question asked was
 Are the Debian DPL IRC Debates useful and should we keep them?
 and people could chose
 Yes, No, I don't care, never looked at one.
 
 and we have
 
 Yes 34
 No  32
 Don't care  12

Based on these results, my own personal thoughts, and some brief
discussion with the candidates, I'm leaning heavily towards not
expending the effort on a debate this time around.

I think much more could be gained from good discussions about the
platforms here in -vote, and followups with the candidates on IRC
(Sledge [Steve] and zack [Stefano] are highly active on IRC) than the
debate itself.

Also, since Stefano and Steve are in similar timezones, odds are good
that you all can get them to engage each other on #debian-devel on an
ad-hoc basis about the specific questions that bother you
specifically, without having to wait for the rigamarole of an IRC
debate.


Don Armstrong

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Debian packages

2009-03-10 Thread Gabriel McCall
Dear Debian Package Maintainers,

Is there a definitive way to download packages for a machine that, due to it's 
remote location, does not have an internet connection?  What I'm looking for is 
a complete file that would contain all the packages that a specific application 
is dependant upon whether or not a given operating system already included said 
packages in it's makeup.  

If something like that is not available, would there be a way to create files 
full of packages that would cover a large range of basic packages in an index 
such as a pool?  This would allow users to download and burn a CD full of the 
latest packages for specific uses such as Multimedia, games, development, or 
perhaps entire desktops that could be added to existing operating systems.  

For example,  I cannot install a second desktop environment such as Xfce or Kde 
on a machine that has Gnome installed without using a package manager and an 
internet connection.  However, if I were able to download a set of package 
files which came with thier dependencies neatly bundled in an index that could 
be read by something like synaptic; I could then install the alternate desktop 
environment without the need for an internet connection.  

Simpler yet would be a multimedia bundle, or perhaps a networking bundle.  If I 
simply wanted a media player installed on my system and could download a 
package bundle which contained everything needed to install that specific media 
player it would be much easier than trying to download each individual package 
and install them all as individual binary packages.

Please help me understand why this is not something that is easliy found.

Thank you for your time

Gabriel  (hellion_darkl...@inbox.com)

 


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Re: Debian packages

2009-03-10 Thread Julien BLACHE
Gabriel McCall hellion_darkl...@inbox.com wrote:

Hi,

 Is there a definitive way to download packages for a machine that, due
 to it's remote location, does not have an internet connection?  What
 I'm looking for is a complete file that would contain all the packages
 that a specific application is dependant upon whether or not a given
 operating system already included said packages in it's makeup.

apt-zip might be what you're looking for.

JB.

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