Re: state of the DSA nation
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote: > we ask ... Paul Wise if they still want to do their ... merge.d.o > services (see http://dsa.debian.org/hardware-wishlist/). Yes, I plan to figure out some details between now and DebConf and do some work on it during DebCamp. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: state of the DSA nation
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Peter Palfrader wrote: > It also still has women.debian.org. It might make sense to move that to > widor, which is where wiki moved to. Need to find out who is > responsible for women.d.o. That would be helix/Erinn Clark IIRC. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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Re: state of the DSA nation
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Peter Palfrader wrote: > = osuosl = > > rietz' storage subsystem is really weird. It seems to hang for seconds > to minutes at times. Maybe rietz is really really overloaded or the > hardware is not well. > > rietz currently is bugs-master and syncproxy.na. > > I suggest we move bugs-master to a kvm domain on dijkstra (don said > that'd be fine). > > Once that happened we can re-setup it with amd64 userland, and then > re-setup syncproxy.na. Ganneff said that'd be ok with him, tho we might > miss a mirrorpulse or two in the process. It also still has women.debian.org. It might make sense to move that to widor, which is where wiki moved to. Need to find out who is responsible for women.d.o. -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: state of the DSA nation
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 28 March 2009, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > [note to -project readers: this mail was written with -admin as an > > intended audience in mind and not you, but I figured I'd CC you > > anyways. Please excuse the style and terseness of some items.] > > Thanks! It's nice to have some sort of idea what's going on. > > Question: what about gluck? IIRC there's still some things (lintian.d.o > for example) living on that. Yup. it is also www (when www isn't klecker), and cvs (webwml probably is the only thing left), and MX for admin (I think that only does a couple of expanders for commits tho) and has some admin related docs (those which aren't in our dsa-passwords git or on the dsa.debian.org wiki), and according to dns also ddtp (not sure what its status is), and planet, and popcon, and search. I currently don't see any pressing needs to change any of that (tho we will probably want to move the admin related docs away from it slowly - no need to have stuff spread out over 3 different places). weasel -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: state of the DSA nation
On Saturday 28 March 2009, Peter Palfrader wrote: > [note to -project readers: this mail was written with -admin as an > intended audience in mind and not you, but I figured I'd CC you > anyways. Please excuse the style and terseness of some items.] Thanks! It's nice to have some sort of idea what's going on. Question: what about gluck? IIRC there's still some things (lintian.d.o for example) living on that. Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wish list regarding install
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 07:29:02AM -0400, Michael Powell wrote: > I tried executing grub, grub-install, etc., and got "command not found" > errors. Must be hid pretty good! ;-) Thanks! Use the installer's built-in rescue mode as Frans said, and then go through the menu system rather than switching to a shell; once you've selected a filesystem to operate on, it has a menu item to reinstall grub. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@debian.org] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use (was Re: Point to semi-official backported packages?)
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Paul Wise wrote: > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains > > Nico Golde used to autogenerate a list of debian.net domains, but it > was replaced with the wiki page for "privacy reasons". The list of .net entries is not publicly available - the ldap only gives it out to debian.org hosts, and the zone should not be AXFR-able either. So some folks might have expected their entries to be private. At any rate, dumping privileged ldap information and making it publicly available is not acceptable. If we decide this information should be public, then that's a different thing. But it should then be reflected in the slapd ACLs, and people should be informed about the change. -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
state of the DSA nation
[note to -project readers: this mail was written with -admin as an intended audience in mind and not you, but I figured I'd CC you anyways. Please excuse the style and terseness of some items.] Hi, just a short[post scriptum, a few hours later: hah.] overview of our state/todo list/plans as I see it. Feel free to comment/argue/etc. = vancouver = We got a nice msa2ki storage from HP at UBC/ECE. Currently it's resyncing/growing its raid because I want to see how it handles stuff. Once this is done we can start moving stuff onto kvm domains on dijkstra - the blade we also got. Things I want to put there as a start: - an i386 or amd64 buildd or both, depending on what wbadm needs. - move buildd/wannabuild from raff to a domain so we rely less on FtC and old servers that are long out of warranty. Luca also managed to get a system with lots of storage (on the order of 10 to 20t) from one of the Professors at UBC. Unfortunately the system itself is too old to have modern CPUs that do virtualisation stuff, and it "only" has 6 or so gigs of ram. We can use this for either backups (if we want to do more than what bartok currently has), or - I'd prefer that - we ask Noel Koethe and Paul Wise if they still want to do their sources.d.o and merge.d.o services (see http://dsa.debian.org/hardware-wishlist/). The system can also be home for data.d.o and snapshot.d.o if the other things don't work out. = darmstadt = Unger, the dl360 in darmstadt, germany, has two raid controllers. Currently the disks are on the p400 controller which does not have a battery backed cache. We should move the disks to the p800 (see RT#1129). Once that is done we should move db.debian.org (i.e. our ldap) onto a kvm domain on unger. unger already has one trusted system, handel, our puppet master. liszt is still on etch. The upgrade ticket is owned by zobel who is also listmaster, so that makes sense. = helsinki = On piatti the piuparts team got piuparts running again. That means that piatti now is quite loaded. Piatti hosts udd, and it has bugs and packages mirrors tho I removed them both from dns because piatti's load spiked into the hundreds. Moving non-piuparts stuff of piatti and thereby dedicating piatti solely to piuparts again is also preferable because piuparts does lots of stuff as root, and so do its admins. = ftc = nagios from samosa should probably move to spohr, which appears to be our "public dsa services that are not all that security critical"-box these days. That'll leave samosa free. Once buildd is in vancouver, raff only has keyring left, but that should be easy to move; and raff still has morgue files from ftp-master, they can be moved elsewhere also. So we could move udd from piatti to its own dedicated host (either raff or samosa) - see #1241. DDE can move onto the same host, away from merkel, if desired by dde-adm. = csail/mit = Noahm at CSAIL/MIT still has 3 of the old HP servers we got two months ago in his to-setup queue (they are from the same batch as the dl360 that is schein, now hosted at ISC and being security.us). IIRC we will have two dl360 (senfl and rore) and one dl380 (carver). Disk-wise I don't know/remember how they will be. Probably at least 74g (2x74g raid1) in the dl360s, and 180g (6x36g raid5) in the dl380. Once they are online we should think of moving individual services around. = munich = verdi is a really really old box: dual pentium III 700mhz, 512mb of ram, raid5 of 4 18g disks one of which failed half a year ago and hasn't been replaced yet. verdi hosts volatile-master. volatile should maybe be integrated into the ftp archive proper - I sent an email regarding that a few months back to the volatile folks. If that does not happen we need to move it to a new host, then we can decommission verdi. = karlsruhe = wieck and schumann - dell servers from november or so - are sponsored by 1&1. wieck is acting as a security mirror for a while now. schumann has been made into a kvm host and is currently hosting one domain: chopin. chopin will become new security-master (currently klecker) once the ftp folks are done setting stuff up. we can setup another kvm domain on it (we have 2 more ip addresses) for other security stuff. fw mentioned a couple of months back that he wants a place for security-tracker.d.n. This could be it. white (steffen joeris) also wants a home for testing-security.d.n. They can probably live on the same kvm domain. = minnesota = saens isn't doing anything since we moved ftp.d.o to kassia. We were talking about making it a mail relay at one point, but it doesn't look like there'll be any progress there any time soon, nor is it still certain we want/need that. maybe make seans part of security.us? = nl = Once security-master is on chopin, the only thing left on klecker will be www-master (and www). We do not have ilo access to klecker, tho if we had a piece of useful (rackable) hardwa
Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use (was Re: Point to semi-official backported packages?)
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > (A reasonable exception could be www.debian.net containing a list of > .debian.net names.) There is a wiki page for that: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains Nico Golde used to autogenerate a list of debian.net domains, but it was replaced with the wiki page for "privacy reasons". -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use (was Re: Point to semi-official backported packages?)
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:00:46AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> Wouldn’t it be just better to point those domains to the respective
> project-wide efforts? I’d appreciate opinions on the matter.
AOL.
Looks like the rule is quite simple too: for any $X.debian.org,
$X.debian.net should point to $X.debian.org. (A reasonable exception
could be www.debian.net containing a list of .debian.net names.)
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Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use (was Re: Point to semi-official backported packages?)
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:00:46AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Paul Wise [Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:35:44 +0900]: > > > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > > (And yes, I know about backports.d.n; maybe I'll get 'round to submitting > > > or maintaining stuff there at some point, but for the present it is > > > a bit easier for me to keep it all in a single repo :) > > > I think you mean backports.org, backports.debian.net is not what you > > think it is. Despite its name, backports.d.n is a personal backports > > archive for Daniel Bauman. > > I really don’t get why it’s appropriate for a developer to use such > generic names for their personal stuff. git.debian.net seems to be > Daniel’s too. > > Wouldn’t it be just better to point those domains to the respective > project-wide efforts? I’d appreciate opinions on the matter. I'd go a little further and instate a general rule such as: - All subdomains of debian.org should exist in debian.net and point to the same location. - All domains external to debian.org but providing official support should also be accessible from a subdomain of debian.org. - All external domains providing unofficial support should also be accessible from a subdomain of debian.net. That would also be the occasion to discuss about the status of backports, buildd.net and others. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use (was Re: Point to semi-official backported packages?)
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > I think you mean backports.org, backports.debian.net is not what you > > think it is. Despite its name, backports.d.n is a personal backports > > archive for Daniel Bauman. > > I really don't get why it's appropriate for a developer to use such > generic names for their personal stuff. git.debian.net seems to be > Daniel's too. > > Wouldn't it be just better to point those domains to the respective > project-wide efforts? I'd appreciate opinions on the matter. I couldn't agree more. -- | .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Genericly-named debian.net domains for private use (was Re: Point to semi-official backported packages?)
* Paul Wise [Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:35:44 +0900]: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Peter Pentchev wrote: > > (And yes, I know about backports.d.n; maybe I'll get 'round to submitting > > or maintaining stuff there at some point, but for the present it is > > a bit easier for me to keep it all in a single repo :) > I think you mean backports.org, backports.debian.net is not what you > think it is. Despite its name, backports.d.n is a personal backports > archive for Daniel Bauman. I really don’t get why it’s appropriate for a developer to use such generic names for their personal stuff. git.debian.net seems to be Daniel’s too. Wouldn’t it be just better to point those domains to the respective project-wide efforts? I’d appreciate opinions on the matter. Cheers, -- - Are you sure we're good? - Always. -- Rory and Lorelai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
