Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-30 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:17:15 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

 On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:47:16PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:

[reviews of debian/copyright]

  You know, there is one set of packages that *usually* passes NEW
  pretty fast? Thats because they do something similar to that. They
  (usually, even they have exceptions, but pretty rare) have damn good
  copyright files. (For some reason those packages end in -perl. Must
  be some policy thing i suspect).
 What I don't get from your text is: are you aware of the extra reviews
 on a per-package basis, or you just noticed that tose packages are
 usually OK and then discovered that the reasons are extra reviews?

We don't have some formal procedure for reviewing debian/copyright; I
guess it's just some kind of group culture that we want to produce
sound packages which includes correct copyright/licensing
information. And REJECTs caused by sloppy work are both embarrassing
and time-consuming for all involved parties :)

In practice it helps in my opinion
* to have some nit-pickers in the group who spread this culture;
* to have simple packages (with a 3-line debian/rules we can take
  some more time for getting debian/copyright right :));
* that there are some recurrent pitfalls that appear in several
  packages again;
* for reviews, at least for me, that we mostly use the new copyright
  format (the structure makes it easier for me to spot problems than
  some free-form prose);
* that (at least parts of) the group works together on IRC where it's
  easy to just ask hey, package foo has a weird copyright, could
  someone else please take a look and give their opinion? and that
  we actually do this;
* that our upstream authors are usually very responsive when we ask
  them for clarifications or adding missing pieces, and that also
  lowers the bar for actually asking.  

I'm not sure there's some conclusion that I can offer from my
experience in the pkg-perl group to others; if any, it might be that
a group culture that encourages close cooperation and an endeavour
for diligence pays off.

Cheers,
gregor  
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New Debian Developers

2009-06-30 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
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Hi,

I'm happy to announce that the following applicants have recently completed the
New Maintainer process and are now Debian Developers:

Alexander Gerasiov (gq)
Francisco García Claramonte (francisco)
Jon Dowland (jmtd)
Patryk Cisek (patryk)
Philipp Huebner (debalance)
Raphael Geissert (geissert)


On behalf of the project: congratulations and welcome.

Also I'd like to thank their application managers for going trough the process
with them.

Best regards,

Bernd

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Re: DAM and NEW queues processing

2009-06-30 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:50:17AM +0200]:
  I do know that, as it was part of my NM, but I'm not sure I'd write the
  same thing as an intro sent to debian-project.
 
 Also, after one or two years in NM, you might have some new things to
 say about you, and your interests in Debian might change, so an updated
 introduction would be interesting, indeed.

I just have read my first NM has been approved as DD (yay,
Francisco!). I don't think, as I have already said in this thread, I
processed him particularly fast. Even more, my report to FD (December
8) was lost for a month. Still, it took slightly less than a year for
him to go from being assigned to me (July 6) to being approved (June
30). 

I don't think the situation is as hard as you paint it.

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