Re: On cadence and collaboration

2009-08-13 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
 Of course, many upstreams will not accept this, as it breaks their
 workflow and might just feel outside influence from people they don't
 care too much about (and I'm not meaning the Linux desktops, as they
 obviously care about Linux distributions, but mainly OS-agnostic
 projects). Still, I think it would be worth a try.
   
This is a good point. We do already see lots of upstreams moving to a
cadence, which is improving their release energy and practices. There is
*some* alignment between various upstreams, but at this stage it will
take getting two or more distributions together in order to create a
real center of gravity.

Mark


Re: On cadence and collaboration

2009-08-13 Thread Vipin Mathew
I admit that i m no developer who has a strong word in a debate. i m just an 
average joe end user who just wish that opensource software becomes better. if 
opensource wins, it would be a win for the community. an evidence that even in 
this world filled with walls, men can still cooperate breaking all barriers to 
create something which rivals even the closed n boxed ones.

mozilla has  shown how we can build something which is in every way better than 
the closed ones by effective collaboration. if we all come together we could 
create another great brand called linux. n we can win. a win for all the 
community. just think what we would be able to achieve if all the developers in 
various distros came together. 

i really really wish that all will come together to collaborate setting aside 
all the differences. n i really wish  to see a better world. n thank u mark for 
taking this initiative..



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Re: On cadence and collaboration

2009-08-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Vipin Mathew dijo [Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 08:24:21AM -0700]:
 mozilla has shown how we can build something which is in every way
 better than the closed ones by effective collaboration. if we all
 come together we could create another great brand called linux. n we
 can win. a win for all the community. just think what we would be
 able to achieve if all the developers in various distros came
 together.

[OT] Some people (me not included, I refuse to even try it) will point
out that it has beaten the pants out of MSIE, but propietary browsers
such as Opera or Safari are way ahead. There was a (short) thread
recently on d-devel where even some Debian Developers (of course,
everybody is free to use what they prefer!) say they prefer Opera over
any Mozilla derivative.

But anyway, please don't reply to this, it is not needed. Just raising
the point that Mozilla might not be the best example after all. And
don't get me started on OpenOffice! ;-)

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