Re: Google AdSense for Debian
On Thursday 04 February 2010 01.43:23 Paul Wise wrote: [...] I'd like to suggest this thread be moved to debian-project to get some input from a larger part of Debian. Ok. Here's what this is about: +++ I've been sent a voucher for 125.-- worth of Google Ads. How should I use it? I'll need * a title (2 or 3 words perhaps) * a text (5 to 10 words) * what URL to point to * Keywords when the ad should show. Obviously the entries should be to promote Debian, so the URL is probably a sub-page/domain of debian.org. I'll be the jury (it's my voucher, right?) and will pick the entry/entries I like best from what is posted on this mailing list. I will (try to) read the discussion around the weekend in two weeks (13.2.) and then decide what to do. I'll announce results here, too. +++ cheers -- vbi -- Today is Setting Orange, the 35th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3176 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Google AdSense for Debian
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:39:28AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Thursday 04 February 2010 01.43:23 Paul Wise wrote: [...] I'd like to suggest this thread be moved to debian-project to get some input from a larger part of Debian. Ok. Here's what this is about: +++ I've been sent a voucher for 125.-- worth of Google Ads. How should I use it? I'll need * a title (2 or 3 words perhaps) * a text (5 to 10 words) * what URL to point to * Keywords when the ad should show. Obviously the entries should be to promote Debian, so the URL is probably a sub-page/domain of debian.org. I'll be the jury (it's my voucher, right?) and will pick the entry/entries I like best from what is posted on this mailing list. I will (try to) read the discussion around the weekend in two weeks (13.2.) and then decide what to do. I'll announce results here, too. +++ I have a 75€ voucher for Google Adwords, too. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Google AdSense for Debian
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:39:28AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
On Thursday 04 February 2010 01.43:23 Paul Wise wrote:
[...]
I'd like to suggest this thread be moved to debian-project to get some
input from a larger part of Debian.
I've a voucher too, and I'd be happy to offer it for Debian promotion.
Regarding the -project discussion, it seems to me that we still need the
information that Adrian asked, and the main outcome of the discussion
should be that information, then individual DDs can uniformly use them
(or not: it is their individual decision, at last).
Let me try to provide some of that info.
I'll need
* a title (2 or 3 words perhaps)
The Debian operating system
* a text (5 to 10 words)
I believe -publicity would be the best list to suggest something :-), or
maybe pr...@d.o (added in Cc). Still, if I were gunpointed to suggest
something, I would go for something along the line of:
Debian: building the best free operating system since 1993
Join Debian, the best free operating system
* what URL to point to
These are from the official website:
- http://www.debian.org/intro/help
- http://www.debian.org/devel/join/
However, I happen to remember that there was a similar page on the wiki,
a bit more up to date, but I can't find one, is my memory b0rken?
* Keywords when the ad should show.
debian
linux
free software
open source
ubuntu (?)
No idea how many we can have here ...
Cheers.
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Re: Google AdSense for Debian
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 11:29:47AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: * Keywords when the ad should show. debian linux free software open source ubuntu (?) I'd prefer references to Debian's own products like Debian Edu and thus free software in education or something like this (provided there are keywords left). Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Google AdSense for Debian
On Thursday 04 February 2010 11.29:47 Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 08:39:28AM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Thursday 04 February 2010 01.43:23 Paul Wise wrote: [...] I'd like to suggest this thread be moved to debian-project to get some input from a larger part of Debian. I've a voucher too, and I'd be happy to offer it for Debian promotion. Regarding the -project discussion, it seems to me that we still need the information that Adrian asked, and the main outcome of the discussion should be that information, then individual DDs can uniformly use them (or not: it is their individual decision, at last). Let me try to provide some of that info. I'll need * a title (2 or 3 words perhaps) The Debian operating system * a text (5 to 10 words) I believe -publicity would be the best list to suggest something :-), or maybe pr...@d.o (added in Cc). Still, if I were gunpointed to suggest something, I would go for something along the line of: Debian: building the best free operating system since 1993 Join Debian, the best free operating system * what URL to point to These are from the official website: - http://www.debian.org/intro/help - http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ However, I happen to remember that there was a similar page on the wiki, a bit more up to date, but I can't find one, is my memory b0rken? * Keywords when the ad should show. ... ubuntu (?) I won't do that. Fueling this debate is unnecessary. Now entering Windows is something different. OTOH that'd certainly be lawyer fodder and I'd possibly lose the Google account (not that I do much with it anyway.) I was thinking about trying to address people who are looking into buy a new computer. One of the goals of advertising is to make people aware of a name that didn't know it before, after all. cheers -- vbi -- Ich würde mich freuen, wenn das in die nächste stabile Version kommt. Wofür denkst Du habe ich es programmiert ;-) -- Ralf Becker signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Google AdSense for Debian
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 12:26:30PM +0100, Steffen Möller wrote: ubuntu (?) I'd prefer references to Debian's own products like Debian Edu and thus free software in education or something like this (provided there are keywords left). When I am abstracting a bit from what Andreas just contributed, would you agree that Debian is particularly interesting because of its community spirit? And that we give everything that we do to as many people as possible, including Ubuntu? To as many platforms as is possibly reasonable? I'm not sure about this abstraction. My idea was that there are just a lot of Debian derivatives and I see no reason to advertise one particular of these. I'd rather wanted to advertise a field where Debian in itself is strong in my opinion. I personally am less interested in attracting end users. The suggested links in the initial mail did not stress this end user thesis and I had not primarily end users in mind when suggesting the keyword. We've got a lot of support from Extremadura which has a large scale Debian installation running in schools, we have quite good SkoleLinux coverage in Norway and some interesting movements in Germany and there is something going on in Asia about using Debian in schools which proves that Debian is fit for educational purposes. There is no harm done if we point developers and end users to this fact. (End we should do this more prominently on our web page, see below.) Will they understand our website? That's a different topic. I agree that the website needs enhancement. We should stress that there are many communities specialised to many scientific or application-centric fields that like to work with them, no matter what exact background they have. Well, that's about content of the web site, no keyword. I would place only those keywords where it is easy to prove that we are good in this topic. The fact that we have people who care for sciences (and you know I'm very keen on propagating this) is nothing which can be so easily proven in numbers of installations by a ready product and it is hard to argue in how far we are much better than other dists (even if *I* *think* we are). We should use a different thread (mailing list) how to enhance our web pages according to the things you have in mind. And that any Debian-submitted work is auto-ported to more places with a larger audience than any other platform. So you are suggesting ports / portable to the Google addwords? Sounds reasonable to me. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Google AdSense for Debian
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Adrian von Bidder avbid...@fortytwo.ch wrote: Here is one idea: * a title (2 or 3 words perhaps) Debian Games Team. * a text (5 to 10 words) Come help us package Free Software and Open Source games for Debian (and Ubuntu). Lets have fun making Free Software extra fun! * what URL to point to http://wiki.debian.org/Games/Team * Keywords when the ad should show. debian games, linux games Obviously the entries should be to promote Debian, so the URL is probably a sub-page/domain of debian.org. When promoting Debian, what would be the goal for Debian? I'd echo Steffen's sentiments about attracting users. That said, I tend to think we are drowning in bug reports for popular and well used packages, but niche packages tend to be under-used, under-appreciated and under-scrutinized. Advertising focusing on attracting niche users to install Debian and use, enjoy and scrutinize the relevant niche packages would be useful to us. I've found posts on debaday can be quite useful in boosting popcon values. To me, attracting more developers would be the most useful one goal for any advertising campaign. Advertising on places like LWN Slashdot would probably be more effective here than generic Google advertising. I tend to think using, monitoring and interacting with social media like Facebook, Twitter, Myspace, etc would be a better way to attract new developers than advertising. I'd encourage those who are willing to use these new media to talk about their and others Debian activities, significant Debian events and other FLOSS Debian related stuff there. It would probably be better to do so in the more mainstream sites rather than alternatives like identi.ca. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-project-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
